Re: [LegacyUG] Explanation, please?

2013-09-06 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/09/06 03:11, singhals wrote:
 To do some arcane sorting and family-building, a couple
 months ago I exported part of a large database from PAF5 to
 Legacy (free v).  The GED contained without my noticing it
 in time to fix it before import data in the PAF fields for
 description of individual and the AFN, as well as a Custom ID.

 That is now causing me grief, as the description and the AFN
 are in many of the reports Legacy creates ... and I can't
 find them to delete the content IN Legacy. The information
 is extraneous for my purpose here.  So, I took the database
 over to the FHC to see if I could delete them there using
 the paid v.  Still couldn't see them to delete.

 So -- how do I get rid of these without having to edit the
 output manually?

In general, when Legacy doesn't understand the piece of data that it's
importing, it tucks it away in one of the Notes fields.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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[LegacyUG] Reports - Event Formatting

2013-09-06 Thread Kathy Thompson
Is there any way of re-organising the order in which the List Style
formatting of the Events displays in the reports?

At the moment it displays in columns
Event Name - Description - Date - Location

I'd like to be able to move Description after Location so that I have
Event Name - Date - Location - Description

Is this possible? If so, where am I missing the (probably obvious) settings
for this to happen?

Thanks



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RE: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

2013-09-06 Thread Michele Lewis
I read the links that were posted but I am still a little confused.  Can I, or 
can I not move this folder to the main Legacy Folder?   I don’t want it in My 
Documents.  I have My Documents completely structured and organized and I like 
it that way.





Michele







From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?



Good question Michele.  I think I saw it raised a few days ago from someone 
else.  I have always installed Legacy in the default C:\Legacy folder and yet I 
now have those folders as you described.  They seem to have been created 
8/15/2013 which probably corresponds to the public release 7.5.0.269 so the 
prior public release 7.5.0.219 did not use those folders.  I agree with you 
that all these new structures should be under the C:\Legacy folder unless the 
user has chosen to install elsewhere.  I'll review some of the prior emails on 
this and see if a satisfactory answer was ever given.

Ron Taylor



  _

From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com 
mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?


Michele,

I have a question, the answer which should tell me what happened. Where is
Legacy installed on your computer? Start Legacy and click on Help  General
Information and look at the Legacy Path field. What does it say?

Jim
Legacy Technical Support

 Original Message 
 From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:04 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

 I just found a file in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree.  The
sub
 folder is Legacy FS and the sub folders to that are data, PDFs, Temple
 Cards. There are also files called legacyfs, LegacyNFS, legsnews,
store8.fsd
 and WinSettings.

 Why is the file folder in My Documents?  I thought everything went in
the
 Legacy Folder.

 Michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

2013-09-06 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/09/06 01:50, Ron Taylor wrote:

   One of the basic principles that has been used for years is to have 
 everything
 in the C:\Legacy folder which is in the same place for all versions of Windows
 whereas the My Documents folder location has changed with the newer versions 
 of
 Windows.

This is for good-old historical reasons. And, possibly, the developers thought
it was to much work to adjust their installation/product to fit in with the
restrictions found in Vista and later versions. Comes from lumping data files
together with program files.

 From Vista onwards, program code was supposed to be installed in a protected
area (\Program Files\Millennia\Legacy) and data was supposed to have been split
between application data (\Program Data\Millennia\Legacy) and user data (\My
Documents\Millennia\Legacy). Too much work!

--
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Mike Fry
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RE: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

2013-09-06 Thread Mark Lang
That's all happening in v8.

Kind Regards,
Mark


-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 9:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

On 2013/09/06 01:50, Ron Taylor wrote:

   One of the basic principles that has been used for years is to have
 everything in the C:\Legacy folder which is in the same place for all
 versions of Windows whereas the My Documents folder location has
 changed with the newer versions of Windows.

This is for good-old historical reasons. And, possibly, the developers thought 
it was to much work to adjust their installation/product to fit in with the 
restrictions found in Vista and later versions. Comes from lumping data files 
together with program files.

 From Vista onwards, program code was supposed to be installed in a protected 
area (\Program Files\Millennia\Legacy) and data was supposed to have been split 
between application data (\Program Data\Millennia\Legacy) and user data (\My 
Documents\Millennia\Legacy). Too much work!

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

2013-09-06 Thread Paul Gray
Michelle,

I don't believe it's possible to move that folder to the location of your 
choice. I tried, moving it to my separate data partition, and the next time I 
started Legacy it re-created the files in My Documents

Paul


Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-09-06, at 7:48, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com wrote:

 I read the links that were posted but I am still a little confused.  Can I, 
 or can I not move this folder to the main Legacy Folder?   I don’t want it in 
 My Documents.  I have My Documents completely structured and organized and I 
 like it that way.


 Michele



 From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:05 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

 Good question Michele.  I think I saw it raised a few days ago from someone 
 else.  I have always installed Legacy in the default C:\Legacy folder and yet 
 I now have those folders as you described.  They seem to have been created 
 8/15/2013 which probably corresponds to the public release 7.5.0.269 so the 
 prior public release 7.5.0.219 did not use those folders.  I agree with you 
 that all these new structures should be under the C:\Legacy folder unless the 
 user has chosen to install elsewhere.  I'll review some of the prior emails 
 on this and see if a satisfactory answer was ever given.
 Ron Taylor

 From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 4:35 PM
 Subject: re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

 Michele,

 I have a question, the answer which should tell me what happened. Where is
 Legacy installed on your computer? Start Legacy and click on Help  General
 Information and look at the Legacy Path field. What does it say?

