Re: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-09 Thread Al Boldi
Luis R. Hilario B. wrote:
 Hello,

 CUPERTINO, Calif. — August 8, 2006 — Today, the Developer Tools Group
 of Borland Software Corporation (NASDAQ: BORL) announced plans to
 release single language versions of Borland Developer Studio, the
 company's development environment for Microsoft(r) Windows(r) and .NET
 applications. Bringing back the popular Turbo™ moniker, the new
 Borland Turbo products offer low-cost, language-specific rapid
 application development capabilities for students, hobbyist
 developers, occupational developers as well as individual
 professionals.

 http://www.turboexplorer.com/
 What do you think?
 they're back to do it again?

Nothing beats OpenSource!

Thanks for the info though!

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Al

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RE: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-09 Thread Sergio Samayoa
 Delphi going to OpenSource?

NO.
AFAIK they will offer an entry level version like MS's Express editions.

Regards.

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Re: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-09 Thread m2

Lord_ZealoN a écrit :

Delphi going to OpenSource?


No. Al Boldi was saying that nothing can beat open source, i.e.,
Borland may do what they want, they won't beat FPC+Lazarus.

Moreover, I find it strange that after having announced they wanted
to sell all that concerns programming tools, they now try to make
some money with. They found no buyer? :-)

In any case, why paying for a Visual Pascal that only runs on
Windows, whereas FPC+Lazarus are free and run on 2,000,000 OS's?

mm

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Re: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-09 Thread Arí Ricardo Ody

A good question, at least for me:

How a company like Borland will survive if it 
turns its softwares Open Source? May someone say some words about this?


Borland survive sailing licenses paid. Doesn't it?

[ ]

Ricardo


At 11:24 9/8/2006, you wrote:

Lord_ZealoN a écrit :

Delphi going to OpenSource?


No. Al Boldi was saying that nothing can beat open source, i.e.,
Borland may do what they want, they won't beat FPC+Lazarus.

Moreover, I find it strange that after having announced they wanted
to sell all that concerns programming tools, they now try to make
some money with. They found no buyer? :-)

In any case, why paying for a Visual Pascal that only runs on
Windows, whereas FPC+Lazarus are free and run on 2,000,000 OS's?

mm

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Re: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-09 Thread Zlatko Matić

What about Kylix? Would they enable Turbo Kylix as well?

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Lord_ZealoN a écrit :

Delphi going to OpenSource?


No. Al Boldi was saying that nothing can beat open source, i.e.,
Borland may do what they want, they won't beat FPC+Lazarus.

Moreover, I find it strange that after having announced they wanted
to sell all that concerns programming tools, they now try to make
some money with. They found no buyer? :-)

In any case, why paying for a Visual Pascal that only runs on
Windows, whereas FPC+Lazarus are free and run on 2,000,000 OS's?

mm

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Re: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-09 Thread johnf
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 07:38, Arí Ricardo Ody wrote:
 A good question, at least for me:

 How a company like Borland will survive if it
 turns its softwares Open Source? May someone say some words about this?

 Borland survive sailing licenses paid. Doesn't it?

 [ ]

 Ricardo
I think they could run the company like MySQL does.  Sort of a dual license - 
use it for business then pay for the license.  I'm not sure how big MySQL is 
(the company) but I think in general they are doing very well.  Also Borlands 
recent move to services fits the same mold that MySQL is using.  The business 
that uses the product pays for the product.  Developers pay nothing.  Small 
mom and pop shops will most likely rip off the product but big business will 
pay for protection against suit  and to get the support. 

John

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Re: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-09 Thread Alexsander Rosa

Kylix is dead.

2006/8/9, Zlatko Matić [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

What about Kylix? Would they enable Turbo Kylix as well?

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Lord_ZealoN a écrit :
 Delphi going to OpenSource?

No. Al Boldi was saying that nothing can beat open source, i.e.,
Borland may do what they want, they won't beat FPC+Lazarus.

Moreover, I find it strange that after having announced they wanted
to sell all that concerns programming tools, they now try to make
some money with. They found no buyer? :-)

In any case, why paying for a Visual Pascal that only runs on
Windows, whereas FPC+Lazarus are free and run on 2,000,000 OS's?

mm

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Re: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-09 Thread Mark Wrenn
Am I the only one who thinks this is a bit fishy?  Something doesn't 
seem right about this.  Why isn't this mentioned in a press release on 
the Borland site?  Did I miss it?  Why doesn't David I's blog mention 
it? (http://blogs.borland.com/davidi/).  Even the turboexplorer web site 
doesn't quite have the right feel to it.  Maybe I'm just a Doubting 
Thomas.


Mark

Luis R. Hilario B. wrote:


Hello,

CUPERTINO, Calif. — August 8, 2006 — Today, the Developer Tools Group
of Borland Software Corporation (NASDAQ: BORL) announced plans to
release single language versions of Borland Developer Studio, the
company's development environment for Microsoft(r) Windows(r) and .NET
applications. Bringing back the popular Turbo™ moniker, the new
Borland Turbo products offer low-cost, language-specific rapid
application development capabilities for students, hobbyist
developers, occupational developers as well as individual
professionals.

http://www.turboexplorer.com/
What do you think?
they're back to do it again?




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RE: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-09 Thread John Meyer
You missed it:
Did a search and it's there.


http://www.borland.com/us/company/news/press_releases/2006/08_07_06_borlands
_developer_tools_group_plans_to_rev_up_classic_turbo.html

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Subject: Re: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

Am I the only one who thinks this is a bit fishy?  Something doesn't seem
right about this.  Why isn't this mentioned in a press release on the
Borland site?  Did I miss it?  Why doesn't David I's blog mention it?
(http://blogs.borland.com/davidi/).  Even the turboexplorer web site doesn't
quite have the right feel to it.  Maybe I'm just a Doubting Thomas.

Mark

Luis R. Hilario B. wrote:

 Hello,

 CUPERTINO, Calif. - August 8, 2006 - Today, the Developer Tools Group
 of Borland Software Corporation (NASDAQ: BORL) announced plans to
 release single language versions of Borland Developer Studio, the
 company's development environment for Microsoft(r) Windows(r) and .NET
 applications. Bringing back the popular TurboT moniker, the new
 Borland Turbo products offer low-cost, language-specific rapid
 application development capabilities for students, hobbyist
 developers, occupational developers as well as individual
 professionals.

 http://www.turboexplorer.com/
 What do you think?
 they're back to do it again?



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Re: [lazarus] Turbo explorer

2006-08-08 Thread wfifi
I think it's only like VS express version.2006/8/9, Luis R. Hilario B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello,CUPERTINO, Calif. — August 8, 2006 — Today, the Developer Tools Groupof Borland Software Corporation (NASDAQ: BORL) announced plans torelease single language versions of Borland Developer Studio, the
company's development environment for Microsoft(r) Windows(r) and .NETapplications. Bringing back the popular Turbo™ moniker, the newBorland Turbo products offer low-cost, language-specific rapidapplication development capabilities for students, hobbyist
developers, occupational developers as well as individualprofessionals.http://www.turboexplorer.com/What do you think?they're back to do it again?
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