Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:26:13 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What is the difference between these two components? TPageControl is a descendant of TCustomNoteBook and provides a few more utility functions. Which one would be more reliable in a production environment? The product will be released of Windows and Linux. AFAIK both are equally reliable. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
On 18/06/07, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What is the difference between these two components? Which one would be more reliable in a production environment? The product will be released of Windows and Linux. i'm using lots of pagecontrol/tabsheets in a project at the moment. they work very well. only complaint thus far is that i can't seem to select them reliably in the visual editor. i need to select them in the object inspector. Regards, - Graeme - henry _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
On 18/06/07, Henry Vermaak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm using lots of pagecontrol/tabsheets in a project at the moment. they work very well. only complaint thus far is that i can't seem to select them reliably in the visual editor. i need to select them in the object inspector. I noticed that as well for the TPageControl and the TTabControl. The TNotebook seems to be more reliable in that case. Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl On 6/18/07, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/06/07, Henry Vermaak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm using lots of pagecontrol/tabsheets in a project at the moment. they work very well. only complaint thus far is that i can't seem to select them reliably in the visual editor. i need to select them in the object inspector. I noticed that as well for the TPageControl and the TTabControl. The TNotebook seems to be more reliable in that case. Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. - Douglas Adams
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. yes. everything works o.k. if you use the object inspector to select the tabs, though. i haven't had time to look into this (i'm not brave enough, actually). Charl henry _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl You don't need to reopen the project, just reload the form. Save files, close the form in the Visual Designer (top left cross), then press F12 to load it again. Works for me. I'm using GTK1 btw. Has anybody reported these issues in Mantis yet? Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
here is one: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=8346 On 6/18/07, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl You don't need to reopen the project, just reload the form. Save files, close the form in the Visual Designer (top left cross), then press F12 to load it again. Works for me. I'm using GTK1 btw. Has anybody reported these issues in Mantis yet? Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. - Douglas Adams
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
Which one would be more reliable in a production environment? The product will be released of Windows and Linux. I use TPagecontrol at time, in Windows it works well in GTK it isnt visible after the second Form.Show so its useless in an productive Enviroment. Dont know about TNotebook. regards Christian _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
On 18/06/07, Christian Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use TPagecontrol at time, in Windows it works well in GTK it isnt visible after the second Form.Show so its useless in an productive Enviroment. Dont know about TNotebook. mine doesn't even work in windows. i wouldn't call it useless - just a bother to select components in the o.i. instead of visually. regards Christian henry _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
Graeme, You might want to check and see if TNotebook has this same problem: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=8056 What this means is that anchored controls on a TTabSheet don't resize when the sheet does following a resize of form at runtime. That is, the controls on the TTabSheet stay the same size, regardless of how big the TTabSheet gets (or how small). I would think this would be a showstopper for a lot of programs. Generally most programs don't restrict the main form to a set size, which is what would be required to use TTabSheet/TPageControl. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl You don't need to reopen the project, just reload the form. Save files, close the form in the Visual Designer (top left cross), then press F12 to load it again. Works for me. I'm using GTK1 btw. Has anybody reported these issues in Mantis yet? Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
Hello, Yes that would be showstopper, but I checked TPageControl/TTabSheet under GTK, with TButton, TEdit, TListview and TStringGrid, and the controls resize correctly, either with alClient or with alNone and anchors set. ??? Regards, George Hess, Philip J wrote: Graeme, You might want to check and see if TNotebook has this same problem: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=8056 What this means is that anchored controls on a TTabSheet don't resize when the sheet does following a resize of form at runtime. That is, the controls on the TTabSheet stay the same size, regardless of how big the TTabSheet gets (or how small). I would think this would be a showstopper for a lot of programs. Generally most programs don't restrict the main form to a set size, which is what would be required to use TTabSheet/TPageControl. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl You don't need to reopen the project, just reload the form. Save files, close the form in the Visual Designer (top left cross), then press F12 to load it again. Works for me. I'm using GTK1 btw. Has anybody reported these issues in Mantis yet? Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