 Jim
 Legacy Technical Support

  Original Message 
  From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:04 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?
 
  I just found a file in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree.  The
 sub
  folder is Legacy FS and the sub folders to that are data, PDFs, Temple
  Cards. There are also files called legacyfs, LegacyNFS, legsnews,
 store8.fsd
  and WinSettings.
 
  Why is the file folder in My Documents?  I thought everything went in
 the
  Legacy Folder.
 
  Michele



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RE: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

2013-09-06 Thread Michele Lewis
That is what I was afraid of.



Michele





From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?



Michelle,



I don't believe it's possible to move that folder to the location of your 
choice. I tried, moving it to my separate data partition, and the next time I 
started Legacy it re-created the files in My Documents

Paul


Sent from my iPhone


On 2013-09-06, at 7:48, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com 
mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com  wrote:

I read the links that were posted but I am still a little confused.  Can I, or 
can I not move this folder to the main Legacy Folder?   I don’t want it in My 
Documents.  I have My Documents completely structured and organized and I like 
it that way.





Michele







From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?



Good question Michele.  I think I saw it raised a few days ago from someone 
else.  I have always installed Legacy in the default C:\Legacy folder and yet I 
now have those folders as you described.  They seem to have been created 
8/15/2013 which probably corresponds to the public release 7.5.0.269 so the 
prior public release 7.5.0.219 did not use those folders.  I agree with you 
that all these new structures should be under the C:\Legacy folder unless the 
user has chosen to install elsewhere.  I'll review some of the prior emails on 
this and see if a satisfactory answer was ever given.

Ron Taylor




  _


From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com 
mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: re: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?


Michele,

I have a question, the answer which should tell me what happened. Where is
Legacy installed on your computer? Start Legacy and click on Help  General
Information and look at the Legacy Path field. What does it say?

Jim
Legacy Technical Support

 Original Message 
 From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:04 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] What is the file for?

 I just found a file in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree.  The
sub
 folder is Legacy FS and the sub folders to that are data, PDFs, Temple
 Cards. There are also files called legacyfs, LegacyNFS, legsnews,
store8.fsd
 and WinSettings.

 Why is the file folder in My Documents?  I thought everything went in
the
 Legacy Folder.

 Michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Reports - Event Formatting

2013-09-06 Thread Sherry/Support
There's no way to change the order which the information for an event
shows in the report.

In a report, events are listed in the order they show on the
individual's Events/Facts list on the Individual Information window.
You can change sort by date or name under the Options button next to
that list.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there any way of re-organising the order in which the List Style
 formatting of the Events displays in the reports?

 At the moment it displays in columns
 Event Name - Description - Date - Location

 I'd like to be able to move Description after Location so that I have
 Event Name - Date - Location - Description

 Is this possible? If so, where am I missing the (probably obvious) settings
 for this to happen?

 Thanks




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Re: [LegacyUG] Reports - Event Formatting

2013-09-06 Thread Bruce Jones
If you use the List Style formatting, you can't change the order, per
Sherry.
I have done something similar to what you are asking for using the Sentence
Style formatting.
It doesn't put things in columns, but I have fiddled with the sentence
definitions to add spaces to approximate a column for the event name and
have the date lined up with the location and description following in the
same column..


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Sherry/Support
she...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote:

 There's no way to change the order which the information for an event
 shows in the report.

 In a report, events are listed in the order they show on the
 individual's Events/Facts list on the Individual Information window.
 You can change sort by date or name under the Options button next to
 that list.



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Is there any way of re-organising the order in which the List Style
  formatting of the Events displays in the reports?
 
  At the moment it displays in columns
  Event Name - Description - Date - Location
 
  I'd like to be able to move Description after Location so that I have
  Event Name - Date - Location - Description
 
  Is this possible? If so, where am I missing the (probably obvious)
 settings
  for this to happen?
 
  Thanks
 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Intellimerge

2013-09-06 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Jay,

The Intellishare number is not encrypted, nor is it derived from the
modified date. It is a 32 digit hexadecimal number produced by a random
number generator when a new Individual record is created.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree
1familytree@gmail.comwrote:

 Ron,

 Will let you know if I hear back.

 My understanding is that the Intellishare ID number is basically the
 modified Date/Time number turned into something like a encrypted Key

 So there really wouldnt be any need for the added or modified date as the
 only real comparison you can make with intellishare is if the numbers are
 different.

 Jay





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Re: [LegacyUG] Explanation, please?

2013-09-06 Thread singhals
The GED was inserted into a brand-new database.  ONLY the
people from the GED and those added since are in there.

I followed Mike's hint about various notes, and then poked
around in the HELP files, and am still coming up blank on
where Legacy has put these.

