Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
On 13-Jul-17 07:46 PM, Dennis Birke wrote: I'd like to have a reference book or manual that tells me what the standard practice is -- so that I don't have to spend hours trying to think it through or proceeding on a trial and error basis and then having to re-do a dozen entries after discovering I guessed wrong. SourceWriter templates are based on the examples in Elizabeth Shown Mills' book Evidence Explained, so you might want to purchase that, but you might find it rather more "professional" than you want. Another example: Cites like FamilySearch are very helpful in offering full citations for some kinds of information. But, I've been having a very difficult time figuring out how to fit those citations into Source Writer (and, again, figuring out the appropriate level for separating a "master source" from "details". The best way to think of the difference between Master and Detail is "what will be repeated again and again and what is specific to this one occasion?" Repeated again and again means Master Source, and specific means Detail. For example, a family tree drawn up by someone else includes lots of your relatives with many details about their vital events (birth, marriage, etc.) The family tree is the Master Source (you might call it Bloggs Family Tree). When entering Birth information for Joe Bloggs you cite that master Source for his Name and Birth date/place. You select Bloggs Family Tree as the Master Source and enter detail specific to Joe Bloggs in the Source Detail fields. Then you move on to entering the Death date for John Smith. You again select the Bloggs Family Tree as the Master Source but this time enter what is specific to John Smith in the Source Details. -- Jenny M Benson http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
nk for the > citation, contents shown below. > > Find A Grave, database and images (https://new.findagrave.com : accessed > 13 July 2017), memorial page for Ralph Johnson Fowler (4 Oct 1917–10 Oct > 1994), Find A Grave Memorial no. 107684300, citing Mount Kenton Cemetery, > Paducah, McCracken County, Kentucky, USA ; Maintained by Glenda & Ken > Miller (contributor 47705248) > > This example above might give you an idea of how to format a citation for > a website. > > I use Ancestry.com for a lot of my records research so my source is > Ancestry.com for any records I cite which were found and viewed on that > site and for the citation, I use the source citation information they > always provide at the base of the record being viewed. > > For information I cited for an uncle's 1940 Fed Census family entry, my > citation would be: > > Example: > Ancestry.com. 1940 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, > UT, USA, Year: 1940; Census Place: Weaver, Franklin, Arkansas; Roll: > T627_136; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 24-31 > > If someone wanted to view the census record I'm citing, the information in > the citation is enough for them to find it by going to a local library and > using microfilm or whatever other source they use for viewing Federal > Census records. > > I have a book I own and frequently use, so the book is my source, with all > the book information entered for the source, then I simply put the page > number in the citation detail where the specific information I'm citing was > found. If I want to be more detailed, I might also add in the citation > detail 'pension number' or 'death date' or 'name of wife' or whatever > information I've discovered and used from this source. > > Example source: > Frances T. Ingmire, Arkansas Confederate Veterans and Widows Pension > Applications (printed in > Signal Mountain. Tennessee, ©1985. pub, by Mountain Press, P.O. Box 400, > 37377-0400; > www.mountainpress.com). pg. xx > > In my Master Source List for the source mentioned above, my Master Source > List name is Book: Arkansas Confederate Veterans and Widows Pension > Applications. I don't print this Master Source List Name but using Book: in > the Master Source List allows all of my books to sort together in the list > and makes it easier for me to quickly find a specific book source. Once I > type in Book: the source list jumps to the books and I can quickly spot the > book I want to cite. > > You are wise to think about this before you begin. I think you can get as > complicated or as simple as you want to make things. Try a few different > ways of setting up a source and see how it prints and how easy the format > is for you to use. Just decide beforehand, then be consistent. > > If you want to try and find a book written about this subject, google > citing genealogical sources or something similar and you should have a lot > of suggestions to look through. The Mills book is quite detailed and I > believe the Sourcewriter System in Legacy is closely based on her > suggestions. > > Here's a link to a helpful list on Cyndi's List that might get you started: > http://www.cyndislist.com/citing/citations-in-genealogy/ > > Good luck with your project. > > Mary > > > -Original Message- > From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On > Behalf Of Dennis Birke > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:46 