[LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

[DonnaMR]

I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after the 
merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched for some 
of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me see without 
an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.

I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the versions.  I 
do not used the search features; I just want good software that lets me 
document names and personal data, events, and sources in an efficient manner, 
and then lets me print useful and well-formatted reports.  I also use it to 
create webpages for my own family history website.  I don’t upload family trees 
to sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage or Genii.  I want a website that shows 
complete source documentation and event notes that are as long as I want.   The 
thing I would like Legacy is to allow drag and drop on the webpages instead of 
just source code.  I have tried TNG more than once, including having them set 
it up, etc., and then paying someone to help a bit, but I just can’t master it. 
 Legacy webpages are easy for the reader to maneuver, and I like that 
uncluttered aspect.

Through the years I have tried most of the other genealogy software, but Legacy 
has fit my needs better than any.   I do genealogy research on a client basis 
also, and I use Legacy if the project is large enough to merit it.  It creates 
footnotes for me to paste into the narrative report I write for the client, as 
well as printing reports when needed and creating a simple family tree for the 
client, if the project is large enough.  I create a family file and point them 
to the Legacy free download so they can see literally all my research.

I am hoping for the best.

Donna
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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[David Cripps]

On 5/08/2017 11:39 AM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> Did someone say that My Heritage "wanted" Legacy.  Or did Legacy want
> to get out of the business.  I did not see anything to support either.
> Perhaps My Heritage wants the data that we have,  It is the only thing
> of Value that I can think of.  You will notice how Ancestry added 150
> Million records to its service with the absorption of FAG. 
>
> Ian
>
They were my first thoughts too Ian, and I was mollified a bit by
Legacy's new posting at:
http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-family-tree-has-a-new-home-with-myheritage.html

My concern is that at aged 64 years, I want legacy to still be around,
at least into my old age where I can say to my grandchildren, ok here it
is, now it's over to you.

Ancestry's resources easily tops My Heritage, so that is of a major
concern, but then as the above link states, FTM was flogged off to the
Ukraine.   Everything boils down to money I suppose, until we can get
software that'll write itself, but in giving us a healthy discount
(for registered Legacy users), maybe My Heritage is thinking beyond the
dollar.
Ancestry meanwhile is happy to make the money, but doesn't give
discounts to family tree contributors, my chief reason for sticking with
Worldconnect all these years.

I'll be happy to sit back and see what happens; realistically what other
choice do I have.

I'm interested in this topic though.

Cheers
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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Ian Macaulay]

Did someone say that My Heritage "wanted" Legacy.  Or did Legacy want to
get out of the business.  I did not see anything to support either.
Perhaps My Heritage wants the data that we have,  It is the only thing of
Value that I can think of.  You will notice how Ancestry added 150 Million
records to its service with the absorption of FAG.

Ian


On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:39 PM,  wrote:

> I do not know about computer programming but I think it would have been
> better for all if Millennia had bitten the bullet a long time ago to update
> its technology to handle Unicode etc. I imagine the longer it has been left
> while adding more “bells and whistles”, the harder it has become to rewrite
> Legacy on new technology.
>
> Nations like US and Australia are very multicultural and increasingly so.
> To me, Unicode should be a core feature of any family history software.
> Meanwhile bells and whistles like graphs or plotting of migration or
> nationality are very inaccurate and gimmicky for people with ancestors from
> parts of the world where borders have frequently changed. The same person
> can have a “nationality” different to their ethnicity or language. They may
> have lived in the same location for their whole life but lived in several
> countries due to border changes etc. If you really want to know about your
> ancestors and their lives, you need research the history of the specific
> town/s they lived in. Many of the names will require Unicode. Even then,
> care must be taken because sometimes many different towns can have the same
> name. Therefore Google Maps can lead you astray- another reason why
> plotting locations can be very inaccurate or gimmicky.
>
> MyHeritage has Unicode and users from all over the world. It is hard to
> imagine why they would want Legacy unless they intend to rewrite it with
> Unicode or scrap it altogether. Since there is no intention to include
> Unicode in Legacy 10, maybe the latter is their intention. But who knows-
> reality is often stranger than fiction.
>
> If MyHeritage rewrites or changes Legacy, I only hopes it keeps its
> various screen views- uncluttered, aesthetically pleasing, easy to follow
> and navigate, easy to explain things to people who not family historians or
> genealogists etc.
>
> John
>
> *From:* Chris Hill 
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 05, 2017 4:54 AM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
>
>
> According to Microsoft’s support, the tools are not capable of converting
> an application automatically. So they will still have to work through it
> and make to work as required.
>
>
>
> Better to start again with a new program, VB or C#.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sherry
> *Sent:* 04 August 2017 16:01
> *To:* Brian Kelly 
> *Cc:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
>
>
>
> They've been saying that for years! I'd think there are tools to help with
> the conversion.
>
>
> S.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:
>
> But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will mean a
> complete rewrite from the ground up.
>
> That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest the money
> to do that by hiring a team of programmers it will not happen.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:
>
>  You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli
> company...Sherry
>
>  Original message 
> From: Brian Kelly 
> Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
> To: Legacy Test , Legacy User Group <
> LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
>
> Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia
> and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.
>
> Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not
> support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic
> application.
>
> I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework
> and Unicode.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[johnbernacki1]

