Re: Bug? Lines disappear with rhythmic staff

[M Watts]

Peter Chubb wrote:

I'm using the current 2.12.2 version of lilypond.  The attached file
yields,
   programming error: vertical alignment called before line-breaking
and no lines on the staff.

If I remove the \bar |. the output is correct.

\version 2.12.2
recscore=  \context StaffGroup 
\context RhythmicStaff = tambour {
  \override NoteHead   #'style = #'cross
  \stemUp
	f4 f8 f8 
}

\context Staff = recA {
  \clef G^8
  a''2
  \bar |.
}



\score {
\recscore
 \layout {
\context{ \RhythmicStaff
  \remove Time_signature_engraver
  \remove Staff_symbol_engraver
  \remove Clef_engraver
% \remove Bar_engraver
  \consists Instrument_name_engraver
  \override BarLine #'transparent = ##t
}
\context{ \Staff
  \remove Time_signature_engraver
}

  }
}
  


For me, with 2.12.2 on Fedora 10, running your example yields tiny staff 
lines before the clef, but nothing after, and no StaffGroup bracket.


You seem to have removed the Staff_symbol_engraver from the RythmicStaff 
context -- I left the \bar |. in, and commented out the line


%  \remove Staff_symbol_engraver

, then all worked fine.


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Re: Bug? Lines disappear with rhythmic staff

[Peter Chubb]

 M == M Watts M writes:

M Peter Chubb wrote:
 I'm using the current 2.12.2 version of lilypond.  The attached
 file yields, programming error: vertical alignment called before
 line-breaking and no lines on the staff.
 
 If I remove the \bar |. the output is correct.


M For me, with 2.12.2 on Fedora 10, running your example yields tiny
M staff lines before the clef, but nothing after, and no StaffGroup
M bracket.

That's right.  I want no lines on the stave for the RhythmicStaff, but
I do want lines for the Staff context, and no StaffGroup bracket.

M You seem to have removed the Staff_symbol_engraver from the
M RythmicStaff context -- I left the \bar |. in, and commented out
M the line

M % \remove Staff_symbol_engraver

M , then all worked fine.

Why does removing Staff_symbol_engraver from RhythmicStaff affect what
happens to Staff???

And in any case it doesn't `work fine' -- you get a line on the
RhythmicStaff.  I want just the crossed notes.

To see an image of what *should* happen, see 

http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/ArbeauT/Orch/belle/belle-preview.png

I'm trying to update this piece to current LilyPond.  convert-ly on
its own is insufficient:
 -- can't use TeX escapes for accents and en and em dashes
 -- it mucks up the addlyrics, so I had to change to a \lyricsto with
a specific named Voice
 -- and the problem I'm having with removing the staff lines for the
RhythmicStaff context.  As I said, what I want to see is what you get
if you remove \bar |. in the minimal example --- as you can see in
the mutopia PNG.

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Re: Bug? Lines disappear with rhythmic staff

[Trevor Daniels]

Peter Chubb wrote Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:44 AM

That's right.  I want no lines on the stave for the RhythmicStaff, 
but

I do want lines for the Staff context, and no StaffGroup bracket.


Peter

Have you tried setting 'line-count of StaffSymbol to 0
rather than removing Staff_symbol_engraver?

Trevor



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Re: Using midi2ly

[Graham Percival]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 06:57:22AM +0100, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
 Which brings me to another question: why a version of midi2ly is 
 packaged with lilypond and still I have to use convert-ly ? Shouldn't 
 always midi2ly (and the other xxx2ly converters) be made compatible with 
 the lilypond version it is packaged with before releasing any official 
 new lilypond version release ? Or is that easier said than done ?

Ah, laddie, ya do nae understan' tha difficulties.  midi2ly has a
hard road to hoe, and make no mistake!  Doomed to remain a frog
forever until somebody gives it a kiss...

In slightly less fake Scottish accent that turns into flowery
(but normal) English in less than three sentences language, yes
this is simple.  It'd take about 30 minutes for me to fix it, and
perhaps 4 hours for somebody unfamiliar with the Contributor's
Guide and python.

*shrug*  But hey, nobody cares about midi2ly.  I'm certainly not
willing to spend 30 minutes fixing it.  If anybody wants to create
and send patches, I'll evaluate and apply them if they work.


Frankly, I think we should just remove every *2ly convert apart
from musicXML2ly.  Nobody wants to work on them, so they just get
gradually more and more broken over time.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: odd configure error

[Daniel Hulme]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:06:22PM +0800, Graham Percival wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 07:08:40PM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
  
  GIT from git.sv.gnu.org
  git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git
 
 This does not set up easy pulling or pushing in the future, and
 generally assumes that people know how to use git.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. It sets up a remote named 'origin'
and `git pull` works just fine after that. In the general case, `git
push` also works if the remote repository given allows pushing.

 It also downloads all branches, which in most cases is not necessary.
That's true, but hardly a huge problem. It's the difference between a
.git of 69MB and 110MB, which for many users is negligible; and as for
time of checkout, it's long enough either way that you'd go and make a
cup of tea while you were waiting. It's hardly enough to consider
switching VCSes for, in any case.

Anyway, a quick search of the shows that an option to git clone to only
track one branch was previously suggested and was thought to be a good
idea, so I'm sure they'd be happy to accept a patch to this end. I'm
willing to cook one up and act as liaison on the git mailing list if
we're agreed here that we need it.

-- 
Kanga  said to Roo,  Drink up  your milk  first, dear, and  talk after-
wards. So Roo, who was drinking his milk, tried to say that he could do
both at once... and had to be  patted on the back  and dried for quite a
long time afterwards. A. A. Milne, 'Winnie-the-Pooh'


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Re: odd configure error

[Graham Percival]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:21:49AM +, Daniel Hulme wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 09:06:22PM +0800, Graham Percival wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 07:08:40PM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
   
   GIT from git.sv.gnu.org
   git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git
  
  This does not set up easy pulling or pushing in the future, and
  generally assumes that people know how to use git.
 I'm not sure what you mean by that. It sets up a remote named 'origin'
 and `git pull` works just fine after that. In the general case, `git
 push` also works if the remote repository given allows pushing.

Huh.  Is this new in git 1.6 ?  The second-last time I set up git
(which admittedly was in the 1.4 days), I had some problem with
setting up pulling and pushing after doing a git clone.

Admittedly, the problem could have been as simple as not having
the correct location -- the URL for ssh is
  ssh://usern...@git.sv.gnu.org/srv/git/lilypond.git
When I set git up on my new laptop a few months ago, it took me
about an hour to realize that git push was failing because I had
the URL wrong.   (note  the  /src/git/  addition)


 Anyway, a quick search of the shows that an option to git clone to only
 track one branch was previously suggested and was thought to be a good
 idea, so I'm sure they'd be happy to accept a patch to this end. I'm
 willing to cook one up and act as liaison on the git mailing list if
 we're agreed here that we need it.

