[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Okay, I read the article.  I too, am a long-standing member of the 
American Legion.  

I didn't see anything in the article that indicated that the 
American Legion was calling for infringements on American's rights 
to freedom of speech.  

They urged fellow Americans, to protest in other ways, but nothing 
about legislation to outlaw such activities.

Overall, I'd have to say, as an American Legion Member, I agree with 
their stance.  AND I'M A PROUD LIBERTARIAN TOO!!


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wrote:
 The Police State is slowly taking over all institutions. Welcome 
to the 
 last days of the Weimar Republic.
 
 M
 
 David Macko wrote:
 
 As a member of the American Legion since 1974 and a life member, I
 am outraged that the American Legion would essentially vote to 
abolish
 the First Amendment.
 I intend to make very clear that I, unlike the 4000 delegates to 
the
 American Legion National Convention, do not support Bush's 
unconstitutional,
 unnecessary, terrorist-producing. lie-based war on Iraq.
 Here is the entire article regarding Thomas Cadmus' statement:
 http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_082505J.shtml 
 
 For life and liberty,
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[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
There's nothing in the article to indicate that the American Legion 
supports legislative moves to outlaw freedom of speech.  

They are just urging their fellow Americans to exercise caution in 
their protestations, and consider the fact that their actions might 
cause dire consequences for the troops in the field.

Ahem, I happen to agree with their stance.  


--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 True, when those in disagreement with the prevailing thought 
pattern or
 leadership leave an organization it does indeed increase the 
proportion of
 ignorant, stupid and evil people.  I wish you luck in reforming 
the
 organization from within.  Personally, I cannot resume writing a 
dues check
 that goes toward funding anti-liberty initiatives such as 
attempting to
 stifle anti-war activism by labeling it aiding the enemy or by 
pissing all
 over the First Amendment by outlawing the burning of colored cloth.
 
  
 
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 From: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of David Macko
 Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:45 AM
 To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
Amendment
 
  
 
 While I sympathize with your desire to disassociate yourself from
 error, stupidity or worse, I intend to retain my membership since
 I think I can criticize more effectively from within. I may even 
wear
 my Legion cap at an antiwar demonstration.
 The problem with good people leaving the American Legion or the
 Libertarian Party over a disagreement, however valid, is that this 
increases
 the proportion and influence of the ignorant, stupid and evil 
people who
 don't quit.
 
 For life and liberty,
 David Macko
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
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[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
You go ahead and wear your American Legion hat at an anti-War 
rally.  I've got the weekend off and am strongly considering going 
on up to Crawford, about a 2 1/2 hour drive for me, and waving a 
Sign, Libertarians Support The War, The President  Our Troops.

Just gotta check the funds, and if everything's okay, it's a go Dude!

I'll try to get in front of as many TV Cameras as I possible can, 
and to tell as many people as possible Don't believe the hype; 
Libertarians are not all anti-War Pussy-Boys who support Osama bin 
Laden, Saddam Hussein and Other Terrorists.




--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 While I sympathize with your desire to disassociate yourself from
 error, stupidity or worse, I intend to retain my membership since
 I think I can criticize more effectively from within. I may even 
wear
 my Legion cap at an antiwar demonstration.
 The problem with good people leaving the American Legion or the
 Libertarian Party over a disagreement, however valid, is that this 
increases
 the proportion and influence of the ignorant, stupid and evil 
people who
 don't quit.
 
 For life and liberty,
 David Macko
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:01 AM
 Subject: RE: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
Amendment
 
 
 I dropped my membership years ago over their enthusiasm for 
statist flag
  desecration amendments.  I recently received another come 
back to us
  letter.  Fat chance of that now.
 
 
 
  
__
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   _
 
  From: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Macko
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:57 AM
  To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: Libertarians For Life; Libertarians for Peace;
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Badnarik 2006; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  badnarik2008@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
Amendment
 
 
 
  As a member of the American Legion since 1974 and a life member, 
I
  am outraged that the American Legion would essentially vote to 
abolish
  the First Amendment.
  I intend to make very clear that I, unlike the 4000 delegates to 
the
  American Legion National Convention, do not support Bush's 
  unconstitutional,
  unnecessary, terrorist-producing. lie-based war on Iraq.
  Here is the entire article regarding Thomas Cadmus' statement:
  http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_082505J.shtml
 
  For life and liberty,
  David Macko






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Re: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
That figures.

Dave Macko

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:35 PM
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment


 There's nothing in the article to indicate that the American Legion 
 supports legislative moves to outlaw freedom of speech.  
 
 They are just urging their fellow Americans to exercise caution in 
 their protestations, and consider the fact that their actions might 
 cause dire consequences for the troops in the field.
 