PM > To: 'Legacy User Group' > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources > > Thanks for the suggestions. I have watched Geoff's webinar on citing > sources and it’s very helpful -- as far as it goes. I think what I'm > looking for is a manual that gives examples for the commonly cited sources. > > For example, when citing Federal census records, what is the Master source > and what is the detail? Is the Master source the record at the state > level? Or county level? Or city/town/ township level? > > I'd like to have a reference book or manual that tells me what the > standard practice is -- so that I don't have to spend hours trying to think > it through or proceeding on a trial and error basis and then having to > re-do a dozen entries after discovering I guessed wrong. > > Another example: Cites like FamilySearch are very helpful in offering > full citations for some kinds of information. But, I've been having a very > difficult time figuring out how to fit those citations into Source Writer > (and, again, figuring out the appropriate level for separating a "master > source" from "details". > > I'm thinking I can't be the only person to have struggled with these > issues and someone has probably written something that answers all or most > of my
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
I have been on the LUG email list for a number of years and the issue of how to cite sources or which template to use constantly comes up. I am fairly pedantic but when it comes to sources I agree with Geoff Rasmussen- the most important thing is, for readers to know what the source is and where to find it. I have cited everything from engraving on a Baptismal cup, to copies of Nazi documents provided and translated by the International Tracing Service. It is impossible to have a template for everything but Legacy has many to choose from. I pick the closest to what is appropriate. I also try to be as consistent as possible. You can also add text or comments to any citation to ensure readers know everything necessary. John -Original Message- From: Mary Leek Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:59 AM To: 'Legacy User Group' Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources Dennis, I don't use the Legacy SourceWriter System, just the Basic Source System so my examples might be formatted differently if using the SourceWriter. There are many different methods of organizing and formatting your sources. If you plan on publishing, then there are formatting specifics you will want to follow. Otherwise, I feel a source is sufficient if there's enough source information there for someone else to use to track down my source. Many genealogists or family historians prefer to be more structured in their approach. Only you know how much time and effort you wish to invest. One frequently used source for burial location is the website, Find A Grave. With the new interface, still in beta, they are providing an already formatted citation to place in the source detail when you cite information from a Find A Grave memorial. Example: https://new.findagrave.com/memorial/107684300/ralph-johnson-fowler scroll to the bottom of the page and you will see the link for the citation, contents shown below. Find A Grave, database and images (https://new.findagrave.com : accessed 13 July 2017), memorial page for Ralph Johnson Fowler (4 Oct 1917–10 Oct 1994), Find A Grave Memorial no. 107684300, citing Mount Kenton Cemetery, Paducah, McCracken County, Kentucky, USA ; Maintained by Glenda & Ken Miller (contributor 47705248) This example above might give you an idea of how to format a citation for a website. I use Ancestry.com for a lot of my records research so my source is Ancestry.com for any records I cite which were found and viewed on that site and for the citation, I use the source citation information they always provide at the base of the record being viewed. For information I cited for an uncle's 1940 Fed Census family entry, my citation would be: Example: Ancestry.com. 1940 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA, Year: 1940; Census Place: Weaver, Franklin, Arkansas; Roll: T627_136; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 24-31 If someone wanted to view the census record I'm citing, the information in the citation is enough for them to find it by going to a local library and using microfilm or whatever other source they use for viewing Federal Census records. I have a book I own and frequently use, so the book is my source, with all the book information entered for the source, then I simply put the page number in the citation detail where the specific information I'm citing was found. If I want to be more detailed, I might also add in the citation detail 'pension number' or 'death date' or 'name of wife' or whatever information I've discovered and used from this source. Example source: Frances T. Ingmire, Arkansas Confederate Veterans and Widows Pension Applications (printed in Signal Mountain. Tennessee, ©1985. pub, by Mountain Press, P.O. Box 400, 37377-0400; www.mountainpress.com). pg. xx In my Master Source List for the source mentioned above, my Master Source List name is Book: Arkansas Confederate