Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[Carolyn]

I agree with Ana on this one, I find the Legacy wording too stilted, but its so 
easy to create the report and then drop it into a word document.
Looking at the sample from Linda, which is very nice, Legacy will also allow 
you to add your own background to a chart or tree.
I created a dropline chart with a photo of each person, and used an old sepia 
photo of the street the family lived in as a background.
When this was faded a little it looked really good and has wowed all the 
rellies.

I found the charting chapter in the manual very helpful for this, and creating 
other customised charts.

Carolyn





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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[Steve Hayes]

On 13 Dec 2015 at 9:03, William Boswell wrote:

> That's a really nice book.  I always wanted to do something like that only I
> don't know how I'm going to split all the lines.  Like you have done with
> yours, a little history thrown in makes a big difference.
>
> I've read both good and bad about Rootsmagic and I don't have any personal
> experience with it.  It's certainly more expensive than Legacy, but not as
> overpriced as FTM which is still running at full price even though it will no
> longer be available after the end of the year.

I've never tried to use a genealogy program to produce a book, but I'm not
sure that a Legacy user group is the best place the relative merits of Legacy
and another program as a suitable replacement for a third.

I do use both Legacy and Rootsmagic, but I haven't tried to produce a book
with either.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[William Boswell]

That's a really nice book.  I always wanted to do something like that only I 
don't know how I'm going to split all the lines.  Like you have done with 
yours, a little history thrown in makes a big difference.



I've read both good and bad about Rootsmagic and I don't have any personal 
experience with it.  It's certainly more expensive than Legacy, but not as 
overpriced as FTM which is still running at full price even though it will no 
longer be available after the end of the year.



I started off with FTM long ago and would have stuck with it if they hadn't 
gone the route they went starting with the 2008/2009 versions.  I'm still 
cleaning up the mess from FTM 2009 after exporting/importing into Legacy as a 
GEDCOM.  If you have to export from FTM to a GEDCOM, make sure the box that 
says something about moving unknown text to Notes is not checked.  I checked it 
and all of my Source Details (Citations in FTM) were moved to the Comments 
section.  It created a nightmare that started in 2009.  I have to go through 
thousands of people to fix it.  The good thing about it is I can go back to 
people I haven't checked on in years and update their information.



The fortunate thing about most genealogy programs is you can export to an RTF 
format then produce your own look.  It might take some extra effort if you were 
to copy and paste into MS Word where a custom template would work better in 
this case.  In Legacy, you can create it as a webpage then customize it in a 
cheap or free HTML program for layout purposes then export to a PDF.  There are 
a lot of open source programs available and most are free at:   www dot osalt 
dot com



Bill



From: Linda [mailto:keechival...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 11:23 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just 
stay with FTM for now)



I thought I'd show you a sample portion of one of my books from FTM.



http://ge.tt/950yFXT2/v/0?c



I've been looking at both Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 and I don't doubt for a 
moment they both do more than enough when it comes to recording my family 
history.  But for me I need to produce a book that looks clean and nice.  In 
looking at both RM and Legacy8 (both in trial versions) I'm not satisfied that 
either will allow me to make reports like I want.  I know some features are 
disabled and I may find that I can do more than I anticipate with a full 
version.  I know both are cheap and some say just buy both but I am not in a 
position to spend money on a program I won't be using.  I want to be able to 
produce the book without much effort when I make additions to my family 
tree/history.



I looked at the family group sheet in both RM and Legacy 8.  Neither looked 
like they would produce the clean look of the one I have in my pdf.



Also, I think the pedigree chart background and having pics of each person 
makes it nice to look at.



And I need to be able to make pages such as you see in this book: Chicago Fire, 
Castle Garden Immigration, etc. - these are not connected to any person.  In 
FTM you can make a text page and copy and paste pictures onto it.



I do have to say that I like the cleaner, less complicated feel of Rootsmagic 
but I feel like Legacy will be closer to what I need for book publishing.



I do appreciate your patience and kindness in talking to me about these things. 
 I know FTM will probably work for many years and maybe I just need to be 
patient and see what comes down the road.  I just don't want to put a lot more 
effort into something I know I will have to totally redo when I move to another 
program (the books, the family history portion at first glance seems to have 
imported fairly well).



