Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps
I believe that the attention of anyone would be some great help. This is also great direction. How about it, kind of Google Summer of Code for UX students? Amazing idea. -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Michael Oren wrote: I am a UX person (more heavily on the research end than the design end, although I've done both). I'm not sure I can commit to working on this, but I'm also teaching an HCI course in the Fall and can present something to the students as an option for their projects. It's an introductory course though so their skill levels will likely be low. -Mike -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps
Okay great! So there are some in support to this, how to start? * Choose 1 project * Get author approval * Find designer * Get estimate * Research crowdfund sites * Build campaign Should we vote this first one? My hand goes up to the Jitsi! -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Jerzy Łogiewa jerz...@interia.eu wrote: * Research crowdfund sites Mozilla posted a related article recently that may be worth keeping in mind. A common element to the more successful campaigns I've seen: before starting on Kickstarter or Indiegogo they're already running a campaign on their own websites. Anyway, Mozilla provides a tutorial on setting up one's own crowdfunding site: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/07/so-you-wanna-build-a-crowdfunding-site/ Technically it's not very difficult; there does appear to be a geographic requirement with Balanced Payments however - accepting payments is US only. -- Scott Elcomb @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca / Github more Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems http://code.google.com/p/atomos/ Member of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps
I think it's important that we distinguish between User Interface and User EXPERIENCE. The less effort it takes for the user to accomplish the task the better, and IMHO a thoughtful UX helps more here than a shiny UI , though a good UI is a vital component of good UX. Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: Okay great! So there are some in support to this, how to start? * Choose 1 project * Get author approval * Find designer * Get estimate * Research crowdfund sites * Build campaign Digging the call to action! Should we vote this first one? My hand goes up to the Jitsi! +1 Jitsi! -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps
I am a UX person (more heavily on the research end than the design end, although I've done both). I'm not sure I can commit to working on this, but I'm also teaching an HCI course in the Fall and can present something to the students as an option for their projects. It's an introductory course though so their skill levels will likely be low. -Mike On Monday, July 15, 2013, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: Okay great! So there are some in support to this, how to start? * Choose 1 project * Get author approval * Find designer * Get estimate * Research crowdfund sites * Build campaign Should we vote this first one? My hand goes up to the Jitsi! -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps
On 13 July 2013 20:42, Travis McCrea m...@travismccrea.com wrote: I have talked about this in the past, we need to make things look nice otherwise they are not going to be used and they lose their security advantages. I will give a case and point, I recently revoked my old GPG key because it's been active for over a year and I know that my computer has been out of my sight with customs agents a lot lately. I haven't generated a new key because then I have to open up a terminal and go through the process of making a key and then saving my key, etc. If I had a mail client with GPG integrated told me hey your key is a year old! do you want to have it recreated? I could click yes, and have the GUI guide me through key creation, it would update all my mail settings and key servers and life would be good. Because it doesn't do that, I have been not signing my emails for a week or so now waiting to get around to setting it up. I use Skype instead of Jitsi, and honestly when I need to have a conference with someone I tell them you should just download Skype, I don't want to have to guide them through a program that was clearly developed by engineer brained people TL;DR - Shiny things make me use the product more, if someone creates a crowd sourcing campaign for designers I would contribute. +1. On 2013-07-13, at 2:43 PM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: Jitsi -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
[liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps
Hello! There are some talks here about new Heml.is. Let us be real: The messenger is one of many like it and without full source we cannot trust! But many have made this true point that looks and design matter. So, I propose crowdfund of UX and UI man salary for this apps: * Jitsi (many nice features but needs many helps for UI) * Pidgin + OTR plugin (maybe a new installer?) * RedPhone * TextSecure I would like to recommend for example Jitsi to grandma, but it is now a bad experience for even me. So why not crowdfund the help? When secure versions are not used because they are so-called ugly, there is a total waste of possibilities! Has it ever tried before? -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps
I have talked about this in the past, we need to make things look nice otherwise they are not going to be used and they lose their security advantages. I will give a case and point, I recently revoked my old GPG key because it's been active for over a year and I know that my computer has been out of my sight with customs agents a lot lately. I haven't generated a new key because then I have to open up a terminal and go through the process of making a key and then saving my key, etc. If I had a mail client with GPG integrated told me hey your key is a year old! do you want to have it recreated? I could click yes, and have the GUI guide me through key creation, it would update all my mail settings and key servers and life would be good. Because it doesn't do that, I have been not signing my emails for a week or so now waiting to get around to setting it up. I use Skype instead of Jitsi, and honestly when I need to have a conference with someone I tell them you should just download Skype, I don't want to have to guide them through a program that was clearly developed by engineer brained people TL;DR - Shiny things make me use the product more, if someone creates a crowd sourcing campaign for designers I would contribute. On 2013-07-13, at 2:43 PM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: Jitsi -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps
Usability is certainly one of the most neglected security properties of almost every software. Jitsi is pretty dang good from a security standpoint, but fails miserably from a usability perspective. This is not an insurmountable problem. Even GPG4win has problems with user experience. When people wonder out loud how something like Skype can dominate the market in spite of one of the worst security records, the answer is that they make it so easy to use that it becomes the obvious choice. People use it, like it, recommend it to friends. The network effect dominates software marketing. For projects with funding, there is no excuse for bad user experience. Failing to make graphics and usability a funding priority will absolutely make it harder to find and keep active users. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
