Re: [lazarus] DOS platform conditional defines

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Van Canneyt


On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Marco Alvarado wrote:

 Hello! In Free Pascal Compiler 2.0.4, is there a conditional define I
 could check for DOS platform? I was looking around Google, but no
 luck. If anyone can give me a link for the whole list of conditional
 that will be even more appreciated!

See

http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/prog/progap7.html#x310-311000G

Michael

 
 Thanks!
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Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-18 Thread Gerard N/A
On Jan 18, 2008 8:46 AM, Dave Coventry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, it was licensing issues that brought me away from Delphi.

 I have Delphi 3 Standard and I still code with it, I never upgraded to
 4 because it had a bad re tion, when 5 came out they had changed
 the license so that you were no longer free to distribute your
 applications unless you shelled out for the Enterprise edition which
 was out of my price bracket.


Uh? This would mean that I've been distributing apps illegally made with pro
versions for years. Are you sure?


Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-18 Thread Dave Coventry
On Jan 18, 2008 10:03 AM, Gerard N/A  wrote:
 Uh? This would mean that I've been distributing apps illegally made with pro
 versions for years. Are you sure?



Reasonably sure.

I read the licensing stuff a few years back and I could be wrong, but
that's how I understood it.

If anyone has information on this, I'm happy to stand corrected.

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Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-18 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Jan 18, 2008 9:37 AM, Dave Coventry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If anyone has information on this, I'm happy to stand corrected.

You can just ask on borland.delphi.non-tech newsgroup and get an
answer from CodeGear.

Anyway, I find that impossible. Who would buy an IDE with which you
can't redistribute apps???

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Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE

2008-01-18 Thread Gerard N/A
I added two reports with patches in the bug tracker, both for the parsing
issue (10650) and the comment (10651).


Re: [lazarus] DOS platform conditional defines

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Van Canneyt


On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Damien Gerard wrote:

 
 On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
 
 
 
  On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Marco Alvarado wrote:
 
   Hello! In Free Pascal Compiler 2.0.4, is there a conditional define I
   could check for DOS platform? I was looking around Google, but no
   luck. If anyone can give me a link for the whole list of conditional
   that will be even more appreciated!
 
  See
 
  http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/prog/progap7.html#x310-311000G
 
 
 Mac OS X is not flagged as UNIX ?

Darwin is, but not mac os X. This has been corrected in the docs, but they
have not been published yet.

Michael.

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Re: [lazarus] DOS platform conditional defines

2008-01-18 Thread Damien Gerard


On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:




On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Marco Alvarado wrote:


Hello! In Free Pascal Compiler 2.0.4, is there a conditional define I
could check for DOS platform? I was looking around Google, but no
luck. If anyone can give me a link for the whole list of conditional
that will be even more appreciated!


See

http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/prog/progap7.html#x310-311000G



Mac OS X is not flagged as UNIX ?


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Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-18 Thread Gerard N/A
I just read Dephi 7 Pro (I don't have earlier versions installed anymore)
license.txt and deploy.txt and it says I can freely distribute my compiled
apps, along with some Borland binary files (runtime packages, BDE, Active X
Controls)
The only restrictions are for some of the runtime packages (Mainly Datasnap
and Websnap ) and the BDE SQL links for wich Enterprise is required.
Since I never used any of these, I'm Ok.
BTW, even the Personal edition has a list (shorter) of redistributable
packages.


Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-18 Thread Dave Coventry
Is that the Standard Edition?

I have the Delphi 3 Standard Edition which allows me to distribute apps.

I believe that subsequent Upgrades split into 'Standard Edition' and
'Enterprise Edition'.

The Enterprise Edition allowed you to distribute your apps, but the
Standard Edition added certain restrictins, IIRC.

On Jan 18, 2008 10:56 AM, Gerard N/A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just read Dephi 7 Pro (I don't have earlier versions installed anymore)
 license.txt and deploy.txt and it says I can freely distribute my compiled
 apps, along with some Borland binary files (runtime packages, BDE, Active X
 Controls)
 The only restrictions are for some of the runtime packages (Mainly Datasnap
 and Websnap ) and the BDE SQL links for wich Enterprise is required.
 Since I never used any of these, I'm Ok.
 BTW, even the Personal edition has a list (shorter) of redistributable
 packages.


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Re: [lazarus] SVN

2008-01-18 Thread Marc Weustink

Stephano wrote:

Vincent Snijders wrote:

Can you try with svn2.freepascal.org?

Same problem with http://svn2.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk!