I definitely think that would be nice!  Many contributors (include
myself) get confused by the mixture of filesystem and database --
i.e. ~/src/lilypond/  might contain the main source, or the
website source, etc.  I'd rather have new contributors set up two
git repos (~/src/lilypond/  and ~/src/lilypond-web/ ) and then get
on with the business of writing patches for lilypond, not wading
through git docs and/or feeling confused and helpless with git.

In the near future, we'll split lilypond-web/ into a separate git
tracker anyway... but translators may still want two separate
directories.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Help with jEdit

[Father Gordon Gilbert]

Hi all,

I've recently obtained a Compaq laptop with Windoze XP Home on one
partition, and Ubuntu 8.10 on the other.  I've successfully configured jEdit
with the LilyPondTool plugin on the Windoze side, but I've just installed
jEdit 4.3pre13 (from the distro) on the Ubuntu side.  Now I've downloaded
the plugin list, but I don't see LilyPondTool.  Is there something I'm doing
wrong?  Or where else do I need to look?

Gordon+

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Penetanguishene, ON

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Re: Using midi2ly

[Laura Conrad]

 Graham == Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:

Graham Frankly, I think we should just remove every *2ly convert
Graham apart from musicXML2ly.  Nobody wants to work on them, so
Graham they just get gradually more and more broken over time.

I might support that if we were setting the example by having an
ly2musicXML, but we aren't.  Until then, I think we should keep
anything that's usable, even if the patches don't always arrive in
time so that people don't have to also run convert-ly.

I do occasionally use midi2ly, but I can't claim that it really saves
me much if any time, so I wouldn't be terribly upset if it
disappeared.  But abc2ly definitely saves time and trouble if you have
ABC, and it does sort of get maintained, although mostly on a this
works because so-and-so needed it basis.  So if that went away before
there was an abc2musicXML that was at least as goood as musicXML2ly, it
would be a loss.

There's a lot more ABC out there on the web than there is MusicXML.
And probably more MIDI than there is ABC.  And probably still more etf
than there is musicXML, even though Finale users, unlike a lot of
other transcribers, do have the musicXML option.

-- 
Laura   (mailto:lcon...@laymusic.org http://www.laymusic.org/ )
(617) 661-8097  233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139   

I suppose it can be said I'm an absent-minded driver.  It's true that
I've driven through a number of red lights on occasion, but on the
other hand I've stopped at a lot of green ones but never gotten credit
for it.

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Re: Bug? Lines disappear with rhythmic staff

[M Watts]

Trevor Daniels wrote:


Peter Chubb wrote Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:44 AM


That's right.  I want no lines on the stave for the RhythmicStaff, but
I do want lines for the Staff context, and no StaffGroup bracket.


The OP didn't say so -- one is not a mind reader ;)


Peter

Have you tried setting 'line-count of StaffSymbol to 0
rather than removing Staff_symbol_engraver?

Trevor



Indeed, adding \override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #0 to the 
RythmicStaff's layout block immediately has things looking better -- but 
that left a ridiculously tall bar line at the end of the main staff.


I tried taking the StaffGroup out altogether, as you don't need a 
StaffGroup bracket, which seems to work fine this time.


--
\version 2.12.2
recscore=  {
   \context RhythmicStaff = tambour {
 \override NoteHead   #'style = #'cross
 \stemUp
   f4 f8 f8  \bar |.
   }
 }

 lower = \context Staff = recA {
 \clef G8
 a''2
 \bar |.
   }
  
\score {

   
   \recscore
   \lower
   

\layout {
   \context{ \RhythmicStaff
 \remove Time_signature_engraver
%  \remove Staff_symbol_engraver
 \remove Clef_engraver
%  \remove Bar_engraver
 \consists Instrument_name_engraver
 \override BarLine #'transparent = ##t 
\override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #0

   }
   \context{ \Staff
 \remove Time_signature_engraver
   }
 }
}


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Re: lilypond-book setup for windows

[Hajo Dezelski]

Hello,

thanks for the input.

After some hours of working with latex and several editors on windows
and mac I decided to take the easy road: OpenOffice with the
OOoLilypond Macro. It works not always as I thought, but with time I
will find some workarounds.

Three reasons for the decision:

1. When I write a text I want to focus on the contents. I dont want to
see all these formating tags. It is for me also much harder to proof
read the text.

2. I am used to work with strongly structured contents.So I will
develop my stylesheet and stick to it. It will be similar to the
Lilypond-documentation.

3. Most importent: I have the possibility to export the notation and
the text to pdf, html and xml. So when there is a need, I can switch
back to LaTex.

By the way this is for me the easiest way to produce incipits for my wiki.

Thanks again

Hajo

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... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn



On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Carl D. Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:



 On 3/27/09 4:56 AM, Hajo Dezelski dl1...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I was afraid of that - back to square one -

 In the early 90s I had a quarrel with my former boss who wanted to
 force me to TeX and later LaTex and I, working on a Mac, was a vivid
 Wysiwyg advocator. I won.

 Now - I have yet not decided which output would be appropriate (pdf or
 html) so I will give it a try with Latex and WinEdt. Is there a
 stylesheet for the Lilypond Documentationproject which I can use as
 a starting point without the need to invent my own proper layout?

 @Carl: I am still switching between Mac and Windows (jEdit). What kind
 of system are you actually using on your Mac?

 I use Terminal and vim to do my LilyPond editing.  I have two terminal
 windows open:  one with vim, and one with the lilypond command.  I write the
 file from the vim window, switch to the command window, hit the up arrow key
 and the enter key, then switch to the Preview window to see how things came
 out.

 I use Preview to display my PDF files.

 I use TeXShop form my LaTeX work.

 I've not done any work with lilypond-book; it's on my to-do list for my
 hoped-for guitar songbook.

 As far as a starting point, try the two *.latex files found in
 Documentation/user.  That should get you started.

 HTH,

 Carl




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Re: Canorus -- help found

[M Watts]

M Watts addr...@hidden wrote:

/   /
/Try their website/

/https://canorus.berlios.de/wiki/index.php/Main_Page/

That's where I started, of course. I downloaded the program from
there, but I can't find anything like a user guide or tutorial. And
the User's guide choice on the Help menu is grayed out. AFAICT,
you're just supposed to know

With the latest 0.7 release, available via

wget http://download.berlios.de/canorus/canorus_0.7.R1002_source.tar.bz2

the help file gets built as part of the compile process, via a makefile 
which invokes lyx, in the doc/userguides directory (explained in the Readme)


You need to build the docs first b4 building the app, otherwise the help 
menu remains greyed out.



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Re: repeat percent and chords

[Kees Serier]

Neil Puttock schreef:
 2009/3/23 Kees Serier a.ser...@hccnet.nl:

   
 I changed the two e:m chords for the following: \repeat percent 2 {e:m}
 What happens is that in the second measure, instead of the percent sign,
 there is nothing (in the MIDI file no chord is played on that measure)
 

 There's no engraver in the ChordNames context to print the percent
 sign; simply add the Percent_repeat_engraver:

 \layout {
   \context {
 \ChordNames
 \consists Percent_repeat_engraver
   }
 }

 The percent sign will appear too low, but you can shift it manually
 using 'Y-offset.

