RE: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Hi Willem Nice to see your from holland to. Im sure where all intrested in what ever you can produce. You seem to have a impressive ambition that is supporten by your experience. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Valentijn Delphidreams http://www.delphidreams.nl -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: willem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 23 november 2007 0:56 Aan: lazarus@miraclec.com Onderwerp: Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :) Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:52:59PM +0100, willem wrote: I know that the lazarus grammar is based on yacc I did some google search on the fpc I do know that google searches results are not always correct. I a a newby to the lazarus project. but i did study compiler comnstruction 30 years ago. Pascal has been founded by Prof niklaus Wirth as an an educational computer language and he has extended the backus -nauer form to EBNF. Well I am going to extend ENBF with XML. Grammar is very important as a base to study a language. I want to start Andromedia. The first effort will be documenting the delphi antlr grammar. I will use XML for that. because the the delphi grammar can easily be expanded with an XML specification. I did study websites with html and javascript. That horrible and it takes a lot of time to understand that kind of thing well i have 30 years of experience with computing problems my first computer experience was with the intel 4004 but i am a newby on this forum. My intentention is is to start the androida project on sourceforge I will then publish the delphi grammar for antlr. Experienced Lazarus developpers can then suggest improvements on this delphi grammar and so it becomes lazarus grammar. I want to extend the delphi grammar with XML So EBNF becomes XEBNF !!! The FPC is recursive descent and is not based on yacc. Syntax highlighter parsers don't have to be 100% correct. Before you start you might also learn your target better, and at least have an idea how you are going to tackle porting unmanaged constructs to a managed version. Sorry you are wrong. I have already the delphi grammar for antlr There is even one in the Delphi's manual. But even that is not complete. How can you be so sure yours is? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Im not realy a core guys my specialty is to create programs (GUI) or
SOAP services. Im more a user then a core designer so im not realy
familiar with this.
But im sure it will aid somehow to bringing te Lazarus project to a
other level.
Im stil waiting for the day I can have everyting I need to recompile
osFinancials with Lazarus.
I gess I also need the time to reinvest to see if this is posible yet.
You know how it goes when you have users Bugs first :-)
Met vriendelijke groet,
Pieter Valentijn
Delphidreams
http://www.delphidreams.nl
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Van: willem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 23 november 2007 10:07
Aan: lazarus@miraclec.com
Onderwerp: Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Pieter Valentijn wrote:
Hi Willem Nice to see your from holland to.
Im sure where all intrested in what ever you can produce.
You seem to have a impressive ambition that is supporten by your
experience.
Hello Pieter,
Yes i am from holland.
i am experienced but ia newby in the lazarus field.
So i start with the grammar.
simply because i got a lot of teaching about grammar at school. i
downloaded the pascal grammar of the web. and run it strough antlrwork
and checked the pascal grammar.
this was the result.
[08:54:51] Checking Grammar...
[08:54:53] warning(200): java.g:777:5: Decision can match input such as
'0'..'9'{'E', 'e'}{'+', '-'}'0'..'9'{'D', 'F', 'd', 'f'} using
multiple alternatives: 3, 4
As a result, alternative(s) 4 were disabled for that input
so thats interesting !!
i have no idea what it means but i will find.
because i did study study 30 years ago
so i have to refresh my knowledge.
i have attached the pascal grammar in this post.
regards
Met vriendelijke groet,
Pieter Valentijn
Delphidreams
http://www.delphidreams.nl
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: willem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 23 november 2007 0:56
Aan: lazarus@miraclec.com
Onderwerp: Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:52:59PM +0100, willem wrote:
I know that the lazarus grammar is based on yacc
I did some google search on the fpc
I do know that google searches results are not always correct. I a a
newby to the lazarus project. but i did study compiler comnstruction
30 years ago. Pascal has been founded by Prof niklaus Wirth as an an
educational computer language
and he has extended the backus -nauer form to EBNF.
Well I am going to extend ENBF with XML.
Grammar is very important as a base to study a language.
I want to start Andromedia.
The first effort will be documenting the delphi antlr grammar. I
will
use XML for that. because the the delphi grammar can easily be
expanded
with an XML
specification.
I did study websites with html and javascript. That horrible and it
takes a lot of time to understand that kind of thing
well i have 30 years of experience with computing problems
my first computer experience was with the intel 4004 but i am a newby
on
this forum.
My intentention is is to start the androida project on sourceforge I
will then publish the delphi grammar for antlr. Experienced Lazarus
developpers can then suggest improvements on this delphi grammar and
so it becomes lazarus grammar. I want to extend the delphi grammar
with XML So EBNF becomes XEBNF !!!
The FPC is recursive descent and is not based on yacc. Syntax
highlighter parsers don't have to be 100% correct.
Before you start you might also learn your target better, and at
least
have
an idea how you are going to tackle porting unmanaged constructs to
a
managed version.
Sorry you are wrong.
I have already the delphi grammar for antlr
There is even one in the Delphi's manual. But even that is not
complete. How can you be so sure yours is?