Moreover, http://svn.freepascal.org:8080/svn/lazarus/trunk and 


Ah, I guess that since the rebuild of the svnserver is doesn't listen to 
8080 anymore



The other svn repositories you mentioned, are they too on the default 
http port 80 (and have you recently accessed them )?


Marc


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Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-18 Thread Gerard N/A
On Jan 18, 2008 10:21 AM, Dave Coventry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is that the Standard Edition?


No, it's the Professional edition.


 I have the Delphi 3 Standard Edition which allows me to distribute apps.


 I believe that subsequent Upgrades split into 'Standard Edition' and
 'Enterprise Edition'.


No, there was Personal, Professional and Enterprise. All three allowed
distribution.


Re: [lazarus] SVN

2008-01-18 Thread Stephano

John wrote:
I don't know about SVN, but with TortoiseSVN open the settings panel 
and go to the network item, and there is a sheet to fill in just like 
browser settings.  Works for me via  a squid  proxy cache.  (But not 
necessarily at the moment, I haven't updated for a few weeks).


Same behaviour with proxy. Thanks for the tip anyway, it was good to 
learn more about TortoiseSVN.


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Re: [lazarus] SVN

2008-01-18 Thread Stephano

Marc Weustink wrote:
The other svn repositories you mentioned, are they too on the default 
http port 80 (and have you recently accessed them )?


Now things have gone back to normal! I can access FPC  Lazarus svn again :)

The working svn urls are (at the time FPC  Lazarus svn were out of 
reach for me):

https://fpgui.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/fpgui/trunk
svn://firmos.at/zeos/trunk
https://lazarus-ccr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/lazarus-ccr/components/acs

so basically not on port 80.

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RE: [lazarus] Problem with printing

2008-01-18 Thread Hess, Philip J
From cupsdyn.pp:

  cupsLibs :Array[0..MaxcupsLibs] of string = ('libcups.so',
   'libcups.so.2',
   '/usr/lib/libcups.dylib');

InitializeCups exits after loading one of these libraries, trying each one in 
the order given.

Thanks.

-Phil


-Original Message-
From: Jon Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:19 PM
To: lazarus@miraclec.com
Subject: Re: [lazarus] Problem with printing

After running my report on my older version of Linux I have indeed seen 
that it does print landscape as expected. So this doesn't appear to be a 
Lazarus problem. I know its not CUPS or the print filters because my 
other programs don't have any trouble printing Landscape.

So any insight as to what other libraries Lazarus (on Linux) is using 
for printing would be a big help to try and determine where the failing 
component is. Maybe its a GTK thing? I use the TPrintDialog component to 
setup the initial print environment and then in code I force it to 
Landscape.

THX - Jon

Jesus Reyes wrote:
 --- Jon Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

   
 I've run into a problem with the Printers unit. I have a piece of
 code 
 that was working with 0.9.20 but isn't working with 0.9.24. It
 seems 
 that when you configure a print job for landscape it doesn't take
 affect 
 until the second page. The first page still prints portrait. Here
 is a 
 snippet of code to demonstrate:

 if not PrintDialog1.execute then exit;
 with printer do begin
  orientation:=poLandscape;
  PaperSize.PaperName:='Letter'; { This should be the default }
  BeginDoc;
  canvas.TextOut(100, 100, 'Portrait Text')
  newpage;
  canvas.TextOut(100, 100, 'Landscape Text')
  EndDoc;
 end;


 I've even tried setting the landscape setting in the print dialog

 caused by the first line and I get exactly the same results. Is
 there a 
 fix for this?

 THX - Jon

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 What OS? if windows, please try revision r13448 or later, your sample
 code works fine here under windows with default printer, if problem
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Re: [lazarus] BerkeleyDB in Lazarus

2008-01-18 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:16:24AM +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
 On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Marco van de Voort wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:12:23PM +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
BerkeleyDB is supported in Lazarus?
   
   Not unless you translate the C headers...
  
  http://www.stack.nl/~marcov/bdb.zip
 
 Maybe put this in the packages ?

Afaik we talked about this on the way to Muenchen. It was never tested

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Re: [lazarus] Patch for processing WM_COPYDATA in Win32 / BugID 9210

2008-01-18 Thread Micha Nelissen
Lukas Gradl wrote:
 I, for example, needed it to talk to some external application
 remote-controlled by WM_COPYDATA - that's why I tracked down the way of
 the message and submitted this patch.
 
 I'm not quite shure if we need it in other interfaces too - it's a
 windows-specific message.