George, Did you test with the sample app included with the Mantis bug report? On Windows, the TEdit on the form resizes okay when you resize the form horizontally, but the TEdit on the TTabSheet does not. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: George Lober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:09 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl Hello, Yes that would be showstopper, but I checked TPageControl/TTabSheet under GTK, with TButton, TEdit, TListview and TStringGrid, and the controls resize correctly, either with alClient or with alNone and anchors set. ??? Regards, George Hess, Philip J wrote: Graeme, You might want to check and see if TNotebook has this same problem: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=8056 What this means is that anchored controls on a TTabSheet don't resize when the sheet does following a resize of form at runtime. That is, the controls on the TTabSheet stay the same size, regardless of how big the TTabSheet gets (or how small). I would think this would be a showstopper for a lot of programs. Generally most programs don't restrict the main form to a set size, which is what would be required to use TTabSheet/TPageControl. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl You don't need to reopen the project, just reload the form. Save files, close the form in the Visual Designer (top left cross), then press F12 to load it again. Works for me. I'm using GTK1 btw. Has anybody reported these issues in Mantis yet? Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
Ok, never mind, I see now the bug is applicable to Win32 only. Although using other modes other than alNone, seems to work Ok. George George Lober wrote: Hello, Yes that would be showstopper, but I checked TPageControl/TTabSheet under GTK, with TButton, TEdit, TListview and TStringGrid, and the controls resize correctly, either with alClient or with alNone and anchors set. ??? Regards, George Hess, Philip J wrote: Graeme, You might want to check and see if TNotebook has this same problem: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=8056 What this means is that anchored controls on a TTabSheet don't resize when the sheet does following a resize of form at runtime. That is, the controls on the TTabSheet stay the same size, regardless of how big the TTabSheet gets (or how small). I would think this would be a showstopper for a lot of programs. Generally most programs don't restrict the main form to a set size, which is what would be required to use TTabSheet/TPageControl. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl You don't need to reopen the project, just reload the form. Save files, close the form in the Visual Designer (top left cross), then press F12 to load it again. Works for me. I'm using GTK1 btw. Has anybody reported these issues in Mantis yet? Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
I don't see that on Windows. Setting the TEdit's Align to alCustom has the same problem as clNone. The other settings expand the TEdit to take up the entire sheet, which isn't what we want. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: George Lober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:57 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl Ok, never mind, I see now the bug is applicable to Win32 only. Although using other modes other than alNone, seems to work Ok. George George Lober wrote: Hello, Yes that would be showstopper, but I checked TPageControl/TTabSheet under GTK, with TButton, TEdit, TListview and TStringGrid, and the controls resize correctly, either with alClient or with alNone and anchors set. ??? Regards, George Hess, Philip J wrote: Graeme, You might want to check and see if TNotebook has this same problem: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=8056 What this means is that anchored controls on a TTabSheet don't resize when the sheet does following a resize of form at runtime. That is, the controls on the TTabSheet stay the same size, regardless of how big the TTabSheet gets (or how small). I would think this would be a showstopper for a lot of programs. Generally most programs don't restrict the main form to a set size, which is what would be required to use TTabSheet/TPageControl. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl You don't need to reopen the project, just reload the form. Save files, close the form in the Visual Designer (top left cross), then press F12 to load it again. Works for me. I'm using GTK1 btw. Has anybody reported these issues in Mantis yet? Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