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[Lazarus] Error compiling lazarus
Somebody has this error compiling Lazarus? Compiling /usr/lib/lazarus/components/tachart/taseries.pas Compiling /usr/lib/lazarus/components/tachart/tagraph.pas Compiling /usr/lib/lazarus/components/tachart/taengine.pas taengine.pas(43,24) Error: Identifier not found class taengine.pas(45,5) Error: Error in type definition taengine.pas(45,5) Fatal: Syntax error, ; expected but identifier PRIVATE found Fatal: Compilation aborted thanks Antonio _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
On Nov 23, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jury Azovtzev wrote: I tryied with Puppy, but I have memory problems and side effects... Now I'll try with your DVD. I think it was problems with video device detestion. I would appriciat to you for this disk tests. Write here if you'll find any ptoblems and troubles. Under VMWare, there are some troubles :) Screenshots are in the archive file. http://ftn.shikami.org/misc/Lazarus/Lazarus-LiveCD-20071123.zip -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Search engine for Lazarus and Free Pascal concerned stuff
Tom Gregorovic wrote: Hi, it crossed my mind that it would be convenient to have one search service for all the information about Lazarus and Free Pascal, which are in forums, mail list archives, documentation reference, wiki, Mantis, SVN repository, SVN log, blog ... One possibility is Google Custom Search Engine (http://www.google.com/coop/cse/): * it is free for noncommercial usage, but I think it parses not all resources The alternative is to use some web search engine running on own server (e.g. http://www.mnogosearch.org/ ). I recommend xapian; www.xapian.org I've worked on it, I've used it and I've followed it's progress and when I worked at Orange we hired one of the developers to enhance it. It is based on a once-commercial search engine. Sam _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Buffer Overflow
I just rebuilt Lazarus with SVN 12973 on my Linux box with GTK2 and upon restart I got a error dialog that said buffer overflow. Here is the output trace: TLazarusManager.Run starting /home/n7yg/.lazarus/bin/lazarus ... TApplication.IconChanged - TODO: convert this message...no implementation in gtk or win32 [TMainIDE.Destroy] A [TMainIDE.Destroy] B - inherited Destroy... TMainIDE [TMainIDE.Destroy] END [FORMS.PP] ExceptionOccurred Sender=Ecompressionerror Exception=buffer error Stack trace: $081A26DE $0819BC0B $0819B9E4 $08196D9D $081949E1 $081367E1 TFPIMAGEBITMAP__READSTREAM, line 1926 of graphics.pp $0812BFD4 TBITMAP__LOADFROMSTREAM, line 459 of ./include/bitmap.inc $08127A10 LOADBITMAPFROMLAZARUSRESOURCE, line 1509 of graphics.pp $08090CE6 CREATEBUTTON, line 1431 of main.pp $0809084B TMAINIDE__SETUPSPEEDBUTTONS, line 1460 of main.pp $0808FAB7 TMAINIDE__CREATE, line 1117 of main.pp $0805C023 main, line 93 of lazarus.pp TApplication.HandleException buffer error Stack trace: $081A26DE $0819BC0B $0819B9E4 $08196D9D $081949E1 $081367E1 TFPIMAGEBITMAP__READSTREAM, line 1926 of graphics.pp $0812BFD4 TBITMAP__LOADFROMSTREAM, line 459 of ./include/bitmap.inc $08127A10 LOADBITMAPFROMLAZARUSRESOURCE, line 1509 of graphics.pp $08090CE6 CREATEBUTTON, line 1431 of main.pp $0809084B TMAINIDE__SETUPSPEEDBUTTONS, line 1460 of main.pp $0808FAB7 TMAINIDE__CREATE, line 1117 of main.pp $0805C023 main, line 93 of lazarus.pp It seems to run fine under GTK Jeff Steinkamp - N7YG Tucson, AZ SCUD Missile Coordinates N32-13-55.01 W110-50-51.91 http://n7yg.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jksteinkamp Linux User #420428 Skype : jeff_steinkamp Yahoo Messenger: n7yg ___ Anyone who has had a bull by the tail knows five or six things more than someone who hasn't. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Buffer Overflow
--- Jeff Steinkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I just rebuilt Lazarus with SVN 12973 on my Linux box with GTK2 and upon restart I got a error dialog that said buffer overflow. Here is the output trace: TLazarusManager.Run starting /home/n7yg/.lazarus/bin/lazarus ... TApplication.IconChanged - TODO: convert this message...no implementation in gtk or win32 [TMainIDE.Destroy] A [TMainIDE.Destroy] B - inherited Destroy... TMainIDE [TMainIDE.Destroy] END [FORMS.PP] ExceptionOccurred Sender=Ecompressionerror Exception=buffer error Stack trace: $081A26DE $0819BC0B $0819B9E4 $08196D9D $081949E1 $081367E1 TFPIMAGEBITMAP__READSTREAM, line 1926 of graphics.pp $0812BFD4 TBITMAP__LOADFROMSTREAM, line 459 of ./include/bitmap.inc $08127A10 LOADBITMAPFROMLAZARUSRESOURCE, line 1509 of graphics.pp $08090CE6 CREATEBUTTON, line 1431 of main.pp $0809084B TMAINIDE__SETUPSPEEDBUTTONS, line 1460 of main.pp $0808FAB7 TMAINIDE__CREATE, line 1117 of main.pp $0805C023 main, line 93 of lazarus.pp TApplication.HandleException buffer error Stack trace: $081A26DE $0819BC0B $0819B9E4 $08196D9D $081949E1 $081367E1 TFPIMAGEBITMAP__READSTREAM, line 1926 of graphics.pp $0812BFD4 TBITMAP__LOADFROMSTREAM, line 459 of ./include/bitmap.inc $08127A10 LOADBITMAPFROMLAZARUSRESOURCE, line 1509 of graphics.pp $08090CE6 CREATEBUTTON, line 1431 of main.pp $0809084B TMAINIDE__SETUPSPEEDBUTTONS, line 1460 of main.pp $0808FAB7 TMAINIDE__CREATE, line 1117 of main.pp $0805C023 main, line 93 of lazarus.pp It seems to run fine under GTK Jeff Steinkamp - N7YG Tucson, AZ SCUD Missile Coordinates N32-13-55.01 W110-50-51.91 http://n7yg.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jksteinkamp Linux User #420428 Skype : jeff_steinkamp Yahoo Messenger: n7yg The problem is a recent change in FPC, it's already reported in http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=10232 if you compile your own FPC from SVN, for a quick fix, enter directory fpc/packages/paszlib/src and update to r9290 (svn update -r9290) recompile everything and that should do it. Jesus Reyes A. Comparte video en la ventana de tus mensajes (y también tus fotos de Flickr). Usa el nuevo Yahoo! Messenger versión Beta. http://mx.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Sometime right clic menus disappear...