Boyd's suggestion to re-export and be more careful in what I
export is mostly likely to be the answer, but I can, maybe,
GED out of Legacy and delete this stuff from there.  Or at
the VERY least find out where Legacy has it hidden. (g)

Cheryl

Ron Taylor wrote:
 Did the data you wish to keep also have Custom ID numbers? I
 assume you mean UserID numbers. If only the imported data
 had those UserID numbers, you could select for UserID not
 equal blank and then delete them. Same logic for the
 description of individual you mentioned. Unless you have
 something that uniquely identifies the data you want to
 delete, it may be hard. Perhaps you added all the imported
 records with a RIN number higher than the records already in
 your file.
 Ron Taylor

 
 *From:* singhals singh...@erols.com
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 5, 2013 7:11 PM
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Explanation, please?

 To do some arcane sorting and family-building, a couple
 months ago I exported part of a large database from PAF5 to
 Legacy (free v). The GED contained without my noticing it
 in time to fix it before import data in the PAF fields for
 description of individual and the AFN, as well as a Custom ID.

 That is now causing me grief, as the description and the AFN
 are in many of the reports Legacy creates ... and I can't
 find them to delete the content IN Legacy. The information
 is extraneous for my purpose here. So, I took the database
 over to the FHC to see if I could delete them there using
 the paid v. Still couldn't see them to delete.

 So -- how do I get rid of these without having to edit the
 output manually?

 Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Explanation, please?

2013-09-06 Thread R G Strong-genes
Cheryl,
To get the AFN field to appear in family view, right click on any of the
labels (born, died, etc) and a Customize Family View Information screen will
pop up. Then in the last field click on the button with three dots in it and
you can select which field to display, there you will find in the list
Ancestral File Number highlight and click on select to put that on that
line. When you open the individual that AFN is also one of the fields that
show at the bottom of their edit screen along with their FamilySearch ID and
User ID if one was created. You could also do a search for the AFN and then
tag those individuals that have an AFN number.

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 2:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Explanation, please?

The GED was inserted into a brand-new database.  ONLY the
people from the GED and those added since are in there.

I followed Mike's hint about various notes, and then poked
around in the HELP files, and am still coming up blank on
where Legacy has put these.

Boyd's suggestion to re-export and be more careful in what I
export is mostly likely to be the answer, but I can, maybe,
GED out of Legacy and delete this stuff from there.  Or at
the VERY least find out where Legacy has it hidden. (g)

Cheryl

Ron Taylor wrote:
 Did the data you wish to keep also have Custom ID numbers? I
 assume you mean UserID numbers. If only the imported data
 had those UserID numbers, you could select for UserID not
 equal blank and then delete them. Same logic for the
 description of individual you mentioned. Unless you have
 something that uniquely identifies the data you want to
 delete, it may be hard. Perhaps you added all the imported
 records with a RIN number higher than the records already in
 your file.
 Ron Taylor

 
 *From:* singhals singh...@erols.com
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 5, 2013 7:11 PM
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Explanation, please?

 To do some arcane sorting and family-building, a couple
 months ago I exported part of a large database from PAF5 to
 Legacy (free v). The GED contained without my noticing it
 in time to fix it before import data in the PAF fields for
 description of individual and the AFN, as well as a Custom ID.

 That is now causing me grief, as the description and the AFN
 are in many of the reports Legacy creates ... and I can't
 find them to delete the content IN Legacy. The information
 is extraneous for my purpose here. So, I took the database
 over to the FHC to see if I could delete them there using
 the paid v. Still couldn't see them to delete.

 So -- how do I get rid of these without having to edit the
 output manually?

 Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Intellimerge

2013-09-06 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Richard,

Well that must have changed at some point because the structure outline I
have (ver 6)  shows this;

IntelliShare  Text 50 (**4a, was 30)
tblIR.IDIR:yymmdd:hhmmss
1234:011231:134501
Rin# 1234 + 31 December 2001 + 1:14:01 PM


But That still doesnt answer the perplexing issue of how to resolve the
error message


Thanks

Jay












On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Richard Van Wasshnova 
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jay,

 The Intellishare number is not encrypted, nor is it derived from the
 modified date. It is a 32 digit hexadecimal number produced by a random
 number generator when a new Individual record is created.

 --
 Richard Van Wasshnova

 On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
 1familytree@gmail.com wrote:

 Ron,

 Will let you know if I hear back.

 My understanding is that the Intellishare ID number is basically the
 modified Date/Time number turned into something like a encrypted Key

 So there really wouldnt be any need for the added or modified date as the
 only real comparison you can make with intellishare is if the numbers are
 different.

 Jay



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Re: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions

2013-09-06 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Great Idea!!
 I may use that in several places where the maiden name is used where I
would prefer to see her married name.
Sometimes the answer is so simple, Less is More.

Thanks




On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Kathy,

 Why not just use the wife's first name? Whilst I agree that this is
 perhaps not ideal, her married surname can easily be inferred from other
 details.


 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 I admit at the start that I have not tried this but there is one rule
 in the event sentence definition Help that indicates there may be no way
 to have a death notice event for a woman use her married surname.
 