 Ahem, I happen to agree with their stance.  
 
 
 --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 True, when those in disagreement with the prevailing thought 
 pattern or
 leadership leave an organization it does indeed increase the 
 proportion of
 ignorant, stupid and evil people.  I wish you luck in reforming 
 the
 organization from within.  Personally, I cannot resume writing a 
 dues check
 that goes toward funding anti-liberty initiatives such as 
 attempting to
 stifle anti-war activism by labeling it aiding the enemy or by 
 pissing all
 over the First Amendment by outlawing the burning of colored cloth.
 
  
 
 __
 James Landrith
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547
 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159
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 http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/
 http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/
 __
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of David Macko
 Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:45 AM
 To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
 Amendment
 
  
 
 While I sympathize with your desire to disassociate yourself from
 error, stupidity or worse, I intend to retain my membership since
 I think I can criticize more effectively from within. I may even 
 wear
 my Legion cap at an antiwar demonstration.
 The problem with good people leaving the American Legion or the
 Libertarian Party over a disagreement, however valid, is that this 
 increases
 the proportion and influence of the ignorant, stupid and evil 
 people who
 don't quit.
 
 For life and liberty,
 David Macko



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Re: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
I would sue for slander except that you must prove damage which generally
means someone must believe the slander.

Dave Macko

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:45 PM
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment


 You go ahead and wear your American Legion hat at an anti-War 
 rally.  I've got the weekend off and am strongly considering going 
 on up to Crawford, about a 2 1/2 hour drive for me, and waving a 
 Sign, Libertarians Support The War, The President  Our Troops.
 
 Just gotta check the funds, and if everything's okay, it's a go Dude!
 
 I'll try to get in front of as many TV Cameras as I possible can, 
 and to tell as many people as possible Don't believe the hype; 
 Libertarians are not all anti-War Pussy-Boys who support Osama bin 
 Laden, Saddam Hussein and Other Terrorists.
 
 
 
 
 --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 While I sympathize with your desire to disassociate yourself from
 error, stupidity or worse, I intend to retain my membership since
 I think I can criticize more effectively from within. I may even 
 wear
 my Legion cap at an antiwar demonstration.
 The problem with good people leaving the American Legion or the
 Libertarian Party over a disagreement, however valid, is that this 
 increases
 the proportion and influence of the ignorant, stupid and evil 
 people who
 don't quit.
 
 For life and liberty,
 David Macko
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:01 AM
 Subject: RE: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
 Amendment
 
 
 I dropped my membership years ago over their enthusiasm for 
 statist flag
  desecration amendments.  I recently received another come 
 back to us
  letter.  Fat chance of that now.
 
 
 
  
 __
  James Landrith
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547
  AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159
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  http://www.multiracial.com
  The Abolitionist Examiner -  
 http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/
  http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/
  
 __
 
 
 
   _
 
  From: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Macko
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:57 AM
  To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: Libertarians For Life; Libertarians for Peace;
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Badnarik 2006; 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  badnarik2008@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
 Amendment
 
 
 
  As a member of the American Legion since 1974 and a life member, 
 I
  am outraged that the American Legion would essentially vote to 
 abolish
  the First Amendment.
  I intend to make very clear that I, unlike the 4000 delegates to 
 the
  American Legion National Convention, do not support Bush's 
  unconstitutional,
  unnecessary, terrorist-producing. lie-based war on Iraq.
  Here is the entire article regarding Thomas Cadmus' statement:
  http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_082505J.shtml
 
  For life and liberty,
  David Macko



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Re: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread james
They are equating anti-war, First Amendment protected speech with
providing comfort and aid to the enemy.  This is an attempt to outlaw
freedom of speech via serious false accusations that can land someone in
jail.

Quite frankly, you previously referred to Bush as an extreme libertarian
in this very forum.  The fact that you agree with this anti-liberty
position and attempt to suppress the First Amendment by labeling those in
disagreement as aiding the enemy is not surprising.

Ahem, no one who believes that Bush is an extreme libertarian and who
also believes that beating someone to death in the street for burning a
flag doesn't violate their First Amendment rights could be expected to be
a rational individual.

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 There's nothing in the article to indicate that the American Legion
  supports legislative moves to outlaw freedom of speech.

  They are just urging their fellow Americans to exercise caution in
  their protestations, and consider the fact that their actions might
  cause dire consequences for the troops in the field.

  Ahem, I happen to agree with their stance.




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Re: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Marlon Machado
Quote from the article: ...the group's national commander called for an 
end to all 'public protests' and 'media events' against the war, even 
though they are protected by the Bill of Rights. Does it mean he's OK 
with public demonstrations in favor of the war? It looks like it.