Veterans and Widows Pension Applications. I don't print this Master Source List Name but using Book: in the Master Source List allows all of my books to sort together in the list and makes it easier for me to quickly find a specific book source. Once I type in Book: the source list jumps to the books and I can quickly spot the book I want to cite. You are wise to think about this before you begin. I think you can get as complicated or as simple as you want to make things. Try a few different ways of setting up a source and see how it prints and how easy the format is for you to use. Just decide beforehand, then be consistent. If you want to try and find a book written about this subject, google citing genealogical sources or something similar and you should have a lot of suggestions to look through. The Mills book is quite detailed and I believe the Sourcewriter System in Legacy is closely based on her suggestions. Here's a link to a helpful list on Cyndi's List that might get you started: http://www.cyndislist.com/ci
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
Dennis, I don't use the Legacy SourceWriter System, just the Basic Source System so my examples might be formatted differently if using the SourceWriter. There are many different methods of organizing and formatting your sources. If you plan on publishing, then there are formatting specifics you will want to follow. Otherwise, I feel a source is sufficient if there's enough source information there for someone else to use to track down my source. Many genealogists or family historians prefer to be more structured in their approach. Only you know how much time and effort you wish to invest. One frequently used source for burial location is the website, Find A Grave. With the new interface, still in beta, they are providing an already formatted citation to place in the source detail when you cite information from a Find A Grave memorial. Example: https://new.findagrave.com/memorial/107684300/ralph-johnson-fowler scroll to the bottom of the page and you will see the link for the citation, contents shown below. Find A Grave, database and images (https://new.findagrave.com : accessed 13 July 2017), memorial page for Ralph Johnson Fowler (4 Oct 1917–10 Oct 1994), Find A Grave Memorial no. 107684300, citing Mount Kenton Cemetery, Paducah, McCracken County, Kentucky, USA ; Maintained by Glenda & Ken Miller (contributor 47705248) This example above might give you an idea of how to format a citation for a website. I use Ancestry.com for a lot of my records research so my source is Ancestry.com for any records I cite which were found and viewed on that site and for the citation, I use the source citation information they always provide at the base of the record being viewed. For information I cited for an uncle's 1940 Fed Census family entry, my citation would be: Example: Ancestry.com. 1940 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA, Year: 1940; Census Place: Weaver, Franklin, Arkansas; Roll: T627_136; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 24-31 If someone wanted to view the census record I'm citing, the information in the citation is enough for them to find it by going to a local library and using microfilm or whatever other source they use for viewing Federal Census records. I have a book I own and frequently use, so the book is my source, with all the book information entered for the source, then I simply put the page number in the citation detail where the specific information I'm citing was found. If I want to be more detailed, I might also add in the citation detail 'pension number' or 'death date' or 'name of wife' or whatever information I've discovered and used from this source. Example source: Frances T. Ingmire, Arkansas Confederate Veterans and Widows Pension Applications (printed in Signal Mountain. Tennessee, ©1985. pub, by Mountain Press, P.O. Box 400, 37377-0400; www.mountainpress.com). pg. xx In my Master Source List for the source mentioned above, my Master Source List name is Book: Arkansas Confederate Veterans and Widows Pension Applications. I don't print this Master Source List Name but using Book: in the Master Source List allows all of my books to sort together in the list and makes it easier for me to quickly find a specific book source. Once I type in Book: the source list jumps to the books and I can quickly spot the book I want to cite. You are wise to think about this before you begin. I think you can get as complicated or as simple as you want to make things. Try a few different ways of setting up a source and see how it prints and how easy the format is for you to use. Just decide beforehand, then be consistent. If you want to try and find a book written about this subject, google citing genealogical sources or something similar and you should have a lot of suggestions to look through. The Mills book is quite detailed and I believe the Sourcewriter System in Legacy is closely based on her suggestions. Here's a link to a helpful list on Cyndi's List that might get you started: http://www.cyndislist.com/citing/citations-in-genealogy/ Good luck with your project. Mary -Original Message- From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Birke Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:46 PM To: 'Legacy User Group' Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources Thanks for the suggestions. I have watched Geoff's webinar on citing sources and it’s very helpful -- as far as it goes. I think what I'm looking for is a manual that gives examples for the commonly cited sources. For example, when citing Federal census records, what is the Master source and what is the detail? Is the Master source the record at the state level? Or county level? Or city/town/ township level? I'd like to have a reference book or manual that tells me what the standard practice is -- so that I don't have to spend hours trying to think it through or proceeding on a trial and e