 Regards,
 Neil
   
Neil,

Thanks for your reply,

I have placed the \layout { ... } at several places in the ly files, and
replaced the two e:m chords with one

\repeat percent 2 {e:m}
But nothing happens, I get no errors, and still 2 Em chords.
Any ideas?

Regards,

Kees



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Re: midi2ly on Mac OS X

[istlota]

As it turns out, midi2ly is bundled inside of the MAC OS lilypond.app file.
The trick is knowing how to access it.

Here is a link to instructions on how to access midi2ly on a MAC:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Setup-for-MacOS-X
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Setup-for-MacOS-X
 

1) Download the latest version of Python as described in the link.

2) Use Spotlight or Finder to figure out where lilypond.app is installed. On
my Mac, no surprise, it is in my Applications folder.

3) Open a Terminal window and CD to the Applications window. In my case, I
issued the following
command:

cd /applications

3) Confirm you can now access midi2ly by issuing the following command,
which should display the usage
screen for midi2ly:

open lilypond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/midi2ly



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Re: Using midi2ly

[Hans Aberg]

On 28 Mar 2009, at 10:45, Graham Percival wrote:


Frankly, I think we should just remove every *2ly convert apart
from musicXML2ly.  Nobody wants to work on them, so they just get
gradually more and more broken over time.


I think they should be there for the hope of somebody coming by in the  
future.


  Hans




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Re: Using midi2ly

[Hans Aberg]

On 28 Mar 2009, at 13:08, Laura Conrad wrote:


I might support that if we were setting the example by having an
ly2musicXML, but we aren't.


Normally one only provide converters to ones own source code format,  
so people get stuck with it: a form of competition limiting.


  Hans




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Re: Using midi2ly

[Anthony W. Youngman]

In message 191e48a7-f2c8-41cf-8b6e-b6ebec40d...@math.su.se, Hans Aberg 
hab...@math.su.se writes

On 28 Mar 2009, at 13:08, Laura Conrad wrote:


I might support that if we were setting the example by having an
ly2musicXML, but we aren't.


Normally one only provide converters to ones own source code format, so 
people get stuck with it: a form of competition limiting.



And who do we have to blame for that ...

Curiously, one of the major factors in WordPerfect's rise was the 
quality of its document converters - both in AND out. People bought a 
copy so they convert between other formats, and then because everybody 
had a copy everybody started using it as their main word processor 
instead of the competition.


Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [SOLVED] Re: (simulating) a spanner with multiple stops

[Neil Thornock]

Thanks Wilbert, this looks quite useful.  I could see it inconvenient
if one wants both a textspanner in this way AND a decresc.  But usable
anyway.

This puts me to wondering though: If dynamic spanners can be chained
like this, how hard would it be to get textspanners to behave the same
way?

Anybody have any idea?

Thanks!
Neil

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Wilbert Berendsen lily...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Op donderdag 26 maart 2009, schreef Wilbert Berendsen:
 I try to write something like:

 poco . . . . . a . . . . . . poco . . . . . . descresc.

 Solved, the trick is quite easy:

 \relative c' {
  \set decrescendoSpanner = #'text
  \set decrescendoText = poco
  c\ c c c
  \set decrescendoText = a
  c\ c c c
  \set decrescendoText = poco
  c\ c c c
  \set decrescendoText = decresc.
  c\ c\! c c
 }

 Cc-ing Neil as this is usable maybe.

 best regards,
 Wilbert Berendsen

 --
 Frescobaldi, LilyPond editor for KDE: http://www.frescobaldi.org/




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Composition/Theory
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cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods'

[Anthony W. Youngman]

Not sure if this belongs here or on -devel ...

But I've just looked in the log file and found this in there. V 2.12.2 
on Windows (same on V 2.11.59 - I've just upgraded to make sure it isn't 
a known/fixed thingy).


Bearing in mind I don't know what no-spacing-rods is, it's an error 
internal to lily (which may or may not be something I've done :-)


Relevant log contents follow:

Interpreting music...
warning: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods' 
(backend-type?).  perhaps a typing error?

warning: doing assignment anyway
[8]
warning: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods' 
(backend-type?).  perhaps a typing error?

warning: doing assignment anyway
warning: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods' 
(backend-type?).  perhaps a typing error?

warning: doing assignment anyway
[16]
warning: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods' 
(backend-type?).  perhaps a typing error?

warning: doing assignment anyway
[24][32][40][48][56][64][72][80][88][96][104][112][120][128][136][144][15
2][152]


Cheers,
Wol
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Re: Looking for proper beam grouping

[Anthony W. Youngman]

In message 73a00026c6f3454c9cf5c090b12d0...@trevorlaptop, Trevor
Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes

Carl, you wrote Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:43 AM

 On 2/23/09 12:52 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 I have a piece of music in 3/4 which has bars like { d4. c8 b8.  a16 }
 Lilypond groups the last three notes together, making it look  like a
6/8
 measure, but I want the c8 to be separate and only the b8. a16 to  be
grouped
 (like a proper 3/4 would look like).

 I've tried some settings, like #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end  * * * *)
1
 4)
 or \set beatGrouping = #'(4 4 4) but to no avail.

 The proper way to set beatGrouping is #'(1 1 1), which means group  1
beat, 1
 beat 1 beat, where a beat is defined by the time signature as a  1/4
note.

 But this doesn't work properly, and it should.

 I think this is a bug in the autobeaming code.  Could you please  send
a bug
 report to bug-lilypond?

This is not a bug.  There is still a general auto-beam
setting for 3/4 time which inhibits beatGrouping.

beatBrouping should work with the override

#(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 3 4) 3 4)


I was waiting for 2.13 before I completed this work, as
changing the default beaming did not seem right during
a stable release.

Just tried to do this (2.12.2) and I'm getting 6/8 beaming in a 3/4
passage :-( Am I doing anything stupid?

voiceTimeSig = {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\key f \major
\time 3/4
#(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 3 4) 3 4)
\set beatGrouping = #'(1 1 1)
s2.*8  % mark 1
s2.*6  % mark 2
\time 2/4 s2 \time 4/4 s1


Cheers,
Wol
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Re: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods'

[Neil Puttock]

2009/3/28 Anthony W. Youngman lilyp...@thewolery.demon.co.uk:
 Not sure if this belongs here or on -devel ...

 But I've just looked in the log file and found this in there. V 2.12.2 on
 Windows (same on V 2.11.59 - I've just upgraded to make sure it isn't a
 known/fixed thingy).

 Bearing in mind I don't know what no-spacing-rods is, it's an error
 internal to lily (which may or may not be something I've done :-)

It's an obsolete property which was removed a while ago;  there should
be a convert-ly rule for it.

Try replacing it (assuming it's set to #t) with the following:

#'extra-spacing-width = #'(+inf.0 . -inf.0)

Regards,
Neil


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Re: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods'

[Anthony W. Youngman]

In message 9nk9hhd$hkzjf...@thewolery.demon.co.uk, Anthony W. Youngman
lilyp...@thewolery.demon.co.uk writes
Not sure if this belongs here or on -devel ...

