RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-27 Thread LegacySupport
We sell it for the same price in our online store on our website.

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The above is the main website for AniMap but I did see a better price at:
http://www.ohanasoftware.com/?adv=googleanimap
It had a bundle price with the tutorial cd for less than just the program
from goldbug direct.

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Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-27 Thread Brenda Halseth
Sherry,  sorry I had not seen the program on the website before, but very 
good to know that you do.  I did go look again and found it under software 
not under the add-ons.  Would it be possible to put it under the add ons as 
well?  Also under software is books  the calender and other CD's, not were 
one would usually look for such items.  You have so many great products that 
I would hate for people to miss them because they are not in a category one 
would think they are under.


Brenda Halseth

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We sell it for the same price in our online store on our website.

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

The above is the main website for AniMap but I did see a better price at:
http://www.ohanasoftware.com/?adv=googleanimap
It had a bundle price with the tutorial cd for less than just the program
from goldbug direct.

Brenda Halseth


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RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-27 Thread LegacySupport
Brenda,

Add-on programs are those which accept the Legacy Family File directly.
Ani-Map doesn't work with Family Files or gedcoms, so it's technically nto
an Add-On.

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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

Sherry,  sorry I had not seen the program on the website before, but very
good to know that you do.  I did go look again and found it under software
not under the add-ons.  Would it be possible to put it under the add ons as
well?  Also under software is books  the calender and other CD's, not were
one would usually look for such items.  You have so many great products that
I would hate for people to miss them because they are not in a category one
would think they are under.

Brenda Halseth


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Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-25 Thread Roxanne
Looks like exactly what I want for the US, thank you!
Is there a comparable program for Europe?

Roxanne Baird

--- Brenda Halseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AniMap is a mapping program that helps you plot
 where a location in America 
 was
 at any given time.  It is very useful in seeing how
 boundary lines changed 
 over time.


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RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-25 Thread cabyers
Please given me the name of the European location program ...

Carol

Elk Grove, CA


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

Looks like exactly what I want for the US, thank you!
Is there a comparable program for Europe?

Roxanne Baird

--- Brenda Halseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AniMap is a mapping program that helps you plot
 where a location in America 
 was
 at any given time.  It is very useful in seeing how
 boundary lines changed 
 over time.


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Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-24 Thread Brenda Halseth
AniMap is a mapping program that helps you plot where a location in America 
was
at any given time.  It is very useful in seeing how boundary lines changed 
over time.

a free demo download is available
http://www.goldbug.com/AniMap.html

The above is the main website for AniMap but I did see a better price at:
http://www.ohanasoftware.com/?adv=googleanimap
It had a bundle price with the tutorial cd for less than just the program 
from goldbug direct.


Brenda Halseth

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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes



--- Steve Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I do, and try to keep places recorded as they were
at the time of the event,
at least in my Legacy files.



I do as well. Does anyone know of a website/database
in which one can search for a country/region and find
the place name for a given time period? I've always
thought such a site would be a great help.

Roxanne Baird

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Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-23 Thread Roxanne
--- Steve Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I do, and try to keep places recorded as they were
 at the time of the event, 
 at least in my Legacy files. 


I do as well. Does anyone know of a website/database
in which one can search for a country/region and find
the place name for a given time period? I've always
thought such a site would be a great help.

Roxanne Baird

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Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-19 Thread Jim Winfrey
The problem with using the place name from the time period the event
occurred is that, without the same amount of work we did to find the
name, other researchers will have a more difficult time working back
up the name trail to find out where the records of the event may be
held.  I try to use the original place name with the evolution of
names in the event notes.  I have ancestors from Alsace-Lorraine too
and not only did the country change over time, the city and township
names changed too.  I think it is important to document the entire
evolution.

Jim

On 2/18/06, Steve Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 18 Feb 2006 at 17:08, M. Brenzel wrote:

  I would like to get opinions regarding locations whose names have
  changed.  More precisely, those that have changed from one county to
  another or from one country to another.
 
  I would assume that you would list a town as it was at the time of the
  event.  For example, a town in Lorraine went from Lorraine to France to
  Prussia to Germany to France and finally back to Germany.  If an
  ancestor was born there in 1811, it was part of France at that time.
  But if a brother was born there in 1816, it was part of Prussia.
 
  In this case, I would have 2 entries in the Location list for the same
  town - 1 for France and 1 for Prussia.
 
  Does everyone agree with me on this?

 I do, and try to keep places recorded as they were at the time of the event,
 at least in my Legacy files.