When they say  that The delegates voted to use whatever means necessary 
to 'ensure the united backing of the American people to support our 
troops and the global war on terrorism.' it sounds like a gang of 
stormtroopers vowing to crack the skulls of those who oppose the 
government's wisdom. Using the phrase whatever means necessary can be 
scary.

Again, live and let live. Those who want to protest against the war have 
every right to do so. If the media wants to cover those protests, it's 
their right to do so. If anyone has a problem with that, all they have 
to do is turn the radio or the TV off and get on with their lives.

M

Eric Dondero Rittberg wrote:

Okay, I read the article.  I too, am a long-standing member of the 
American Legion.  

I didn't see anything in the article that indicated that the 
American Legion was calling for infringements on American's rights 
to freedom of speech.  

They urged fellow Americans, to protest in other ways, but nothing 
about legislation to outlaw such activities.

Overall, I'd have to say, as an American Legion Member, I agree with 
their stance.  AND I'M A PROUD LIBERTARIAN TOO!!


--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Marlon Machado [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  

The Police State is slowly taking over all institutions. Welcome 


to the 
  

last days of the Weimar Republic.

M

David Macko wrote:



As a member of the American Legion since 1974 and a life member, I
am outraged that the American Legion would essentially vote to 
  

abolish
  

the First Amendment.
I intend to make very clear that I, unlike the 4000 delegates to 
  

the
  

American Legion National Convention, do not support Bush's 
  

unconstitutional,
  

unnecessary, terrorist-producing. lie-based war on Iraq.
Here is the entire article regarding Thomas Cadmus' statement:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_082505J.shtml 

For life and liberty,
David Macko

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[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread uncoolrabbit
I will remain with the Legion myself, but having joined the Armed 
Forces to defend the Constitution and the People of our country, I 
can't say I agree totaly with the afore mentioned statements.

Iraq is a complex issue, while I was against going to war with Iraq 
from the start, I am also against leaving Iraq before it is secure. 
I wasn't a veteran of Korea or Vietnam, so maybee it is harder for 
me to identify with many of the legion, but the manner in wich we 
left Iraq in the first gulf war was a mistake equally as great as 
declaring the second gold war. I would hate to see our country leave 
the Iraqi's yet again with unfilled promises and a dismal future. I 
would rather of not has us go there at all, but now that we have I 
belive we do have a responsibility to stay the course.

Our troops need support, but not at the cost of the very things 
every member of the Legion swore at one time to protect. Protesters 
such as the mother that camped out at Bush's ranch are a nesecity, 
Bush is sheltered and rarely acknowledges consequences of his 
actions. If the country ops out of expressing those consequences to 
him, as his advisors aparently have, would he not be emboldened as 
it is feared the terrorists would be threw protest? 

I think they can put there Jane Fonda fears to rest, I have a strong 
feeling Osama and Zarqawi won't be embracing any Holywood Icons in 
the near future.

Rabbit

--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 While I sympathize with your desire to disassociate yourself from
 error, stupidity or worse, I intend to retain my membership since
 I think I can criticize more effectively from within. I may even 
wear
 my Legion cap at an antiwar demonstration.
 The problem with good people leaving the American Legion or the
 Libertarian Party over a disagreement, however valid, is that this 
increases
 the proportion and influence of the ignorant, stupid and evil 
people who
 don't quit.
 
 For life and liberty,
 David Macko
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:01 AM
 Subject: RE: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
Amendment
 
 
 I dropped my membership years ago over their enthusiasm for 
statist flag
  desecration amendments.  I recently received another come 
back to us
  letter.  Fat chance of that now.
 
 
 
  
__
  James Landrith
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547
  AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159
  MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith
  Taking the Gloves Off -  http://www.jameslandrith.com
  http://www.jameslandrith.com
  The Multiracial Activist -  http://www.multiracial.com
  http://www.multiracial.com
  The Abolitionist Examiner -  
http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/
  http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/
  
__
 
 
 
   _
 
  From: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Macko
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:57 AM
  To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: Libertarians For Life; Libertarians for Peace;
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Badnarik 2006; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  badnarik2008@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
Amendment
 
 
 
  As a member of the American Legion since 1974 and a life member, 
I
  am outraged that the American Legion would essentially vote to 
abolish
  the First Amendment.
  I intend to make very clear that I, unlike the 4000 delegates to 
the
  American Legion National Convention, do not support Bush's 
  unconstitutional,
  unnecessary, terrorist-producing. lie-based war on Iraq.
  Here is the entire article regarding Thomas Cadmus' statement:
  http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_082505J.shtml
 
  For life and liberty,
  David Macko






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[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
No, all libertarians are not pussies, cowards, liars, or idiots.  But
you are all of the above and I'll happily tell you to your face.