In the IDE, the right clic menu on a control sometimes disappear. I mean a right clic produce nothing. You restart the IDE and it's back. Mainly under win32/64, I don't know how to bug report it. Any idea ? -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
All these errors had occured once booted and the desktop displayed. they are in folder MacOSX - i thought it's something out of topic :) Hm .. i should try to boot it in english. On Nov 23, 2007 7:04 PM, Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Jury Azovtzev wrote: About msttrcorefonts you may do not worry :) Looks like some of ms fonts havn't been downloaded while package installed. I don't see clearly about jpg. What's that and when this error occures? All these errors had occured once booted and the desktop displayed. On Nov 23, 2007 6:01 PM, Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 23, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jury Azovtzev wrote: I tryied with Puppy, but I have memory problems and side effects... Now I'll try with your DVD. I think it was problems with video device detestion. I would appriciat to you for this disk tests. Write here if you'll find any ptoblems and troubles. Under VMWare, there are some troubles :) Screenshots are in the archive file. http://ftn.shikami.org/misc/Lazarus/Lazarus-LiveCD-20071123.zip -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- With best regards. Azovtzev Jury ForceTeam NNLUG www.forceteam.nnov.ru -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- With best regards. Azovtzev Jury ForceTeam NNLUG www.forceteam.nnov.ru
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
On Nov 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Jury Azovtzev wrote: About msttrcorefonts you may do not worry :) Looks like some of ms fonts havn't been downloaded while package installed. I don't see clearly about jpg. What's that and when this error occures? All these errors had occured once booted and the desktop displayed. On Nov 23, 2007 6:01 PM, Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 23, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jury Azovtzev wrote: I tryied with Puppy, but I have memory problems and side effects... Now I'll try with your DVD. I think it was problems with video device detestion. I would appriciat to you for this disk tests. Write here if you'll find any ptoblems and troubles. Under VMWare, there are some troubles :) Screenshots are in the archive file. http://ftn.shikami.org/misc/Lazarus/Lazarus-LiveCD-20071123.zip -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- With best regards. Azovtzev Jury ForceTeam NNLUG www.forceteam.nnov.ru -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
About msttrcorefonts you may do not worry :) Looks like some of ms fonts havn't been downloaded while package installed. I don't see clearly about jpg. What's that and when this error occures? On Nov 23, 2007 6:01 PM, Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 23, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Jury Azovtzev wrote: I tryied with Puppy, but I have memory problems and side effects... Now I'll try with your DVD. I think it was problems with video device detestion. I would appriciat to you for this disk tests. Write here if you'll find any ptoblems and troubles. Under VMWare, there are some troubles :) Screenshots are in the archive file. http://ftn.shikami.org/misc/Lazarus/Lazarus-LiveCD-20071123.zip -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- With best regards. Azovtzev Jury ForceTeam NNLUG www.forceteam.nnov.ru
Re: [lazarus] is laz 9.24 fixes on svn ready to be used?