This is my point, it's best to find a way to offer a cross-platform
interface for this if possible. I've no experience using WM_COPYDATA so
can't really comment much here.

Micha

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Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-18 Thread Steven Graham

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:


 Reading that wiki, it would make me choose Lazarus over Delphi!
(which I have)  ;-)  Lazarus seem to have nicer features...
  


Well, I've certainly found features in Lazarus too that would make it 
very very difficult to go back to Delphi, mainly the support for 64-bit 
unsigned Integers, which AFAIK Delphi still doesn't support  (signed 
64-bit integers only)


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Re: [lazarus] MouseMove problem in WinCE

2008-01-18 Thread Paul Michell
On Friday 04 January 2008 11:32:26 Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:

 The problem is that no wince snapshot using fpc 2.2.1 ... If you are
 brave enougth there are step-by-step instructions on the wiki on how
 to build a wince cross-compiler from code.

 http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/WinCE_port

I have now managed to build a wince cross-compiler for 2.2.1 and the canvas 
drawing problem no longer occurs.

Thanks for your help,

Paul  

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Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-18 Thread Jon Foster
I don't want to put down Lazarus because I think it has tremendous 
potential and like the others here I love the cross-platform capability. 
On the other hand I have yet to be able to accomplish any serious 
project with it. I've run into a series of issues with just about every 
component I've tried to use . So I usually hang up my hat and break out 
Kylix again.


A definite plus is that the core libraries that I've written will 
compile with either Borland or FPC. I use FPC almost completely for 
command line stuff. I just need to be able to crank out some GUI stuff 
without having to loose time to debugging the libraries.


Now that I've upgraded (not sure it was an improvement) my workstation 
to Debian 4.0 I can no longer run Kylix. :-) This means that I too will 
soon be joining the ranks of Lazarus contributors in any way that I can.


-Jon

Lee Jenkins wrote:

hy-soft wrote:

Hi,

I am monitoring lazarus for about five years now and find the whole
project is very impressive.

You guys did a great job - but unfortunately the IDE is NOT in some
state that could be used for a productive work (IMHO).



I've been using Lazarus on Windows seriously for about a year now and 
I've become pretty damn productive with it.  I don't use it on Linux a 
lot (yet), but the occasions that I have used it on linux, my 
experience is pretty much about the same on windows, less the 
nooberific state of my linux knowledge of course.


Are you talking in the context of the IDE compared to Visual Studio, 
Delphi 2007?  I started Delphi with version 6 so Lazarus to me is very 
comparable.  I have recently purchased Delphi 2007 and I must say, it 
really is a very nice IDE.  $400.00 U.S was the upgrade price I think, 
but I have yet to use it for a serious project since I've been using 
Lazarus.


I've been using Lazarus because I want my current projects to be 
cross-platform.  That is the value for me and my customers.  As nice 
as Delphi2007 IDE *really* is, it doesn't compile cross-platform or 
even to 64 bit, but Lazarus does.  And what's more, Lazarus is on par 
with Delphi6 (IMO) IDE which makes it the most workable, viable and 
robust solution for using ObjectPascal to build apps portable between 
platforms.


For me, the cross platform nature (and close compatibility to delphi) 
of Lazaurs provides enough built in value (not to mention the price 
:)) to adapt myself to using it with the features it offers now.


Like me, you're probably impressed with the increased level of traffic 
and involvement there is in the freepascal and lazarus projects over 
the last couple of years.  Its enough to give me the confidence to use 
lazarus/freepascal for some production, commercial products.



Welcome Back!




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Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-18 Thread Damien Gerard


On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:53 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:


On 18/01/2008, Jon Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On the other hand I have yet to be able to accomplish any serious
project with it. I've run into a series of issues with just about  
every

component I've tried to use.




The main issues remain mainly under Windows for my part. I have 2  
serious project with Lazarus and it is possible to make with it. I  
agree there are still some problems for some part of the LCL. However  
I was surprised when my first big project compiles and runs very well  
under OS X and the Carbon Interface.




I had the same experience.  Good news is that you have a few choices.
1. Start cranking out LCL patches to fix the issues.  ;-)   2. Ditch
the LCL, but continue using Lazarus with a different GUI toolkit.
I've had great success with option 2.


I am not sure it is the good solution. A lot of work has been done  
with the current LCL and the main widgetset.





