[lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
Trolltech gets acquired by Nokia. The key motivation of Nokia is CrossPlatform development. That also a kyey interest of Lazarus. So I think the Qt interface is becoming more important in the future. Regards Wim _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
On Jan 28, 2008 2:05 AM, willem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trolltech gets acquired by Nokia. The key motivation of Nokia is CrossPlatform development. That also a kyey interest of Lazarus. So I think the Qt interface is becoming more important in the future. Regards Wim Well, it's not quite official yet. 90% of shareholders still have to approve the deal and only 66% have so far, and it has to get regulatory approval as well. But it looks like it's just a formality at this point, and they say it will be completed some time in the second quarter. As for the cross-platform motivation, this is probably true but not because of the desktop platforms. I believe Nokia is much more interested in Qtopia (the embedded version of Qt). Now, as to what this means for Qt's future, I don't know. Remember what happened to BeOS when it was acquired by Palm? I have a gut feeling that Nokia is not so interested in the open source side of things regardless of what they may say in press releases, and will try to close that aspect up as soon as it can. As I recall, Trolltech only made Qt open source very reluctantly and only after much pressure from linux open-source advocates. The Windows GPL version is still pretty restrictive. I now expect the current version of Qt to be the last GPL'd version, although a fork seems likely at this point which will probably be lead by the KDE team. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
John Stoneham wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 2:05 AM, willem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trolltech gets acquired by Nokia. The key motivation of Nokia is CrossPlatform development. That also a kyey interest of Lazarus. So I think the Qt interface is becoming more important in the future. Regards Wim Well, it's not quite official yet. 90% of shareholders still have to approve the deal and only 66% have so far, and it has to get regulatory approval as well. But it looks like it's just a formality at this point, and they say it will be completed some time in the second quarter. As for the cross-platform motivation, this is probably true but not because of the desktop platforms. I believe Nokia is much more interested in Qtopia (the embedded version of Qt). Now, as to what this means for Qt's future, I don't know. Remember what happened to BeOS when it was acquired by Palm? I have a gut feeling that Nokia is not so interested in the open source side of things regardless of what they may say in press releases, and will try to close that aspect up as soon as it can. As I recall, Trolltech only made Qt open source very reluctantly and only after much pressure from linux open-source advocates. The Windows GPL version is still pretty restrictive. I now expect the current version of Qt to be the last GPL'd version, although a fork seems likely at this point which will probably be lead by the KDE team. Reverting back to closed source software will hurt Qt and indirectly Lazarus also :( I hope it's just a bad feeling Regards Boguslaw _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
Qt4 cannot be closed. Development can be stopped from the Trolltech/Nokia side, but the GPL v4 which was released will remain. Moreover, the foundation has rights to continue Qt development should Trolltech be bought. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
Bogusław Brandys wrote: John Stoneham wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 2:05 AM, willem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trolltech gets acquired by Nokia. The key motivation of Nokia is CrossPlatform development. That also a kyey interest of Lazarus. So I think the Qt interface is becoming more important in the future. Regards Wim Well, it's not quite official yet. 90% of shareholders still have to approve the deal and only 66% have so far, and it has to get regulatory approval as well. But it looks like it's just a formality at this point, and they say it will be completed some time in the second quarter. As for the cross-platform motivation, this is probably true but not because of the desktop platforms. I believe Nokia is much more interested in Qtopia (the embedded version of Qt). Now, as to what this means for Qt's future, I don't know. Remember what happened to BeOS when it was acquired by Palm? I have a gut feeling that Nokia is not so interested in the open source side of things regardless of what they may say in press releases, and will try to close that aspect up as soon as it can. As I recall, Trolltech only made Qt open source very reluctantly and only after much pressure from linux open-source advocates. The Windows GPL version is still pretty restrictive. I now expect the current version of Qt to be the last GPL'd version, although a fork seems likely at this point which will probably be lead by the KDE team. Reverting back to closed source software will hurt Qt and indirectly Lazarus also :( I hope it's just a bad feeling Yes I agree but I find KDE 4 a very interesting development. Regards Boguslaw regards Wim _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
