Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-11 Thread Ron Ferguson
Unless you really want to end up in prison don’t even think about in the UK, 
especially if you are a juror!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: John Carter
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 2:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

That appears to vary by court.  When I was called for jury duty at the US
Federal District Court in Atlanta several years ago, they did not allow
jurors to bring in a phone or PDA with a camera.  No pictures were allowed
in the courtrooms.

There's usually no problem if you are in a records area of a courthouse.

John

   I don't see any issue with phones or cameras in the courts
 here.  My wife just served on a jury in Maricopa County
 Superior Court, and was able to take her iPhone there.  More
 than one other juror had an iPhone, and one, who happened to
 be an attorney, had an iPad.  I've never had an issue with
 my iPhones at the FHC in Mesa, which is the second largest
 in the world.  Nor have I had a problem at the State
 Archives.  Often I can use the CamScanner app, or JotNot
 Pro, to photograph, and OCR documents on site.

 John


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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-11 Thread Eliz Hanebury
Good to know - here in Chester co you can't take a camera in and Moore
Co NC doesn't allow cameras or camera phones. So it seems just as
likely to allow as not allow.


Eliz

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:56 PM, hwedhlor hwedh...@cox.net wrote:
  I don't see any issue with phones or cameras in the courts
 here.  My wife just served on a jury in Maricopa County
 Superior Court, and was able to take her iPhone there.  More
 than one other juror had an iPhone, and one, who happened to
 be an attorney, had an iPad.  I've never had an issue with
 my iPhones at the FHC in Mesa, which is the second largest
 in the world.  Nor have I had a problem at the State
 Archives.  Often I can use the CamScanner app, or JotNot
 Pro, to photograph, and OCR documents on site.

 John

 On 5/10/2011 1:45 PM, Eliz H


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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-11 Thread hwedhlor
  The point being to check before visiting any facility to
determine what they allow.

John

On 5/11/2011 1:33 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
 Good to know - here in Chester co you can't take a camera in and Moore
 Co NC doesn't allow cameras or camera phones. So it seems just as
 likely to allow as not allow.


 Eliz

 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:56 PM, hwedhlorhwedh...@cox.net  wrote:
   I don't see any issue with phones or cameras in the courts
 here.  My wife just served on a jury in Maricopa County
 Superior Court, and was able to take her iPhone there.  More
 than one other juror had an iPhone, and one, who happened to
 be an attorney, had an iPad.  I've never had an issue with
 my iPhones at the FHC in Mesa, which is the second largest
 in the world.  Nor have I had a problem at the State
 Archives.  Often I can use the CamScanner app, or JotNot
 Pro, to photograph, and OCR documents on site.

 John

 On 5/10/2011 1:45 PM, Eliz H

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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-10 Thread Eliz Hanebury
Or on your tablet or e-reader!


Eliz

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes it is worth it if u want your family database on your phone

 Sent from my iPhone
 Leon Chapman
 chap...@gmail.com

 On May 9, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Joshua Crump j...@joshuacrump.com wrote:

 Legacy User Group,

 I am trying to decide if I want to buy the Families iPhone app and I
 wanted to know if anyone in the group is using it and if it is worth the
 $15 they want for it.

 Thanks,
 Joshua Crump
 j...@joshuacrump.com
 MCTS



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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-10 Thread hwedhlor
  Gwen,

I am running the Families app on both an iPhone 3Gs and an
iPad 2, and I heartily recommend it.  I was a beta for the
Families app when it was only available to run on the
iPhone.  Running it on the iPad 2 offers an even better
display, and easier access to features due to the larger
visual format.

Please do not think of Families as a version of Legacy
Family Tree.  Families was developed by an entirely
different company, to run under a completely different
operating system on totally different hardware than Legacy.
Having worked in the computer industry since 1965 I
understand that duplicating program features across hardware
and operating system boundaries is not a simple process.
The task is a bit like being asked to copy the Queen Mary,
but as a submarine, using plans written in a language you
don't speak or read.  Passengers from the Queen Mary want
visit the bottom of the ocean in your submarine, but they
expect the same amenities they were used to enjoying on the
Queen Mary!

Rather than concentrate on which Legacy features are
missing from the Families app, I celebrate the fact that I
can now do field research, and document findings, without
having to carry a laptop.  Navigating through my Legacy
databases with Families is done on a familiar user
interface, while the iPhone and iPad 2 allow me to
photograph documents found in the field.

