Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[Sherry/Support]

You're getting emails from me and others because you're subscribed to the
Legacy Users Group mailing list.

If you want them to stop, you need to follow the instructions at the bottom
of every email to the list.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Mark & Susan <msde...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sherry/Support,
>
>  I am getting your emails to other Legacy users, and want this to stop.
> What do you recommend?  Somedays I have to delete 30 or more emails and
> it's a pain!
>
> Susan Denham
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Sherry/Support" <she...@legacyfamilytree.com>
> To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> Sent: 3/14/2016 8:13:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment
>
> Does not the info you responded to explain it?
>
> You can thank spammers and those who send malware through emails for this!
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

Brian - I'm with you in that the DMARC policies are new (and confusing ) to
me. But can you state if the following boiler plate language is being added
by your list server or somewhere else during the hops:

>> The original message to the list is in the attachment.
>>
>> This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy 
>> imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages 
>> without conversion to attachments should use a different email 
>> address for their subscription.
>>
>> Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require 
>> this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email 
>> providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.



Brian in CA



-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian/Support
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 9:35 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

For most ISPs the list software can simply modify the message header and
resend the mail to subscribers.

Some ISPs like Yahoo.com have decided to impose DMARC policies (no I do not
know what they are so please do not ask). The impact of those on mailing
lists means that mail to mailing lists from subscribers using yahoo.com
cannot be modified when re-transmitted as a mail message from the list. Our
software does that by making the original message from those subscribers an
attachment to a message from the list.

As we explain in the text of the messages (which we added so you do not get
an empty message with just an attachment) it is the subscriber from ISPs
with this DMARC policy who has to change providers to avoid having their
messages converted to attachments. We even give suggestions on who they can
use but we do not force them to change.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 14/03/2016 10:35, Hannigan Family Research wrote:
> Can someone please explain why posts from subscribers are now coming 
> the attachments to the email?  Many people (including myself) are very 
> cautious about opening attachments from a ListServ where attachments 
> are not generally permitted.
>
> Thank you
>
> John Hannigan
> Florida
>
>
> On Thursday 3 10 2016 10:18 AM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>> The original message to the list is in the attachment.
>>
>> This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy 
>> imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages 
>> without conversion to attachments should use a different email 
>> address for their subscription.
>>
>> Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require 
>> this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email 
>> providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
>>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[Mark & Susan]

Sherry/Support,

 I am getting your emails to other Legacy users, and want this to stop.  
What do you recommend?  Somedays I have to delete 30 or more emails and 
it's a pain!


Susan Denham

-- Original Message --
From: "Sherry/Support" <she...@legacyfamilytree.com>
To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Sent: 3/14/2016 8:13:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

Does not the info you responded to explain it?

You can thank spammers and those who send malware through emails for 
this!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Hannigan Family Research 
<resea...@hannigangenealogy.us> wrote:
Can someone please explain why posts from subscribers are now coming 
the attachments to the email?  Many people (including myself) are very 
cautious about opening attachments from a ListServ where attachments 
are not generally permitted.


Thank you

John Hannigan
Florida


On Thursday 3 10 2016 10:18 AM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup 
wrote:
The original message to the list is in the attachment. This action is 
required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy imposed by 
some email providers. Users who want to send messages without 
conversion to attachments should use a different email address for 
their subscription. Known providers for free email accounts whose 
emails do not require this conversion include gmail.com and 
hotmail.com. Many other email providers will also work but you will 
have to give them a try.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[Mark & Susan]

Brian,

Even your messages to answer other peoples' questions are coming to me.  
I have checked out several emails from Legacy users, and see NO way to 
unsubscribe from them.
oops, hubby just found one email from you and Loren, which has this 
unsubscribe thingy.  But, if I unsubscribe, doesn't that mean I won't 
ever hear from Legacy again?  I don't want that either!  Please advise.


Susan Denham

-- Original Message --
From: "Brian/Support" <br...@legacyfamilytree.com>
To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Sent: 3/14/2016 9:35:22 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment
For most ISPs the list software can simply modify the message header 
and resend the mail to subscribers.


Some ISPs like Yahoo.com have decided to impose DMARC policies (no I do 
not know what they are so please do not ask). The impact of those on 
mailing lists means that mail to mailing lists from subscribers using 
yahoo.com cannot be modified when re-transmitted as a mail message from 
the list. Our software does that by making the original message from 
those subscribers an attachment to a message from the list.


As we explain in the text of the messages (which we added so you do not 
get an empty message with just an attachment) it is the subscriber from 
ISPs with this DMARC policy who has to change providers to avoid having 
their messages converted to attachments. We even give suggestions on 
who they can use but we do not force them to change.


Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 14/03/2016 10:35, Hannigan Family Research wrote:
Can someone please explain why posts from subscribers are now coming 
the

attachments to the email? Many people (including myself) are very
cautious about opening attachments from a ListServ where attachments 
are

not generally permitted.

Thank you

John Hannigan
Florida


On Thursday 3 10 2016 10:18 AM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup 
wrote:

The original message to the list is in the attachment.

This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
without conversion to attachments should use a different email 
address

for their subscription.

Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com. Many other email
providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[CE WOOD]

If the content of the attachment can be re-transmitted on the list, great. 
Otherwise, those of us who care, will never see those messages. I think that it 
needs to be made clear to those who will not change their provider that their 
messages will never be read by the wise. It is dogma that one never open an 
attachment. Many phony ones have been posted on your list. A clever hacker will 
also include your explanation.

