RE: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X
Dominique, Normally with a Carbon app you won't be linking to X11 yet that's what your app is doing. Is SDL an X11-based framework? The -L switch doesn't look right for a framework. I think -L is normally used with standalone libraries, not frameworks. What about omitting that and adding another -k-framework in front of -ksdl? Did you run with the -Cn command line switch to see what the linker is actually getting? Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:12 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X Hi Philip, I'm still having this framework issue. When I run the otool -L myapp command I get /System/Library/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon ( Compatibility version 2.0.0, current version 128.0.0) /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib ( compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.2.3) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib ( compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 88.3.9) /usr/lib/libX11.6.dylib ( compatibility version 6.2.0, current version 6.2.0) Does that look right? In the lazarus compiler options under the linking tab I have -L/Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework -framework carbon sdl and in the Show Options screen this translates to... -k-L/Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework -k-framework -kcarbon -ksdl Which I think all looks fine, but I still get the following error... /usr/bin/ld: can't open: sdl ( No such file or directory, errno = 2) Error:Error while linking This is definitely the location of the framework because I can create an XCode FreePascal project and that correctly links to SDL.framework in that directory and I can see a 3D OpenGL spinning cube when it runs. Thanks, Dominique. Hess, Philip J wrote: Dominique, I don't believe that's the Carbon framework that your apps are using. Use otool -L against any app compiled against the Carbon framework to see the framework's location. Try compiling with the -Cn switch, then look at the link.res text file generated. This contains the actual switches that are being passed to the linker. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:29 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X Hi Philip, I've just been re-reading your message. So when using frameworks, there is no need to specify a library name, because the linker resolves this automagically? just for clarification the SDL.framework is located @ /Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework. While I notice that Carbon.framework is located @ /Developers/SDKs/MacOS10.4u.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framewo rk I even tried adding /Library/Frameworks/ to -Fl in the Libraries field on the Path tab in case that would help, but that did not work either. I still get the Can't open : sdl ( No such file or directory, errorno = 2). So the compiler recognises that I'm passing a framework via the command line, but it just can't find it. Is there something else I need to do to use 3rd Party frameworks? Dominique. Hess, Philip J wrote: Dominique, Did you put the sdl.framework bundle (folder) somewhere that the linker can find it? Typically this would be in the Library/Frameworks folder. If the linker can find the framework it should be able to find any externally declared functions in your program. You shouldn't need any link directives in your source either. Note how it's done in FPCMacOSAll.pas: function sqrt(x: double_t): double_t; external name '_sqrt'; When you include -framework carbon the linker is able to find the _sqrt function in the Carbon framework's library. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: RE: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazaru project Hi Philip, Thanks for pointing this out. On the Mac that option was being hidden due to the dialog size, so I could not see the area where I needed to put the framework. This is now entered, but I now get a Unable to find sdl error message when it tris to link to the framework. Is there something else I need to do? Also, if I have sdl.pas in the project file, it complains that it cant link to -lSDL-1.2.0 . If it finds the framework, does it still need to link to it via -l? Thanks, Dominique. Quoting Hess, Philip J [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dominique, On the Compiler Options tab, check the Pass Options To The Linker box and enter this in text box: -framework sdl This will be passed to FPC as -k'-framework' -k'sdl', which then passes the switches on to the linker. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:38 AM
Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X
Another hint: You can group the -k statements with quotes: -k-framework carbon -framework sdl -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: Another hint: You can group the -k statements with quotes: -k-framework carbon -framework sdl Damn how stupid do I feel. I was under the impression that the FPC compiler would take the -k-framework directive and apply to all option that appeared after it until it found a non -k directive so as I mentioned earlier the command like looked like this.. -k-framework -kcarbon -ksdl when it should have been -k-framework -kcarbon -k-framework -ksdl That now compiles correctly. Thank Felipe and thank you Philip for your patience throughout this thread. Hopefully one last question when it come to passing parameters to the compiler from lazarus. How do I pass the -XM parameter via the Lazarus IDE, as I need to redefine the main function it currently uses? I could not find a tab that allowed me to set this up. Thanks, Dominique. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X