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
Amazon lists the 3rd edition for $51.92, and even one used for $46.97. _ Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History 217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903 972-254-7952 leon...@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790 _ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
It is a very pricey book, $76. There is a quick sheet offered by Legacy that covers a lot of the sources that are frequently cited, I think it is well under $10. I too have problems with how exactly to cite a source, it gets very confusing as to the source-detail etc. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 13, 2017, at 2:28 PM, BARTON LEWIS <bartonle...@optonline.net> wrote: > > Dennis, > > Elizabeth Shown Mills' "Evidence Explained" is the standard work for source > citations. Google it and you can see examples on her website, and/or > purchase the entire book. You may be able to find prior versions on sale at > ebay or amazon, which should be adequate and save some money. Beware: it's > not just a book but a "tome" but it covers everything. Better safe than > sorry. > > Barton > > >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 02:46 PM, Dennis Birke wrote: >> >> Thanks for the suggestions. I have watched Geoff's webinar on citing >> sources and it’s very helpful -- as far as it goes. I think what I'm >> looking for is a manual that gives examples for the commonly cited sources. >> >> For example, when citing Federal census records, what is the Master source >> and what is the detail? Is the Master source the record at the state level? >> Or county level? Or city/town/ township level? >> I'd like to have a reference book or manual that tells me what the standard >> practice is -- so that I don't have to spend hours trying to think it >> through or proceeding on a trial and error basis and then having to re-do a >> dozen entries after discovering I guessed wrong. >> Another example: Cites like FamilySearch are very helpful in offering full >> citations for some kinds of information. But, I've been having a very >> difficult time figuring out how to fit those citations into Source Writer >> (and, again, figuring out the appropriate level for separating a "master >> source" from "details". >> I'm thinking I can't be the only person to have struggled with these issues >> and someone has probably written something that answers all or most of my >> questions. I'm trying to identify that book or manual or website, etc. >> >> Don't get me wrong -- I really do appreciate how powerful a tool Source >> Writer might be. But it assumes a level of knowledge that a novice like >> myself just doesn't have. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On >> Behalf Of Cathy Pinner >> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:11 PM >> To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources >> >> Michele has given you the link to a very popular webinar. >> >> You don't have to be a professional to need to cite your sources in a way >> that someone else can understand - that someone could be you in a few years >> time. >> >> There's nothing wrong with using Basic Sources. >> >> The most important thing to get your head around is Master Sources and >> Source Detail. Together they provide everything you or someone else needs to >> know to find the source (or to know why they can't find it because it's from >> a document/Family Bible/etc that you own or saw when you visited Uncle >> John.) A book is easy. >> The book is the Master source and the page is the Source Detail. >> But what about something you find on FamilySearch? >> The easiest way to source FamilySearch data is to create a Basic Source with >> the Master Source just saying FamilySearch in the Source List Name (which is >> your finding aid for refinding a Master Source) and FamilySearch in the >> Title. >> Then you can copy and paste the FamilySearch source to the Source Detail >> - sometimes it will fit in the Source Detail box but often it's too long, so >> put it in the Source Detail Comment and checkmark that to be included. The >> transcription is copy and pasted into the Source Detail text and not >> normally included in the citation. >> The same can be done with the source that Ancestry provides. >> >> With the SourceWriter simply remember that you don't have to put something >> in every available box. These are general templates that don't always apply. >> >> For online databases and online databases with original images, you can use >> the SourceWriter internet templates for these. >> The name of the particular database goes in the Master Source. In the source >> detail something like "entry for Joe Bloggs" and in the credit line - where >> Ancestry etc got the in