Oops - just found my code that's doing it - but I copied it from
somewhere and don't understand what it's doing or why ...

tempoMark = #(define-music-function (parser location markp) (string?)
#{
\once \override Score . RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #left
\once \override Score . RehearsalMark #'no-spacing-rods = ##t
\mark \markup { \small \bold $markp }
#})

And the error makes it look like it might be a bug in lily anyway, but I
don't want to say that because I've been wrong too often - is the code
looking for something called type-check that should be there and
isn't?

But I've just looked in the log file and found this in there. V 2.12.2 on
Windows (same on V 2.11.59 - I've just upgraded to make sure it isn't a
known/fixed thingy).

Bearing in mind I don't know what no-spacing-rods is, it's an error
internal to lily (which may or may not be something I've done :-)

Relevant log contents follow:

Interpreting music...
warning: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods' (backend-
type?).  perhaps a typing error?
warning: doing assignment anyway
[8]
warning: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods' (backend-
type?).  perhaps a typing error?
warning: doing assignment anyway
warning: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods' (backend-
type?).  perhaps a typing error?
warning: doing assignment anyway
[16]
warning: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods' (backend-
type?).  perhaps a typing error?
warning: doing assignment anyway
[24][32][40][48][56][64][72][80][88][96][104][112][120][128][136][144][15
2][152]


Cheers,
Wol

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Re: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods'

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Anthony,


Oops - just found my code that's doing it - but I copied it from
somewhere and don't understand what it's doing or why ...

tempoMark = #(define-music-function (parser location markp) (string?)
#{
\once \override Score . RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X =  
#left

\once \override Score . RehearsalMark #'no-spacing-rods = ##t
\mark \markup { \small \bold $markp }
#})


That looks like my old (pre-recent-MetronomeMark improvements)  
function/macro for making tempo indications...


And the error makes it look like it might be a bug in lily anyway,  
but I

don't want to say that because I've been wrong too often - is the code
looking for something called type-check that should be there and  
isn't?


No... it's just indicating that this old code needs updating.
Actually, it should be replaced entirely by a MetronomeMark-based  
function -- I've got a couple that I will be submitting to LSR soon.


Hope this helps,
Kieren.


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Re: midi2ly on Mac OS X

[James E. Bailey]

Am 27.03.2009 um 00:04 schrieb istlota:



As it turns out, midi2ly is bundled inside of the MAC OS  
lilypond.app file.

The trick is knowing how to access it.

Here is a link to instructions on how to access midi2ly on a MAC:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/ 
Setup-for-MacOS-X
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/ 
Setup-for-MacOS-X


1) Download the latest version of Python as described in the link.

2) Use Spotlight or Finder to figure out where lilypond.app is  
installed. On

my Mac, no surprise, it is in my Applications folder.

3) Open a Terminal window and CD to the Applications window. In my  
case, I

issued the following
command:

cd /applications

That's odd, usually that would be: cd /Applications


3) Confirm you can now access midi2ly by issuing the following  
command,

which should display the usage
screen for midi2ly:

open lilypond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/midi2ly
Again, that's odd. Usually this would be: open LilyPond.app/Contents/ 
Resources/bin/midi2ly… Except midi2ly isn't a program you open, like  
convert-ly, it's a script that's run on a file.


Additionally, since midi2ly, like convert-ly, lilypond-book, and  
lilysong are python scripts, at least on OSX 10.4, in addition to  
installing a newer version of python, the first line of those files  
needs to be changed to: #!/usr/bin/env python



James E. Bailey



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Re: repeat percent and chords

[Neil Puttock]

2009/3/26 Kees Serier a.ser...@hccnet.nl:

 I have placed the \layout { ... } at several places in the ly files, and
 replaced the two e:m chords with one

 \repeat percent 2 {e:m}
 But nothing happens, I get no errors, and still 2 Em chords.
 Any ideas?

It won't work unless each chord is the duration of a full bar, since
\percent repeat uses this to distinguish between slashes and percent
symbols.  It's probably rather an unsatisfactory solution anyway,
since it depends on barlines being present (either added to the
ChordNames context if it's on its own, or getting them from staves
above/below).

For technical reasons, you can't simply override the ChordName stencil
using the percent repeat print-function
(ly:multi-measure-rest::percent), but it's possible to duplicate its
code in Scheme:

percentStencil =
#(lambda (grob)
   (define (sqr x)
 (* x x))
   (let* ((font (ly:grob-default-font grob))
  (dot (ly:font-get-glyph font dots.dot))
  (thick (ly:grob-property grob 'thickness))
  (slope (ly:grob-property grob 'slope))
  (dot-kern (- (ly:grob-property grob 'dot-negative-kern 0.75)))
  (width (/ 2 slope))
  (x-ext (cons
  0
  (+ width (sqrt (+ (sqr (/ thick slope)) (* thick thick))
  (y-ext (cons 0 (* width slope)))
  (slash (ly:make-stencil
  (list 'repeat-slash width slope thick)
  x-ext y-ext))
  (stil (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
 (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
  slash
  X
  LEFT
  (ly:stencil-translate-axis dot 1.5 Y)
  dot-kern)
 X
 RIGHT
 (ly:stencil-translate-axis dot 0.5 Y)
 dot-kern)))
 stil))

\score {
  
\chords {
  c2 \once \override ChordName #'stencil = \percentStencil c
  \repeat percent 4 { e4:m }
  \repeat percent 2 { e1 }
}
\new Staff \relative c' {
  c2 c
  e1 | e | e
}
  
  \layout {
\context {
  \ChordNames
  \consists Percent_repeat_engraver
  \consists Slash_repeat_engraver
  \override RepeatSlash #'stencil = \percentStencil
  \override RepeatSlash #'slope = #1
}
  }
}

Regards,
Neil


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Re: Looking for proper beam grouping

[Trevor Daniels]

Anthony W. Youngman Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:50 PM

In message 73a00026c6f3454c9cf5c090b12d0...@trevorlaptop, Trevor
Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes


Carl, you wrote Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:43 AM


On 2/23/09 12:52 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:

I have a piece of music in 3/4 which has bars like { d4. c8 b8. 
a16 }
Lilypond groups the last three notes together, making it look 
like a

6/8
measure, but I want the c8 to be separate and only the b8. a16 
to  be

grouped
(like a proper 3/4 would look like).

I've tried some settings, like #(override-auto-beam-setting 
'(end  * * * *)

1
4)
or \set beatGrouping = #'(4 4 4) but to no avail.


The proper way to set beatGrouping is #'(1 1 1), which means 
group  1

beat, 1
beat 1 beat, where a beat is defined by the time signature as a 
1/4

note.

But this doesn't work properly, and it should.

I think this is a bug in the autobeaming code.  Could you please 
send

a bug
report to bug-lilypond?


This is not a bug.  There is still a general auto-beam
setting for 3/4 time which inhibits beatGrouping.

beatBrouping should work with the override

#(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 3 4) 3 4)


I was waiting for 2.13 before I completed this work, as
changing the default beaming did not seem right during
a stable release.