 Here is a quote from the help.
 Note: Some [fields] are meant to be used for individual events and
 others for marriage events.  The fields for marriage events include:
 
 [CoupleFirstNames]
 [HusbFirstName]
 [HusbFullName]
 ... any fields beginning with [Husb
 [WifeFirstName]
 [WifeFullName]
 ... any fields beginning with [Wife
 [MRIN]
 
 If these are put into individual events, they would not always make
 sense. For example, using [HusbFullName] in the sentence for a woman
 that was never married, or was married more than once, would not result
 in a name.  Legacy can't just remove the field, or leave it unchanged in
 these cases, so it should not be used. When Legacy finds a marriage-type
 name field in an individual event sentence, like [HusbFullName], it just
 returns the current individual's name information...even if that person
 is a female.
 
 [WifeMarriedSurname] is one of the marriage fields not allowed in an
 individual event sentence. By this rule. The married surname of a woman
 is stored with the marriage information for the couple so it is not
 available for use when creating a sentence for an event for the
 individual.
 
 Remember that there may be multiple marriages so Legacy would not know
 which marriage to pick as the source for the married surname where a
 person has multiple marriages if we allowed marriage type fields with
 individual events.
 
 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 --
 
 On 04/09/2013 6:50 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
  Sorry to ask yet another question about Sentences, but this one is more
  about Conditional Formatting within a definition.
 
  I have an event Death Notice - everyone is likely to have one (no-one
 is
  immortal afterall)
  Because females typically change their surname at the time of their
  marriage, death notices are usually published in the married name rather
  than the maiden name. Males usually don't change their surname.
 
  As such, what I want my sentence to do for my Death Notice event is to
  produce one of two possibilities.
  For males and unmarried females - use the preferred given name and
 surname
  For married woman - use the preferred given name but use the married
 surname
 
  As an example...
  Jane Doe, dies unmarried on 1 Jan 1900, death notice is published on 2
 Jan
  1900 in The Newspaper.
  The sentence should read roughly like
  On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Doe appeared in The Newspaper.
  (any notes)(sources)
 
  However, if Jane Doe had married John Blow at some point, then her death
  notice sentence should read
  On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Blow appeared in The Newspaper.
 
  A male would have the same sentence result regardless of marital status
 due
  to no change of name.
 
  I know that there are some Conditional things that can be written in to
 the
  Sentence Definitions (living vs deceased words, buried vs cremated),
 but I
  can't figure out the [:: :: ] combo for this sentence to work.
 
  Anyone know how I can achieve this, or am I currently asking too much of
  the program?
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

2013-09-06 Thread Brian/Support
You only have to fix the locations once in the Master Location List to
have the fixed location used by all the people and events. Go to View
  Master Lists  Location to open that list.

I will let you decide, based on your own evaluation of the need,
whether you will change all your locations to 4 part. My ancestors came
from Ireland and Wales to Canada and all those countries do not use 4
levels of governmental administration for locations. I do have American
relatives and for US locations the 4 levels are appropriate. I use a mix
of levels appropriate to the country. If I want to check a location in
the Geo database for Canadian, Ireland or Wales locations I will
temporarily edit the location to fit the 4 levels, make my check, then
revert to the usual number of levels for that country. These temporary
edits are easy from the Master Location List. The US County verifier
needs 4 levels but I use those for US locations anyway so the verifier
works.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
--

On 03/09/2013 10:56 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
 Hi,

 Just wondering, given that the locations are supposed to be a 4-part
 location (city, county, state, country), what should I do for English 
 Australian locations which typically only have three parts City, County,
 Country (for UK) or City, State, Country (for Australia)

 I would rather not put in a blank county/state just for the sake of
 uniformity, but I feel that with the upcoming update to Legacy 8 and the
 new Origins and Migration Reports, I am going to have to do something, or
 my reports are not going to be completely accurate.

 Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do - of if I do need to
 put in a blank County/State, how I can do this for a database of at least
 5000 UK  Australian based people?

 Thanks
 Kathy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Explanation, please?

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Taylor
You can also find all records with a Modified date after the time you merged 
them in and use that to tag and delete.



 From: singhals singh...@erols.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Explanation, please?


The GED was inserted into a brand-new database.  ONLY the
people from the GED and those added since are in there.

I followed Mike's hint about various notes, and then poked
around in the HELP files, and am still coming up blank on
where Legacy has put these.

Boyd's suggestion to re-export and be more careful in what I
export is mostly likely to be the answer, but I can, maybe,
GED out of Legacy and delete this stuff from there.  Or at
the VERY least find out where Legacy has it hidden. (g)

Cheryl

Ron Taylor wrote:
 Did the data you wish to keep also have Custom ID numbers? I
 assume you mean UserID numbers. If only the imported data
 had those UserID numbers, you could select for UserID not
 equal blank and then delete them. Same logic for the
 description of individual you mentioned. Unless you have
 something that uniquely identifies the data you want to
 delete, it may be hard. Perhaps you added all the imported
 records with a RIN number higher than the records already in
 your file.
 Ron Taylor

 
 *From:* singhals singh...@erols.com
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 5, 2013 7:11 PM
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Explanation, please?

 To do some arcane sorting and family-building, a couple
 months ago I exported part of a large database from PAF5 to
 Legacy (free v). The GED contained without my noticing it
 in time to fix it before import data in the PAF fields for
 description of individual and the AFN, as well as a Custom ID.