Although Families will probably never duplicate the enormous
feature list of Legacy, Families does offer the user the
option to make fundamental data entries on the portable
Apple devices they choose to carry, then to update their
Legacy database to reflect all of those entries. The
creators of the Families app have proven to be very
supportive of their user base, and I look for them to add
features over time.

If you are a Legacy user, and own an iPhone, iPad, or iPod
Touch, you will find no better genealogy software than the
Families app for use on your Apple device.

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ


On 5/10/2011 12:03 AM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:
 Gwen:

 You don't actually create a GEDCOM from your Legacy database; rather, there's 
 a (free) Families Sync program that goes on your desktop computer and handles 
 the transfer of data to and from your mobile device.  And yes, you can edit 
 the data on your iPad but I don't find editing very convenient because the 
 small fields don't unpinch the way some sites or apps will, so extensive 
 editing would be (for me) fairly clumsy.  Also, the Families version doesn't 
 have all of the features of Legacy on the PC.  I'd love to clean up my 
 Locations list using the iPad, for example, but there's no Show List option 
 at the Master Location List and I'm hesitant to edit without knowing exactly 
 who I'm changing.  There are a few more of my favorite Legacy features 
 missing as well.  Families doesn't look or operate *exactly* like Legacy on 
 the PC but I still think it's a dandy little app and well worth the $15 even 
 if you just want to carry the data with you for reference as I do.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Noddie [mailto:7thw...@ihug.co.nz]
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:12 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app


 I was also wondering about an app for the iPad 2 which I could use in
 conjunction with my Legacy family tree.
 Would I be right in saying that 'Families' could be the one I would
 use.  Would  it sync with my mac and my
 windows side where 'Legacy' is.

 I was hoping I could gedcom a file, and send it to my ipad and then be
 able to view and edit records from
 there?  The site for the software does not explain the use of it very
 well, it is only a viewer or a mobile
 user friendly program where I could transfer my data to and then
 transfer it back to my mac.
 Thanks for your time

 Gwen


 On 10/05/2011, at 4:04 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:

 Joshua:

 I have Families for iPad and believe it's much the same as the app
 for iPhone.  I love the convenience of always having my Legacy data
 with me but I find the fields too small to do much in the way of
 editing (which was my initial objective).  My favorite aspect is
 being able to surf genealogical sites from anywhere in spare minutes
 and quickly check my Legacy file to see if hits have any bearing
 on my research.  Rather than update via Families and re-import to my
 PC I usually e-mail the data to myself and update only the on the
 PC.  I certainly don't regret spending the $15 for the app.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Crump [mailto:j...@joshuacrump.com]
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:42 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app


 Legacy User Group,

 I am trying to decide if I want to buy the Families iPhone app and I
 wanted to know if anyone in the group is using it and if it is worth
 the
 $15 they want for it.

 Thanks,
 Joshua Crump
 j...@joshuacrump.com
 MCTS



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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-10 Thread Eliz Hanebury
Lovely explanation really great way to view it ,G I have been
wondering if you have trouble at the library or court house or archive
with your phone?
Phones aren't allowed in many courts neither are cameras and most
phones have them. We (I) need to know how to do this.


Eliz

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:03 PM, hwedhlor hwedh...@cox.net wrote:
  Gwen,

 I am running the Families app on both an iPhone 3Gs and an
 iPad 2, and I heartily recommend it.  I was a beta for the
 Families app when it was only available to run on the
 iPhone.  Running it on the iPad 2 offers an even better
 display, and easier access to features due to the larger
 visual format.
SNIP


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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-10 Thread Noddie
Thankyou John for your wonderful explanation.

I feel this is the right program for me.  I was just wondering how I
'update to the legacy database to reflect all of my changes made'

I am using a mac with parallels and use Legacy family tree latest
version.  I do not expect Families to be the same as Legacy but
am I right in saying it is like a holding/viewing program, and from
there
I need to use  'Families Sync free program' to upload my data to
the ipad.  It seems to me I have to upload to Families, and then
to the sync program? to view it on my ipad.

Appreciate your time with this, before I go ahead an buy it at
$19 for the ipad.  What a clever invention.

Regards
Gwen




On 11/05/2011, at 8:03 AM, hwedhlor wrote:

  Gwen,

 I am running the Families app on both an iPhone 3Gs and an
 iPad 2, and I heartily recommend it.  I was a beta for the
 Families app when it was only available to run on the
 iPhone.  Running it on the iPad 2 offers an even better
 display, and easier access to features due to the larger
 visual format.