--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Eric Dondero Rittberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You go ahead and wear your American Legion hat at an anti-War 
 rally.  I've got the weekend off and am strongly considering going 
 on up to Crawford, about a 2 1/2 hour drive for me, and waving a 
 Sign, Libertarians Support The War, The President  Our Troops.
 
 Just gotta check the funds, and if everything's okay, it's a go Dude!
 
 I'll try to get in front of as many TV Cameras as I possible can, 
 and to tell as many people as possible Don't believe the hype; 
 Libertarians are not all anti-War Pussy-Boys who support Osama bin 
 Laden, Saddam Hussein and Other Terrorists.
 
 
 
 
 --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  While I sympathize with your desire to disassociate yourself from
  error, stupidity or worse, I intend to retain my membership since
  I think I can criticize more effectively from within. I may even 
 wear
  my Legion cap at an antiwar demonstration.
  The problem with good people leaving the American Legion or the
  Libertarian Party over a disagreement, however valid, is that this 
 increases
  the proportion and influence of the ignorant, stupid and evil 
 people who
  don't quit.
  
  For life and liberty,
  David Macko
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:01 AM
  Subject: RE: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
 Amendment
  
  
  I dropped my membership years ago over their enthusiasm for 
 statist flag
   desecration amendments.  I recently received another come 
 back to us
   letter.  Fat chance of that now.
  
  
  
   
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   From: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of David Macko
   Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:57 AM
   To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
   Cc: Libertarians For Life; Libertarians for Peace;
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Badnarik 2006; 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   badnarik2008@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
 Amendment
  
  
  
   As a member of the American Legion since 1974 and a life member, 
 I
   am outraged that the American Legion would essentially vote to 
 abolish
   the First Amendment.
   I intend to make very clear that I, unlike the 4000 delegates to 
 the
   American Legion National Convention, do not support Bush's 
   unconstitutional,
   unnecessary, terrorist-producing. lie-based war on Iraq.
   Here is the entire article regarding Thomas Cadmus' statement:
   http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_082505J.shtml
  
   For life and liberty,
   David Macko





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[Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First Amendment

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
That would be tough.  There are almost no sane people with enough
intelligence to be capable of human speech, who would actually believe
anything Eric has to say.



--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would sue for slander except that you must prove damage which
generally
 means someone must believe the slander.
 
 Dave Macko
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:45 PM
 Subject: [Libertarian] Re: American Legion votes to abolish First
Amendment
 
 
  You go ahead and wear your American Legion hat at an anti-War 
  rally.  I've got the weekend off and am strongly considering going 
  on up to Crawford, about a 2 1/2 hour drive for me, and waving a 
  Sign, Libertarians Support The War, The President  Our Troops.
  
  Just gotta check the funds, and if everything's okay, it's a go Dude!
  
  I'll try to get in front of as many TV Cameras as I possible can, 
  and to tell as many people as possible Don't believe the hype; 
  Libertarians are not all anti-War Pussy-Boys who support Osama bin 
  Laden, Saddam Hussein and Other Terrorists.
  
  
  
  
  --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  While I sympathize with your desire to disassociate yourself from
  error, stupidity or worse, I intend to retain my membership since
  I think I can criticize more effectively from within. I may even 
  wear
  my Legion cap at an antiwar demonstration.
  The problem with good people leaving the American Legion or the
  Libertarian Party over a disagreement, however valid, is that this 
  increases
  the proportion and influence of the ignorant, stupid and evil 
  people who
  don't quit.
  
  For life and liberty,
  David Macko
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:01 AM
  Subject: RE: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
  Amendment
  
  
  I dropped my membership years ago over their enthusiasm for 
  statist flag
   desecration amendments.  I recently received another come 
  back to us
   letter.  Fat chance of that now.
  
  
  
   
  __
   James Landrith
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547
   AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159
   MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith
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   http://www.multiracial.com
   The Abolitionist Examiner -  
  http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/
   http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/
   
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   From: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of David Macko
   Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:57 AM
   To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
   Cc: Libertarians For Life; Libertarians for Peace;
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Badnarik 2006; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   badnarik2008@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Libertarian] American Legion votes to abolish First 
  Amendment
  
  
  
   As a member of the American Legion since 1974 and a life member, 
  I
   am outraged that the American Legion would essentially vote to 
  abolish
   the First Amendment.
   I intend to make very clear that I, unlike the 4000 delegates to 
  the
   American Legion National Convention, do not support Bush's 
   unconstitutional,
   unnecessary, terrorist-producing. lie-based war on Iraq.
   Here is the entire article regarding Thomas Cadmus' statement:
   http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_082505J.shtml
  
   For life and liberty,
   David Macko




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