Just tried to do this (2.12.2) and I'm getting 6/8 beaming in a 
3/4

passage :-( Am I doing anything stupid?

voiceTimeSig = {
   \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
   \key f \major
   \time 3/4
#(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 3 4) 3 4)
\set beatGrouping = #'(1 1 1)
   s2.*8  % mark 1
   s2.*6  % mark 2
   \time 2/4 s2 \time 4/4 s1



Not really stupid, as the same error catches everyone
quite often.  It's that Context thing again.  From the
way you are doing it I guess you are not placing the
revert command in every Voice.  But in this form it
applies only to the Voice context in which it appears.
To make the revert apply to every voice in a Staff you
need to add 'Staff, and to make it apply to every
Voice in every Staff you need to add 'Score, like this:

#(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 3 4) 3 4 'Score)

Also the \set beatGrouping is unnecessary - that is the
default grouping in 3/4 time.

You'll be pleased to know the revert will not be required
at all in 2.13.1 to obtain this beaming.

HTH

Trevor




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Re: midi2ly on Mac OS X

[Hans Aberg]

On 28 Mar 2009, at 18:00, James E. Bailey wrote:

Additionally, since midi2ly, like convert-ly, lilypond-book, and  
lilysong are python scripts, at least on OSX 10.4, in addition to  
installing a newer version of python, the first line of those files  
needs to be changed to: #!/usr/bin/env python


On Mac OS X 10.5, there is a fairly up-to-date /usr/bin/python.

I call this and other programs with scripts containing:
 exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/midi2ly $@

Possibly (I haven't checked it), one might change that on 10.4 to:
 alias python='env python'
 exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/midi2ly $@
and take down the python in Fink or MacPorts.

One simple way to create them is, in Terminal, to go to the directory  
where you want to have the script (I put it in ~/local/bin/ as do not  
want to clutter ~) and type

  cat  midi2ly
  exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/midi2ly $@
  ^D
where the last is ctrlD. Then set it as executable by
  chmod +x midi.ly

Edit the script your using
  open -a 'My Text Editor' midi2ly

One needs to set the environmental variables, which can be done  
in .profile, or using the RCEnvironment from http://www.rubicode.com/Software/ 
.


My .profile file uses the text below, which enables using programs in / 
usr/local, MacPorts, Fink, and user, plus MacTex.


It might be useful to have a .bashrc file as well, as X11 doesn't  
read .profile (it doesn't make a bash login shell, see 'man bash'),  
which might contain:

  source ~/.profile
That is, it just reads .profile.

When all this is done, you have a midi2ly which works as as any other  
UNIX program.


  Hans Aberg



# Add to end of searchpath:
append_path()
{
  if ! eval test -z \\${$1##*:$2:*}\ -o -z \\${$1%%*:$2}\ -o - 
z \\${$1##$2:*}\ -o -z \\${$1##$2}\ ; then

eval $1=\$$1:$2
  fi
}

# Add to beginning of searchpath:
prepend_path()
{
  if ! eval test -z \\${$1##*:$2:*}\ -o -z \\${$1%%*:$2}\ -o - 
z \\${$1##$2:*}\ -o -z \\${$1##$2}\ ; then

eval $1=$2:\$$1
  fi
}

# Set system searchpaths:

# In the case a directory may exist (depending on the program) both  
with and without
# parent directory 'share/' (like in the cae of MANPATH and INFOPATH),  
the 'share/'
# version is put first, as it is what is used in /usr on Mac OS X  
FreeSD UNIX.
# The idea is that if a program is somehow adapted to this platform,  
the the stuff will
# be moved to the 'share/' variation, and should thus be ovverride the  
unadapted versions.


PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin
MANPATH=/usr/share/man:/usr/X11R6/man
INFOPATH=/usr/share/info
LIBPATH=/usr/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib

# Prepend Fink searchpaths:
test -r /sw/bin/init.sh  . /sw/bin/init.sh

# Prepend MacPorts (former DarwinPorts) searchpaths:
prepend_path PATH /opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin
prepend_path MANPATH /opt/local/share/man:/opt/local/man
prepend_path INFOPATH /opt/local/share/info:/opt/local/info
prepend_path LIBPATH /opt/local/lib

# Prepend MacTeX paths
prepend_path PATH /usr/texbin
prepend_path MANPATH /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/doc/man
prepend_path INFOPATH /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/doc/info

# Prepend /usr/local/ searchpaths:
prepend_path PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/X11R6/bin
prepend_path MANPATH /usr/local/share/man:/usr/local/man
prepend_path INFOPATH /usr/local/share/info:/usr/local/info
prepend_path LIBPATH /usr/local/lib

# Prepend $HOME searchpaths:
prepend_path PATH $HOME/local/bin
prepend_path MANPATH $HOME/local/share/man:$HOME/local/man
prepend_path INFOPATH $HOME/local/share/info:$HOME/local/info
prepend_path LIBPATH $HOME/local/lib


# Export changed paths:
export PATH
export MANPATH
export INFOPATH
export LIBPATH




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Re: midi2ly on Mac OS X

[James E. Bailey]

Am 28.03.2009 um 18:50 schrieb Hans Aberg:


On 28 Mar 2009, at 18:00, James E. Bailey wrote:

Additionally, since midi2ly, like convert-ly, lilypond-book, and  
lilysong are python scripts, at least on OSX 10.4, in addition to  
installing a newer version of python, the first line of those  
files needs to be changed to: #!/usr/bin/env python


When all this is done, you have a midi2ly which works as as any  
other UNIX program.


  Hans Aberg
Exactly, the user on 10.5, however is already accustomed to the fact  
that lilypond is a UNIX program. This is not true for the 10.4 user,  
where the lilypond editor still works, and has an update syntax  
option that does not work.


James E. Bailey



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Re: repeat percent and chords

[Robin Bannister]

Neil Puttock wrote:

it's possible to duplicate its code in Scheme:


Or its appearance in markup   ;-)

simile = \markup {
 \combine \translate #'(0.3 . 1.5) \draw-circle #0.2 #0 ##t 
 \combine \translate #'(1.7 . 0.5) \draw-circle #0.2 #0 ##t 
 \rotate #90 \translate#'(0 . 2) \beam #2 #-1 #0.5 }


Cheers,
Robin


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Re: midi2ly on Mac OS X

[Hans Aberg]

On 28 Mar 2009, at 19:59, James E. Bailey wrote:

Additionally, since midi2ly, like convert-ly, lilypond-book, and  
lilysong are python scripts, at least on OSX 10.4, in addition to  
installing a newer version of python, the first line of those  
files needs to be changed to: #!/usr/bin/env python


When all this is done, you have a midi2ly which works as as any  
other UNIX program.


Exactly, the user on 10.5, however is already accustomed to the fact  
that lilypond is a UNIX program. This is not true for the 10.4 user,  
where the lilypond editor still works, and has an update syntax  
option that does not work.


I haven't used that editor for a long time - I used the same setup on  
10.4. Once one have done the UNIX setup chores, it is very convenient  
to run from Terminal.