Dominique, I think you can enter -XM under Custom options on the Compiler Options' Other tab. Glad to hear that you got it to compile. Maybe you could write up something in the wiki about how to use SDL with Lazarus. Perhaps a small test app to help get folks started. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:53 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: Another hint: You can group the -k statements with quotes: -k-framework carbon -framework sdl Damn how stupid do I feel. I was under the impression that the FPC compiler would take the -k-framework directive and apply to all option that appeared after it until it found a non -k directive so as I mentioned earlier the command like looked like this.. -k-framework -kcarbon -ksdl when it should have been -k-framework -kcarbon -k-framework -ksdl That now compiles correctly. Thank Felipe and thank you Philip for your patience throughout this thread. Hopefully one last question when it come to passing parameters to the compiler from lazarus. How do I pass the -XM parameter via the Lazarus IDE, as I need to redefine the main function it currently uses? I could not find a tab that allowed me to set this up. Thanks, Dominique. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X
Hi Philip, Thanks again, that does the trick. As soon as I finish this project sometime in Jan/Feb I'll be sure to add stuff to the Wiki. Dominique. Hess, Philip J wrote: Dominique, I think you can enter -XM under Custom options on the Compiler Options' Other tab. Glad to hear that you got it to compile. Maybe you could write up something in the wiki about how to use SDL with Lazarus. Perhaps a small test app to help get folks started. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:53 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: Another hint: You can group the -k statements with quotes: -k-framework carbon -framework sdl Damn how stupid do I feel. I was under the impression that the FPC compiler would take the -k-framework directive and apply to all option that appeared after it until it found a non -k directive so as I mentioned earlier the command like looked like this.. -k-framework -kcarbon -ksdl when it should have been -k-framework -kcarbon -k-framework -ksdl That now compiles correctly. Thank Felipe and thank you Philip for your patience throughout this thread. Hopefully one last question when it come to passing parameters to the compiler from lazarus. How do I pass the -XM parameter via the Lazarus IDE, as I need to redefine the main function it currently uses? I could not find a tab that allowed me to set this up. Thanks, Dominique. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X
Hi Philip, I'm still having this framework issue. When I run the otool -L myapp command I get /System/Library/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon ( Compatibility version 2.0.0, current version 128.0.0) /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib ( compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.2.3) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib ( compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 88.3.9) /usr/lib/libX11.6.dylib ( compatibility version 6.2.0, current version 6.2.0) Does that look right? In the lazarus compiler options under the linking tab I have -L/Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework -framework carbon sdl and in the Show Options screen this translates to... -k-L/Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework -k-framework -kcarbon -ksdl Which I think all looks fine, but I still get the following error... /usr/bin/ld: can't open: sdl ( No such file or directory, errno = 2) Error:Error while linking This is definitely the location of the framework because I can create an XCode FreePascal project and that correctly links to SDL.framework in that directory and I can see a 3D OpenGL spinning cube when it runs. Thanks, Dominique. Hess, Philip J wrote: Dominique, I don't believe that's the Carbon framework that your apps are using. Use otool -L against any app compiled against the Carbon framework to see the framework's location. Try compiling with the -Cn switch, then look at the link.res text file generated. This contains the actual switches that are being passed to the linker. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:29 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X Hi Philip, I've just been re-reading your message. So when using frameworks, there is no need to specify a library name, because the linker resolves this automagically? just for clarification the SDL.framework is located @ /Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework. While I notice that Carbon.framework is located @ /Developers/SDKs/MacOS10.4u.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framewo rk I even tried adding /Library/Frameworks/ to -Fl in the Libraries field on the Path tab in case that would help, but that did not work either. I still get the Can't open : sdl ( No such file or directory, errorno = 2). So the compiler recognises that I'm passing a framework via the command line, but it just can't find it. Is there something else I need to do to use 3rd Party frameworks? Dominique. Hess, Philip J wrote: Dominique, Did you put the sdl.framework bundle (folder) somewhere that the linker can find it? Typically this would be in the Library/Frameworks folder. If the linker can find the framework it should be able to find any externally declared functions in your program. You shouldn't need any link directives in your source either. Note how it's done in FPCMacOSAll.pas: function sqrt(x: double_t): double_t; external name '_sqrt'; When you include -framework carbon the linker is able to find the _sqrt function in the Carbon framework's library. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: RE: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazaru project Hi Philip, Thanks for pointing this out. On the Mac that option was being hidden due to the dialog size, so I could not see the area where I needed to put the framework. This is now entered, but I now get a Unable to find sdl error message when it tris to link to the framework. Is there something else I need to do? Also, if I have sdl.pas in the project file, it complains that it cant link to -lSDL-1.2.0 . If it finds the framework, does it still need to link to it via -l? Thanks, Dominique. Quoting Hess, Philip J [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dominique, On the Compiler Options tab, check the Pass Options To The Linker box and enter this in text box: -framework sdl This will be passed to FPC as -k'-framework' -k'sdl', which then passes the switches on to the linker. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:38 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazaru project Hi all, What is the correct way to use an *.framework within a Lazarus project? I can get SDL.framework working with XCode, but don't know where put the -kSDL line to get it to pull in the framework. Thanks, Dominique. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X