Thank you again!



Linda





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RE: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[Diane Murach]

Linda’s book is the kind I want to learn to create as well.It is beautiful 
and I want to work generation by generation back through the ancestors.  I 
think I need lessons on ancestor book creation.



Diane



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:03 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or 
just stay with FTM for now)



That's a really nice book.  I always wanted to do something like that only I 
don't know how I'm going to split all the lines.  Like you have done with 
yours, a little history thrown in makes a big difference.



I've read both good and bad about Rootsmagic and I don't have any personal 
experience with it.  It's certainly more expensive than Legacy, but not as 
overpriced as FTM which is still running at full price even though it will no 
longer be available after the end of the year.



I started off with FTM long ago and would have stuck with it if they hadn't 
gone the route they went starting with the 2008/2009 versions.  I'm still 
cleaning up the mess from FTM 2009 after exporting/importing into Legacy as a 
GEDCOM.  If you have to export from FTM to a GEDCOM, make sure the box that 
says something about moving unknown text to Notes is not checked.  I checked it 
and all of my Source Details (Citations in FTM) were moved to the Comments 
section.  It created a nightmare that started in 2009.  I have to go through 
thousands of people to fix it.  The good thing about it is I can go back to 
people I haven't checked on in years and update their information.



The fortunate thing about most genealogy programs is you can export to an RTF 
format then produce your own look.  It might take some extra effort if you were 
to copy and paste into MS Word where a custom template would work better in 
this case.  In Legacy, you can create it as a webpage then customize it in a 
cheap or free HTML program for layout purposes then export to a PDF.  There are 
a lot of open source programs available and most are free at:   www dot osalt 
dot com



Bill



From: Linda [mailto:keechival...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 11:23 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just 
stay with FTM for now)



I thought I'd show you a sample portion of one of my books from FTM.



http://ge.tt/950yFXT2/v/0?c



I've been looking at both Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 and I don't doubt for a 
moment they both do more than enough when it comes to recording my family 
history.  But for me I need to produce a book that looks clean and nice.  In 
looking at both RM and Legacy8 (both in trial versions) I'm not satisfied that 
either will allow me to make reports like I want.  I know some features are 
disabled and I may find that I can do more than I anticipate with a full 
version.  I know both are cheap and some say just buy both but I am not in a 
position to spend money on a program I won't be using.  I want to be able to 
produce the book without much effort when I make additions to my family 
tree/history.



I looked at the family group sheet in both RM and Legacy 8.  Neither looked 
like they would produce the clean look of the one I have in my pdf.



Also, I think the pedigree chart background and having pics of each person 
makes it nice to look at.



And I need to be able to make pages such as you see in this book: Chicago Fire, 
Castle Garden Immigration, etc. - these are not connected to any person.  In 
FTM you can make a text page and copy and paste pictures onto it.



I do have to say that I like the cleaner, less complicated feel of Rootsmagic 
but I feel like Legacy will be closer to what I need for book publishing.



I do appreciate your patience and kindness in talking to me about these things. 
 I know FTM will probably work for many years and maybe I just need to be 
patient and see what comes down the road.  I just don't want to put a lot more 
effort into something I know I will have to totally redo when I move to another 
program (the books, the family history portion at first glance seems to have 
imported fairly well).



Thank you again!



Linda



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[Leon Chapman]

Linda:

Neither Legacy of Rootsmagic will produce Books like you have in FTM.
In Legacy, You can insert blank pages into the book and later edit with a
Word Processor and fill in those pages.
  You can also insert text pages as a chapter in your book (no graphics).

I have publish 4 books using Legacy and I am very happy with the detailed
formatting options and control of the output -- It has lots of options and
controls other programs do not have.

If  you want to use your current book format, just stick with FTM

Good luck

___
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-

On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Linda  wrote:

> I thought I'd show you a sample portion of one of my books from FTM.
>
> http://ge.tt/950yFXT2/v/0?c
>
> I've been looking at both Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 and I don't doubt for a
> moment they both do more than enough when it comes to recording my family
> history.  But for me I need to produce a book that looks clean and nice.
> In looking at both RM and Legacy8 (both in trial versions) I'm not
> satisfied that either will allow me to make reports like I want.  I know
> some features are disabled and I may find that I can do more than I
> anticipate with a full version.  I know both are cheap and some say just
> buy both but I am not in a position to spend money on a program I won't be
> using.  I want to be able to produce the book without much effort when I
> make additions to my family tree/history.
>
> I looked at the family group sheet in both RM and Legacy 8.  Neither
> looked like they would produce the clean look of the one I have in my pdf.
>
> Also, I think the pedigree chart background and having pics of each person
> makes it nice to look at.
>
> And I need to be able to make pages such as you see in this book: Chicago
> Fire, Castle Garden Immigration, etc. - these are not connected to any
> person.  In FTM you can make a text page and copy and paste pictures onto
> it.
>
> I do have to say that I like the cleaner, less complicated feel of
> Rootsmagic but I feel like Legacy will be closer to what I need for book
> publishing.
>
> I do appreciate your patience and kindness in talking to me about these
> things.  I know FTM will probably work for many years and maybe I just need
> to be patient and see what comes down the road.  I just don't want to put a
> lot more effort into something I know I will have to totally redo when I
> move to another program (the books, the family history portion at first
> glance seems to have imported fairly well).
>
> Thank you again!
>
> Linda
>
> 
>  This
> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast.
> www.avast.com
> 
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[William Boswell]

Steve:

It probably is not the right place, but I don't think it's your position to 
point this out.  I was only responding to the OP's post because she was 
interested in both programs.

Bill


-Original Message-
From: Steve Hayes [mailto:hayes...@telkomsa.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 10:43 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or 
just stay with FTM for now)

On 13 Dec 2015 at 9:03, William Boswell wrote:

> That's a really nice book.  I always wanted to do something like that
> only I don't know how I'm going to split all the lines.  Like you have
> done with yours, a little history thrown in makes a big difference.
>
> I've read both good and bad about Rootsmagic and I don't have any
> personal experience with it.  It's certainly more expensive than
> Legacy, but not as overpriced as FTM which is still running at full
> price even though it will no longer be available after the end of the year.

I've never tried to use a genealogy program to produce a book, but I'm not sure 
that a Legacy user group is the best place the relative merits of Legacy and 
another program as a suitable replacement for a third.

I do use both Legacy and Rootsmagic, but I haven't tried to produce a book with 
either.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8

[MVMcgrs]

What  happens if you don't use Word? I use Corel's Word Perfect.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist  Emeritus
__
CG  or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for
Certification of  Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified 
genealogists
after periodic  competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the
US Patent &  Trademark Office.




In a message dated 2015-12-13 7:33:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au writes:



Pictures can be inserted  into Word documents where you can also annotate
or explain them. Therefore an  option for books (including printed ones)
appears to be:
Use Legacy “Publish  Centre” to organise chapters and use the “Place Holder
” option for Word  documents which are to be inserted after saving the book
as an RTF, then as  Word. The whole thing could then be saved as a PDF.
This would require more  playing around but may produce a great result.
John




From: _Cathy Pinner_ (mailto:genea...@gmail.com)
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 11:27 AM
To: _legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com_
(mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com)
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy  8




Linda,

You  can share events in Legacy so if your Battle of Cowpens event was
shared, it  would report all the people it was shared with.
But I don't think that is  what you are describing.
To add the pages you refer to, you'd have to add  them in an RTF version of
the report.

You can change fonts and have  different fonts for different elements BUT
you need to either use PDF or RTF  to preserve them.

A plain text file (.txt) obviously has a font but  just one.

Currently in the Publishing Centre you can add Chapters of  Special text
but it is just text - no pics.

Take a look at the HELP.  Search the Help Index for Publishing

The options for editing PDF files  increase all the time. You used to have
to have the full Adobe PDF. There are  alternatives now.

Legacy has great reporting options but ultimately,  it's a family histo ry
database, not a fully fledged word  processor.

Since Legacy 8 Deluxe is currently selling for $19.95  perhaps its worth
the investment. OR recover your Legacy 7. You can download  it again (look for
a previous versions link on the Download page) and the  sales staff at
Legacy would give you your Customer Code to unlock the deluxe  features again if
you've lost that.  There have been some change to  reports between 7 and 8
but not substantial ones to do with the questions you  are asking.

You can have Legacy 7 and 8 installed on a computer at the  same time.
Legacy 7 installs to a different place. Do not install Legacy 7  into Program
files. Legacy 8 is installed into Program Files by  default

Cathy

Linda wrote:


Lets say I have an event - The Battle of Cowpens  with a description of
that battle and a picture - and I have more than  one person that was
in that battle.
I would like a page in my book t  hat shows that picture and the
description of the event, and possibly  tells all of the people that
were involved in that event. I want the  page titled "Battle of the
Cowpens"
I have several of these in my FTM  book that are in the beginning of
the book - not with any particular  person. I have other "events" such
as historic churches that many people  in my tree went to and a page on
historic events such as "The Great Fire  of Chicago" that I don't need
attached to any particular person but I  need to put a picture (or two)
and some information about the  event.
I had Legacy Deluxe 7.x a few years back. I don't have it on my
computer now so I can't remember exactly what it did or didn't do. I
don't want to buy 8 Deluxe until I'm sure it's what I want. It seems
like in 7 if I used a text report I couldn't change the font, enlarge
fonts or change text alignment. Forgive me if I remembering wrong. But
can I do th ose things in 8?
I downloaded 8 free but much is disabled  and I haven't had time to
examine everything that I'm curious about  yet.
I know there are workarounds (creating blank pages, making pages in
another program) but I send this pdf book out often and I like it to
be current with any new information and I would like to just be able
to go to the book publishing and export to pdf and it be
complete...I'm not even sure how I'd add pages from another program
into a pdf that was created with Legacy :-)
Thanks for the responses  in helping me make my decision.
-- Original Message --
From:  "Leon Chapman" >
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com

Sent: 12/10/2015  9:03:45 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy  8


Linda:

I have published 4 genealogy  family hard cover books of over 300
pages each. I am currently in the  process of publishing another
family book. When you get ready, I can  send you information 

Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[Steve Hayes]

On 13 Dec 2015 at 13:06, William Boswell wrote:

> It probably is not the right place, but I don't think it's your position to
> point this out.  I was only responding to the OP's post because she was
> interested in both programs.

No, it is the moderator's position to point it out.

I was merely saying that I was aware that the moderator might do so, and
debated withn myself before commenting on such a topic. I would be willing to
comment on the differences between Legacy and Rootsmagic as I have
experienced them, but only with the explicit permission of the moderator,
because I have my doubts about the appropriateness of such a discussion in
this forum, and bearing in mind that I haven't used either to create a book.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8

[MVMcgrs]

Thanks  Bob.

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist  Emeritus
__
CG  or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for
Certification of  Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified 
genealogists
after periodic  competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the
US Patent &  Trademark Office.




In a message dated 2015-12-13 7:54:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
robert...@gmail.com writes:

Should  not matter what word processor you use.  If you save them as RTF
(Rich Text Format), then most major word processors can work with  them.
Then, after you've modified it with your word processor, save  it in your
word processor's native format (to save any special formatting  & etc)
and print them to a PDF (or, if your word processor supports  it, save it
to a PDF).

Bob


On 12/13/2015 19:40,  mvmc...@aol.com wrote:
> What happens if you don't use Word? I use  Corel's Word Perfect.
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori,  Certified Genealogist Emeritus
>  __
> CG or  Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for
>  Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified
>  genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name
>  is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
>
> In a  message dated 2015-12-13 7:33:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>  johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au writes:
>
>  Pictures can be inserted into Word documents where you can also
>   annotate or explain them. Therefore an option for books  (including
> printed ones) appears to  be:
>
> Use Legacy “Publish Centre” to  organise chapters and use the
> “Place Holder”  option for Word documents which are to be
inserted
>  after saving the book as an RTF, then as Word. The whole thing
>   could then be saved as a PDF.
>
>  This would require more playing around but may produce a great
result.
>
> John
>
>   *From:* Cathy Pinner  
> *Sent:* Friday,  December 11, 2015 11:27 AM
> *To:*  legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>  
>  *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8
>   Linda,
>
> You can share events in  Legacy so if your Battle of Cowpens event
> was  shared, it would report all the people it was shared with.
>   But I don't think that is what you are describing.
>   To add the pages you refer to, you'd have to add them in an  RTF
> version of the report.
>
>   You can change fonts and have different fonts for  different
> elements BUT you need to either use PDF  or RTF to preserve them.
>
> A plain text file  (.txt) obviously has a font but just one.
>
>  Currently in the Publishing Centre you can add Chapters of  Special
> text but it is just text - no  pics.
>
> Take a look at the HELP. Search the  Help Index for Publishing
>
> The options for  editing PDF files increase all the time. You used
>  to have to have the full Adobe PDF. There are alternatives  now.
>
> Legacy has great reporting options but  ultimately, it's a family
> histo ry database, not a  fully fledged word processor.
>
> Since Legacy  8 Deluxe is currently selling for $19.95 perhaps its
>   worth the investment. OR recover your Legacy 7. You can  download
> it again (look for a previous versions  link on the Download page)
> and the sales staff at  Legacy would give you your Customer Code to
> unlock  the deluxe features again if you've lost that.  There have
>   been some change to reports between 7 and 8 but not  substantial
> ones to do with the questions you are  asking.
>
> You can have Legacy 7 and 8  installed on a computer at the same
> time. Legacy 7  installs to a different place. Do not install
>  Legacy 7 into Program files. Legacy 8 is installed into Program
>   Files by default
>
>  Cathy
>
> Linda  wrote:
>>
>> Lets say I have an event -  The Battle of Cowpens with a
>> description  of
>> that battle and a picture - and I have more  than one person that was
>> in that  battle.
>> I would like a page in my book t hat  shows that picture and the
>> description of the  event, and possibly tells all of the people that
>>   were involved in that event. I want the page titled "Battle of  the
>> Cowpens"
>> I  have several of these in my FTM book that are in the beginning  of
>> the book - not with any particular person. I  have other "events"
>> such
>>   as historic churches that many people in my tree went to and  a
>> page on
>>  historic events such as "The Great Fire of Chicago" that I  don't
>> need
>>  attached to any particular person but I need to put a picture  (or
>> two)
>> and  some information about the event.
>> I had Legacy  Deluxe 7.x a few years back. 

Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8

[johnbernacki1]

Pictures can be inserted into Word documents where you can also annotate or 
explain them. Therefore an option for books (including printed ones) appears to 
be:

Use Legacy “Publish Centre” to organise chapters and use the “Place Holder” 
option for Word documents which are to be inserted after saving the book as an 
RTF, then as Word. The whole thing could then be saved as a PDF.

This would require more playing around but may produce a great result.

John


From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 11:27 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8

Linda,

You can share events in Legacy so if your Battle of Cowpens event was shared, 
it would report all the people it was shared with.
But I don't think that is what you are describing.
To add the pages you refer to, you'd have to add them in an RTF version of the 
report.

You can change fonts and have different fonts for different elements BUT you 
need to either use PDF or RTF to preserve them.

A plain text file (.txt) obviously has a font but just one.

Currently in the Publishing Centre you can add Chapters of Special text but it 
is just text - no pics.

Take a look at the HELP. Search the Help Index for Publishing

The options for editing PDF files increase all the time. You used to have to 
have the full Adobe PDF. There are alternatives now.

Legacy has great reporting options but ultimately, it's a family histo ry 
database, not a fully fledged word processor.

Since Legacy 8 Deluxe is currently selling for $19.95 perhaps its worth the 
investment. OR recover your Legacy 7. You can download it again (look for a 
previous versions link on the Download page) and the sales staff at Legacy 
would give you your Customer Code to unlock the deluxe features again if you've 
lost that.  There have been some change to reports between 7 and 8 but not 
substantial ones to do with the questions you are asking.

You can have Legacy 7 and 8 installed on a computer at the same time. Legacy 7 
installs to a different place. Do not install Legacy 7 into Program files. 
Legacy 8 is installed into Program Files by default

Cathy

Linda wrote:


  Lets say I have an event - The Battle of Cowpens with a description of
  that battle and a picture - and I have more than one person that was
  in that battle.
  I would like a page in my book t hat shows that picture and the
  description of the event, and possibly tells all of the people that
  were involved in that event. I want the page titled "Battle of the
  Cowpens"
  I have several of these in my FTM book that are in the beginning of
  the book - not with any particular person. I have other "events" such
  as historic churches that many people in my tree went to and a page on
  historic events such as "The Great Fire of Chicago" that I don't need
  attached to any particular person but I need to put a picture (or two)
  and some information about the event.
  I had Legacy Deluxe 7.x a few years back. I don't have it on my
  computer now so I can't remember exactly what it did or didn't do. I
  don't want to buy 8 Deluxe until I'm sure it's what I want. It seems
  like in 7 if I used a text report I couldn't change the font, enlarge
  fonts or change text alignment. Forgive me if I remembering wrong. But
  can I do th ose things in 8?
  I downloaded 8 free but much is disabled and I haven't had time to
  examine everything that I'm curious about yet.
  I know there are workarounds (creating blank pages, making pages in
  another program) but I send this pdf book out often and I like it to
  be current with any new information and I would like to just be able
  to go to the book publishing and export to pdf and it be
  complete...I'm not even sure how I'd add pages from another program
  into a pdf that was created with Legacy :-)
  Thanks for the responses in helping me make my decision.
  -- Original Message --
  From: "Leon Chapman" >
  To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
  
  Sent: 12/10/2015 9:03:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8


Linda:

I have published 4 genealogy family hard cover books of over 300
pages each. I am currently in the process of publishing another
family book. When you get ready, I can send you information about how
I published my books with all the steps.

Here are some of the answers to your questions:

>>>1. Is there anything comparable to FTM's smart stories in Legacy?

*I don't know anything about smart stories in FTM - so cannot comment*


>>>2. In the text report can I insert pictures? If not is there a
report where I can basically type a few paragraphs of information
with at least some basic formatting options (font, font size, center
or left alignment) and also add a few photos that I can size/resize
as I want.


*You can attach one picture 

Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8

[Robert57P_gmail]

Should not matter what word processor you use.  If you save them as RTF
(Rich Text Format), then most major word processors can work with them.
Then, after you've modified it with your word processor, save it in your
word processor's native format (to save any special formatting & etc)
and print them to a PDF (or, if your word processor supports it, save it
to a PDF).

Bob


On 12/13/2015 19:40, mvmc...@aol.com wrote:
> What happens if you don't use Word? I use Corel's Word Perfect.
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
> __
> CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for
> Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified
> genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name
> is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
>
> In a message dated 2015-12-13 7:33:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au writes:
>
> Pictures can be inserted into Word documents where you can also
> annotate or explain them. Therefore an option for books (including
> printed ones) appears to be:
>
> Use Legacy “Publish Centre” to organise chapters and use the
> “Place Holder” option for Word documents which are to be inserted
> after saving the book as an RTF, then as Word. The whole thing
> could then be saved as a PDF.
>
> This would require more playing around but may produce a great result.
>
> John
>
> *From:* Cathy Pinner 
> *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 11:27 AM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8
> Linda,
>
> You can share events in Legacy so if your Battle of Cowpens event
> was shared, it would report all the people it was shared with.
> But I don't think that is what you are describing.
> To add the pages you refer to, you'd have to add them in an RTF
> version of the report.
>
> You can change fonts and have different fonts for different
> elements BUT you need to either use PDF or RTF to preserve them.
>
> A plain text file (.txt) obviously has a font but just one.
>
> Currently in the Publishing Centre you can add Chapters of Special
> text but it is just text - no pics.
>
> Take a look at the HELP. Search the Help Index for Publishing
>
> The options for editing PDF files increase all the time. You used
> to have to have the full Adobe PDF. There are alternatives now.
>
> Legacy has great reporting options but ultimately, it's a family
> histo ry database, not a fully fledged word processor.
>
> Since Legacy 8 Deluxe is currently selling for $19.95 perhaps its
> worth the investment. OR recover your Legacy 7. You can download
> it again (look for a previous versions link on the Download page)
> and the sales staff at Legacy would give you your Customer Code to
> unlock the deluxe features again if you've lost that.  There have
> been some change to reports between 7 and 8 but not substantial
> ones to do with the questions you are asking.
>
> You can have Legacy 7 and 8 installed on a computer at the same
> time. Legacy 7 installs to a different place. Do not install
> Legacy 7 into Program files. Legacy 8 is installed into Program
> Files by default
>
> Cathy
>
> Linda wrote:
>>
>> Lets say I have an event - The Battle of Cowpens with a
>> description of
>> that battle and a picture - and I have more than one person that was
>> in that battle.
>> I would like a page in my book t hat shows that picture and the
>> description of the event, and possibly tells all of the people that
>> were involved in that event. I want the page titled "Battle of the
>> Cowpens"
>> I have several of these in my FTM book that are in the beginning of
>> the book - not with any particular person. I have other "events"
>> such
>> as historic churches that many people in my tree went to and a
>> page on
>> historic events such as "The Great Fire of Chicago" that I don't
>> need
>> attached to any particular person but I need to put a picture (or
>> two)
>> and some information about the event.
>> I had Legacy Deluxe 7.x a few years back. I don't have it on my
>> computer now so I can't remember exactly what it did or didn't do. I
>> don't want to buy 8 Deluxe until I'm sure it's what I want. It seems
>> like in 7 if I used a text report I couldn't change the font,
>> enlarge
>> fonts or change text alignment. Forgive me if I remembering
>> wrong. But
>> can I do th ose things in 8?
>> I downloaded 8 free but much is disabled and I haven't had time to
>> examine everything that I'm curious about yet.
>> I know there are workarounds 

Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[BARTON LEWIS]

Carolyn, when you say "manual," are you referring to "Legacy Charting"
accessed from the Help Tab within Legacy?


Thanks,


Barton

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:






I agree with Ana on this one, I find the Legacy wording too stilted, but
its so easy to create the report and then drop it into a word document.


Looking at the sample from Linda, which is very nice, Legacy will also
allow you to add your own background to a chart or tree.


I created a dropline chart with a photo of each person, and used an old
sepia photo of the street the family lived in as a background.


When this was faded a little it looked really good and has wowed all the
rellies.


 


I found the charting chapter in the manual very helpful for this, and
creating other customised charts.


 


Carolyn






 


 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[Carolyn]

No, I am referring to the PDF copy of the Legacy Manual that I paid for with 
the V8 upgrade.
You will see from the Legacy home page that one option is the V8 download only, 
another is V8 + PDF Manual. I believe they are on special at the moment, but 
this may have ended.
It has several really good examples and graphics for the creation of charts, in 
my case I learn best by seeing other peoples examples.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[Ana]

I have used Legacy to produce several books which I published.  I have
Legacy produce the report with all the facts & folks organized & I save it
as an .rtf document. This Legacy does very well!  I like to personalize my
report.

Thus I can bring it up in word and adjust the wording & format to my
liking.   I can insert other Legacy charts & reports, photographs, timeline
or history articles - anything that helps to outline the genealogy I am
projecting.

For myself, the Legacy Publishing Center tries too hard to be everything to
everybody & its reports become robotic and overly generic. That is just my
opinion & I respect that many folks love it.

I find (in my opinion) Roots Magic & other genealogy programs have the same
broad in content or stilted feel.


On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Linda  wrote:

> I thought I'd show you a sample portion of one of my books from FTM.
>
> http://ge.tt/950yFXT2/v/0?c
>
> I've been looking at both Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 and I don't doubt for a
> moment they both do more than enough when it comes to recording my family
> history.  But for me I need to produce a book that looks clean and nice.
> In looking at both RM and Legacy8 (both in trial versions) I'm not
> satisfied that either will allow me to make reports like I want.  I know
> some features are disabled and I may find that I can do more than I
> anticipate with a full version.  I know both are cheap and some say just
> buy both but I am not in a position to spend money on a program I won't be
> using.  I want to be able to produce the book without much effort when I
> make additions to my family tree/history.
>
> I looked at the family group sheet in both RM and Legacy 8.  Neither
> looked like they would produce the clean look of the one I have in my pdf.
>
> Also, I think the pedigree chart background and having pics of each person
> makes it nice to look at.
>
> And I need to be able to make pages such as you see in this book: Chicago
> Fire, Castle Garden Immigration, etc. - these are not connected to any
> person.  In FTM you can make a text page and copy and paste pictures onto
> it.
>
> I do have to say that I like the cleaner, less complicated feel of
> Rootsmagic but I feel like Legacy will be closer to what I need for book
> publishing.
>
> I do appreciate your patience and kindness in talking to me about these
> things.  I know FTM will probably work for many years and maybe I just need
> to be patient and see what comes down the road.  I just don't want to put a
> lot more effort into something I know I will have to totally redo when I
> move to another program (the books, the family history portion at first
> glance seems to have imported fairly well).
>
> Thank you again!
>
> Linda
>
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[BARTON LEWIS]

Thank you.  I already have 8.  I went to the home page and in Legacy
Products there is Legacy Family Tree 8 User's Guide 

for $7.95.  I am guessing that is it.  


Barton

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Carolyn wrote:






No, I am referring to the PDF copy of the Legacy Manual that I paid for
with the V8 upgrade.


You will see from the Legacy home page that one option is the V8
download
only, another is V8 + PDF Manual. I believe they are on special at the
moment,
but this may have ended.


It has several really good examples and graphics for the creation of
charts, in my case I learn best by seeing other peoples examples.


 


Carolyn




 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[carogene]

Yes thats the one, worth every cent in my opinion, so easy to refer to and
print out just the pages you need for a project, or problem.
Carolyn




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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[BARTON LEWIS]

okay, thanks for the confirm.  I'm getting it.


Barton

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 10:58 PM, carogene wrote:

Yes thats the one, worth every cent in my opinion, so easy to refer to
and print out just the pages you need for a project, or problem.

Carolyn



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to decide between Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 (or just stay with FTM for now)

[M Sandvig]

Well, TMG the Master Genealogist will go 'Open Source' in about 18 months.

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Ana  wrote:

> I have used Legacy to produce several books which I published.  I have
> Legacy produce the report with all the facts & folks organized & I save it
> as an .rtf document. This Legacy does very well!  I like to personalize
> my report.
>
> Thus I can bring it up in word and adjust the wording & format to my
> liking.   I can insert other Legacy charts & reports, photographs, timeline
> or history articles - anything that helps to outline the genealogy I am
> projecting.
>
> For myself, the Legacy Publishing Center tries too hard to be everything
> to everybody & its reports become robotic and overly generic. That is just
> my opinion & I respect that many folks love it.
>
> I find (in my opinion) Roots Magic & other genealogy programs have the
> same broad in content or stilted feel.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Linda  wrote:
>
>> I thought I'd show you a sample portion of one of my books from FTM.
>>
>> http://ge.tt/950yFXT2/v/0?c
>>
>> I've been looking at both Rootsmagic and Legacy 8 and I don't doubt for a
>> moment they both do more than enough when it comes to recording my family
>> history.  But for me I need to produce a book that looks clean and nice.
>> In looking at both RM and Legacy8 (both in trial versions) I'm not
>> satisfied that either will allow me to make reports like I want.  I know
>> some features are disabled and I may find that I can do more than I
>> anticipate with a full version.  I know both are cheap and some say just
>> buy both but I am not in a position to spend money on a program I won't be
>> using.  I want to be able to produce the book without much effort when I
>> make additions to my family tree/history.
>>
>> I looked at the family group sheet in both RM and Legacy 8.  Neither
>> looked like they would produce the clean look of the one I have in my pdf.
>>
>> Also, I think the pedigree chart background and having pics of each
>> person makes it nice to look at.
>>
>> And I need to be able to make pages such as you see in this book: Chicago
>> Fire, Castle Garden Immigration, etc. - these are not connected to any
>> person.  In FTM you can make a text page and copy and paste pictures onto
>> it.
>>
>> I do have to say that I like the cleaner, less complicated feel of
>> Rootsmagic but I feel like Legacy will be closer to what I need for book
>> publishing.
>>
>> I do appreciate your patience and kindness in talking to me about these
>> things.  I know FTM will probably work for many years and maybe I just need
>> to be patient and see what comes down the road.  I just don't want to put a
>> lot more effort into something I know I will have to totally redo when I
>> move to another program (the books, the family history portion at first
>> glance seems to have imported fairly well).
>>
>> Thank you again!
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> 
>>  This
>> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast.
>> www.avast.com
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