CE

> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> From: br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:35:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment
> 
> For most ISPs the list software can simply modify the message header and 
> resend the mail to subscribers.
> 
> Some ISPs like Yahoo.com have decided to impose DMARC policies (no I do 
> not know what they are so please do not ask). The impact of those on 
> mailing lists means that mail to mailing lists from subscribers using 
> yahoo.com cannot be modified when re-transmitted as a mail message from 
> the list. Our software does that by making the original message from 
> those subscribers an attachment to a message from the list.
> 
> As we explain in the text of the messages (which we added so you do not 
> get an empty message with just an attachment) it is the subscriber from 
> ISPs with this DMARC policy who has to change providers to avoid having 
> their messages converted to attachments. We even give suggestions on who 
> they can use but we do not force them to change.
> 
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> 
> 
> On 14/03/2016 10:35, Hannigan Family Research wrote:
> > Can someone please explain why posts from subscribers are now coming the
> > attachments to the email?  Many people (including myself) are very
> > cautious about opening attachments from a ListServ where attachments are
> > not generally permitted.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > John Hannigan
> > Florida
> >
> >
> > On Thursday 3 10 2016 10:18 AM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
> >> The original message to the list is in the attachment.
> >>
> >> This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
> >> imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
> >> without conversion to attachments should use a different email address
> >> for their subscription.
> >>
> >> Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
> >> this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email
> >> providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[Sherry/Support]

For those who want more info on DMARC - what it is and how it works, go to
https://dmarc.org/

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Brian/Support 
wrote:

> For most ISPs the list software can simply modify the message header and
> resend the mail to subscribers.
>
> Some ISPs like Yahoo.com have decided to impose DMARC policies (no I do
> not know what they are so please do not ask). The impact of those on
> mailing lists means that mail to mailing lists from subscribers using
> yahoo.com cannot be modified when re-transmitted as a mail message from
> the list. Our software does that by making the original message from those
> subscribers an attachment to a message from the list.
>
> As we explain in the text of the messages (which we added so you do not
> get an empty message with just an attachment) it is the subscriber from
> ISPs with this DMARC policy who has to change providers to avoid having
> their messages converted to attachments. We even give suggestions on who
> they can use but we do not force them to change.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[Brian/Support]

For most ISPs the list software can simply modify the message header and 
resend the mail to subscribers.


Some ISPs like Yahoo.com have decided to impose DMARC policies (no I do 
not know what they are so please do not ask). The impact of those on 
mailing lists means that mail to mailing lists from subscribers using 
yahoo.com cannot be modified when re-transmitted as a mail message from 
the list. Our software does that by making the original message from 
those subscribers an attachment to a message from the list.


As we explain in the text of the messages (which we added so you do not 
get an empty message with just an attachment) it is the subscriber from 
ISPs with this DMARC policy who has to change providers to avoid having 
their messages converted to attachments. We even give suggestions on who 
they can use but we do not force them to change.


Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 14/03/2016 10:35, Hannigan Family Research wrote:

Can someone please explain why posts from subscribers are now coming the
attachments to the email?  Many people (including myself) are very
cautious about opening attachments from a ListServ where attachments are
not generally permitted.

Thank you

John Hannigan
Florida


On Thursday 3 10 2016 10:18 AM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

The original message to the list is in the attachment.

This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
without conversion to attachments should use a different email address
for their subscription.

Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email
providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[Sherry/Support]

Does not the info you responded to explain it?

You can thank spammers and those who send malware through emails for this!

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Hannigan Family Research <
resea...@hannigangenealogy.us> wrote:

> Can someone please explain why posts from subscribers are now coming the
> attachments to the email?  Many people (including myself) are very cautious
> about opening attachments from a ListServ where attachments are not
> generally permitted.
>
> Thank you
>
> John Hannigan
> Florida
>
> On Thursday 3 10 2016 10:18 AM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>
> The original message to the list is in the attachment.
>
> This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
> imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
> without conversion to attachments should use a different email address
> for their subscription.
>
> Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
> this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email
> providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[linda hodges]

Per many prior emails, it is the email programs people use, doing this.  Yahoo 
is notorious for it.  There was another one as well but the domain eludes me at 
this time.   




Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 4, an AT 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
From: Hannigan Family Research <resea...@hannigangenealogy.us> 
Date: 3/14/2016  10:35 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment 


Can someone please explain
  why posts from subscribers are now coming the attachments to
  the email?  Many people (including myself) are very cautious
  about opening attachments from a ListServ where attachments
  are not generally permitted.
Thank you
John Hannigan

  Florida




On Thursday 3 10 2016 10:18 AM, Loren
  L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup wrote:



  The original message to the list is in the attachment.

This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
without conversion to attachments should use a different email address
for their subscription.

Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email
providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
  

  
  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children - posted as attachment

[Hannigan Family Research]

Can someone please explain why posts from subscribers are now coming the 
attachments to the email?  Many people (including myself) are very 
cautious about opening attachments from a ListServ where attachments are 
not generally permitted.


Thank you

John Hannigan
Florida


On Thursday 3 10 2016 10:18 AM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

The original message to the list is in the attachment.

This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
without conversion to attachments should use a different email address
for their subscription.

Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email
providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.




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