Bee ha scritto: When a tag (or branch) is made, this action itself also gets a revision nr. Therefore a tag/branch starts with a different revision, but can be based on the same trunk revision. So, a different rev number doesn't mean different codes? I mean between tags (9.24) and the fixes branch. Correct. The fixes branch, in this moment contains 0.9.24 (r. 12749 in trunk branch, 12771 in the fixes branch, but the only change is making it 0.9.24.1) + patches 12756, 12757 12760 12762 12797 12816 12831 12825 12946 from trunk. (I hope I didn't mistype too many, but an svn log -r 12749:HEAD will tell you the truth). The time from 0.9.24 tagging and official announcement was spent on installation and distribution issues, but the code is unchanged. The branch is based (i.e. tested) with fpc 2.2.0 (the same as for the 0.9.24 release), until further notice. Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] calling all Regex and Script junkies
On 23/11/2007, Bee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must be talking about PWU, right? I saw you in the forum. ;) I'd used it for a while, I even had created a real web app using it. The new template engine rocks! :-D For the CGI apps, yes. I've also combined the 'Simple CMS' and 'Syntax Parser' demos from PWU to create a working wiki server. I'm currently implementing a whole bunch of new features plus the Creole 1.0 wiki syntax. Oops, to make this thread Lazarus related (smile), I use the Lazarus IDE for all my development work. Lazarus rocks! Oh by the way, just got a svn update and I love the new Environment Options and Editor Options dialogs. Tabs are so overrated - the listbox thingy on the side looks much more professional! Well done to all the Lazarus developers - the IDE is looking very nice. PS: I just read the release notes. I promise I'll add two new wiki pages to document the 'Procedure List' and 'Editor Toolbar' features. Long overdue and I think developers will find them very handy. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TMaskEdit new release
Guadagnini David wrote: Yes, those actions are *not* handled by the LCL, it is the widgetset itself which handles the paste. Therefore, you won't see a call to SetText. This is a problem for components similar to MaskEdit because no one can handle text input through alternative control + v. Whether you know there is some procedure call after or before a paste command? You don't. However, the widgetsetinterface should notice a control when something is pasted. I don't kbnow if all interfaces implement this atm. Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TMaskEdit new release
Guadagnini David wrote: Again, that did you do ? Paste by doing calling paste, or paste by pressing ctrl-v (or choose paste form edit popup) I tried past with ctrl+v, ctrl+ins and paste from edit popup but It's the same Yes, those actions are *not* handled by the LCL, it is the widgetset itself which handles the paste. Therefore, you won't see a call to SetText. Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Support for load and save PCX format (FPC team)
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, wile64 wrote: Hi, Here is the support of PCX images, Reading all formats and saving format 24 bits. Thank you very much :) I have tested and committed it, revision 9319. To what fpc version will be available (2.2.1)? Maybe in 2.2.2, due around christmas. It depends on the progress in the copyright issue. Michael. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] calling all Regex and Script junkies
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 23/11/2007, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not simply use ShortFile = `basename $f .pas` ? Probably because I never knew about that function! ;-) Thanks Michael. And as I thought, in the time it took for somebody to reply, I wrote a quick console app that generates a perfect script file for me. Free Pascal rocks! :) Makes you wonder why people use things like perl, eh ? :-) Michael. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] calling all Regex and Script junkies
On 23/11/2007, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not simply use ShortFile = `basename $f .pas` ? Probably because I never knew about that function! ;-) Thanks Michael. And as I thought, in the time it took for somebody to reply, I wrote a quick console app that generates a perfect script file for me. Free Pascal rocks! :) Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:24:10 +0300 Jury Azovtzev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as in local college begun to study It with OpenSource software we (NNLUG) and system administrators of NNTC (Nizhny Novgorod Technical College) made a Live CD with Lazarus for student. I hope it'll be intresting for you too. I would like to say my big THENX to Knittl - for the world wide hosting of the cd (Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences) Alex_5252 - for the uploading of the image Viktor Bondarenko and Vladimir Slugin for partisipation and tests (Nizhny novgorod Technical College) You can get LiveCD from Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences hosting http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso and md5sum file is here http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso.md5 Great. Can I add this to the wiki? Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
As soon as in local college begun to study It with OpenSource software we (NNLUG) and system administrators of NNTC (Nizhny Novgorod Technical College) made a Live CD with Lazarus for student. I hope it'll be intresting for you too. I would like to say my big THENX to Knittl - for the world wide hosting of the cd (Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences) Alex_5252 - for the uploading of the image Viktor Bondarenko and Vladimir Slugin for partisipation and tests (Nizhny novgorod Technical College) You can get LiveCD from Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences hosting http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso and md5sum file is here http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso.md5 -- With best regards. Azovtzev Jury ForceTeam NNLUG www.forceteam.nnov.ru
[lazarus] calling all Regex and Script junkies
Hi, I'm trying to create a script to auto generate the fpdoc description (*.xml) files, but I have no idea how the regex stuff works! Could somebody help me please? This is what I have so far... in a myscript.sh file under Linux. The first 'sed' expression was copied from a google search, but I think it was for .NET or something and doesn't work here. :-( As you can guess I know nothing of regex. I just looks like lots of cursing to me! ;-) I'm considering writing a Free Pascal console app to do this, it's a lot damn easier than figuring out this regex stuff. - Copy #!/bin/sh PackageName=OPF XMLBaseDir=./xml PasSrcDir=../Sources/OPF ## create the output directory mkdir -p $XMLBaseDir/$PackageName # process *.pas files and create makeskel line for f in `find $PasSrcDir/ -type f -name *.pas`; do ShortFile=`echo $f | sed -e 's/\/([^/]+)$#//g' -e 's/\.pas\b//g'` echo $ShortFile # this is to test the output line. Remove echo to execute makeskel #echo makeskel --package=$PackageName --output=$XMLBaseDir/$PackageName/$ShortFile.xml --input='-Fi$PasSrcDir $f' done exit 0 - END Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Search engine for Lazarus and Free Pascal concerned stuff
Sam Liddicott wrote: Tom Gregorovic wrote: Hi, it crossed my mind that it would be convenient to have one search service for all the information about Lazarus and Free Pascal, which are in forums, mail list archives, documentation reference, wiki, Mantis, SVN repository, SVN log, blog ... One possibility is Google Custom Search Engine (http://www.google.com/coop/cse/): * it is free for noncommercial usage, but I think it parses not all resources The alternative is to use some web search engine running on own server (e.g. http://www.mnogosearch.org/ ). I recommend xapian; www.xapian.org I've worked on it, I've used it and I've followed it's progress and when I worked at Orange we hired one of the developers to enhance it. It is based on a once-commercial search engine. It's not bad, but it's huge. I'm currently using swish-e, which is small and fast. I once posted a patch to allow interfacing the output of any search engine with the Find-In-Files dialog, but I don't think it got ever merged. Thanks! -- Al _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus]
