Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
One word that I use in dates is Due. I put it in for a scheduled marriage or projected birth. Then I search the date fields for Due and if the date has passed, I correct it to the actual date. It should only be useful for entering a future event. Ron Taylor On Friday, December 20, 2013 9:15 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: You guys can certainly Unknown or any other designation but I'm just pointing out that when you enter anything but actual useful data in a field, it leaves a couple of the great features in Legacy unusable. I particularly love the Missing Information search to help me find what I need to search on. Of course, you could do a detailed search on each field for unknown but that seems like a lot of extra typing to me to enter that therm and then do the Detailed Search when you can do one search with the Missing Info tab. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote: Well that makes at least two of us that have been doing it that way for 15+ years and likewise no problems exposed on this end. The terms Private and Unknown seem to be well recognized by and utilized within other genealogical sources and programs. Personally the Double Date feature always had me feeling uneasy but then we’re not talking a great expanse of time within those Double Dates. So it amounts to something akin to “about” or “circa” but with a little more specificity. Brian in CA From:John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields Sherry, Ron, et al, To each our own. I have been using the Unknown date convention for 15+ years with several genealogy programs and never had a problem and, since doing it, I have never had a 400 year old person listed as Private or Living... AND, from my web sites have had lots of folks write me to fill in the details where I did not have it. john. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
You guys can certainly Unknown or any other designation but I'm just pointing out that when you enter anything but actual useful data in a field, it leaves a couple of the great features in Legacy unusable. I particularly love the Missing Information search to help me find what I need to search on. Of course, you could do a detailed search on each field for unknown but that seems like a lot of extra typing to me to enter that therm and then do the Detailed Search when you can do one search with the Missing Info tab. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote: Well that makes at least two of us that have been doing it that way for 15+ years and likewise no problems exposed on this end. The terms Private and Unknown seem to be well recognized by and utilized within other genealogical sources and programs. Personally the Double Date feature always had me feeling uneasy but then we’re not talking a great expanse of time within those Double Dates. So it amounts to something akin to “about” or “circa” but with a little more specificity. Brian in CA *From:* John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com] *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:20 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields Sherry, Ron, et al, To each our own. I have been using the Unknown date convention for 15+ years with several genealogy programs and never had a problem and, since doing it, I have never had a 400 year old person listed as Private or Living... AND, from my web sites have had lots of folks write me to fill in the details where I did not have it. john. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
Look up Dates: Entering Under the heading Entering Dates it shows: You can also enter the following words into any date field*: dead, deceased, child, infant, stillborn* and *young*. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote: You can enter any one of these words in a date field without triggering a Potential Problems alert. dead, deceased, child, young, stillborn, infant I can find no mention in the Help files of using these or similar words. Apart from the standard qualifiers such as about, between, before, after etc, are there any other words that can be used legitimately in a date field? Boyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
Thank you Sherry - I must be going blind! Boyd On 20/12/2013 9:21 a.m., Sherry/Support wrote: Look up Dates: Entering Under the heading Entering Dates it shows: You can also enter the following words into any date field*: dead, deceased, child, infant, stillborn* and *young*. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote: You can enter any one of these words in a date field without triggering a Potential Problems alert. dead, deceased, child, young, stillborn, infant I can find no mention in the Help files of using these or similar words. Apart from the standard qualifiers such as about, between, before, after etc, are there any other words that can be used legitimately in a date field? Boyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
To be honest, I knew those words were in there somewhere and missed them the first couple of readings g. Did you know that when you're in a Help topic, if you press ctrl-F, you can bring up a Find window to search for a specific word? I searched on Stillborn. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote: Thank you Sherry - I must be going blind! Boyd On 20/12/2013 9:21 a.m., Sherry/Support wrote: Look up Dates: Entering Under the heading Entering Dates it shows: You can also enter the following words into any date field*: dead, deceased, child, infant, stillborn* and *young*. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