I do not know about computer programming but I think it would have been better 
for all if Millennia had bitten the bullet a long time ago to update its 
technology to handle Unicode etc. I imagine the longer it has been left while 
adding more “bells and whistles”, the harder it has become to rewrite Legacy on 
new technology.

Nations like US and Australia are very multicultural and increasingly so. To 
me, Unicode should be a core feature of any family history software. Meanwhile 
bells and whistles like graphs or plotting of migration or nationality are very 
inaccurate and gimmicky for people with ancestors from parts of the world where 
borders have frequently changed. The same person can have a “nationality” 
different to their ethnicity or language. They may have lived in the same 
location for their whole life but lived in several countries due to border 
changes etc. If you really want to know about your ancestors and their lives, 
you need research the history of the specific town/s they lived in. Many of the 
names will require Unicode. Even then, care must be taken because sometimes 
many different towns can have the same name. Therefore Google Maps can lead you 
astray- another reason why plotting locations can be very inaccurate or 
gimmicky. 

MyHeritage has Unicode and users from all over the world. It is hard to imagine 
why they would want Legacy unless they intend to rewrite it with Unicode or 
scrap it altogether. Since there is no intention to include Unicode in Legacy 
10, maybe the latter is their intention. But who knows- reality is often 
stranger than fiction. 

If MyHeritage rewrites or changes Legacy, I only hopes it keeps its various 
screen views- uncluttered, aesthetically pleasing, easy to follow and navigate, 
easy to explain things to people who not family historians or genealogists etc.

John


From: Chris Hill 
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 4:54 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

According to Microsoft’s support, the tools are not capable of converting an 
application automatically. So they will still have to work through it and make 
to work as required.

 

Better to start again with a new program, VB or C#.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: 04 August 2017 16:01
To: Brian Kelly 
Cc: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

 

They've been saying that for years! I'd think there are tools to help with the 
conversion.


S.

 

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

  But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will mean a complete 
rewrite from the ground up.

  That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest the money to 
do that by hiring a team of programmers it will not happen.

  Brian Kelly

  On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:

 You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli 
company...Sherry

 Original message 
From: Brian Kelly 
Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
To: Legacy Test , Legacy User Group 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia
and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.

Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not
support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic
application.

I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework
and Unicode.

Brian Kelly

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Re: [LegacyUG] Starting Individual for Gedcom Files

[Cathy Pinner]

Normally when you upload a gedcom you are asked for the home person or 
to say which person you are ... Check the settings on the website where 
you've uploaded your gedcom.


I don't think you can assure you're the first person in the gedcom.

Cathy

RoadRoy wrote:


Legacy 9 Help file does not address how to designate the starting
individual for a Gedcom file.

When I generate a gedcom file starting with me as the selected
individual the first individual is not me. It is a distant cousin.
This causes a problem when I upload the gedcom file to the DNA
testers. When one clicks on the gedcom file, my profile does not
appear, the distant cousin pops up.

How can I assure I am the first individual in the gedcom?

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Re: [LegacyUG] master source list

[Cathy Pinner]

Laurie,
That's your choice.
I mostly find obituaries in newspapers so I use my Master Source for 
that newspaper.
If I had other sources for obituaries I'd have a Master Source for each 
obituary database.

I guess I'm a partial "lumper" when it comes to Master Sources.
A total "lumper" would have one Master Source regardless of where the 
obituary was from and put the all the information in the Source Detail. 
I don't like doing that as it requires too much repetition in data entry.
A total "splitter" would have one Master Source per obituary and not use 
the Source Detail at all.

Again for me too much repetition in data entry.