 Please do not think of Families as a version of Legacy
 Family Tree.  Families was developed by an entirely
 different company, to run under a completely different
 operating system on totally different hardware than Legacy.
 Having worked in the computer industry since 1965 I
 understand that duplicating program features across hardware
 and operating system boundaries is not a simple process.
 The task is a bit like being asked to copy the Queen Mary,
 but as a submarine, using plans written in a language you
 don't speak or read.  Passengers from the Queen Mary want
 visit the bottom of the ocean in your submarine, but they
 expect the same amenities they were used to enjoying on the
 Queen Mary!

 Rather than concentrate on which Legacy features are
 missing from the Families app, I celebrate the fact that I
 can now do field research, and document findings, without
 having to carry a laptop.  Navigating through my Legacy
 databases with Families is done on a familiar user
 interface, while the iPhone and iPad 2 allow me to
 photograph documents found in the field.

 Although Families will probably never duplicate the enormous
 feature list of Legacy, Families does offer the user the
 option to make fundamental data entries on the portable
 Apple devices they choose to carry, then to update their
 Legacy database to reflect all of those entries. The
 creators of the Families app have proven to be very
 supportive of their user base, and I look for them to add
 features over time.

 If you are a Legacy user, and own an iPhone, iPad, or iPod
 Touch, you will find no better genealogy software than the
 Families app for use on your Apple device.

 John Zimmerman
 Mesa, AZ


 On 5/10/2011 12:03 AM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:
 Gwen:

 You don't actually create a GEDCOM from your Legacy database;
 rather, there's a (free) Families Sync program that goes on your
 desktop computer and handles the transfer of data to and from your
 mobile device.  And yes, you can edit the data on your iPad but I
 don't find editing very convenient because the small fields don't
 unpinch the way some sites or apps will, so extensive editing
 would be (for me) fairly clumsy.  Also, the Families version
 doesn't have all of the features of Legacy on the PC.  I'd love to
 clean up my Locations list using the iPad, for example, but there's
 no Show List option at the Master Location List and I'm hesitant
 to edit without knowing exactly who I'm changing.  There are a few
 more of my favorite Legacy features missing as well.  Families
 doesn't look or operate *exactly* like Legacy on the PC but I still
 think it's a dandy little app and well worth the $15 even if you
 just want to carry the data with you for reference as I do.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Noddie [mailto:7thw...@ihug.co.nz]
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:12 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app


 I was also wondering about an app for the iPad 2 which I could use in
 conjunction with my Legacy family tree.
 Would I be right in saying that 'Families' could be the one I would
 use.  Would  it sync with my mac and my
 windows side where 'Legacy' is.

 I was hoping I could gedcom a file, and send it to my ipad and then
 be
 able to view and edit records from
 there?  The site for the software does not explain the use of it very
 well, it is only a viewer or a mobile
 user friendly program where I could transfer my data to and then
 transfer it back to my mac.
 Thanks for your time

 Gwen


 On 10/05/2011, at 4:04 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:

 Joshua:

 I have Families for iPad and believe it's much the same as the app
 for iPhone.  I love the convenience of always having my Legacy data
 with me but I find the fields too small to do much in the way of
 editing (which was my initial objective).  My favorite aspect is
 being able to surf genealogical sites from anywhere in spare minutes

Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-10 Thread Noddie
Hi again Kirsten
Thanks once again for your wonderful input.  It seems like the right
program
for me whilst I am travelling, and going back and forth to the library

Much appreciated.
Regards
Gwen


On 10/05/2011, at 7:03 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:

 Gwen:

 You don't actually create a GEDCOM from your Legacy database;
 rather, there's a (free) Families Sync program that goes on your
 desktop computer and handles the transfer of data to and from your
 mobile device.  And yes, you can edit the data on your iPad but I
 don't find editing very convenient because the small fields don't
 unpinch the way some sites or apps will, so extensive editing
 would be (for me) fairly clumsy.  Also, the Families version doesn't
 have all of the features of Legacy on the PC.  I'd love to clean up
 my Locations list using the iPad, for example, but there's no Show
 List option at the Master Location List and I'm hesitant to edit
 without knowing exactly who I'm changing.  There are a few more of
 my favorite Legacy features missing as well.  Families doesn't look
 or operate *exactly* like Legacy on the PC but I still think it's a
 dandy little app and well worth the $15 even if you just want to
 carry the data with you for reference as I do.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Noddie [mailto:7thw...@ihug.co.nz]
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:12 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app


 I was also wondering about an app for the iPad 2 which I could use in
 conjunction with my Legacy family tree.
 Would I be right in saying that 'Families' could be the one I would
 use.  Would  it sync with my mac and my
 windows side where 'Legacy' is.