  Hans




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Re: midi2ly on Mac OS X

[James E. Bailey]

Am 28.03.2009 um 20:14 schrieb Hans Aberg:


On 28 Mar 2009, at 19:59, James E. Bailey wrote:

Additionally, since midi2ly, like convert-ly, lilypond-book, and  
lilysong are python scripts, at least on OSX 10.4, in addition  
to installing a newer version of python, the first line of those  
files needs to be changed to: #!/usr/bin/env python


When all this is done, you have a midi2ly which works as as any  
other UNIX program.


Exactly, the user on 10.5, however is already accustomed to the  
fact that lilypond is a UNIX program. This is not true for the  
10.4 user, where the lilypond editor still works, and has an  
update syntax option that does not work.


I haven't used that editor for a long time - I used the same setup  
on 10.4. Once one have done the UNIX setup chores, it is very  
convenient to run from Terminal.


  Hans





Very true, but a user new to lilypond and using OSX 10.4 won't know  
anything about UNIX setup chores. And it's a very steep learning curve.

James E. Bailey



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Re: midi2ly on Mac OS X

[Hans Aberg]

On 28 Mar 2009, at 20:27, James E. Bailey wrote:

I haven't used that editor for a long time - I used the same setup  
on 10.4. Once one have done the UNIX setup chores, it is very  
convenient to run from Terminal.



Very true, but a user new to lilypond and using OSX 10.4 won't know  
anything about UNIX setup chores. And it's a very steep learning  
curve.


The hard parts are really in figuring out what I posted.

  Hans




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Re: Help with jEdit

[Jonathan Kulp]

Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

I've recently obtained a Compaq laptop with Windoze XP Home on one 
partition, and Ubuntu 8.10 on the other.  I've successfully configured 
jEdit with the LilyPondTool plugin on the Windoze side, but I've just 
installed jEdit 4.3pre13 (from the distro) on the Ubuntu side.  Now I've 
downloaded the plugin list, but I don't see LilyPondTool.  Is there 
something I'm doing wrong?  Or where else do I need to look?




I had the same problem.  Couldn't find the plugin on the Ubuntu side. 
It's not a big deal to me since I don't use JEdit but I was trying to 
show it to one of my students.  It worked on Windows so I just showed 
her on that side.


Jon
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Re: Looking for proper beam grouping

[Anthony W. Youngman]

In message 3cbf99092d5f4e77a0cae01edf7be...@trevorlaptop, Trevor 
Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes


Anthony W. Youngman Saturday, March 28, 2009 3:50 PM

In message 73a00026c6f3454c9cf5c090b12d0...@trevorlaptop, Trevor
Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes




Just tried to do this (2.12.2) and I'm getting 6/8 beaming in a  3/4
passage :-( Am I doing anything stupid?

voiceTimeSig = {
   \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
   \key f \major
   \time 3/4
#(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 3 4) 3 4)
\set beatGrouping = #'(1 1 1)
   s2.*8  % mark 1
   s2.*6  % mark 2
   \time 2/4 s2 \time 4/4 s1



Not really stupid, as the same error catches everyone
quite often.  It's that Context thing again.  From the
way you are doing it I guess you are not placing the
revert command in every Voice.  But in this form it
applies only to the Voice context in which it appears.
To make the revert apply to every voice in a Staff you
need to add 'Staff, and to make it apply to every
Voice in every Staff you need to add 'Score, like this:

#(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 3 4) 3 4 'Score)


Thanks.


Also the \set beatGrouping is unnecessary - that is the
default grouping in 3/4 time.

You'll be pleased to know the revert will not be required
at all in 2.13.1 to obtain this beaming.

It works fine now. But (as others have mentioned) why not in 2.12.3? 
imho it's a bug, and as such ought to be fixed.


Cheers,
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invisible slurs in tablature

[Grammostola Rosea]

Hi,

I want to get invisible slurs in tablature... how?
This is my score:



\header {
 title = BLUE BOSSA
 composer = K. Dorham
}

global = {
 \key c \minor
 \time 4/4
 \partial 4
   \override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t %% Makes stems transparent
\override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t %% Makes beams transparent
\override TabStaff.Dots #'transparent = ##t
\set TabStaff.minimumFret = #3

}

chordNames = \chordmode {
 \global
 % Akkoordnamen volgen.

}

jazzGuitar = \relative c' {
 \global
 % Muziek volgt hier.
 g4\4 | g'4.\1 f8\2 es d4 c8\3(  c2.\3)  bes4 as2) g'4.\1 f8\2( f1\2)
 g4.\1 es8\2 d\2 c4\3 bes8\3( bes2.\3) as4\4 g2\4 f'4.\2 es8( es1\2) 
es4.\2 des8\3 c8\3 bes4 as8\4( as2.\4)
 ges4\4 ges4\4 f8 bes( bes) f\4 as4\4( as1\4) as4\4 g8\4 bes8( bes4.) 
as8  as4 g8 bes8( bes4.) as8 g1( g2.) g4

}

chordsPart = \new ChordNames \chordNames

jazzGuitarPart = \new StaffGroup \with {
 %\consists Instrument_name_engraver
 %instrumentName = Jazzgitaar
} 
 \new Staff \with {
   midiInstrument = electric guitar (jazz)
 } { \clef treble_8 \jazzGuitar }
 \new TabStaff \with {
   stringTunings = #guitar-tuning
 } \jazzGuitar


\score {
 
   \chordsPart
   \jazzGuitarPart
 
 \layout { }
 \midi {
   \context {
 \Score
 tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 100 4)
   }
 }
}



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Re: cannot find property type-check for `no-spacing-rods'

[Anthony W. Youngman]

In message blu0-smtp263ca4a0baec066965c6ca94...@phx.gbl, Kieren 
MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes
That looks like my old (pre-recent-MetronomeMark improvements) 
function/macro for making tempo indications...


And the error makes it look like it might be a bug in lily anyway, 
but I

don't want to say that because I've been wrong too often - is the code
looking for something called type-check that should be there and 
isn't?


No... it's just indicating that this old code needs updating.
Actually, it should be replaced entirely by a MetronomeMark-based 
function -- I've got a couple that I will be submitting to LSR soon.


Actually, it's fairly new code :-)

How metronome are your metronome functions? I'm just using it for text 
like moderately fast.


Cheers,
Wol
--
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Re: Help with jEdit

[Father Gordon Gilbert]

Bertalan said I should install 4.3pre16, so I tried that, but I couldn't see
a version for Ubuntu, so I picked the Java version, and although it said it
installed it, I couldn't find any change in the version when I fired it up.
Still 4.3pre13.  Anybody any ideas how to install the latest on Ubuntu?

Gordon+


On 28/03/2009, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote:

 Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've recently obtained a Compaq laptop with Windoze XP Home on one
 partition, and Ubuntu 8.10 on the other.  I've successfully configured jEdit
 with the LilyPondTool plugin on the Windoze side, but I've just installed
 jEdit 4.3pre13 (from the distro) on the Ubuntu side.  Now I've downloaded
 the plugin list, but I don't see LilyPondTool.  Is there something I'm doing
 wrong?  Or where else do I need to look?