Cathy

Laurie G wrote:


Does the category "obituaries" belong on the master source list, with
the details changing for each person for whom you have an obituary, or
does the obituary for EACH person belong on the master source list
(such as Smith, Charley obit, Taylor, Tom obit, etc.?)
Thanks,
Laurie
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[LegacyUG] master source list

[Laurie G]

Does the category "obituaries" belong on the master source list, with the
details changing for each person for whom you have an obituary, or does the
obituary for EACH person belong on the master source list (such as Smith,
Charley obit, Taylor, Tom obit, etc.?)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

[Jack Earnshaw]

Having created a shortcut on Desktop as was suggested, I've deleted it and
the Help is still working!! So haven't had to reboot - strange!

 

Jack

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele/Support
Sent: 04 August 2017 21:51
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

 

Jack, 

Reboot your computer and your Help File should then be active.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com   

www.legacyfamilytree.com    

 

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service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 2:54 PM
To: Legacy User Group  >
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

 

I've just upgraded to Legacy9 from 8 and can't open the Help Index - either
from the Help Tab or under Support on the Legacy Home tab. All that happens
is that it goes to a Microsoft page to diagnose why the Help app won't open

 

I'm using Windows 10 - which appears not to support the Help program

 

What is the solution pls

 

Jack

 

 

 


 
 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

[Michele/Support]

Jack, 

Reboot your computer and your Help File should then be active.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

Legacy Family Tree

  mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

  www.legacyfamilytree.com  

 

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 2:54 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

 

I've just upgraded to Legacy9 from 8 and can't open the Help Index - either
from the Help Tab or under Support on the Legacy Home tab. All that happens
is that it goes to a Microsoft page to diagnose why the Help app won't open

 

I'm using Windows 10 - which appears not to support the Help program

 

What is the solution pls

 

Jack

 

 

 


 
 

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[LegacyUG] Starting Individual for Gedcom Files

[RoadRoy]

Legacy 9 Help file does not address how to designate the starting
individual for a Gedcom file.

When I generate a gedcom file starting with me as the selected individual
the first individual is not me. It is a distant cousin. This causes a
problem when I upload the gedcom file to the DNA testers. When one clicks
on the gedcom file, my profile does not appear, the distant cousin pops up.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

Jack,

 

No, Win 10 works just fine with the MS help system and therefore Legacy 9's
help file.

 

Have you checked the Legacy 9 install directory to see that Legacy Help
(Legcay9.chm) is present? The default install location is probably
c://Program Files (x86)/Legacy9. You will find the Legacy9.chm file in that
Legacy9 folder.

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 11:54 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

 

I've just upgraded to Legacy9 from 8 and can't open the Help Index - either
from the Help Tab or under Support on the Legacy Home tab. All that happens
is that it goes to a Microsoft page to diagnose why the Help app won't open

 

I'm using Windows 10 - which appears not to support the Help program

 

What is the solution pls

 

Jack

 

 

 


 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

[Joyce Herzog]

i'm running 9 under 10 and have no problems opening Help. Perhaps you need
to do Maintenance on your file?

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Jack Earnshaw  wrote:

> I’ve just upgraded to Legacy9 from 8 and can’t open the Help Index –
> either from the Help Tab or under Support on the Legacy Home tab. All that
> happens is that it goes to a Microsoft page to diagnose why the Help app
> won’t open
>
>
>
> I’m using Windows 10 – which appears not to support the Help program
>
>
>
> What is the solution pls
>
>
>
> Jack
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Chris Hill]

According to Microsoft’s support, the tools are not capable of converting an 
application automatically. So they will still have to work through it and make 
to work as required.

 

Better to start again with a new program, VB or C#.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: 04 August 2017 16:01
To: Brian Kelly 
Cc: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

 

They've been saying that for years! I'd think there are tools to help with the 
conversion.


S.

 

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Brian Kelly  > wrote:

But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will mean a complete 
rewrite from the ground up.

That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest the money to do 
that by hiring a team of programmers it will not happen.

Brian Kelly

On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:

 You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli company...Sherry

 Original message 
From: Brian Kelly  >
Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
To: Legacy Test  
>, Legacy User Group  >
Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia
and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.

Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not
support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic
application.

I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework
and Unicode.

Brian Kelly

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[LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

[Jack Earnshaw]

I've just upgraded to Legacy9 from 8 and can't open the Help Index - either
from the Help Tab or under Support on the Legacy Home tab. All that happens
is that it goes to a Microsoft page to diagnose why the Help app won't open

 

I'm using Windows 10 - which appears not to support the Help program

 

What is the solution pls

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Brian Kelly]

Unicode is a character encoding system that can handle all the 
characters for all the languages in the world plus special characters. 
It is important to those with ancestors from Slavic/Eastern European, 
China, Japan, etc. These are areas which use alphabets that are not 
supported currently in Legacy. It may have no impact on you but many 
researchers do have ancestors whose names use these special alphabets 
and who lived in areas where place names are in those alphabets.