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
Dennis, Elizabeth Shown Mills' "Evidence Explained" is the standard work for source citations. Google it and you can see examples on her website, and/or purchase the entire book. You may be able to find prior versions on sale at ebay or amazon, which should be adequate and save some money. Beware: it's not just a book but a "tome" but it covers everything. Better safe than sorry. Barton On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 02:46 PM, Dennis Birke wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. I have watched Geoff's webinar on citing sources and it’s very helpful -- as far as it goes. I think what I'm looking for is a manual that gives examples for the commonly cited sources. For example, when citing Federal census records, what is the Master source and what is the detail? Is the Master source the record at the state level? Or county level? Or city/town/ township level? I'd like to have a reference book or manual that tells me what the standard practice is -- so that I don't have to spend hours trying to think it through or proceeding on a trial and error basis and then having to re-do a dozen entries after discovering I guessed wrong. Another example: Cites like FamilySearch are very helpful in offering full citations for some kinds of information. But, I've been having a very difficult time figuring out how to fit those citations into Source Writer (and, again, figuring out the appropriate level for separating a "master source" from "details". I'm thinking I can't be the only person to have struggled with these issues and someone has probably written something that answers all or most of my questions. I'm trying to identify that book or manual or website, etc. Don't get me wrong -- I really do appreciate how powerful a tool Source Writer might be. But it assumes a level of knowledge that a novice like myself just doesn't have. -Original Message- From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Pinner Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:11 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources Michele has given you the link to a very popular webinar. You don't have to be a professional to need to cite your sources in a way that someone else can understand - that someone could be you in a few years time. There's nothing wrong with using Basic Sources. The most important thing to get your head around is Master Sources and Source Detail. Together they provide everything you or someone else needs to know to find the source (or to know why they can't find it because it's from a document/Family Bible/etc that you own or saw when you visited Uncle John.) A book is easy. The book is the Master source and the page is the Source Detail. But what about something you find on FamilySearch? The easiest way to source FamilySearch data is to create a Basic Source with the Master Source just saying FamilySearch in the Source List Name (which is your finding aid for refinding a Master Source) and FamilySearch in the Title. Then you can copy and paste the FamilySearch source to the Source Detail - sometimes it will fit in the Source Detail box but often it's too long, so put it in the Source Detail Comment and checkmark that to be included. The transcription is copy and pasted into the Source Detail text and not normally included in the citation. The same can be done with the source that Ancestry provides. With the SourceWriter simply remember that you don't have to put something in every available box. These are general templates that don't always apply. For online databases and online databases with original images, you can use the SourceWriter internet templates for these. The name of the particular database goes in the Master Source. In the source detail something like "entry for Joe Bloggs" and in the credit line - where Ancestry etc got the information. This can be more useful than putting all Ancestry sources into one Master Source. It's an advanced step but you can more easily find which people you've looked for and found in a particular database if you have a Master Source for each database. It's much harder adding sources later but no reason not to start. Use tags to indicate that you have sourced everything you've entered for that person. The source icon lights up with just one source so isn't useful for letting you know that you still have work to do. Have fun - I'm still cleaning up sources that I entered when I first started that fortunately still make some sense to me but wouldn't to anybody else. Cathy Michele/Support Thursday, 13 July 2017 5:19 AM Have you watched Geoff’s free webinar, Sources and Citations Made Simple, Standard, and Powerful? It definitely takes the mystery out of it. https://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=201 Michele Simmons Lewis, CG Legacy Family Tree mich...@legacyfamilytree.