Hi Philip, I've just been re-reading your message. So when using frameworks, there is no need to specify a library name, because the linker resolves this automagically? just for clarification the SDL.framework is located @ /Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework. While I notice that Carbon.framework is located @ /Developers/SDKs/MacOS10.4u.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework I even tried adding /Library/Frameworks/ to -Fl in the Libraries field on the Path tab in case that would help, but that did not work either. I still get the Can't open : sdl ( No such file or directory, errorno = 2). So the compiler recognises that I'm passing a framework via the command line, but it just can't find it. Is there something else I need to do to use 3rd Party frameworks? Dominique. Hess, Philip J wrote: Dominique, Did you put the sdl.framework bundle (folder) somewhere that the linker can find it? Typically this would be in the Library/Frameworks folder. If the linker can find the framework it should be able to find any externally declared functions in your program. You shouldn't need any link directives in your source either. Note how it's done in FPCMacOSAll.pas: function sqrt(x: double_t): double_t; external name '_sqrt'; When you include -framework carbon the linker is able to find the _sqrt function in the Carbon framework's library. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: RE: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazaru project Hi Philip, Thanks for pointing this out. On the Mac that option was being hidden due to the dialog size, so I could not see the area where I needed to put the framework. This is now entered, but I now get a Unable to find sdl error message when it tris to link to the framework. Is there something else I need to do? Also, if I have sdl.pas in the project file, it complains that it cant link to -lSDL-1.2.0 . If it finds the framework, does it still need to link to it via -l? Thanks, Dominique. Quoting Hess, Philip J [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dominique, On the Compiler Options tab, check the Pass Options To The Linker box and enter this in text box: -framework sdl This will be passed to FPC as -k'-framework' -k'sdl', which then passes the switches on to the linker. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:38 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazaru project Hi all, What is the correct way to use an *.framework within a Lazarus project? I can get SDL.framework working with XCode, but don't know where put the -kSDL line to get it to pull in the framework. Thanks, Dominique. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X
Dominique, I don't believe that's the Carbon framework that your apps are using. Use otool -L against any app compiled against the Carbon framework to see the framework's location. Try compiling with the -Cn switch, then look at the link.res text file generated. This contains the actual switches that are being passed to the linker. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:29 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazarus project on Mac OS X Hi Philip, I've just been re-reading your message. So when using frameworks, there is no need to specify a library name, because the linker resolves this automagically? just for clarification the SDL.framework is located @ /Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework. While I notice that Carbon.framework is located @ /Developers/SDKs/MacOS10.4u.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framewo rk I even tried adding /Library/Frameworks/ to -Fl in the Libraries field on the Path tab in case that would help, but that did not work either. I still get the Can't open : sdl ( No such file or directory, errorno = 2). So the compiler recognises that I'm passing a framework via the command line, but it just can't find it. Is there something else I need to do to use 3rd Party frameworks? Dominique. Hess, Philip J wrote: Dominique, Did you put the sdl.framework bundle (folder) somewhere that the linker can find it? Typically this would be in the Library/Frameworks folder. If the linker can find the framework it should be able to find any externally declared functions in your program. You shouldn't need any link directives in your source either. Note how it's done in FPCMacOSAll.pas: function sqrt(x: double_t): double_t; external name '_sqrt'; When you include -framework carbon the linker is able to find the _sqrt function in the Carbon framework's library. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:53 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: RE: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazaru project Hi Philip, Thanks for pointing this out. On the Mac that option was being hidden due to the dialog size, so I could not see the area where I needed to put the framework. This is now entered, but I now get a Unable to find sdl error message when it tris to link to the framework. Is there something else I need to do? Also, if I have sdl.pas in the project file, it complains that it cant link to -lSDL-1.2.0 . If it finds the framework, does it still need to link to it via -l? Thanks, Dominique. Quoting Hess, Philip J [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dominique, On the Compiler Options tab, check the Pass Options To The Linker box and enter this in text box: -framework sdl This will be passed to FPC as -k'-framework' -k'sdl', which then passes the switches on to the linker. Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Dominique Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:38 AM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: [lazarus] Using SDL.framework within Lazaru project Hi all, What is the correct way to use an *.framework within a Lazarus project? I can get SDL.framework working with XCode, but don't know where put the -kSDL line to get it to pull in the framework. Thanks, Dominique. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