Ok, you got me on that one. I don't use alCustom, never needed to, so I didn't check for that. Also if for example you use alTop and you set Anchor akBottom to true, this will also not work. Again I don't use those combinations, so I didn't check. I usually use alNone with anchors, alClient, or alTop, alLeft, alRight, alBottom with a splitter or without setting the fourth anchor. A lot of the time I have found it useful to place things in TPanels (as well as TPanels inside a TPanels) in combination with the previously mentioned modes to position things around, sort of my way of getting things to position somewhat like in Java. So far I have pretty much gotten the effects I want doing it that way. For my way of doing things the only limitation would be the alNone with anchors set mode, which does limit what you can do with the look of an app. Regards, George Hess, Philip J wrote: I don't see that on Windows. Setting the TEdit's Align to alCustom has the same problem as clNone. The other settings expand the TEdit to take up the entire sheet, which isn't what we want. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: George Lober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:57 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl Ok, never mind, I see now the bug is applicable to Win32 only. Although using other modes other than alNone, seems to work Ok. George George Lober wrote: Hello, Yes that would be showstopper, but I checked TPageControl/TTabSheet under GTK, with TButton, TEdit, TListview and TStringGrid, and the controls resize correctly, either with alClient or with alNone and anchors set. ??? Regards, George Hess, Philip J wrote: Graeme, You might want to check and see if TNotebook has this same problem: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=8056 What this means is that anchored controls on a TTabSheet don't resize when the sheet does following a resize of form at runtime. That is, the controls on the TTabSheet stay the same size, regardless of how big the TTabSheet gets (or how small). I would think this would be a showstopper for a lot of programs. Generally most programs don't restrict the main form to a set size, which is what would be required to use TTabSheet/TPageControl. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl You don't need to reopen the project, just reload the form. Save files, close the form in the Visual Designer (top left cross), then press F12 to load it again. Works for me. I'm using GTK1 btw. Has anybody reported these issues in Mantis yet? Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl
I tested tonight and gtk has same problems as win32 with anchors. This is evidently an LCL problem, not a widgetset one. Clearly, if the TEdit on the form resizes, then the TEdit on the TTabSheet should too. That's the way Delphi works. -Original Message- From: George Lober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 6/18/2007 3:43 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl Ok, you got me on that one. I don't use alCustom, never needed to, so I didn't check for that. Also if for example you use alTop and you set Anchor akBottom to true, this will also not work. Again I don't use those combinations, so I didn't check. I usually use alNone with anchors, alClient, or alTop, alLeft, alRight, alBottom with a splitter or without setting the fourth anchor. A lot of the time I have found it useful to place things in TPanels (as well as TPanels inside a TPanels) in combination with the previously mentioned modes to position things around, sort of my way of getting things to position somewhat like in Java. So far I have pretty much gotten the effects I want doing it that way. For my way of doing things the only limitation would be the alNone with anchors set mode, which does limit what you can do with the look of an app. Regards, George Hess, Philip J wrote: I don't see that on Windows. Setting the TEdit's Align to alCustom has the same problem as clNone. The other settings expand the TEdit to take up the entire sheet, which isn't what we want. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: George Lober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:57 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl Ok, never mind, I see now the bug is applicable to Win32 only. Although using other modes other than alNone, seems to work Ok. George George Lober wrote: Hello, Yes that would be showstopper, but I checked TPageControl/TTabSheet under GTK, with TButton, TEdit, TListview and TStringGrid, and the controls resize correctly, either with alClient or with alNone and anchors set. ??? Regards, George Hess, Philip J wrote: Graeme, You might want to check and see if TNotebook has this same problem: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=8056 What this means is that anchored controls on a TTabSheet don't resize when the sheet does following a resize of form at runtime. That is, the controls on the TTabSheet stay the same size, regardless of how big the TTabSheet gets (or how small). I would think this would be a showstopper for a lot of programs. Generally most programs don't restrict the main form to a set size, which is what would be required to use TTabSheet/TPageControl. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TNoteBook vs TPageControl On 18/06/07, Charl van Jaarsveldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, in both, if you are designing a tab, then flip over to another tab, any new components dropped onto the tab you are now on will not be displayed at design time, only the resize blocks will be there to tell you where it is. This happens in Gtk2, not sure about Gtk1. Workaround is to save the project and then reopen it, then you can go on designing the other tab. Charl You don't need to reopen the project, just reload the form. Save files, close the form in the Visual Designer (top left cross), then press F12 to load it again. Works for me. I'm using GTK1 btw. Has anybody reported these issues in Mantis yet? Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives