Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?

[Carol Boswell]

We use Open Office at our Family History Center.  The documents and 
spreadsheets have so far been easily edited back and forth with Microsoft 
Office.  Sorry to have gone so off topic from Legacy.  

Carol

Sent from my iPad

> On May 19, 2016, at 8:08 PM, smm  wrote:
> 
> I have been using OpenOffice for years, and would NEVER resort to M$Word 
> again.
> 
> Sue
> 
>> On 5/19/2016 5:49 PM, Carol Boswell   wrote:
>> Greetings, John,
>> 
>> By now you may have read Gerald's criticism of my complaint about Word.  
>> This is my reply to him:
>> 
>> I am glad that you have had no issue with Word.  My experience was extremely 
>> frustrating and not unusual based on my contact with BYU Press, which was 
>> printing my book.  I've worked with Word since 1993 both professionally and 
>> at home and am very familiar with it.  No problem until working on this 
>> large manuscript.  After each careful reading of the document before 
>> submission for a proof and each reading after the proof brought up new 
>> errors.  
>> 
>> WordPerfect is more stable and much easier to work with, especially with 
>> added photographs.  
>> 
>> I wish you well with both programs and with your continued efforts in 
>> genealogy.
>> 
>> Carol Boswell
>> 
>> That said, I did not attempt to save Legacy as a Word document.  The history 
>> I wrote of my grandparents was 122 pages and included many photos.  It was 
>> written as a narrative.  
>> 
>> I did add family group sheets and a pedigree chart, and a chronology at the 
>> end in the appendices generated by Legacy and had no problem with them.  
>> 
>> Before writing another history, I'll explore https://historylines.com/, 
>> RootsMagic's Personal Historian, WordPerfect.  I've also had great success 
>> with Legacy's Ancestor Book and appreciate the fact that events and 
>> photographs added to Legacy appear magically in the document.
>> 
>> Your efforts with the Sylfaen font are intriguing and an extra mile project. 
>> Good success to you!
>> 
>> Carol Boswell 
>> 
>> .  
>> 
>> From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>> Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 10:22:39 +1000
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
>> 
>> Hi Carol,
>> 
>> Thank you for the tip. May I ask what kind of errors you found when saving 
>> Legacy as a Word document? e.g. page layout such as line spacing or problems 
>> with the index for names or places etc.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>  
>> From: Carol Boswell
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 1:30 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
>>  
>> May I just add that after printing a book in Word that Word is unstable for 
>> large documents?  Editing something on
>> one page seemed to magically cause errors on other pages, even though I kept 
>> the same opening and ending sentences on the pages.  It was an exercise in 
>> frustration to edit and re-edit with new errors appearing each time.
>>  
>> Others may have better software to suggest.
>>  
>> Carol Boswell
>> 
>> > From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
>> > To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>> > Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:44:56 +1000
>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
>> > 
>> > Hi Brian,
>> > 
>> > Thank you- it worked.
>> > 
>> > I am very aware that Legacy does not work with Eastern European special 
>> > characteristics or diacritics. It is my only gripe with Legacy which 
>> > appears 
>> > to be the best genealogy program in every other way.
>> > For now at least, I can use Sylfaen font with English words. When I am 
>> > about 
>> > publish my book, I will have to save it as Word document, then 
>> > painstakingly 
>> > search and replace all “English spellings” of the Eastern European names 
>> > of 
>> > people and places, with the correct spellings. At least a suitable font 
>> > will 
>> > be ready to go. Sylfaen does diacritics beautifully.
>> > 
>> > John
>> > 
>> > -Original Message- 
>> > From: Brian L. Lightfoot
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:28 AM
>> > To: 'Legacy User Group'
>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
>> > 
>> > I hit the send button too quick and meant to include a precautionary
>> > statement at the end. When Brian with Customer Support says Legacy does not
>> > support the Eastern European character sets, he means just that. Thus, if
>> > you force Legacy to use one such font, then there is no guarantee exactly
>> > what may happen on display, printed output, formatting, etc. Let the user
>> > beware. I was merely pointing out a way to allow the user to look at such
>> > fonts and test them out on their own.
>> > 
>> > Brian in CA
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
>> > Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:24 AM
>> > To: 'Legacy User Group'
>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
>> > 
>> > Upon further review, the ruling on the field is 

Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?

[smm]

I have been using OpenOffice for years, and would NEVER resort to M$Word 
again.


Sue


On 5/19/2016 5:49 PM, Carol Boswell wrote:

Greetings, John,

By now you may have read Gerald's criticism of my complaint about 
Word.  This is my reply to him:


/I am glad that you have had no issue with Word.  My experience
was extremely frustrating and not unusual based on my contact with
BYU Press, which was printing my book.  I've worked with Word
since 1993 both professionally and at home and am very familiar
with it.  No problem until working on this large manuscript.
 After each careful reading of the document before submission for
a proof and each reading after the proof brought up new errors. /
/
/
/WordPerfect is more stable and much easier to work with,
especially with added photographs. /
/
/
/I wish you well with both programs and with your continued
efforts in genealogy./
/
/
/Carol Boswell/


That said, I did not attempt to save Legacy as a Word document.  The 
history I wrote of my grandparents was 122 pages and included many 
photos.  It was written as a narrative.


I did add family group sheets and a pedigree chart, and a chronology 
at the end in the appendices generated by Legacy and had no problem 
with them.


Before writing another history, I'll explore 
https://historylines.com/, RootsMagic's Personal Historian, 
WordPerfect.  I've also had great success with Legacy's Ancestor Book 
and appreciate the fact that events and photographs added to Legacy 
appear magically in the document.


Your efforts with the Sylfaen font are intriguing and an extra mile 
project. Good success to you!


Carol Boswell

.


From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 10:22:39 +1000
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?

Hi Carol,

Thank you for the tip. May I ask what kind of errors you found when 
saving Legacy as a Word document? e.g. page layout such as line 
spacing or problems with the index for names or places etc.


John

*From:* Carol Boswell 
*Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2016 1:30 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
May I just add that after printing a book in Word that Word is 
unstable for large documents?  Editing something on
one page seemed to magically cause errors on other pages, even though 
I kept the same opening and ending sentences on the pages.  It was an 
exercise in frustration to edit and re-edit with new errors appearing 
each time.

Others may have better software to suggest.
Carol Boswell

> From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:44:56 +1000
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> Thank you- it worked.
>
> I am very aware that Legacy does not work with Eastern European special
> characteristics or diacritics. It is my only gripe with Legacy which 
appears

> to be the best genealogy program in every other way.
> For now at least, I can use Sylfaen font with English words. When I 
am about
> publish my book, I will have to save it as Word document, then 
painstakingly
> search and replace all “English spellings” of the Eastern European 
names of
> people and places, with the correct spellings. At least a suitable 
font will

> be ready to go. Sylfaen does diacritics beautifully.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian L. Lightfoot
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:28 AM
> To: 'Legacy User Group'
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
>
> I hit the send button too quick and meant to include a precautionary
> statement at the end. When Brian with Customer Support says Legacy 
does not
> support the Eastern European character sets, he means just that. 
Thus, if
> you force Legacy to use one such font, then there is no guarantee 
exactly
> what may happen on display, printed output, formatting, etc. Let the 
user
> beware. I was merely pointing out a way to allow the user to look at 
such

> fonts and test them out on their own.
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On

> Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:24 AM
> To: 'Legacy User Group'
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
>
> Upon further review, the ruling on the field is reversed. The 
Sylfaen font

> can indeed be used with Legacy. It all depends upon the language setting
> within Windows (not everybody in the world uses English as their primary
> language).
>
> There are one or two minor things that the user needs to have set in 
their

> Windows Control Panel. Within Windows 7 (not sure if Win10 is the same
> procedure but probably similar), go to Control Panel, Appearance and
> Personalization (if viewing the 

Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?

[Carol Boswell]

Greetings, John,
By now you may have read Gerald's criticism of my complaint about Word.  This 
is my reply to him:
I am glad that you have had no issue with Word.  My experience was extremely 
frustrating and not unusual based on my contact with BYU Press, which was 
printing my book.  I've worked with Word since 1993 both professionally and at 
home and am very familiar with it.  No problem until working on this large 
manuscript.  After each careful reading of the document before submission for a 
proof and each reading after the proof brought up new errors.  WordPerfect is 
more stable and much easier to work with, especially with added photographs.  I 
wish you well with both programs and with your continued efforts in 
genealogy.Carol Boswell
That said, I did not attempt to save Legacy as a Word document.  The history I 
wrote of my grandparents was 122 pages and included many photos.  It was 
written as a narrative.  
I did add family group sheets and a pedigree chart, and a chronology at the end 
in the appendices generated by Legacy and had no problem with them.  
Before writing another history, I'll explore https://historylines.com/, 
RootsMagic's Personal Historian, WordPerfect.  I've also had great success with 
Legacy's Ancestor Book and appreciate the fact that events and photographs 
added to Legacy appear magically in the document.
Your efforts with the Sylfaen font are intriguing and an extra mile project. 
Good success to you!
Carol Boswell 
.  
From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 10:22:39 +1000
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?







Hi Carol, 
Thank you for the tip. May I ask what 
kind of errors you found when saving Legacy as a Word document? e.g. page 
layout 
such as line spacing or problems with the index for names or places 
etc.
John


 

From: Carol Boswell 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 1:30 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
 

May I just add that after printing a book in Word that Word is 
unstable for large documents?  Editing something on 
one page seemed to magically cause errors on other pages, even though I 
kept the same opening and ending sentences on the pages.  It was an 
exercise in frustration to edit and re-edit with new errors appearing each 
time.
 
Others may have better software to suggest.
 