 That is now causing me grief, as the description and the AFN
 are in many of the reports Legacy creates ... and I can't
 find them to delete the content IN Legacy. The information
 is extraneous for my purpose here. So, I took the database
 over to the FHC to see if I could delete them there using
 the paid v. Still couldn't see them to delete.

 So -- how do I get rid of these without having to edit the
 output manually?

 Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Ferguson
Kathy,

Why not just use the wife's first name? Whilst I agree that this is perhaps not 
ideal, her married surname can easily be inferred from other details.


Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

I admit at the start that I have not tried this but there is one rule
in the event sentence definition Help that indicates there may be no way
to have a death notice event for a woman use her married surname.

Here is a quote from the help.
Note: Some [fields] are meant to be used for individual events and
others for marriage events.  The fields for marriage events include:

[CoupleFirstNames]
[HusbFirstName]
[HusbFullName]
... any fields beginning with [Husb
[WifeFirstName]
[WifeFullName]
... any fields beginning with [Wife
[MRIN]

If these are put into individual events, they would not always make
sense. For example, using [HusbFullName] in the sentence for a woman
that was never married, or was married more than once, would not result
in a name.  Legacy can't just remove the field, or leave it unchanged in
these cases, so it should not be used. When Legacy finds a marriage-type
name field in an individual event sentence, like [HusbFullName], it just
returns the current individual's name information...even if that person
is a female.

[WifeMarriedSurname] is one of the marriage fields not allowed in an
individual event sentence. By this rule. The married surname of a woman
is stored with the marriage information for the couple so it is not
available for use when creating a sentence for an event for the individual.

Remember that there may be multiple marriages so Legacy would not know
which marriage to pick as the source for the married surname where a
person has multiple marriages if we allowed marriage type fields with
individual events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
--

On 04/09/2013 6:50 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
 Sorry to ask yet another question about Sentences, but this one is more
 about Conditional Formatting within a definition.

 I have an event Death Notice - everyone is likely to have one (no-one is
 immortal afterall)
 Because females typically change their surname at the time of their
 marriage, death notices are usually published in the married name rather
 than the maiden name. Males usually don't change their surname.

 As such, what I want my sentence to do for my Death Notice event is to
 produce one of two possibilities.
 For males and unmarried females - use the preferred given name and surname
 For married woman - use the preferred given name but use the married surname

 As an example...
 Jane Doe, dies unmarried on 1 Jan 1900, death notice is published on 2 Jan
 1900 in The Newspaper.
 The sentence should read roughly like
 On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Doe appeared in The Newspaper.
 (any notes)(sources)

 However, if Jane Doe had married John Blow at some point, then her death
 notice sentence should read
 On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Blow appeared in The Newspaper.

 A male would have the same sentence result regardless of marital status due
 to no change of name.

 I know that there are some Conditional things that can be written in to the
 Sentence Definitions (living vs deceased words, buried vs cremated), but I
 can't figure out the [:: :: ] combo for this sentence to work.

 Anyone know how I can achieve this, or am I currently asking too much of
 the program?

 Thanks.



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Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Ferguson
Brian,

It is a great shame that Legacy gives the impression that the 4 field 
convention is universal, when it definitely is not. I do wish that the Help 
files would make this clear.

As a Brit, I work pretty much as yourself and without problem, but long ago 
gave up using the geolocator, except for the US, as Google Maps, and even Bing 
are far better. I also have an excellent set of gazetteers.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

You only have to fix the locations once in the Master Location List to
have the fixed location used by all the people and events. Go to View
  Master Lists  Location to open that list.

I will let you decide, based on your own evaluation of the need,
whether you will change all your locations to 4 part. My ancestors came
from Ireland and Wales to Canada and all those countries do not use 4
levels of governmental administration for locations. I do have American
relatives and for US locations the 4 levels are appropriate. I use a mix
of levels appropriate to the country. If I want to check a location in
the Geo database for Canadian, Ireland or Wales locations I will
temporarily edit the location to fit the 4 levels, make my check, then
revert to the usual number of levels for that country. These temporary
edits are easy from the Master Location List. The US County verifier
needs 4 levels but I use those for US locations anyway so the verifier
works.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
--

On 03/09/2013 10:56 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
 Hi,

 Just wondering, given that the locations are supposed to be a 4-part
 location (city, county, state, country), what should I do for English 
 Australian locations which typically only have three parts City, County,
 Country (for UK) or City, State, Country (for Australia)

 I would rather not put in a blank county/state just for the sake of
 uniformity, but I feel that with the upcoming update to Legacy 8 and the
 new Origins and Migration Reports, I am going to have to do something, or
 my reports are not going to be completely accurate.

 Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do - of if I do need to
 put in a blank County/State, how I can do this for a database of at least
 5000 UK  Australian based people?

 Thanks
 Kathy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions

2013-09-06 Thread Brian/Support
I admit at the start that I have not tried this but there is one rule
in the event sentence definition Help that indicates there may be no way
to have a death notice event for a woman use her married surname.