Now that I've upgraded (not sure it was an improvement) my  
workstation
to Debian 4.0 I can no longer run Kylix. :-) This means that I too  
will


I've heard there is some or other patch which allows the IDE to run on
the newer distros. Fixing the debugger issue and the installation
issue.  I read it recently, but unfotunately can't remember any link.

Regards,
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Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-18 Thread Lee Jenkins

Jon Foster wrote:
I don't want to put down Lazarus because I think it has tremendous 
potential and like the others here I love the cross-platform capability. 
On the other hand I have yet to be able to accomplish any serious 
project with it. I've run into a series of issues with just about every 
component I've tried to use . So I usually hang up my hat and break out 
Kylix again.


A definite plus is that the core libraries that I've written will 
compile with either Borland or FPC. I use FPC almost completely for 
command line stuff. I just need to be able to crank out some GUI stuff 
without having to loose time to debugging the libraries.


Now that I've upgraded (not sure it was an improvement) my workstation 
to Debian 4.0 I can no longer run Kylix. :-) This means that I too will 
soon be joining the ranks of Lazarus contributors in any way that I can.


-Jon



I started using Lazarus/FPC to write console apps (also called Asterisk Gateway
Interface or AGI) for the Asterisk PBX system on linux  about a year ago and
have just recently started using Lazarus for GUI development.

I'm in the process of re-writing a Windows operator control panel for Asterisk
written originally in Delphi:
http://www.datatrakpos.com/pos/datatalk/maestro.aspx

I have also started using Lazarus and tiOPF to re-write a scaled down
version of our company's P.O.S. application which I'm hoping will be ready for
beta testing by the end of the summer.

I think for me, the biggest challenge was re-thinking the GUI widgets that I
use.  Windows development seems to be centered around the sizzle of GUI
components where everyone is trying to have their apps look like the latest
version of MS Office and I have been on that bandwagon a bit myself until 
recently.

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Re: [lazarus] Problem with printing

2008-01-18 Thread Jon Foster
After running my report on my older version of Linux I have indeed seen 
that it does print landscape as expected. So this doesn't appear to be a 
Lazarus problem. I know its not CUPS or the print filters because my 
other programs don't have any trouble printing Landscape.


So any insight as to what other libraries Lazarus (on Linux) is using 
for printing would be a big help to try and determine where the failing 
component is. Maybe its a GTK thing? I use the TPrintDialog component to 
setup the initial print environment and then in code I force it to 
Landscape.


THX - Jon

Jesus Reyes wrote:

--- Jon Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  

I've run into a problem with the Printers unit. I have a piece of
code 
that was working with 0.9.20 but isn't working with 0.9.24. It
seems 
that when you configure a print job for landscape it doesn't take
affect 
until the second page. The first page still prints portrait. Here
is a 
snippet of code to demonstrate:


if not PrintDialog1.execute then exit;
with printer do begin
orientation:=poLandscape;
PaperSize.PaperName:='Letter'; { This should be the default }
BeginDoc;
canvas.TextOut(100, 100, 'Portrait Text')
newpage;
canvas.TextOut(100, 100, 'Landscape Text')
EndDoc;
end;


I've even tried setting the landscape setting in the print dialog

caused by the first line and I get exactly the same results. Is
there a 
fix for this?


THX - Jon

--
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What OS? if windows, please try revision r13448 or later, your sample
code works fine here under windows with default printer, if problem
persist please submit a bug report.

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Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 18/01/2008, Jon Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On the other hand I have yet to be able to accomplish any serious
 project with it. I've run into a series of issues with just about every
 component I've tried to use.

I had the same experience.  Good news is that you have a few choices.
1. Start cranking out LCL patches to fix the issues.  ;-)   2. Ditch
the LCL, but continue using Lazarus with a different GUI toolkit.
I've had great success with option 2.

 Now that I've upgraded (not sure it was an improvement) my workstation
 to Debian 4.0 I can no longer run Kylix. :-) This means that I too will

I've heard there is some or other patch which allows the IDE to run on
the newer distros. Fixing the debugger issue and the installation
issue.  I read it recently, but unfotunately can't remember any link.

Regards,
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Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-18 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 18 January 2008 21.53:27 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
 On 18/01/2008, Jon Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On the other hand I have yet to be able to accomplish any serious
  project with it. I've run into a series of issues with just about every
  component I've tried to use.

 I had the same experience.  Good news is that you have a few choices.
 1. Start cranking out LCL patches to fix the issues.  ;-)   2. Ditch
 the LCL, but continue using Lazarus with a different GUI toolkit.
 I've had great success with option 2.

3. MSEide+MSEgui ;-)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/

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