Re: [Laconica-dev] ReTweet

2009-08-30 Thread Steve Remington
Tweet and retweet were in a boat. Tweet jumped out... who was left?



On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Steve Remington skinnymo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Has anyone ever looked into the retweet feature? Personally I think the
 feature is stupid but others do seem to like it.

 Steve

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Re: [Laconica-dev] ReTweet

2009-08-30 Thread Mr. Meitar Moscovitz

On Aug 30, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Steve Remington wrote:

Has anyone ever looked into the retweet feature? Personally I think  
the feature is stupid but others do seem to like it.


Steve


Steve,

Are you talking about the redent standard?

http://status.net/trac/ticket/939

I have an experimental branch on which I implemented a very basic  
redent button using the generic recycling symbol:


http://gitorious.org/~meitar/laconica/meitar/commits/redent-button

It's a small patch and, as I often find really cool things in others'  
notices, I like being able to pre-fill a new notice of my own with  
the content from another. I haven't had time to Ajax-ify (that's a  
word, right?) the button yet, though. Other than that, what other  
sort of thing do you think would make such a feature more useful?


Cheers,
-Meitar Moscovitz
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Re: [Laconica-dev] ReTweet

2009-08-30 Thread Steve Remington
Yes that's the feature. Where I am we Grunt, not tweet or dent haha

So maybe I could establish a regrunt standard.

A generic recycling symbol would work perfectly and/or rg

Steve

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Mr. Meitar Moscovitz meit...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Aug 30, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Steve Remington wrote:

 Has anyone ever looked into the retweet feature? Personally I think the
 feature is stupid but others do seem to like it.

 Steve


 Steve,

 Are you talking about the redent standard?

 http://status.net/trac/ticket/939

 I have an experimental branch on which I implemented a very basic redent
 button using the generic recycling symbol:

 http://gitorious.org/~meitar/laconica/meitar/commits/redent-buttonhttp://gitorious.org/%7Emeitar/laconica/meitar/commits/redent-button

 It's a small patch and, as I often find really cool things in others'
 notices, I like being able to pre-fill a new notice of my own with the
 content from another. I haven't had time to Ajax-ify (that's a word, right?)
 the button yet, though. Other than that, what other sort of thing do you
 think would make such a feature more useful?

 Cheers,
 -Meitar Moscovitz
 Personal: http://maymay.net
 Professional: http://MeitarMoscovitz.com




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Re: [Laconica-dev] ReTweet

2009-08-30 Thread Fabien Basmaison
Steve Remington a écrit :
 Has anyone ever looked into the retweet feature? Personally I think the
 feature is stupid but others do seem to like it.

Hi!

I don't plan to be offensive or anything, but I'm still wondering why we have 
to find new terms to express old ideas like posting, forwarding or bouncing 
some informations (think about e-mails).

If I think about accessibility, I guess most of the people won't understand the 
tweet/dent/grunt/whatsoever, when they'll understand post/forward/bounce quite 
fast.

My two cents as a question: Does interoperability reside only in the code or 
the language used is to be considered too?

That's all, Folks. :)
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Re: [Laconica-dev] ReTweet

2009-08-30 Thread Steve Remington
Fabien,

No offense taken. I think it is a marketing thing. Same product rewrapped to
appeal to the consumer (user). For instance. My site is targeting hunters in
North America. A lot of them hunt Moose, Elk, Deer, Bear, etc. The name of
my site is called MooseGrunt, because sometimes moose actually grunt. So to
target hunters in general we call it grunting. Most hunters have a complex
about tweeting as it sounds kinda queer. Not to offend...

Hunters want to GRUNT and drink a 12 pack rather than Tweet and flitter
around.

As insane and self gratifying that may be, and even being politically
incorrect, it's the truth and I am online to make money. My business has
been affecting by marketing to my users and listening to what the users
want, no matter how stupid it may sound. But I need to put food on the table
and executing small repackaging techniques can actually go a lng
way.

Steve

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Fabien Basmaison 
fabien.basmai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steve Remington a écrit :
  Has anyone ever looked into the retweet feature? Personally I think the
  feature is stupid but others do seem to like it.

 Hi!

 I don't plan to be offensive or anything, but I'm still wondering why we
 have to find new terms to express old ideas like posting, forwarding or
 bouncing some informations (think about e-mails).

 If I think about accessibility, I guess most of the people won't understand
 the tweet/dent/grunt/whatsoever, when they'll understand post/forward/bounce
 quite fast.

 My two cents as a question: Does interoperability reside only in the code
 or the language used is to be considered too?

 That's all, Folks. :)
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Re: [Laconica-dev] ReTweet

2009-08-30 Thread Fabien Basmaison
Mr. Meitar Moscovitz a écrit :
 I strongly prefer the recycling symbol over the sequence of letters with
 esoteric references. I never liked RT for retweet, and I dislike RD
 for redent. In my branch[0], I use the term repeat, so when you hover
 over the recycling symbol button the tooltip you're presented with is
 Repeat this notice. Despite the branch name, the term redent doesn't
 appear in the code.
 
 I think that's service-neutral and clear enough for most people to
 understand. What do you think?

Well, if you consider accessibility, the recycle icon is really nice, but you 
can't type it easily from any keyboard or phone, etc.
F for forward or B for bounce (depending if you add content or not) is only 
one symbol and just a key press from any device.
It's a lot let sexy, I admit (though I like B quite a lot). :)

If it's service generated (like the button you mentioned), I agree it's nice, 
but it's inconsistent if people don't use the website as their interface (which 
is the goal of such a service).

I don't know if it's the right place to talk about this, let me know if it is 
not.
Thanks!

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Re: [Laconica-dev] ReTweet

2009-08-30 Thread Fabien Basmaison
Mr. Meitar Moscovitz a écrit :
 I strongly prefer the recycling symbol over the sequence of letters with
 esoteric references. I never liked RT for retweet, and I dislike RD
 for redent. In my branch[0], I use the term repeat, so when you hover
 over the recycling symbol button the tooltip you're presented with is
 Repeat this notice. Despite the branch name, the term redent doesn't
 appear in the code.
 
 I think that's service-neutral and clear enough for most people to
 understand. What do you think?

Well, if you consider accessibility, the recycle icon is really nice, but you 
can't type it easily from any keyboard or phone, etc.
F for forward or B for bounce (depending if you add content or not) is only 
one symbol and just a key press from any device.
It's a lot let sexy, I admit (though I like B quite a lot). :)

If it's service generated (like the button you mentioned), I agree it's nice, 
but it's inconsistent if people don't use the website as their interface (which 
is the goal of such a service).

I don't know if it's the right place to talk about this, let me know if it is 
not.
Thanks!

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