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RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-19 Thread Katherine Bennett


 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Winfrey
 Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:56 AM
 
 The problem with using the place name from the time period 
 the event occurred is that, without the same amount of work 
 we did to find the name, other researchers will have a more 
 difficult time working back up the name trail to find out 
 where the records of the event may be held.  I try to use the 
 original place name with the evolution of names in the event 
 notes.  I have ancestors from Alsace-Lorraine too and not 
 only did the country change over time, the city and township 
 names changed too.  I think it is important to document the 
 entire evolution.

Amen! Some of my ancestral villages in Bohemia were in Germany, Austria,
Czechoslovakia, and the Czech Republic at various times. I also document
the change in street names and numbers. Chicago renumbered in 1909, and
New Orleans has had several street name changes.

Kathie



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RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-19 Thread M. Brenzel
Isn't that why we document our sources?  If you find the evidence and
document it, then other researchers would have that information.  I can
see placing the evolution of the place in the notes if the event hasn't
been proven.

Mary

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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@mail.millenniacorp.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes


The problem with using the place name from the time period the event
occurred is that, without the same amount of work we did to find the
name, other researchers will have a more difficult time working back up
the name trail to find out where the records of the event may be held.
I try to use the original place name with the evolution of names in the
event notes.  I have ancestors from Alsace-Lorraine too and not only did
the country change over time, the city and township names changed too.
I think it is important to document the entire evolution.

Jim

On 2/18/06, Steve Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 18 Feb 2006 at 17:08, M. Brenzel wrote:

  I would like to get opinions regarding locations whose names have 
  changed.  More precisely, those that have changed from one county to

  another or from one country to another.
 
  I would assume that you would list a town as it was at the time of 
  the event.  For example, a town in Lorraine went from Lorraine to 
  France to Prussia to Germany to France and finally back to Germany.

  If an ancestor was born there in 1811, it was part of France at that

  time. But if a brother was born there in 1816, it was part of 
  Prussia.
 
  In this case, I would have 2 entries in the Location list for the 
  same town - 1 for France and 1 for Prussia.
 
  Does everyone agree with me on this?

 I do, and try to keep places recorded as they were at the time of the 
 event, at least in my Legacy files.

 --
 Steve Hayes
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.geocities.com/hayesstw/stevesig.htm
 Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727



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RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-19 Thread Coddgenealogy
 I decided to use modern names in the Birth, Death, Event, etc. Place
fields, but then I use Legacy as a database to organize knowledge,
documentation, and sources, not as a software equivalent of historical
reenactment. Filling such key data fields with stuff that no longer
exists makes research harder, as records mostly reside in the modern
versions of place.  Everyone knows that counties and territories
subdivided; defunct geographies, orthographies, entities, are assumed.
If antequated names are relevant, I put them in any of the many fields
that hold explanatory notes.  One often needs to know the history of
place to interpret a record, but I'd rather optimize the data to
interact with modern-day life (on line databases, GIS) than
recapitulating the past.
Jonathan
  


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Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-19 Thread Steve Hayes
On 19 Feb 2006 at 7:55, Jim Winfrey wrote:

 The problem with using the place name from the time period the event
 occurred is that, without the same amount of work we did to find the
 name, other researchers will have a more difficult time working back
 up the name trail to find out where the records of the event may be
 held.  I try to use the original place name with the evolution of
 names in the event notes.  I have ancestors from Alsace-Lorraine too
 and not only did the country change over time, the city and township
 names changed too.  I think it is important to document the entire
 evolution.

I use modern place names in the programs I use for research notes, so that I 
can sort on place and find how many people came from there. 

But my Legacy main database is my basic family history, so I try to be 
historically accurate, and avoid anachronisms, like the school child's catcxh 
question about finding a coin dated 43 BC. 

So I try as far as possible to use place names that were used at the time.



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Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-19 Thread Tom Montgomery
I agree with Jonathan's approach. Why make life more difficult? I use 
parenthesis to reflect the original such as Lawrenceville (was 
Maidenhead), Mercer County, New Jersey. If the county is different I do 
the same there - Monmouth County (now Mercer County ) or the like. If 
necessary additional data (such as dates, etc.) can go into events or 
notes. I have found that the great majority of the people who peruse my 
info are not into genealogy as such but just generally interested in the 
family. Using the contemporary location as the primary is something they 
can relate to - will tell you very quickly that you have the wrong 
community in the wrong county, etc. You must then explain to the elderly 
great aunt what it is all about and this she will (sometimes 
intentionally), not understand  - many just find it confusing and simply 
loose interest. I prefer to be practical about these things, not 
technically correct. The technically correct will still have the info 
and can change to whatever they feel is proper - makes no nevermind to 
me.