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
Thanks for the suggestions. I have watched Geoff's webinar on citing sources and it’s very helpful -- as far as it goes. I think what I'm looking for is a manual that gives examples for the commonly cited sources. For example, when citing Federal census records, what is the Master source and what is the detail? Is the Master source the record at the state level? Or county level? Or city/town/ township level? I'd like to have a reference book or manual that tells me what the standard practice is -- so that I don't have to spend hours trying to think it through or proceeding on a trial and error basis and then having to re-do a dozen entries after discovering I guessed wrong. Another example: Cites like FamilySearch are very helpful in offering full citations for some kinds of information. But, I've been having a very difficult time figuring out how to fit those citations into Source Writer (and, again, figuring out the appropriate level for separating a "master source" from "details". I'm thinking I can't be the only person to have struggled with these issues and someone has probably written something that answers all or most of my questions. I'm trying to identify that book or manual or website, etc. Don't get me wrong -- I really do appreciate how powerful a tool Source Writer might be. But it assumes a level of knowledge that a novice like myself just doesn't have. -Original Message- From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Pinner Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:11 PM To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources Michele has given you the link to a very popular webinar. You don't have to be a professional to need to cite your sources in a way that someone else can understand - that someone could be you in a few years time. There's nothing wrong with using Basic Sources. The most important thing to get your head around is Master Sources and Source Detail. Together they provide everything you or someone else needs to know to find the source (or to know why they can't find it because it's from a document/Family Bible/etc that you own or saw when you visited Uncle John.) A book is easy. The book is the Master source and the page is the Source Detail. But what about something you find on FamilySearch? The easiest way to source FamilySearch data is to create a Basic Source with the Master Source just saying FamilySearch in the Source List Name (which is your finding aid for refinding a Master Source) and FamilySearch in the Title. Then you can copy and paste the FamilySearch source to the Source Detail - sometimes it will fit in the Source Detail box but often it's too long, so put it in the Source Detail Comment and checkmark that to be included. The transcription is copy and pasted into the Source Detail text and not normally included in the citation. The same can be done with the source that Ancestry provides. With the SourceWriter simply remember that you don't have to put something in every available box. These are general templates that don't always apply. For online databases and online databases with original images, you can use the SourceWriter internet templates for these. The name of the particular database goes in the Master Source. In the source detail something like "entry for Joe Bloggs" and in the credit line - where Ancestry etc got the information. This can be more useful than putting all Ancestry sources into one Master Source. It's an advanced step but you can more easily find which people you've looked for and found in a particular database if you have a Master Source for each database. It's much harder adding sources later but no reason not to start. Use tags to indicate that you have sourced everything you've entered for that person. The source icon lights up with just one source so isn't useful for letting you know that you still have work to do. Have fun - I'm still cleaning up sources that I entered when I first started that fortunately still make some sense to me but wouldn't to anybody else. Cathy > Michele/Support <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> > Thursday, 13 July 2017 5:19 AM > > Have you watched Geoff’s free webinar, Sources and Citations Made > Simple, Standard, and Powerful? It definitely takes the mystery out > of it. > > https://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=201 > > Michele Simmons Lewis, CG > > Legacy Family Tree > > mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> > > www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> > > Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG > is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, > used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standa
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
Michele has given you the link to a very popular webinar. You don't have to be a professional to need to cite your sources in a way that someone else can understand - that someone could be you in a few years time. There's nothing wrong with using Basic Sources. The most important thing to get your head around is Master Sources and Source Detail. Together they provide everything you or someone else needs to know to find the source (or to know why they can't find it because it's from a document/Family Bible/etc that you own or saw when you visited Uncle John.) A book is easy. The book is the Master source and the page is the Source Detail. But what about something you find on FamilySearch? The easiest way to source FamilySearch data is to create a Basic Source with the Master Source just saying FamilySearch in the Source List Name (which is your finding aid for refinding a Master Source) and FamilySearch in the Title. Then you can copy and paste the FamilySearch source to the Source Detail - sometimes it will fit in the Source Detail box but often it's too long, so put it in the Source Detail Comment and checkmark that to be included. The transcription is copy and pasted into the Source Detail text and not normally included in the citation. The same can be done with the source that Ancestry provides. With the SourceWriter simply remember that you don't have to put something in every available box. These are general templates that don't always apply. For online databases and online databases with original images, you can use the SourceWriter internet templates for these. The name of the particular database goes