Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

On 11/21/2014 09:08 PM, Josh Livni wrote:
 We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
 Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage
 of Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the condition
 that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
 imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.
 
 This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
 source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.

This probably calls for two things:

1. We will need a complete catalogue of HOT activations with exact time
when they start and end and polygon for which the activation is valid,
because any data that has a Skybox attribution and falls outside these
spatio-temporal limits has to be removed.

I guess such a list probably exists somewhere in HOT but it now becomes
important for the wider community because for the first time there's a
relationship between the exact time and region of a HOT activation and
whether or not certain data is legal to to keep in OSM or not.

2. The methods by which our common editors select aerial imagery to
offer to the user should be extended to be able to accommodate the
information that certain imagery is only allowed inside certain polygons
and certain timeframes (and editors would ideally have to pop up a
warning if what you're currently mapping is outside of such a
spatio-temporal window).

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Skybox for Good imagery

2014-11-22 Thread Stephan Knauss

Hello,

On 22.11.2014 18:19, Frederik Ramm wrote:

On 11/21/2014 09:08 PM, Josh Livni wrote:

We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage
of Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the condition
that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.

This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.


This probably calls for two things:

1. We will need a complete catalogue of HOT activations with exact time
when they start and end and polygon for which the activation is valid,
because any data that has a Skybox attribution and falls outside these
spatio-temporal limits has to be removed.


I think it's very kind of Skybox to allow us to use their imagery to 
improve OSM and do some good.


To make things not more complicated than they need to be:
Could Google/Skybox provide a specific URL for each imagery set and give 
permission to use this imagery indefinitely as the original intent was 
for a HOT activation and assuming we credit the source in the changeset 
accordingly? Sounds a lot easier than having to implement bounding 
polygon checks and correlate this with date and time.


I don't know details of how you provide the data, but according to this 
page it's geotiff files.

https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0

That file would be either opened directly in JOSM using a plugin or 
served by HOT/3rd party as tiled bitmaps.


Is this something you could consider making the usage of the imagery 
easier from a legal point of view?



Thank you,

Stephan


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