BTW: Synapse has a unit with quite powerful conversion routines and handles most of the encodings without any support from iconv, i tested it and it's wonderful :) At first i was against UTF8 but now i understand it's power, UTF8 is small since most text is in ASCII 7bit there is no increase there, that's why the web uses UTF8, and it's also best for storage, Microsoft chose UTF16 actually UCS2 because they thought UCS2 will be enough for all characters in all languages, time proved them wrong and UTF16 is NOT 2 byte encoded but 2 or 4 bytes depending on the situation, it helps most people but not everyone and it add an extra empty byte for ASCII text, Delphi seems to have some issues with UTF16 WideStrings i read about it somewhere on the web and there is also a BIG BIG performance decrease using WideStrings in Delphi so Lazarus played it smart with UTF8 keeping ASCII/ANSI compatibility to some level and being fast at the same time, even with the implicit conversion it is still faster than WideString operations, UTF8 might look ugly but it is very efficient. Razvan _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TMaskEdit new release
Again, that did you do ? Paste by doing calling paste, or paste by pressing ctrl-v (or choose paste form edit popup) I tried past with ctrl+v, ctrl+ins and paste from edit popup but It's the same begin:vcard fn:David Guadagnini n:Guadagnini;David org:Biotecnica Instruments S.p.A.;RD adr:;;Via Licenza 18;Roma;RM;00133;Italy email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Software architet tel;work:+39064112616 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
Jury Azovtzev schreef: As soon as in local college begun to study It with OpenSource software we (NNLUG) and system administrators of NNTC (Nizhny Novgorod Technical College) made a Live CD with Lazarus for student. I hope it'll be intresting for you too. I would like to say my big THENX to Knittl - for the world wide hosting of the cd (Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences) Alex_5252 - for the uploading of the image Viktor Bondarenko and Vladimir Slugin for partisipation and tests (Nizhny novgorod Technical College) You can get LiveCD from Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences hosting http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso and md5sum file is here http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso.md5 Good news. Can you create a news item on the Lazarus site? Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus]
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:13:41 +0300 Vasily I. Volchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I understand the problems of using utf8 on windows, but I am speaking about other things. Why lazarus should save (and load) pascal (and only pascal, not lfm/lrs, not po) files in the internal encoding? If gtk2 version supports utf8, it forces user to save all files in utf8, when if windows version not supported it, saving in ansi charset is forced. It is possible (and quite easy by means of RTL) to convert text from utf8 to ansi, why not to use this translation on saving/loading by the choice of user? The old situation was: All widgetsets used their own encoding. The goal is to use UTF-8 as *default*. The missing piece is the win32/win64 widgetset which is currently tested, so it is no yet enabled as default. Probably UTF-8 will be enabled soon. Of course the source editor *should* handle text files (including pascal) in other encodings too. But this is not implemented yet. An easy solution would be to add an converter to the codetools load/save functions. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] is laz 9.24 fixes on svn ready to be used?
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:19:19 +0700 Bee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Start using it right now at your own risk (the updates of two weeks ago have been tested, the last ones not yet) and participate to the fixes branch testing. Never mind the risk, I knew about it since the beginning. What I meant, is the source code on 9.24 fixes branch exactly the same with the source code on 9.24 release? Since 9.24 release was announced yesterday but the fixes updates are two weeks older, I doubt they are the same codes. If someone can guarantee that they are same codes, I'd like to use it. The release was built with rev 12749. The new patches are not included. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Pieter Valentijn wrote: Hi Willem Nice to see your from holland to. Im sure where all intrested in what ever you can produce. You seem to have a impressive ambition that is supporten by your experience. Sorry in my previous post i made a mistake! i used the java grammar file in stead of the pascal grammar file. i used antlrworks to check the grammar and this is the result : [09:12:43] Checking Grammar... [09:12:43] error(100): pascal.g:1:1: syntax error: antlr: pascal.g:1:1: unexpected token: tkAsciiChar [09:12:43] java.lang.NullPointerException at org.antlr.tool.Grammar.setGrammarContent(Grammar.java:524) at org.antlr.tool.Grammar.setGrammarContent(Grammar.java:497) at org.antlr.works.grammar.EngineGrammar.createNewGrammar(Unknown Source) at org.antlr.works.grammar.EngineGrammar.createCombinedGrammar(Unknown Source) at org.antlr.works.grammar.EngineGrammar.createGrammars(Unknown Source) at org.antlr.works.grammar.EngineGrammar.analyze(Unknown Source) at org.antlr.works.grammar.CheckGrammar.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) so i have to work on both the java and the pascal grammar. kind regards. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Valentijn Delphidreams http://www.delphidreams.nl -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: willem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 23 november 2007 0:56 Aan: lazarus@miraclec.com Onderwerp: Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :) Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:52:59PM +0100, willem wrote: I know that the lazarus grammar is based on yacc I did some google search on the fpc I do know that google searches results are not always correct. I a a newby to the lazarus project. but i did study compiler comnstruction 30 years ago. Pascal has been founded by Prof niklaus Wirth as an an educational computer language and he has extended the backus -nauer form to EBNF. Well I am going to extend ENBF with XML. Grammar is very important as a base to study a language. I want to start Andromedia. The first effort will be documenting the delphi antlr grammar. I will use XML for that. because the the delphi grammar can easily be expanded with an XML specification. I did study websites with html and javascript. That horrible and it takes a lot of time to understand that kind of thing well i have 30 years of experience with computing problems my first computer experience was with the intel 4004 but i am a newby on this forum. My intentention is is to start the androida project on sourceforge I will then publish the delphi grammar for antlr. Experienced Lazarus developpers can then suggest improvements on this delphi grammar and so it becomes lazarus grammar. I want to extend the delphi grammar with XML So EBNF becomes XEBNF !!! The FPC is recursive descent and is not based on yacc. Syntax highlighter parsers don't have to be 100% correct. Before you start you might also learn your target better, and at least have an idea how you are going to tackle porting unmanaged constructs to a managed version. Sorry you are wrong. I have already the delphi grammar for antlr There is even one in the Delphi's manual. But even that is not complete. How can you be so sure yours is? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Pieter Valentijn wrote:
Hi Willem Nice to see your from holland to.