Here is a quote from the help.
Note: Some [fields] are meant to be used for individual events and
others for marriage events.  The fields for marriage events include:

[CoupleFirstNames]
[HusbFirstName]
[HusbFullName]
... any fields beginning with [Husb
[WifeFirstName]
[WifeFullName]
... any fields beginning with [Wife
[MRIN]

If these are put into individual events, they would not always make
sense. For example, using [HusbFullName] in the sentence for a woman
that was never married, or was married more than once, would not result
in a name.  Legacy can't just remove the field, or leave it unchanged in
these cases, so it should not be used. When Legacy finds a marriage-type
name field in an individual event sentence, like [HusbFullName], it just
returns the current individual's name information...even if that person
is a female.

[WifeMarriedSurname] is one of the marriage fields not allowed in an
individual event sentence. By this rule. The married surname of a woman
is stored with the marriage information for the couple so it is not
available for use when creating a sentence for an event for the individual.

Remember that there may be multiple marriages so Legacy would not know
which marriage to pick as the source for the married surname where a
person has multiple marriages if we allowed marriage type fields with
individual events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 04/09/2013 6:50 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
 Sorry to ask yet another question about Sentences, but this one is more
 about Conditional Formatting within a definition.

 I have an event Death Notice - everyone is likely to have one (no-one is
 immortal afterall)
 Because females typically change their surname at the time of their
 marriage, death notices are usually published in the married name rather
 than the maiden name. Males usually don't change their surname.

 As such, what I want my sentence to do for my Death Notice event is to
 produce one of two possibilities.
 For males and unmarried females - use the preferred given name and surname
 For married woman - use the preferred given name but use the married surname

 As an example...
 Jane Doe, dies unmarried on 1 Jan 1900, death notice is published on 2 Jan
 1900 in The Newspaper.
 The sentence should read roughly like
 On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Doe appeared in The Newspaper.
 (any notes)(sources)

 However, if Jane Doe had married John Blow at some point, then her death
 notice sentence should read
 On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Blow appeared in The Newspaper.

 A male would have the same sentence result regardless of marital status due
 to no change of name.

 I know that there are some Conditional things that can be written in to the
 Sentence Definitions (living vs deceased words, buried vs cremated), but I
 can't figure out the [:: :: ] combo for this sentence to work.

 Anyone know how I can achieve this, or am I currently asking too much of
 the program?

 Thanks.



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[LegacyUG] MORE Blogging for Beginners - free webinar by DearMYRTLE now online for limited time

2013-09-06 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
The recording of today's excellent webinar by DearMYRTLE, MORE Blogging
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Re: [LegacyUG] Report preview: default to whole page?

2013-09-06 Thread Brian/Support
I do not see a setting for that but I just ran a short test and Legacy
remembered after I changed the PDF preview view to full page when I
ran different reports and also remembered the full-page view after i
closed and restarted the program.

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On 04/09/2013 1:43 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 Is there a way I could have the default zoom level on my preview of all 
 reports to be whole page?  (rather than page width)
 Thanks,

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Re: [LegacyUG] default 4-part location - city, county, state, country

2013-09-06 Thread Kathy Thompson
Thanks Brian.
I think I'll wait and see how the Origins and Migrations report deals with
the 3 part place names before I make any final decision about place names.
I do have the option at least of putting in an electoral district as
county for Australian locations, but the problem there is that federal
elections have different electoral districts to state elections, and they
both can change over time.


On 7 September 2013 06:13, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 You only have to fix the locations once in the Master Location List to
 have the fixed location used by all the people and events. Go to View
   Master Lists  Location to open that list.

 I will let you decide, based on your own evaluation of the need,
 whether you will change all your locations to 4 part. My ancestors came
 from Ireland and Wales to Canada and all those countries do not use 4
 levels of governmental administration for locations. I do have American
 relatives and for US locations the 4 levels are appropriate. I use a mix
 of levels appropriate to the country. If I want to check a location in
 the Geo database for Canadian, Ireland or Wales locations I will
 temporarily edit the location to fit the 4 levels, make my check, then
 revert to the usual number of levels for that country. These temporary
 edits are easy from the Master Location List. The US County verifier
 needs 4 levels but I use those for US locations anyway so the verifier
 works.

 Brian
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 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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 --

 On 03/09/2013 10:56 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Just wondering, given that the locations are supposed to be a 4-part
  location (city, county, state, country), what should I do for English 
  Australian locations which typically only have three parts City, County,
  Country (for UK) or City, State, Country (for Australia)
 
  I would rather not put in a blank county/state just for the sake of
  uniformity, but I feel that with the upcoming update to Legacy 8 and the
  new Origins and Migration Reports, I am going to have to do something, or
  my reports are not going to be completely accurate.
 
  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do - of if I do need to
  put in a blank County/State, how I can do this for a database of at least
  5000 UK  Australian based people?
 
  Thanks
  Kathy



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[LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

2013-09-06 Thread David Dearth
Hello all.  Last week I updated to the latest version of Legacy (Deluxe)
7.5.0.270.  I have noticed that the modified date for my entire database was
reset to the day that I updated, which in my case was 8/29/13.  Did anyone
else experience this?  Is it reversible?  I have people that I have not
worked on since 2007 that now show a last modified date of 8/29/2013.

Thanks
Dave Dearth





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Re: [LegacyUG] Conditional Sentence Definitions

2013-09-06 Thread Kathy Thompson
Remember that there may be multiple marriages so Legacy would not know
which marriage to pick as the source for the married surname where a
person has multiple marriages if we allowed marriage type fields with
individual events.