TomM

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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes



I decided to use modern names in the Birth, Death, Event, etc. Place
fields, but then I use Legacy as a database to organize knowledge,
documentation, and sources, not as a software equivalent of historical
reenactment. Filling such key data fields with stuff that no longer
exists makes research harder, as records mostly reside in the modern
versions of place.  Everyone knows that counties and territories
subdivided; defunct geographies, orthographies, entities, are assumed.
If antequated names are relevant, I put them in any of the many fields
that hold explanatory notes.  One often needs to know the history of
place to interpret a record, but I'd rather optimize the data to
interact with modern-day life (on line databases, GIS) than
recapitulating the past.
Jonathan



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RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-19 Thread cabyers
Using the modern address can create a real problem for researchers when
trying to locate documents.  My ancestors settled in what is now Hopewell
Twp., Mercer, New Jersey. They arrive in that area in about 1680 and the
area was called West Jersey. In 1710 it became part of Burlington, in 1714
it became part of Hunterdon County, in 1839 was assigned to Mercer County,
in 1844 was re-assigned to Hunterdon, and from 1845 until this day was part
of Mercer County.

When searching for your ancestor's records you need to search the
jurisdiction where the records were created.  If I had only look for records
in Mercer County, I would have lost 159 years of possible records.

So, I always list the place name and jurisdiction of where event occurred at
the time.

Carol

Elk Grove, CA

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Montgomery
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:51 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@mail.millenniacorp.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

I agree with Jonathan's approach. Why make life more difficult? I use 
parenthesis to reflect the original such as Lawrenceville (was 
Maidenhead), Mercer County, New Jersey. If the county is different I do 
the same there - Monmouth County (now Mercer County ) or the like. If 
necessary additional data (such as dates, etc.) can go into events or 
notes. I have found that the great majority of the people who peruse my 
info are not into genealogy as such but just generally interested in the 
family. Using the contemporary location as the primary is something they 
can relate to - will tell you very quickly that you have the wrong 
community in the wrong county, etc. You must then explain to the elderly 
great aunt what it is all about and this she will (sometimes 
intentionally), not understand  - many just find it confusing and simply 
loose interest. I prefer to be practical about these things, not 
technically correct. The technically correct will still have the info 
and can change to whatever they feel is proper - makes no nevermind to 
me.

TomM

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes


 I decided to use modern names in the Birth, Death, Event, etc. Place
 fields, but then I use Legacy as a database to organize knowledge,
 documentation, and sources, not as a software equivalent of historical
 reenactment. Filling such key data fields with stuff that no longer
 exists makes research harder, as records mostly reside in the modern
 versions of place.  Everyone knows that counties and territories
 subdivided; defunct geographies, orthographies, entities, are assumed.
 If antequated names are relevant, I put them in any of the many fields
 that hold explanatory notes.  One often needs to know the history of
 place to interpret a record, but I'd rather optimize the data to
 interact with modern-day life (on line databases, GIS) than
 recapitulating the past.
 Jonathan



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Re: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-18 Thread Steve Hayes
On 18 Feb 2006 at 17:08, M. Brenzel wrote:

 I would like to get opinions regarding locations whose names have
 changed.  More precisely, those that have changed from one county to
 another or from one country to another.
 
 I would assume that you would list a town as it was at the time of the
 event.  For example, a town in Lorraine went from Lorraine to France to
 Prussia to Germany to France and finally back to Germany.  If an
 ancestor was born there in 1811, it was part of France at that time.
 But if a brother was born there in 1816, it was part of Prussia.
 
 In this case, I would have 2 entries in the Location list for the same
 town - 1 for France and 1 for Prussia.
 
 Does everyone agree with me on this?

I do, and try to keep places recorded as they were at the time of the event, 
at least in my Legacy files. 

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RE: [LegacyUG] location name changes

2006-02-18 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Mary:

The rule is to list the location as it was at the time, which does result in
the variations you described.  I've always been bothered, for example, by
files that show pre-1776 American dates with locations as USA.  That said,
I have ancestors from small European villages in principalities with names
that no one would recognize, or in principalities that I can't accurately
determine.  My solution is to show Village Name, , now Germany--since
Germany didn't exist at the date of the event.  I'd be curious about the
reaction of others to this method.

Kirsten Bowman


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Subject: [LegacyUG] location name changes


I would like to get opinions regarding locations whose names have
changed.  More precisely, those that have changed from one county to
another or from one country to another.

I would assume that you would list a town as it was at the time of the
event.  For example, a town in Lorraine went from Lorraine to France to
Prussia to Germany to France and finally back to Germany.  If an
ancestor was born there in 1811, it was part of France at that time.
But if a brother was born there in 1816, it was part of Prussia.

In this case, I would have 2 entries in the Location list for the same
town - 1 for France and 1 for Prussia.

Does everyone agree with me on this?

Mary



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