 I had the same problem.  Couldn't find the plugin on the Ubuntu side. It's
 not a big deal to me since I don't use JEdit but I was trying to show it to
 one of my students.  It worked on Windows so I just showed her on that side.

 Jon
 --
 Jonathan Kulp
 http://www.jonathankulp.com




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Penetanguishene, ON
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Re: midi2ly on Mac OS X

[Tim McNamara]

On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:00 PM, James E. Bailey wrote:


Am 27.03.2009 um 00:04 schrieb istlota:



As it turns out, midi2ly is bundled inside of the MAC OS  
lilypond.app file.

The trick is knowing how to access it.

Here is a link to instructions on how to access midi2ly on a MAC:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/ 
Setup-for-MacOS-X
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/ 
Setup-for-MacOS-X


1) Download the latest version of Python as described in the link.

2) Use Spotlight or Finder to figure out where lilypond.app is  
installed. On

my Mac, no surprise, it is in my Applications folder.

3) Open a Terminal window and CD to the Applications window. In my  
case, I

issued the following
command:

cd /applications

That's odd, usually that would be: cd /Applications


OS X's HFS+ filesystem  is capitalization-challenged.  cd / 
applications works as does cd /Applications.



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RE: Help with jEdit

[Nick Payne]

If you install the beta of Ubuntu 9.04 it has jEdit 4.3pre16 in the
distribution. You can upgrade to 9.04 (assuming you have a treasonably fast
internet connection) by opening a terminal window and entering sudo
update-manager -d (without the quotes).

 

Nick

 

From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On Behalf
Of Father Gordon Gilbert
Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2009 08:15
To: Jonathan Kulp
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Help with jEdit

 

Bertalan said I should install 4.3pre16, so I tried that, but I couldn't see
a version for Ubuntu, so I picked the Java version, and although it said it
installed it, I couldn't find any change in the version when I fired it up.
Still 4.3pre13.  Anybody any ideas how to install the latest on Ubuntu?



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Re: Help with jEdit

[Jonathan Kulp]

Father Gordon Gilbert wrote:
Bertalan said I should install 4.3pre16, so I tried that, but I couldn't 
see a version for Ubuntu, so I picked the Java version, and although it 
said it installed it, I couldn't find any change in the version when I 
fired it up.  Still 4.3pre13.  Anybody any ideas how to install the 
latest on Ubuntu?


Gordon+  



Ok I just got the 4.3pre16 version and LilypondTool is there, just as 
Bertalan said.  It's  installed and working properly.  I did have to go 
into the plugin options, choose Lilypond Tool, and set the correct path 
to Lilypond.  It was trying to find Lilypond as if it were a Windows 
machine.


Did you remove the old Jedit with your package manager before installing 
the new version?  If not, that's probably why it still opens the pre13 
version.  BTW the Debian package is what you want for installing on 
Ubuntu.


--
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http://www.jonathankulp.com


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Strange Change Staff behavior

[Alberto Simões]

Hello.

I am having a strange behavior with Change Staff. It is not easy to
explain as it is quite strange. Basically, I am having a voice defined
to be drawn on the lower staff, and it is appearing in the upper staff.

As it is not easy to explain, I am sending the lilypond file in attach.
What is happening: lowerB voice is being drawn in the upper staff.

Thanks for any help
Alberto
-- 
Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho
 Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal
\version 2.12.2

\header {
  title = Cristo Ressuscitou
  composer = J. dos Santos
  poet = P. Minhava
  tagline = Transcrita por Alberto Simões

  ocasioes = entrada
  seccao   = entrada
}


global = {
  \key ees \major
  \time 2/4
}

melody = \relative c' {
  \clef treble
  \global
  \autoBeamOff
  r4\f ees8^\markup{Coro} g \bar |:
  bes bes g bes
  ees4( c)
  bes2
  c4 f,(
  \break

  f8) g aes f
  bes4 ees8 c
  aes aes c aes
  f2
  ees2 ~ 
  ees8 \fermata d^\p d d

  g4 f8 f
  g g d d
  g g a a
  g2 ~
  g8 a bes c
  d4 ees8 c

  d8 g, a bes
  c d ees c
  d4 bes8 bes
  g g f f
  g2 ~
  g8 r ees g \bar :|
}

text = \lyricmode {
  A- le- lu- ia! A- le- lu- ia!
  Cris- to res- sus- ci- tou.
  A- le- lu- ia! A- le- lu- ia!

  Não pro- cu- reis en- tre_as som- bras a pes- so- a de Je- sus.
  Res- sus- ci- tou: e- ra_a Vi- da.
  Bri- lhe_en- tre vós: é a Luz.
  Bri- lhe_en- tre vós: é a Luz.
  A- le- 
}

upperA = \relative c' {
  r4 ees8[( g]\bar |: g bes4) g8[( bes]
  bes ees4) c8[( ees] 
  c g'4) ees8[( g]
  c[ bes aes g]
  f[ ees d c]
  bes4 ees8[( c]
  aes4) c8([ aes]
  f2
  ees2 ~
  ees8) \fermata

  d8([ d d] 
  g4 f
  g d
  g a
  g2 ~
  g8) a[( bes c]
  f, a d4) ees g c(
  f a d) ees g c(
  f a d) ees g c(
  f a d) ges bes ees(
  g bes e) aes d f(
  g d' g2) ~
  g d' g8 r ees[ g] \bar :|
}

upperB = \relative c {
  \change Staff = lower ees4(--  
  \change Staff = upper ees'4)
  d f4 g
  c, g c'
  g bes ees'
  f, c' d-- r4

  bes, f' g-- r4
  ees f-- r
  c ees-- r
  d2
  bes ~
  bes8 r c4(

  bes) c(
  b) c(
  bes) c(
  b) c(
  bes8) r8 r4 s2

  s2 s2 s2 s2 s2 s4 ees
}

upper = {
  \global
  \clef treble
   \upperA \\ \upperB 
}

lowerA = \relative c' {
  s2 \bar |: s2 s2 s2 s2
  s2 s2 s2 bes4 c8[( aes] g2) ~ g8 r r4
  r8 d8[ d d] g4 f8[ f] g[ g] d[ d] g[ g] a[ a] g r8 r4 
}

lowerB = \relative c' {
  s2 \bar |: s2 s2 s2 s2  
  s2 bes2 ~ bes ~ bes4 bes,( ees) bes8[( g] ees)_\fermata s8 s4
  g2 ~ g2 ~ g2 ~ g2 ~ g8 s8 s4 c'2 ~
  c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c8 r8 s4
}

lower = {
  \global
  \clef bass
   \lowerA \\ \lowerB 
}


\score {
  
\new Voice = mel { \autoBeamOff \melody }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mel \text
\new PianoStaff 
  \new Staff = upper \upper
  \new Staff = lower \lower

  
  \layout {
\context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
  }
  \midi {
\context {
  \Score
  tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 63 4)
}
  }
}


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Re: midi2ly on Mac OS X

[Hans Aberg]

On 28 Mar 2009, at 22:32, Tim McNamara wrote:


   cd /applications

That's odd, usually that would be: cd /Applications


OS X's HFS+ filesystem  is capitalization-challenged.  cd / 
applications works as does cd /Applications.