Good point there Brian - I hadn't thought of that as I do not have that
many women re-marrying - men yes, women only a handful that I can think of.
But in that handful, one woman comes to mind, where the preferred spouse is
the direct line, but the name at death is a subsequent marriage.
How would I tell Legacy I don't want the preferred spouse surname - it just
gets more complicated from there.

A Ron pointed out too - the married surname can be inferred from other data
 details.

Thanks everyone - back to the sentence construction for me - with a rethink
of how I want the sentence written.



On 7 September 2013 05:50, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 I admit at the start that I have not tried this but there is one rule
 in the event sentence definition Help that indicates there may be no way
 to have a death notice event for a woman use her married surname.

 Here is a quote from the help.
 Note: Some [fields] are meant to be used for individual events and
 others for marriage events.  The fields for marriage events include:

 [CoupleFirstNames]
 [HusbFirstName]
 [HusbFullName]
 ... any fields beginning with [Husb
 [WifeFirstName]
 [WifeFullName]
 ... any fields beginning with [Wife
 [MRIN]

 If these are put into individual events, they would not always make
 sense. For example, using [HusbFullName] in the sentence for a woman
 that was never married, or was married more than once, would not result
 in a name.  Legacy can't just remove the field, or leave it unchanged in
 these cases, so it should not be used. When Legacy finds a marriage-type
 name field in an individual event sentence, like [HusbFullName], it just
 returns the current individual's name information...even if that person
 is a female.

 [WifeMarriedSurname] is one of the marriage fields not allowed in an
 individual event sentence. By this rule. The married surname of a woman
 is stored with the marriage information for the couple so it is not
 available for use when creating a sentence for an event for the individual.

 Remember that there may be multiple marriages so Legacy would not know
 which marriage to pick as the source for the married surname where a
 person has multiple marriages if we allowed marriage type fields with
 individual events.

 Brian
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 Millennia Corporation
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 --

 On 04/09/2013 6:50 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
  Sorry to ask yet another question about Sentences, but this one is more
  about Conditional Formatting within a definition.
 
  I have an event Death Notice - everyone is likely to have one (no-one
 is
  immortal afterall)
  Because females typically change their surname at the time of their
  marriage, death notices are usually published in the married name rather
  than the maiden name. Males usually don't change their surname.
 
  As such, what I want my sentence to do for my Death Notice event is to
  produce one of two possibilities.
  For males and unmarried females - use the preferred given name and
 surname
  For married woman - use the preferred given name but use the married
 surname
 
  As an example...
  Jane Doe, dies unmarried on 1 Jan 1900, death notice is published on 2
 Jan
  1900 in The Newspaper.
  The sentence should read roughly like
  On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Doe appeared in The Newspaper.
  (any notes)(sources)
 
  However, if Jane Doe had married John Blow at some point, then her death
  notice sentence should read
  On 2 Jan 1900, the death notice for Jane Blow appeared in The Newspaper.
 
  A male would have the same sentence result regardless of marital status
 due
  to no change of name.
 
  I know that there are some Conditional things that can be written in to
 the
  Sentence Definitions (living vs deceased words, buried vs cremated), but
 I
  can't figure out the [:: :: ] combo for this sentence to work.
 
  Anyone know how I can achieve this, or am I currently asking too much of
  the program?
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
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[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator print

2013-09-06 Thread Bernd Hornung
I recently added a database of my wife's maternal family, a database
that originally got me interested in genealogy.  I notice that there
were some familiar surnames that seemed to related to a 3rd cousin of
mine that I had found last year.  I tracked these names through FS and
other sources and BINGO, she turned out to be my wife's 6th cousin.

Now, when I try to create a text file of the relationship calculator I
get a runtime 0005 error and the program crashes.  I tried this twice
with the same result.  Has anyone encountered this and is there is solution?

What I what to do is put this relationship plus my relationship on my
blog so I need a text document that I can play with to format. There
doesn't seem to be a report for this.

Any thoughts or advice gratefully received.

Bernie


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RE: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

2013-09-06 Thread CE WOOD
There seem to be many buggy things going on in the last few updates. Are the 
programmers not spending enough time on these because they are concentrating on 
version 8? It does seem better to retain version 7.5.0.219!

CE


 From: deart...@hotmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update
 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:16:29 -0400

 Hello all.  Last week I updated to the latest version of Legacy (Deluxe)
 7.5.0.270.  I have noticed that the modified date for my entire database was
 reset to the day that I updated, which in my case was 8/29/13.  Did anyone
 else experience this?  Is it reversible?  I have people that I have not
 worked on since 2007 that now show a last modified date of 8/29/2013.

 Thanks
 Dave Dearth





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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator print

2013-09-06 Thread Bernd Hornung
Just fixed my own problem.  There was little button that referred to the
current relationship that needed to be checked.  The default is all
relationships and that is too much to for the system when you have
30,000 in the db.  It takes long enough for Legacy to work through all
those people just to do the relationship between the two highlighted people.

Berni


On 06/09/2013 6:12 PM, Bernd Hornung wrote:
 I recently added a database of my wife's maternal family, a database
 that originally got me interested in genealogy.  I notice that there
 were some familiar surnames that seemed to related to a 3rd cousin of
 mine that I had found last year.  I tracked these names through FS and
 other sources and BINGO, she turned out to be my wife's 6th cousin.