Im sure where all intrested in what ever you can produce.
You seem to have a impressive ambition that is supporten by your
experience.
Hello Pieter,
Yes i am from holland.
i am experienced but ia newby in the lazarus field.
So i start with the grammar.
simply because i got a lot of teaching about grammar at school.
i downloaded the pascal grammar of the web.
and run it strough antlrwork and checked the pascal grammar.
this was the result.
[08:54:51] Checking Grammar...
[08:54:53] warning(200): java.g:777:5: Decision can match input such as
'0'..'9'{'E', 'e'}{'+', '-'}'0'..'9'{'D', 'F', 'd', 'f'} using
multiple alternatives: 3, 4
As a result, alternative(s) 4 were disabled for that input
so thats interesting !!
i have no idea what it means but i will find.
because i did study study 30 years ago
so i have to refresh my knowledge.
i have attached the pascal grammar in this post.
regards
Met vriendelijke groet,
Pieter Valentijn
Delphidreams
http://www.delphidreams.nl
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: willem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 23 november 2007 0:56
Aan: lazarus@miraclec.com
Onderwerp: Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:52:59PM +0100, willem wrote:
I know that the lazarus grammar is based on yacc
I did some google search on the fpc
I do know that google searches results are not always correct. I a a
newby to the lazarus project. but i did study compiler comnstruction 30
years ago. Pascal has been founded by Prof niklaus Wirth as an an
educational
computer language
and he has extended the backus -nauer form to EBNF.
Well I am going to extend ENBF with XML.
Grammar is very important as a base to study a language.
I want to start Andromedia.
The first effort will be documenting the delphi antlr grammar. I will
use XML for that. because the the delphi grammar can easily be expanded
with an XML
specification.
I did study websites with html and javascript. That horrible and it
takes a lot of time to understand that kind of thing
well i have 30 years of experience with computing problems
my first computer experience was with the intel 4004 but i am a newby on
this forum.
My intentention is is to start the androida project on sourceforge I
will then publish the delphi grammar for antlr. Experienced Lazarus
developpers can then suggest improvements on this
delphi grammar and so it becomes
lazarus grammar. I want to extend the delphi grammar with XML So EBNF
becomes XEBNF !!!
The FPC is recursive descent and is not based on yacc. Syntax
highlighter parsers don't have to be 100% correct.
Before you start you might also learn your target better, and at
least
have
an idea how you are going to tackle porting unmanaged constructs to
a
managed version.
Sorry you are wrong.
I have already the delphi grammar for antlr
There is even one in the Delphi's manual. But even that is not
complete. How can you be so sure yours is?
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/** A Java 1.5 grammar for ANTLR v3 derived from the spec
*
* This is a very close representation of the spec; the changes
* are comestic (remove left recursion) and also fixes (the spec
* isn't exactly perfect). I have run this on the 1.4.2 source
* and some nasty looking enums from 1.5, but have not really
* tested for 1.5 compatibility.
