Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
Tor Lillqvist-2 wrote >> Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s sad to see how many reactionaries there are in > this so-called community. "Reactionary" me?! I'm offended! No, just joking of course :-) In this situation I don't consider to be a "reactionary" is negative here so no pb. Hopefully in a community, we can have different points of view but have the same purpose (and can advance towards it! :-)). A community where 100% of people are agree on every subjects looks like a bit scary to me, and make me think about kind of sect. Hope there won't be too soon any reeducation centers to show the "true" path for people like me! :-) Even if my previous message was just plain irony to cover some anger and sadness, you can at least enjoy being in the "good"/"right" side :-) Julien -- Sent from: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Dev-f1639786.html ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
khagaroth wrote > Don't you dare to assume a gender. To be gender neutral, how about using > "WOKE". It seems you jump the gun here! :-) Before thinking about those who may be offended about gender, first you must deal with: - all references to "master" must disappear : master doc (there's already a bugtracker about this one whereas I thought decision wasn't taken yet for git branch, whatever...) master slide, etc. - then all black/white references (after "blacklist" and "whitelist" perhaps some have been forgotten) - then very important, to replace all "command" words (let's be coherent!! :-)) - also "abort" expression to replace because there are people who are against abortion. then only you can begin all the gender related terms: civility, male, female, etc. After all these removes and certainly lots of to come, I think dictionaries gonna become quickly light in very few years! Of course perhaps I just exagerate here :-P Julien -- Sent from: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Dev-f1639786.html ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
Not reactionaries or a*holes. Just realists. You maybe don't know about the situation in some other fields that were infected by woke agenda first, but some people do and they react accordingly. Look at the toxic cancel culture in Twitter and in the entertainment industry (search for "Gina Carano aftermath" or "Bill Burr minority sex servant"), the disastrous state of american comics (search for snowflake and safespace), the sad state of iconic franchises as Star Trek (STD, Picard), Doctor Who (sad face), Star Wars etc. etc., all in the name of woke. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 4:17 PM Tor Lillqvist wrote: > > 1984 here we come .. > > Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s sad to see how many reactionaries there are in > this so-called community. > > —tml > ___ > LibreOffice mailing list > LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice > ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
Hi all, The decision taken by the ESC is readable here: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2021-March/087107.html "change when git does, if not before – re-visit in 3 months" Please let's end this thread, its purpose was to discuss the agenda for yesterday's meeting, which is now over. Thanks a lot, Miklos ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
What else would you call that? Did you look at the examples I listed. Those people appear to act in the best interest of the minorities, but if they get called out at their bull by said minorities, they dis them (re Bill Burrs [black] wife who was called "minority sex servant" by one such a*hole after shooting them down for calling her husband racist). On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 4:45 PM Tor Lillqvist wrote: > > woke agenda > > You really want to remove any doubts, do you? > > --tml > ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
> woke agenda You really want to remove any doubts, do you? --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
> Can we at least keep our language clean on this mailing list? OK. I won't say "reactionary" then, but "a*hole". --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
Can we at least keep our language clean on this mailing list? Dan On 3/26/21 11:17 AM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > 1984 here we come .. Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s sad to see how many reactionaries there are in this so-called community. —tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
> 1984 here we come .. Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s sad to see how many reactionaries there are in this so-called community. —tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
On 26/03/2021 14:03, julien2412 wrote: After all these removes and certainly lots of to come, I think dictionaries gonna become quickly light in very few years! Of course perhaps I just exagerate here:-P 1984 here we come ... Cheers, Wol ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 8:13 PM Eike Rathke wrote: > we would have to decide on female 'gata' or male 'gato' > Don't you dare to assume a gender. To be gender neutral, how about using "WOKE". ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
Hi, On Thursday, 2021-03-25 07:52:27 +, antlists wrote: > On 24/03/2021 23:53, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > > antlists wrote: > > > For those who get the Rossini, my favourite would be "gatti" (or > > > whatever the singular form is). gatto (male) or gatta (female) > > I like where this is going. :) > > something as violently efficient as '__aa' - to make sure the most > > important branch always comes out top? > Trouble is, __aa is six keystrokes on my keyboard, while gatti is five. 'dog' is only three keystrokes and 'god' reverse, so we could blame everything wrong going on that. Also "eat your own dog food". I'm for 'cat' though, but 'squirrel' would be nicer (for personal reasons). To cater for non-English languages we could choose Spanish, we would have to decide on female 'gata' or male 'gato' which is even only four keystrokes. 'ardilla' (nice sounding squirrel). SCNR Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
On 24/03/2021 23:53, Thorsten Behrens wrote: antlists wrote: For those who get the Rossini, my favourite would be "gatti" (or whatever the singular form is). I like where this is going. :) Since I was outed as a German already in this discussion, how about something as violently efficient as '__aa' - to make sure the most important branch always comes out top? Miiiouww! Trouble is, __aa is six keystrokes on my keyboard, while gatti is five. Cheers, Wol ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
antlists wrote: > For those who get the Rossini, my favourite would be "gatti" (or > whatever the singular form is). > I like where this is going. :) Since I was outed as a German already in this discussion, how about something as violently efficient as '__aa' - to make sure the most important branch always comes out top? Cheers, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal
On 24/03/2021 16:54, Miklos Vajna wrote: * master branch rename (Cloph) + https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3442 + see mailing list thread at https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2021-March/087045.html Given that this is all being driven by a parochial American problem, and I suspect to a large extent much of the disquiet is the Rest of the World getting pissed off with American Cultural Imperialism (I'm not accusing them of *intentionally* doing it, I'm just saying that is what it is / is perceived as) can we look at the fact that LO is a European project, and base our actions on that. 1) It started out life as a German product. 2) It now has a French name. 3) I think it's based in England now? I'd like to see some Italian. Renaming "master" to "maestro" might not be enough of a change. We could always do "primadonna" which is understandable in most languages, but it is a bit long. For those who get the Rossini, my favourite would be "gatti" (or whatever the singular form is). There's plenty of precedent for this - kernel hackers know all about "make mrproper". And of course, gatti is appropriate for Open Source :-) The *perceived* big downside is, if we plough our own furrow, we're on our own if things go pear-shaped. Personally, I'd like to think the git guys would be keen to help a Poster Child doing its own thing, as an example that you *can* do your own thing and it all works. (And as a Brit, I really don't see why furriners should bend over backwards to accomodate our refusal to be decent international language neighbours ...) Chers, Wol ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