 Now, when I try to create a text file of the relationship calculator I
 get a runtime 0005 error and the program crashes.  I tried this twice
 with the same result.  Has anyone encountered this and is there is
 solution?

 What I what to do is put this relationship plus my relationship on my
 blog so I need a text document that I can play with to format. There
 doesn't seem to be a report for this.

 Any thoughts or advice gratefully received.

 Bernie


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RE: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Walter
David,

I'm assuming you mean the date shown at the bottom right of the Families window 
- if so, I have a similar problem - but in my case, most but not all have been 
updated to the install date even though I haven't changed any family records.  
I wonder if some conversion routine updated when it shouldn't.

I doubt if it is reversible - maybe if you have a file backup from before the 
release?  Maybe support can enlighten us?

Ron

-Original Message-
From: David Dearth [mailto:deart...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 04:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

Hello all.  Last week I updated to the latest version of Legacy (Deluxe) 
7.5.0.270.  I have noticed that the modified date for my entire database was 
reset to the day that I updated, which in my case was 8/29/13.  Did anyone else 
experience this?  Is it reversible?  I have people that I have not worked on 
since 2007 that now show a last modified date of 8/29/2013.

Thanks
Dave Dearth





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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

2013-09-06 Thread David Dearth
Yes, that is correct.  The date on the bottom right.  I also did a search
for individuals with a modified date of 8/29/13 and my entire database was
in the resulting list.  I do not know what happened, but this is the first
update that has ever done this.  I have stopped entering information until I
find out if I can go back or not.

Dave


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From: Ron Walter ronwal...@sonic.net
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

 David,

 I'm assuming you mean the date shown at the bottom right of the Families
 window - if so, I have a similar problem - but in my case, most but not
 all have been updated to the install date even though I haven't changed
 any family records.  I wonder if some conversion routine updated when it
 shouldn't.

 I doubt if it is reversible - maybe if you have a file backup from before
 the release?  Maybe support can enlighten us?

 Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: David Dearth [mailto:deart...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 04:16 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

 Hello all.  Last week I updated to the latest version of Legacy (Deluxe)
 7.5.0.270.  I have noticed that the modified date for my entire database
 was reset to the day that I updated, which in my case was 8/29/13.  Did
 anyone else experience this?  Is it reversible?  I have people that I have
 not worked on since 2007 that now show a last modified date of 8/29/2013.

 Thanks
 Dave Dearth








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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Taylor
I confirm there is a problem with the Modified Date being reset recently.  Of 
240,000 individuals, there are about 210,000 of them with Modified Date after 
8/15/2013 which is when version 7.5.0.268 was released.  I'm not sure why 
30,000 did not get changed but only about 600 of those have Modified Date 
before 7/1/2013.  I am absolutely certain that the file was not changed or 
imported.  This had to be a programming error when the file structures were 
altered for the FamilySearch Family Tree interface.
Ron Taylor



 From: Ron Walter ronwal...@sonic.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update


David,

I'm assuming you mean the date shown at the bottom right of the Families window 
- if so, I have a similar problem - but in my case, most but not all have been 
updated to the install date even though I haven't changed any family records.  
I wonder if some conversion routine updated when it shouldn't.

I doubt if it is reversible - maybe if you have a file backup from before the 
release?  Maybe support can enlighten us?

Ron

-Original Message-
From: David Dearth [mailto:deart...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 04:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

Hello all.  Last week I updated to the latest version of Legacy (Deluxe) 
7.5.0.270.  I have noticed that the modified date for my entire database was 
reset to the day that I updated, which in my case was 8/29/13.  Did anyone else 
experience this?  Is it reversible?  I have people that I have not worked on 
since 2007 that now show a last modified date of 8/29/2013.

Thanks
Dave Dearth





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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Taylor
If the earlier post about Intellishare value is correct, then the date the 
Intellishare value was generated may be embedded in that value and could 
possibly be used to restore the Added Date to its original value.



 From: David Dearth deart...@hotmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update


Yes, that is correct.  The date on the bottom right.  I also did a search
for individuals with a modified date of 8/29/13 and my entire database was
in the resulting list.  I do not know what happened, but this is the first
update that has ever done this.  I have stopped entering information until I
find out if I can go back or not.

Dave


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From: Ron Walter ronwal...@sonic.net
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

 David,

 I'm assuming you mean the date shown at the bottom right of the Families
 window - if so, I have a similar problem - but in my case, most but not
 all have been updated to the install date even though I haven't changed
 any family records.  I wonder if some conversion routine updated when it
 shouldn't.

 I doubt if it is reversible - maybe if you have a file backup from before
 the release?  Maybe support can enlighten us?

 Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: David Dearth [mailto:deart...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 04:16 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

 Hello all.  Last week I updated to the latest version of Legacy (Deluxe)
 7.5.0.270.  I have noticed that the modified date for my entire database
 was reset to the day that I updated, which in my case was 8/29/13.  Did
 anyone else experience this?  Is it reversible?  I have people that I have
 not worked on since 2007 that now show a last modified date of 8/29/2013.

 Thanks
 Dave Dearth








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