*
* I built this with: java -Xmx100M org.antlr.Tool java.g
* and got two errors that are ok (for now):
* java.g:691:9: Decision can match input such as
*'0'..'9'{'E', 'e'}{'+', '-'}'0'..'9'{'D', 'F', 'd', 'f'}
*using multiple alternatives: 3, 4
* As a result, alternative(s) 4 were disabled for that input
* java.g:734:35: Decision can match input such as {'$', 'A'..'Z',
*'_', 'a'..'z', '\u00C0'..'\u00D6', '\u00D8'..'\u00F6',
*'\u00F8'..'\u1FFF', '\u3040'..'\u318F', '\u3300'..'\u337F',
*'\u3400'..'\u3D2D', '\u4E00'..'\u9FFF', '\uF900'..'\uFAFF'}
*using multiple alternatives: 1, 2
* As a result, alternative(s) 2 were disabled for that input
*
* You can turn enum on/off as a keyword :)
*
* Version 1.0 -- initial release July 5, 2006 (requires 3.0b2 or
Re: [lazarus] calling all Regex and Script junkies
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, I'm trying to create a script to auto generate the fpdoc description (*.xml) files, but I have no idea how the regex stuff works! Could somebody help me please? This is what I have so far... in a myscript.sh file under Linux. The first 'sed' expression was copied from a google search, but I think it was for .NET or something and doesn't work here. :-( As you can guess I know nothing of regex. I just looks like lots of cursing to me! ;-) I'm considering writing a Free Pascal console app to do this, it's a lot damn easier than figuring out this regex stuff. - Copy #!/bin/sh PackageName=OPF XMLBaseDir=./xml PasSrcDir=../Sources/OPF ## create the output directory mkdir -p $XMLBaseDir/$PackageName # process *.pas files and create makeskel line for f in `find $PasSrcDir/ -type f -name *.pas`; do ShortFile=`echo $f | sed -e 's/\/([^/]+)$#//g' -e 's/\.pas\b//g'` echo $ShortFile Why not simply use ShortFile = `basename $f .pas` ? Michael. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
Yes please :) I would be proud to be on the wiki :) On Nov 23, 2007 12:32 PM, Mattias Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:24:10 +0300 Jury Azovtzev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as in local college begun to study It with OpenSource software we (NNLUG) and system administrators of NNTC (Nizhny Novgorod Technical College) made a Live CD with Lazarus for student. I hope it'll be intresting for you too. I would like to say my big THENX to Knittl - for the world wide hosting of the cd (Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences) Alex_5252 - for the uploading of the image Viktor Bondarenko and Vladimir Slugin for partisipation and tests (Nizhny novgorod Technical College) You can get LiveCD from Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences hosting http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso and md5sum file is here http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso.md5 Great. Can I add this to the wiki? Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- With best regards. Azovtzev Jury ForceTeam NNLUG www.forceteam.nnov.ru
Re: [lazarus] is laz 9.24 fixes on svn ready to be used?
The release was built with rev 12749. The new patches are not included. Is 9.24 release is taken from tags folder? I saw it with rev 12750. And I saw the fixes branch is on rev 12958. I look them in laz's svn. Am I correct? Or any other repository that I don't know? -Bee- has Bee.ography at: http://beeography.wordpress.com _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TMaskEdit new release
Guadagnini David wrote: In attach You can found my TMaskEdit component with the changes proposed by Marc. Note: TComponent have a big bug (for me). The windows message WM_PASTE is not processed correctly. In fact, if the override procedure RealSetText or WndProc by entering a simple Begin/End without other the text is still overridden if I execute a PAST command (note the text will be override only with past command, not with key press or with a normal TEXT := 'Mystring') Again, that did you do ? Paste by doing calling paste, or paste by pressing ctrl-v (or choose paste form edit popup) Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
Hm, May be if i have permission to post news. On Nov 23, 2007 12:52 PM, Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jury Azovtzev schreef: As soon as in local college begun to study It with OpenSource software we (NNLUG) and system administrators of NNTC (Nizhny Novgorod Technical College) made a Live CD with Lazarus for student. I hope it'll be intresting for you too. I would like to say my big THENX to Knittl - for the world wide hosting of the cd (Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences) Alex_5252 - for the uploading of the image Viktor Bondarenko and Vladimir Slugin for partisipation and tests (Nizhny novgorod Technical College) You can get LiveCD from Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences hosting http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso and md5sum file is here http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso.md5 Good news. Can you create a news item on the Lazarus site? Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- With best regards. Azovtzev Jury ForceTeam NNLUG www.forceteam.nnov.ru
Re: [lazarus] is laz 9.24 fixes on svn ready to be used?
Bee wrote: The release was built with rev 12749. The new patches are not included. Is 9.24 release is taken from tags folder? I saw it with rev 12750. And I saw the fixes branch is on rev 12958. I look them in laz's svn. Am I correct? Or any other repository that I don't know? in svn are 3 folders: trunk, tags, branches trunk: current development tags: all releases branches: fixes on releases These aren't real folders, but more a shortcut to a certain revision. When a tag (or branch) is made, this action itself also gets a revision nr. Therefore a tag/branch starts with a different revision, but can be based on the same trunk revision. Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
Jury Azovtzev wrote: As soon as in local college begun to study It with OpenSource software we (NNLUG) and system administrators of NNTC (Nizhny Novgorod Technical College) made a Live CD with Lazarus for student. I hope it'll be intresting for you too. I would like to say my big THENX to Knittl - for the world wide hosting of the cd (Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences) Alex_5252 - for the uploading of the image Viktor Bondarenko and Vladimir Slugin for partisipation and tests (Nizhny novgorod Technical College) You can get LiveCD from Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences hosting http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso and md5sum file is here http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso.md5 while downloading in order to try it, I see that it's 942 MB in size, have I to burn it on a DVD? one other silly question: I think that the limitation of using Lazarus on a Live Distribution is that I can't create/install new components, am I right? tiziano _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
B in size, have I to burn it on a DVD? Maybe yes. I used only DVD RW disks for test so sorry, didn't noticed the size :) I can't create/install new components, am I right? You may try. But i think you a right. We don't need additional applications for education purposes in the College now. But if you'll tell me what modules you need - i can add it to new version of LiveCD/DVD. On Nov 23, 2007 1:56 PM, Tiziano De Togni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jury Azovtzev wrote: As soon as in local college begun to study It with OpenSource software we (NNLUG) and system administrators of NNTC (Nizhny Novgorod Technical College) made a Live CD with Lazarus for student. I hope it'll be intresting for you too. I would like to say my big THENX to Knittl - for the world wide hosting of the cd (Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences) Alex_5252 - for the uploading of the image Viktor Bondarenko and Vladimir Slugin for partisipation and tests (Nizhny novgorod Technical College) You can get LiveCD from Austrian Univeristy of Applied Sciences hosting http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso and md5sum file is here http://www.sigma-server.com/liveCD/Ubuntu-7.10-NTC-Lazarus.iso.md5 while downloading in order to try it, I see that it's 942 MB in size, have I to burn it on a DVD? one other silly question: I think that the limitation of using Lazarus on a Live Distribution is that I can't create/install new components, am I right? tiziano _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- With best regards. Azovtzev Jury ForceTeam NNLUG www.forceteam.nnov.ru
Re: [lazarus] TMaskEdit new release
Yes, those actions are *not* handled by the LCL, it is the widgetset itself which handles the paste. Therefore, you won't see a call to SetText. This is a problem for components similar to MaskEdit because no one can handle text input through alternative control + v. Whether you know there is some procedure call after or before a paste command? begin:vcard fn:David Guadagnini n:Guadagnini;David org:Biotecnica Instruments S.p.A.;RD adr:;;Via Licenza 18;Roma;RM;00133;Italy email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Software architet tel;work:+39064112616 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [lazarus] is laz 9.24 fixes on svn ready to be used?
