Re: [LEAPSECS] podcast from Orolia

2022-05-06 Thread John Sauter via LEAPSECS
On Thu, 2022-05-05 at 20:05 +0100, Tony Finch wrote:
> John Sauter via LEAPSECS  wrote:
> > 
> > One of the links on that page is to the draft of the resolutions
> > for
> > the 27th CGPM meeting, in November 2022. Resolution D notes that
> > "recent observations on the rotation rate of the Earth indicate the
> > possible need for the first negative leap second whose insertion
> > has
> > never been foreseen or tested". However, they are calling for an
> > increase in the maximum value of UT1-UTC by 2035, which would be
> > too
> > late to avoid the negative leap second, if current predictions hold
> > up.
> 
> I have just got today's Bulletin A. The LoD term in the equation for
> more
> distant estimates of UT1-UTC is now 24h - 280 µs, down from -270 µs
> last
> week. It has been dropping rapidly again since March, after
> increasing
> slowly for half a year..
> 
> My guesstimate for the negative leap second is now end of 2027, and
> likely
> to get closer if things continue like this!
> 

To illustrate Tony's point, here is a plot of the slope of the IERS's
estimates of UT2-UTC since 2005.  Values greater than zero predict a
negative leap second.  UT2 is UT1 with seasonal fluctuations removed.
John Sauter (john_sau...@systemeyescomputerstore.com)

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Re: [LEAPSECS] podcast from Orolia

2022-05-05 Thread Tony Finch
John Sauter via LEAPSECS  wrote:
>
> One of the links on that page is to the draft of the resolutions for
> the 27th CGPM meeting, in November 2022. Resolution D notes that
> "recent observations on the rotation rate of the Earth indicate the
> possible need for the first negative leap second whose insertion has
> never been foreseen or tested". However, they are calling for an
> increase in the maximum value of UT1-UTC by 2035, which would be too
> late to avoid the negative leap second, if current predictions hold up.

I have just got today's Bulletin A. The LoD term in the equation for more
distant estimates of UT1-UTC is now 24h - 280 µs, down from -270 µs last
week. It has been dropping rapidly again since March, after increasing
slowly for half a year..

My guesstimate for the negative leap second is now end of 2027, and likely
to get closer if things continue like this!

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Re: [LEAPSECS] podcast from Orolia

2022-05-04 Thread John Sauter via LEAPSECS
On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 14:20 -0700, Steve Allen wrote:
> Orolia has a 17 minute podcast about leap seconds
> 
> https://www.orolia.com/place-and-time-episode-3-the-leap-second-on-trial/
> 

One of the links on that page is to the draft of the resolutions for
the 27th CGPM meeting, in November 2022. Resolution D notes that
"recent observations on the rotation rate of the Earth indicate the
possible need for the first negative leap second whose insertion has
never been foreseen or tested". However, they are calling for an
increase in the maximum value of UT1-UTC by 2035, which would be too
late to avoid the negative leap second, if current predictions hold up.

Also, of course, it isn't true that negative leap seconds have never
been foreseen or tested. ITU-R TF.460-6 forsees negative leap seconds,
and Microsoft made testing applications for the ability to handle leap
seconds easier when they added support for leap seconds to Windows 10.

Notice that they "propose a new maximum value for the difference (UT1-
UTC) that will ensure the continuity of UTC for at least a century". To
avoid leap seconds for a century would mean increasing the maximum
allowed value of abs(UT1-UTC) to around 60 seconds, considering that
there have been 27 leap seconds in the last half century. I expect that
means that the leap second correction, when it comes, will be 60
seconds instead of 1. After a century of no leap seconds, having a leap
minute will cause a lot of anguish. Thus, this proposal has the effect
of wishing a big problem onto our descendents so we don't have a small
problem today.
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Re: [LEAPSECS] podcast from Orolia

2022-05-03 Thread Warner Losh
"What is a leap second and why don't we want it?"  I wonder where this is
going and if I'll like it more than my leap second rants.

Warner

On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 3:20 PM Steve Allen  wrote:

> Orolia has a 17 minute podcast about leap seconds
>
> https://www.orolia.com/place-and-time-episode-3-the-leap-second-on-trial/
>
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