Adding Unicode support to Legacy will greatly expand the potential user 
base.


Brian Kelly

On 04-Aug-17 1:22 PM, JoAnne Flynn wrote:
I hate to appear completely ignorant- but what is Unicode and why is 
that important to my genealogy recording keeping software??


On Aug 4, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ian Macaulay > wrote:


If you manufacture something that thousands are using, would you cater 
to one or two special cases???


However I would be more worried about FAG.  Its Ancestry and in Direct 
competition with My Heritage.


I guess the test will be in the pudding,  But so far you can use Legacy 
as it is for as long as your Computers can run it.

If you don't like 10 than you can keep on using what you have.

I sure hope that the folks at Millennia get whats right in the way of 
Jobs and Compensation,  They have been a great organization since their 
start.


Ian


On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Leonard J. McCown > wrote:


*Apparently Millennia programmers have their priorities, but not
always the same as the users!*

*__ __*

*­*


*_*

*__ __*

*Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History*

*217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903*

*972-254-7952 *

*leon...@mccown.org**--
**http://www.mccown.org***

*People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward
to*

*their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790*


*_*

__ __

*__ __*

*From:* LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
] *On Behalf Of *Sherry
*Sent:* Friday, August 4, 2017 10:01 AM
*To:* Brian Kelly >
*Cc:* Legacy User Group >
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

__ __

They've been saying that for years! I'd think there are tools to
help with the conversion.


S.

__ __

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Brian Kelly > wrote:

But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will
mean a complete rewrite from the ground up.

That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest
the money to do that by hiring a team of programmers it will not
happen.

Brian Kelly

On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:

  You'd think that would be high on the list for an
Israeli company...Sherry

 Original message 
From: Brian Kelly >
Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
To: Legacy Test >, Legacy User Group
>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for
Millennia
and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by
MyHeritage.

Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it
will not
support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a
Visual Basic
application.

I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the
.net framework
and Unicode.

Brian Kelly

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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[JoAnne Flynn]

I hate to appear completely ignorant- but what is Unicode and why is that 
important to my genealogy recording keeping software??

On Aug 4, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ian Macaulay  wrote:

If you manufacture something that thousands are using, would you cater to one 
or two special cases???

However I would be more worried about FAG.  Its Ancestry and in Direct 
competition with My Heritage.

I guess the test will be in the pudding,  But so far you can use Legacy as it 
is for as long as your Computers can run it.
If you don't like 10 than you can keep on using what you have.  

I sure hope that the folks at Millennia get whats right in the way of Jobs and 
Compensation,  They have been a great organization since their start.

Ian


> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Leonard J. McCown  wrote:
> Apparently Millennia programmers have their priorities, but not always the 
> same as the users!
> 
>  
> 
> 
> _
> 
>  
> 
> Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History
> 
> 217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903
> 
> 972-254-7952
> 
> leon...@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org
> 
> People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to
> 
> their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790
> 
> _
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sherry
> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 10:01 AM
> To: Brian Kelly 
> Cc: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
> 
>  
> 
> They've been saying that for years! I'd think there are tools to help with 
> the conversion.
> 
> 
> S.
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:
> 
> But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will mean a complete 
> rewrite from the ground up.
> 
> That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest the money to 
> do that by hiring a team of programmers it will not happen.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
> On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:
> 
>  You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli 
> company...Sherry
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Brian Kelly 
> Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
> To: Legacy Test , Legacy User Group 
> 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
> 
> Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia
> and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.
> 
> Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not
> support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic
> application.
> 
> I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework
> and Unicode.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Ian Macaulay]

If you manufacture something that thousands are using, would you cater to
one or two special cases???

However I would be more worried about FAG.  Its Ancestry and in Direct
competition with My Heritage.

I guess the test will be in the pudding,  But so far you can use Legacy as
it is for as long as your Computers can run it.
If you don't like 10 than you can keep on using what you have.

I sure hope that the folks at Millennia get whats right in the way of Jobs
and Compensation,  They have been a great organization since their start.

Ian


On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Leonard J. McCown 
wrote:

> *Apparently Millennia programmers have their priorities, but not always
> the same as the users!*
>
>
>
> *­*
>
>
> *_*
>
>
>
> *Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History*
>
> *217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903*
>
> *972-254-7952 <(972)%20254-7952>*
>
> *leon...@mccown.org* * -- **http://www.mccown.org*
> 
>
> *People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to*
>
> *their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790*
>
>
> *_*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sherry
> *Sent:* Friday, August 4, 2017 10:01 AM
> *To:* Brian Kelly 
> *Cc:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
>
>
>
> They've been saying that for years! I'd think there are tools to help with
> the conversion.
>
>
> S.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:
>
> But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will mean a
> complete rewrite from the ground up.
>
> That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest the money
> to do that by hiring a team of programmers it will not happen.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:
>
>  You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli
> company...Sherry
>
>  Original message 
> From: Brian Kelly 
> Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
> To: Legacy Test , Legacy User Group <
> LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
>
> Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia
> and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.
>
> Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not
> support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic
> application.
>
> I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework
> and Unicode.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Leonard J. McCown]

Apparently Millennia programmers have their priorities, but not always the same 
as the users!