Sherry, Boyd, et al, You can also use Unknown (or ? or unk) in a date field. There may be a problem using several of those OTHER words in a date field in that if you export to 3rd party product, the other product may not interpret that as a valid date. I prefer to use Unknown is a death date field (as that seems to be universally accepted and then include a death note that might quality the death as Died young, etc. or d.s.p. where appropriate. I should mention that I had an death date on anyone I believe to be deceased. I really hate it when I see a genealogy posted online with someone obviously born 400 years ago listed as living... ;-) john. At 03:21 PM 12/19/2013, Sherry/Support wrote: Look up Dates: Entering Under the heading Entering Dates it shows: You can also enter the following words into any date field: dead, deceased, child, infant, stillborn and young.  Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote: You can enter any one of these words in a date field without triggering a Potential Problems alert. dead, deceased, child, young, stillborn, infant I can find no mention in the Help files of using these or similar words. Apart from the standard qualifiers such as about, between, before, after etc, are there any other words that can be used legitimately in a date field? Boyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
If I do not know a date, and have too little information to use recognised prefixes then I leave the field blank. I do not recommend using anything other than the recognised dates. To do so is simply storing up problems with other programs, GEDCOM driven websites etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote: Sherry, Boyd, et al, You can also use Unknown (or ? or unk) in a date field. There may be a problem using several of those OTHER words in a date field in that if you export to 3rd party product, the other product may not interpret that as a valid date. I prefer to use Unknown is a death date field (as that seems to be universally accepted and then include a death note that might quality the death as Died young, etc. or d.s.p. where appropriate. I should mention that I had an death date on anyone I believe to be deceased. I really hate it when I see a genealogy posted online with someone obviously born 400 years ago listed as living... ;-) john. At 03:21 PM 12/19/2013, Sherry/Support wrote: Look up Dates: Entering Under the heading Entering Dates it shows: You can also enter the following words into any date field: dead, deceased, child, infant, stillborn and young.  Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote: You can enter any one of these words in a date field without triggering a Potential Problems alert. dead, deceased, child, young, stillborn, infant I can find no mention in the Help files of using these or similar words. Apart from the standard qualifiers such as about, between, before, after etc, are there any other words that can be used legitimately in a date field? Boyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
Good point Ron. Adding an unknown in any field keeps you from getting the benefit of the search for Missing Information or including underlines for missing information in reports. In both of these features, Legacy is looking for empty fields and unknown means the field isn't empty! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: If I do not know a date, and have too little information to use recognised prefixes then I leave the field blank. I do not recommend using anything other than the recognised dates. To do so is simply storing up problems with other programs, GEDCOM driven websites etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
Sherry, Ron, et al, To each our own. I have been using the Unknown date convention for 15+ years with several genealogy programs and never had a problem and, since doing it, I have never had a 400 year old person listed as Private or Living... AND, from my web sites have had lots of folks write me to fill in the details where I did not have it. john. At 05:35 PM 12/19/2013, Sherry/Support wrote: Good point Ron. Adding an unknown in any field keeps you from getting the benefit of the search for Missing Information or including underlines for missing information in reports. In both of these features, Legacy is looking for empty fields and unknown means the field isn't empty! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: If I do not know a date, and have too little information to use recognised prefixes then I leave the field blank. I do not recommend using anything other than the recognised dates. To do so is simply storing up problems with other programs, GEDCOM driven websites etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields
Well that makes at least two of us that have been doing it that way for 15+ years and likewise no problems exposed on this end. The terms Private and Unknown seem to be well recognized by and utilized within other genealogical sources and programs. Personally the Double Date feature always had me feeling uneasy but then we’re not talking a great expanse of time within those Double Dates. So it amounts to something akin to “about” or “circa” but with a little more specificity. Brian in CA From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Words in date fields Sherry, Ron, et al, To each our own. I have been using the Unknown date convention for 15+ years with several genealogy programs and never had a problem and, since doing it, I have never had a 400 year old person listed as Private or Living... AND, from my web sites have had lots of folks write me to fill in the details where I did not have it. john. At 05:35 PM 12/19/2013, Sherry/Support wrote: Good point Ron. Adding an unknown in any field keeps you from getting the benefit of the search for Missing Information or including underlines for missing information in reports. In both of these features, Legacy is looking for empty fields and unknown means the field isn't empty! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: If I do not know a date, and have too little information to use recognised prefixes then I leave the field blank. I do not recommend using anything other than the recognised dates. To do so is simply storing up problems with other programs, GEDCOM driven websites etc. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