John Stoneham wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 2:05 AM, willem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trolltech gets acquired by Nokia. The key motivation of Nokia is CrossPlatform development. That also a kyey interest of Lazarus. So I think the Qt interface is becoming more important in the future. Regards Wim Well, it's not quite official yet. 90% of shareholders still have to approve the deal and only 66% have so far, and it has to get regulatory approval as well. But it looks like it's just a formality at this point, and they say it will be completed some time in the second quarter. As for the cross-platform motivation, this is probably true but not because of the desktop platforms. I believe Nokia is much more interested in Qtopia (the embedded version of Qt). Now, as to what this means for Qt's future, I don't know. Remember what happened to BeOS when it was acquired by Palm? I have a gut feeling that Nokia is not so interested in the open source side of things regardless of what they may say in press releases, and will try to close that aspect up as soon as it can. As I recall, Trolltech only made Qt open source very reluctantly and only after much pressure from linux open-source advocates. The Windows GPL version is still pretty You are quit rigth. But Trolltech made the switch to Open Source. And IBM made the switch to Open Source. IBM says 2008 is the year of Open Source. Maybe Nokia is switching too. restrictive. I now expect the current version of Qt to be the last GPL'd version, although a fork seems likely at this point which will probably be lead by the KDE team. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
On Jan 28, 2008 5:25 AM, Ales Katona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qt4 cannot be closed. Development can be stopped from the Trolltech/Nokia side, but the GPL v4 which was released will remain. Moreover, the foundation has rights to continue Qt development should Trolltech be bought. Right, this is what I meant by a fork (although that might not be the right word), and this is what I think will happen. I don't doubt that the KDE/Qt foundation that was formed some time ago will make sure that the current version of Qt continues to be developed so that KDE will live on. However, I doubt very seriously that Qt in its current GPL form will continue to be developed by Trolltech. I may be wrong, but I don't believe for a minute that Nokia is going to want to be developing software for their phones and proprietary platforms that has to be released under the GPL, and they will close that hole very quickly. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
John Stoneham wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 5:25 AM, Ales Katona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qt4 cannot be closed. Development can be stopped from the Trolltech/Nokia side, but the GPL v4 which was released will remain. Moreover, the foundation has rights to continue Qt development should Trolltech be bought. Yes that can happen, but Commercial firms are getting nervous about the growth of the Open Source Movement. Sun did acquire MySql. IBM developed Open Office further with their Lotus Symphony. So Open Source is a Winner :-D Right, this is what I meant by a fork (although that might not be the right word), and this is what I think will happen. I don't doubt that the KDE/Qt foundation that was formed some time ago will make sure that the current version of Qt continues to be developed so that KDE will live on. However, I doubt very seriously that Qt in its current GPL form will continue to be developed by Trolltech. I may be wrong, but I don't believe for a minute that Nokia is going to want to be developing software for their phones and proprietary platforms that has to be released under the GPL, and they will close that hole very quickly. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
What GPL v4? []s Cesar Romero Qt4 cannot be closed. Development can be stopped from the Trolltech/Nokia side, but the GPL v4 which was released will remain. Moreover, the foundation has rights to continue Qt development should Trolltech be bought. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
willem ha scritto: John Stoneham wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 5:25 AM, Ales Katona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qt4 cannot be closed. Development can be stopped from the Trolltech/Nokia side, but the GPL v4 which was released will remain. Moreover, the foundation has rights to continue Qt development should Trolltech be bought. Yes that can happen, but Commercial firms are getting nervous about the growth of the Open Source Movement. Sun did acquire MySql. IBM developed Open Office further with their Lotus Symphony. So Open Source is a Winner :-D I second your opinion. Just give a look to: http://opensource.nokia.com/ and to http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/index.html Not all manufacturers are brain damaged. Some can tell the difference between the tools they use (where Open Source provide a quality which can't be even dreamed by closed source), and their final product, which can be protected with specific patents. Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
Giuliano Colla ha scritto: willem ha scritto: John Stoneham wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 5:25 AM, Ales Katona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qt4 cannot be closed. Development can be stopped from the Trolltech/Nokia side, but the GPL v4 which was released will remain. Moreover, the foundation has rights to continue Qt development should Trolltech be bought. Yes that can happen, but Commercial firms are getting nervous about the growth of the Open Source Movement. Sun did acquire MySql. IBM developed Open Office further with their Lotus Symphony. So Open Source is a Winner :-D I second your opinion. Just give a look to: http://opensource.nokia.com/ and to http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/index.html Not all manufacturers are brain damaged. Some can tell the difference between the tools they use (where Open Source provide a quality which can't be even dreamed by closed source), and their final product, which can be protected with specific patents. I read something further in Open Source Nokia. It appears they've contributed to Gnome/Gtk+ development (such as Gnome's VFS extensions, GTK+ Webcore, etc.). It they share my opinion about GTK, it's no wonder that they turned to Qt, which also happens to have its headquarters located next door! Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