 

­

_

 

Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History

217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903

972-254-7952

  leon...@mccown.org --   
http://www.mccown.org

People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to

their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

_

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 10:01 AM
To: Brian Kelly 
Cc: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

 

They've been saying that for years! I'd think there are tools to help with the 
conversion.


S.

 

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Brian Kelly  > wrote:

But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will mean a complete 
rewrite from the ground up.

That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest the money to do 
that by hiring a team of programmers it will not happen.

Brian Kelly

On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:

 You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli company...Sherry

 Original message 
From: Brian Kelly  >
Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
To: Legacy Test  
>, Legacy User Group  >
Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia
and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.

Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not
support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic
application.

I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework
and Unicode.

Brian Kelly

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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Ian Thomas]

Brian
My thoughts exactly. I have "bitten my tongue" about these issues for the last 
6+ months. Even with the no-longer-supported VB6, Unicode can be supported - 
but that is not the sensible way to have proceeded. It would have required a 
complete rewrite, with old and clunky technology. { VB6 was released in 1998, 
and declared  "legacy" by Microsoft in 2008.] 
With the "refactored" .NET Core* which Microsoft has produced, a complete 
rewrite would cater for Windows, MacOS, and Linux/Unix (if anyone was 
interested) with 
essentially the same codeset. 
* http://www.microsoft.com/net/core

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Friday, 4 August 2017 11:50 PM
To: Legacy Test ; Legacy User Group 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia and the 
software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.

Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not support 
Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic application.

I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework and 
Unicode.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Sherry]

They've been saying that for years! I'd think there are tools to help with
the conversion.

S.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will mean a
> complete rewrite from the ground up.
>
> That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest the money
> to do that by hiring a team of programmers it will not happen.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:
>
>>  You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli
>> company...Sherry
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Brian Kelly 
>> Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Legacy Test , Legacy User Group
>> 
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
>>
>> Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia
>> and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.
>>
>> Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not
>> support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic
>> application.
>>
>> I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework
>> and Unicode.
>>
>> Brian Kelly
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Chris Hill]

Perhaps more interesting is that they are already referring to Legacy 10 only 6 
months after Legacy 9 came out. That might indicate a plan to move to the way 
that Ancestry did with Family Tree Maker selling new versions every year – 
definitely not what we want as users. I would have expected any links to 
MyHeritage to be part of a free update and not part of a new version, with 
prices.

 

Regarding Unicode, which any current system should support outside of the 
traditional Latin-based character sets, they will need to transfer from Visual 
Basic V6, which came out of support in 2005, to Visual Basic .NET. That is much 
more than just making additions and fixes to the current system, and will need 
a full redesign of it. Perhaps MyHeritage will be able to provide them with the 
funding and resources to do that.

 

Regards

 

Chris

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
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Sent: 04 August 2017 14:54
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

 

You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli company...

Sherry

 

 

 

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 Original message 
From: Brian Kelly  > 
Date: 8/4/17 6:49 AM (GMT-08:00) 
To: Legacy Test  
>, Legacy User Group  > 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage 

Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia 
and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.

Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not 
support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic 
application.

I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework 
and Unicode.

Brian Kelly

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Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Brian Kelly]

But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will mean a 
complete rewrite from the ground up.


That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest the 
money to do that by hiring a team of programmers it will not happen.


Brian Kelly

On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:
 
You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli company...Sherry


 Original message 
From: Brian Kelly 
Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
To: Legacy Test , Legacy User Group 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia
and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.

Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not
support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic
application.

I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework
and Unicode.

Brian Kelly

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[Hot.Rod.Wife]

You'd think that would be high on the list for an Israeli company...Sherry


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S

 Original message 
From: Brian Kelly  
Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Legacy Test , Legacy User Group 
 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage 

Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia 
and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.

Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not 
support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic 
application.

I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework 
and Unicode.

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[LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[Brian Kelly]

Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for Millennia 
and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by MyHeritage.


Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it will not 
support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a Visual Basic 
application.


I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the .net framework 
and Unicode.


Brian Kelly

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