Carol Boswell


> From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
> To: 
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:44:56 
+1000
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
> 
> Hi 
Brian,
> 
> Thank you- it worked.
> 
> I am very aware 
that Legacy does not work with Eastern European special 
> characteristics 
or diacritics. It is my only gripe with Legacy which appears 
> to be the 
best genealogy program in every other way.
> For now at least, I can use 
Sylfaen font with English words. When I am about 
> publish my book, I 
will have to save it as Word document, then painstakingly 
> search and 
replace all “English spellings” of the Eastern European names of 
> people 
and places, with the correct spellings. At least a suitable font will 
> 
be ready to go. Sylfaen does diacritics beautifully.
> 
> 
John
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Brian L. 
Lightfoot
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:28 AM
> To: 'Legacy User 
Group'
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
> 
> I 
hit the send button too quick and meant to include a precautionary
> 
statement at the end. When Brian with Customer Support says Legacy does 
not
> support the Eastern European character sets, he means just that. 
Thus, if
> you force Legacy to use one such font, then there is no 
guarantee exactly
> what may happen on display, printed output, 
formatting, etc. Let the user
> beware. I was merely pointing out a way to 
allow the user to look at such
> fonts and test them out on their 
own.
> 
> Brian in CA
> 
> 
> -Original 
Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Brian L. 
Lightfoot
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:24 AM
> To: 'Legacy User 
Group'
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
> 
> Upon 
further review, the ruling on the field is reversed. The Sylfaen font
> 
can indeed be used with Legacy. It all depends upon the language setting
> 
within Windows (not everybody in the world uses English as their primary
> 
language).
> 
> There are one or two minor things that the user 
needs to have set in their
> Windows Control Panel. Within Windows 7 (not 
sure if Win10 is the same
> procedure but probably similar), go to Control 
Panel, Appearance and
> Personalization (if viewing the Category method), 
Fonts, and then Font
> Settings. In that window, click on the box to 
remove the checkmark from
> "Hide fonts based on language settings". 
Restart Legacy and the Sylfaen font
> appears in the drop down lists 
within Legacy's customization choices.
> 
> As Brian with Customer 
Support mentioned, this font 

Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?

[johnbernacki1]

Hi Carol, 

Thank you for the tip. May I ask what kind of errors you found when saving 
Legacy as a Word document? e.g. page layout such as line spacing or problems 
with the index for names or places etc.

John


From: Carol Boswell 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 1:30 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?

May I just add that after printing a book in Word that Word is unstable for 
large documents?  Editing something on 
one page seemed to magically cause errors on other pages, even though I kept 
the same opening and ending sentences on the pages.  It was an exercise in 
frustration to edit and re-edit with new errors appearing each time.

Others may have better software to suggest.

Carol Boswell


> From: johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:44:56 +1000
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Thank you- it worked.
> 
> I am very aware that Legacy does not work with Eastern European special 
> characteristics or diacritics. It is my only gripe with Legacy which appears 
> to be the best genealogy program in every other way.
> For now at least, I can use Sylfaen font with English words. When I am about 
> publish my book, I will have to save it as Word document, then painstakingly 
> search and replace all “English spellings” of the Eastern European names of 
> people and places, with the correct spellings. At least a suitable font will 
> be ready to go. Sylfaen does diacritics beautifully.
> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Brian L. Lightfoot
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:28 AM
> To: 'Legacy User Group'
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
> 
> I hit the send button too quick and meant to include a precautionary
> statement at the end. When Brian with Customer Support says Legacy does not
> support the Eastern European character sets, he means just that. Thus, if
> you force Legacy to use one such font, then there is no guarantee exactly
> what may happen on display, printed output, formatting, etc. Let the user
> beware. I was merely pointing out a way to allow the user to look at such
> fonts and test them out on their own.
> 
> Brian in CA
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:24 AM
> To: 'Legacy User Group'
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
> 
> Upon further review, the ruling on the field is reversed. The Sylfaen font
> can indeed be used with Legacy. It all depends upon the language setting
> within Windows (not everybody in the world uses English as their primary
> language).
> 
> There are one or two minor things that the user needs to have set in their
> Windows Control Panel. Within Windows 7 (not sure if Win10 is the same
> procedure but probably similar), go to Control Panel, Appearance and
> Personalization (if viewing the Category method), Fonts, and then Font
> Settings. In that window, click on the box to remove the checkmark from
> "Hide fonts based on language settings". Restart Legacy and the Sylfaen font
> appears in the drop down lists within Legacy's customization choices.
> 
> As Brian with Customer Support mentioned, this font is based on a different
> language other than English. If the user changed their language setting of
> Windows from the Control Panel to something other than English, then the
> Sylfaen font would automatically appear depending upon which language was
> chosen that supported that font.
> 
> BTW, I tried just the method of un-hiding all fonts, then selected Sylfaen
> without changing my English language settings, and then within Legacy
> selected Sylfaen and it all seems to look just fine. To me, it's merely
> another serif based font similar to Times New Roman.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
> Brian in CA
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Brian/Support
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:27 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] add font to Legacy?
> 
> After my last message I went looking in my Windows and discovered that
> Sylfaen font is a standard Windows font. The Sylfaen font is used for
> Cyrillic, Greek and Eastern European languages, Legacy does not support the
> Eastern European character sets though so I will have to change my answer to
> No, you cannot add the Sylfaen font to Legacy.
> 
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 17-May-16 11:09 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
> > Is there a way to add the "Sylfaen" font to the Legacy fonts?
> >
> > John
> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
> 
> 
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