 I was hoping I could gedcom a file, and send it to my ipad and then be
 able to view and edit records from
 there?  The site for the software does not explain the use of it very
 well, it is only a viewer or a mobile
 user friendly program where I could transfer my data to and then
 transfer it back to my mac.
 Thanks for your time

 Gwen


 On 10/05/2011, at 4:04 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:

 Joshua:

 I have Families for iPad and believe it's much the same as the app
 for iPhone.  I love the convenience of always having my Legacy data
 with me but I find the fields too small to do much in the way of
 editing (which was my initial objective).  My favorite aspect is
 being able to surf genealogical sites from anywhere in spare minutes
 and quickly check my Legacy file to see if hits have any bearing
 on my research.  Rather than update via Families and re-import to my
 PC I usually e-mail the data to myself and update only the on the
 PC.  I certainly don't regret spending the $15 for the app.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Crump [mailto:j...@joshuacrump.com]
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:42 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app


 Legacy User Group,

 I am trying to decide if I want to buy the Families iPhone app and I
 wanted to know if anyone in the group is using it and if it is worth
 the
 $15 they want for it.

 Thanks,
 Joshua Crump
 j...@joshuacrump.com
 MCTS




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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-10 Thread hwedhlor
  I don't see any issue with phones or cameras in the courts
here.  My wife just served on a jury in Maricopa County
Superior Court, and was able to take her iPhone there.  More
than one other juror had an iPhone, and one, who happened to
be an attorney, had an iPad.  I've never had an issue with
my iPhones at the FHC in Mesa, which is the second largest
in the world.  Nor have I had a problem at the State
Archives.  Often I can use the CamScanner app, or JotNot
Pro, to photograph, and OCR documents on site.

John

On 5/10/2011 1:45 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
 Lovely explanation really great way to view it ,G  I have been
 wondering if you have trouble at the library or court house or archive
 with your phone?
 Phones aren't allowed in many courts neither are cameras and most
 phones have them. We (I) need to know how to do this.


 Eliz

 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:03 PM, hwedhlorhwedh...@cox.net  wrote:
   Gwen,

 I am running the Families app on both an iPhone 3Gs and an
 iPad 2, and I heartily recommend it.  I was a beta for the
 Families app when it was only available to run on the
 iPhone.  Running it on the iPad 2 offers an even better
 display, and easier access to features due to the larger
 visual format.
 SNIP


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[LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-09 Thread Joshua Crump
Legacy User Group,

I am trying to decide if I want to buy the Families iPhone app and I
wanted to know if anyone in the group is using it and if it is worth the
$15 they want for it.

Thanks,
Joshua Crump
j...@joshuacrump.com
MCTS



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Re: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app

2011-05-09 Thread Noddie
I was also wondering about an app for the iPad 2 which I could use in
conjunction with my Legacy family tree.
Would I be right in saying that 'Families' could be the one I would
use.  Would  it sync with my mac and my
windows side where 'Legacy' is.

I was hoping I could gedcom a file, and send it to my ipad and then be
able to view and edit records from
there?  The site for the software does not explain the use of it very
well, it is only a viewer or a mobile
user friendly program where I could transfer my data to and then
transfer it back to my mac.
Thanks for your time

Gwen


On 10/05/2011, at 4:04 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:

 Joshua:

 I have Families for iPad and believe it's much the same as the app
 for iPhone.  I love the convenience of always having my Legacy data
 with me but I find the fields too small to do much in the way of
 editing (which was my initial objective).  My favorite aspect is
 being able to surf genealogical sites from anywhere in spare minutes
 and quickly check my Legacy file to see if hits have any bearing
 on my research.  Rather than update via Families and re-import to my
 PC I usually e-mail the data to myself and update only the on the
 PC.  I certainly don't regret spending the $15 for the app.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Crump [mailto:j...@joshuacrump.com]
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:42 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Families iPhnoe app


 Legacy User Group,

 I am trying to decide if I want to buy the Families iPhone app and I
 wanted to know if anyone in the group is using it and if it is worth
 the
 $15 they want for it.

 Thanks,
 Joshua Crump
 j...@joshuacrump.com
 MCTS





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