When a tag (or branch) is made, this action itself also gets a revision nr. Therefore a tag/branch starts with a different revision, but can be based on the same trunk revision. So, a different rev number doesn't mean different codes? I mean between tags (9.24) and the fixes branch. -Bee- has Bee.ography at: http://beeography.wordpress.com _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] calling all Regex and Script junkies
On 23/11/2007, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And as I thought, in the time it took for somebody to reply, I wrote a quick console app that generates a perfect script file for me. Free Pascal rocks! :) Makes you wonder why people use things like perl, eh ? :-) Don't get me started! :-) I've never created console based apps with Delphi or Free Pascal. But since the last few months (while working on a CGI program created with FPC), I have noticed how powerful it can be. Creating small utilities or testing some function etc. It's a whole new world... :) Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
Jury Azovtzev wrote: I can't create/install new components, am I right? You may try. But i think you a right. I tryied with Puppy, but I have memory problems and side effects... Now I'll try with your DVD. We don't need additional applications for education purposes in the College now. But if you'll tell me what modules you need - i can add it to new version of LiveCD/DVD. I agree with you, students don't need that and the mix of components pre-installed can be tuned in new versions. tiziano _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.24 LiveCD
I tryied with Puppy, but I have memory problems and side effects... Now I'll try with your DVD. I think it was problems with video device detestion. I would appriciat to you for this disk tests. Write here if you'll find any ptoblems and troubles. On Nov 23, 2007 2:27 PM, Tiziano De Togni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jury Azovtzev wrote: I can't create/install new components, am I right? You may try. But i think you a right. I tryied with Puppy, but I have memory problems and side effects... Now I'll try with your DVD. We don't need additional applications for education purposes in the College now. But if you'll tell me what modules you need - i can add it to new version of LiveCD/DVD. I agree with you, students don't need that and the mix of components pre-installed can be tuned in new versions. tiziano _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- With best regards. Azovtzev Jury ForceTeam NNLUG www.forceteam.nnov.ru
Re[2]: [lazarus]
At first i was against UTF8 but now i understand it's power, UTF8 is small since most text is in ASCII 7bit there is no increase there, that's why the web uses UTF8, and it's also best for storage, Microsoft chose UTF16 actually UCS2 because they thought UCS2 will be enough for all characters in all languages, time proved them wrong and UTF16 is NOT 2 byte encoded but 2 or 4 bytes depending on the situation, it helps most people but not everyone and it add an extra empty byte for ASCII text, Delphi seems to have some issues with UTF16 WideStrings i read about it somewhere on the web and there is also a BIG BIG performance decrease using WideStrings in Delphi so Lazarus played it smart with UTF8 keeping ASCII/ANSI compatibility to some level and being fast at the same time, even with the implicit conversion it is still faster than WideString operations, UTF8 might look ugly but it is very efficient. UTF8 might be good in the case of international texts mostly English. You say that pascal program is such a text, and I would agree with you. But we are living in a real world, with a tons of text files. Russian files in Russia will not mostly be converted to UTF8 because of twice size grouth and... Inconvenience. Old programs... They are in ANSI. It is possible to convert all them to UTF8, but why? Look at Windows which introduced unicode: the first step in it was backward compartibility. We don't notice any unicode in it (until we want to notice). Look at Kylix (oe) or Delphi 7 (personal): it uses unicode too, but only in dfm/xfm (and, of course, internal support). And lazarus team is trying to force UTF8 introduction with a revolution without supporting neither old project nor saving files (and only saving) in compartible with other projects format. Besides, that revolutionary process begins when the other version of the same product doesn't support such utf8. OK, I'll try to do something... _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus]
Vasily I. Volchenko schreef: And lazarus team is trying to force UTF8 introduction with a revolution without supporting neither old project nor saving files (and only saving) in compartible with other projects format. Besides, that revolutionary process begins when the other version of the same product doesn't support such utf8. OK, I'll try to do something... Fortunately Lazarus is still beta, breaking things can be expected. Other versions of Lazarus (for linux-gtk2, windows-qt) already use UTF8. Vincent P.S. Please remove the reply too header. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