in the Master Source. In the source detail something like "entry for Joe Bloggs" and in the credit line - where Ancestry etc got the information. This can be more useful than putting all Ancestry sources into one Master Source. It's an advanced step but you can more easily find which people you've looked for and found in a particular database if you have a Master Source for each database. It's much harder adding sources later but no reason not to start. Use tags to indicate that you have sourced everything you've entered for that person. The source icon lights up with just one source so isn't useful for letting you know that you still have work to do. Have fun - I'm still cleaning up sources that I entered when I first started that fortunately still make some sense to me but wouldn't to anybody else. Cathy Michele/Support <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> Thursday, 13 July 2017 5:19 AM Have you watched Geoff’s free webinar, Sources and Citations Made Simple, Standard, and Powerful? It definitely takes the mystery out of it. https://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=201 Michele Simmons Lewis, CG Legacy Family Tree mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards. *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Birke *Sent:* Wednesday, July 12, 2017 4:50 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources I’ve been using Legacy for a number of years, but never bothered to record sources. I’d like to start citing sources, but I’m finding using Source Writer very cumbersome and time-consuming to use. I’m not a professional, and don’t need professional-quality citations. I’d just like to record sources of information in a consistent and systematic way so that future generations of my family have some idea where I found the recorded information. Is there a webinar, tutorial, manual, etc. that can provide me with some basic instructions on citing sources and/or using Source Writer? I think I need something akin to “Source Writer for Dummies”. I’d appreciate any suggestions you have. Dennis Birke <mailto:dpbi...@gmail.com> Thursday, 13 July 2017 4:50 AM I’ve been using Legacy for a number of years, but never bothered to record sources. I’d like to start citing sources, but I’m finding using Source Writer very cumbersome and time-consuming to use. I’m not a professional, and don’t need professional-quality citations. I’d just like to record sources of information in a consistent and systematic way so that future generations of my family have some idea where I found the recorded information. Is there a webinar, tutorial, manual, etc. that can provide me with some basic instructions on citing sources and/or using Source Writer? I think I need something akin to “Source Writer for Dummies”. I’d appreciate any suggestions you have. -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyuse
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
Have you watched Geoff's free webinar, Sources and Citations Made Simple, Standard, and Powerful? It definitely takes the mystery out of it. https://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=201 Michele Simmons Lewis, CG Legacy Family Tree <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/> www.legacyfamilytree.com Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under license by Board certificants who meet competency standards. From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Birke Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 4:50 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources I've been using Legacy for a number of years, but never bothered to record sources. I'd like to start citing sources, but I'm finding using Source Writer very cumbersome and time-consuming to use. I'm not a professional, and don't need professional-quality citations. I'd just like to record sources of information in a consistent and systematic way so that future generations of my family have some idea where I found the recorded information. Is there a webinar, tutorial, manual, etc. that can provide me with some basic instructions on citing sources and/or using Source Writer? I think I need something akin to "Source Writer for Dummies". I'd appreciate any suggestions you have. -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
LOL! I am with you, Dennis. I keep trying to use the source writer, and almost every time I end up going “huh??” I then tend to put the information under events, and copy the source information that is given in what I find to that as well as the information, so that I can go back if necessary. But the citation stuff eludes me – and I have a great deal of education so it should come naturally I would think! Ha! Looks easy when Geoff does it, but I am always confused before long! From: Dennis Birke Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:51 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources I’ve been using Legacy for a number of years, but never bothered to record sources. I’d like to start citing sources, but I’m finding using Source Writer very cumbersome and time-consuming to use. I’m not a professional, and don’t need professional-quality citations. I’d just like to record sources of information in a consistent and systematic way so that future generations of my family have some idea where I found the recorded information. Is there a webinar, tutorial, manual, etc. that can provide me with some basic instructions on citing sources and/or using Source Writer? I think I need something akin to “Source Writer for Dummies”. I’d appreciate any suggestions you have. -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
[LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
I've been using Legacy for a number of years, but never bothered to record sources. I'd like to start citing sources, but I'm finding using Source Writer very cumbersome and time-consuming to use. I'm not a professional, and don't need professional-quality citations. I'd just like to record sources of information in a consistent and systematic way so that future generations of my family have some idea where I found the recorded information. Is there a webinar, tutorial, manual, etc. that can provide me with some basic instructions on citing sources and/or using Source Writer? I think I need something akin to "Source Writer for Dummies". I'd appreciate any suggestions you have. -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