This is the case on Mac OS X 10.4, but I'm not sure under 10.5 - I run  
the case-sensitive (journaled), so I can't check - it would be fun to  
know. Case-insensitivity in the underlying Unix causes problems.


  Hans




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Re: repeat percent and chords

[Neil Puttock]

2009/3/28 Robin Bannister r...@dataway.ch:
 Neil Puttock wrote:

 it's possible to duplicate its code in Scheme:

 Or its appearance in markup   ;-)

 simile = \markup {
  \combine \translate #'(0.3 . 1.5) \draw-circle #0.2 #0 ##t  \combine
 \translate #'(1.7 . 0.5) \draw-circle #0.2 #0 ##t  \rotate #90
 \translate#'(0 . 2) \beam #2 #-1 #0.5 }

Heheh, that's much simpler, though it's not exactly the same as the
real thing partly due to \beam using round-filled-box. :)

Regards,
Neil


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Re: invisible slurs in tablature

[Neil Puttock]

2009/3/28 Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 I want to get invisible slurs in tablature... how?

Simply \override Slur #'transparent in the same way as you've done for
the other objects in your TabStaff context.

Why aren't you using ties though
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Writing-rhythms#Ties)?

Regards,
Neil


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Re: invisible slurs in tablature

[Grammostola Rosea]

Neil Puttock wrote:

2009/3/28 Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
  

Hi,

I want to get invisible slurs in tablature... how?



Simply \override Slur #'transparent in the same way as you've done for
the other objects in your TabStaff context.

Why aren't you using ties though
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Writing-rhythms#Ties)?

  

You're right, thanks!

Btw it's time to make tablature with invisible Ties, Slurs, Dots, Stems 
etc. default imo.


\r


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Re: Strange Change Staff behavior

[Neil Puttock]

2009/3/28 Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt:
 Hello.

 I am having a strange behavior with Change Staff. It is not easy to
 explain as it is quite strange. Basically, I am having a voice defined
 to be drawn on the lower staff, and it is appearing in the upper staff.

[copying to bug-lilypond]

I think you've uncovered a bug related to \change Staff here; if you
remove the \change Staff = lower, the file compiles fine.  Until
it's fixed you'll have to place the cross-staff notes in one of the
lower voices.

Here's a snippet which may be a manifestation of the same bug, but
with slightly different results (taken from the regtest
spacing-knee-compressed.ly):


  \new Staff =rh {
s2
  }
  \new Staff =lh {
\repeat unfold 2 {
  \change Staff = rh
  a'8
  \change Staff = lh
  a'8
}
  }


The first note appears in the wrong stave, and the following error
messages appear,

warning: Change_iterator::process (): Staff = `lh':
warning: cannot change `Staff' to `rh': not changing to same context type: Staff

  \change Staff = rh

which suggests that the iterator has missed the first \change for some reason.

Regards,
Neil


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Re: Strange Change Staff behavior

[Neil Puttock]

2009/3/28 Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com:

 I think you've uncovered a bug related to \change Staff here; if you
 remove the \change Staff = lower, the file compiles fine.  Until
 it's fixed you'll have to place the cross-staff notes in one of the
 lower voices.

 Here's a snippet which may be a manifestation of the same bug, but
 with slightly different results (taken from the regtest
 spacing-knee-compressed.ly):

Having looked at the source code, they're definitely the same bug.

You can scrub the advice I gave above if you explicitly instantiate
your voices, since this tricks the iterator into thinking it's already
changed contexts when the first \change Staff comes along (it compares
it to Voice rather than Staff).

\version 2.12.2

\header {
 title = Cristo Ressuscitou
 composer = J. dos Santos
 poet = P. Minhava
 tagline = Transcrita por Alberto Simões

 ocasioes = entrada
 seccao   = entrada
}


global = {
 \key ees \major
 \time 2/4
}

melody = \relative c' {
 \clef treble
 \global
 \autoBeamOff
 r4\f ees8^\markup{Coro} g \bar |:
 bes bes g bes
 ees4( c)
 bes2
 c4 f,(
 \break

 f8) g aes f
 bes4 ees8 c
 aes aes c aes
 f2
 ees2 ~
 ees8 \fermata d^\p d d

 g4 f8 f
 g g d d
 g g a a
 g2 ~
 g8 a bes c
 d4 ees8 c

 d8 g, a bes
 c d ees c
 d4 bes8 bes
 g g f f
 g2 ~
 g8 r ees g \bar :|
}

text = \lyricmode {
 A- le- lu- ia! A- le- lu- ia!
 Cris- to res- sus- ci- tou.
 A- le- lu- ia! A- le- lu- ia!

 Não pro- cu- reis en- tre_as som- bras a pes- so- a de Je- sus.
 Res- sus- ci- tou: e- ra_a Vi- da.
 Bri- lhe_en- tre vós: é a Luz.
 Bri- lhe_en- tre vós: é a Luz.
 A- le-
}

upperA = \new Voice \relative c' {
 r4
 \voiceOne
 ees8[( g]\bar |: g bes4) g8[( bes]
 bes ees4) c8[( ees]
 c g'4) ees8[( g]
 c[ bes aes g]
 f[ ees d c]
 bes4 ees8[( c]
 aes4) c8([ aes]
 f2
 ees2 ~
 ees8) \fermata

 d8([ d d]
 g4 f
 g d
 g a
 g2 ~
 g8) a[( bes c]
 f, a d4) ees g c(
 f a d) ees g c(
 f a d) ees g c(
 f a d) ges bes ees(
 g bes e) aes d f(
 g d' g2) ~
 g d' g8 r ees[ g] \bar :|
}

upperB = \new Voice \relative c {
  \voiceTwo
 \change Staff = lower ees4(--
 \change Staff = upper ees'4)
 d f4 g
 c, g c'
 g bes ees'
 f, c' d-- r4

 bes, f' g-- r4
 ees f-- r
 c ees-- r
 d2
 bes ~
 bes8 r c4(

 bes) c(
 b) c(
 bes) c(
 b) c(
 bes8) r8 r4 s2

 s2 s2 s2 s2 s2 s4 ees
}

upper = {
 \global
 \clef treble
  \upperA \\ \upperB 
}

lowerA = \relative c' {
 s2 \bar |: s2 s2 s2 s2
 s2 s2 s2 bes4 c8[( aes] g2) ~ g8 r r4
 r8 d8[ d d] g4 f8[ f] g[ g] d[ d] g[ g] a[ a] g r8 r4
}

lowerB = \relative c' {
 s2 \bar |: s2 s2 s2 s2
 s2 bes2 ~ bes ~ bes4 bes,( ees) bes8[( g] ees)_\fermata s8 s4
 g2 ~ g2 ~ g2 ~ g2 ~ g8 s8 s4 c'2 ~
 c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c8 r8 s4
}

lower = {
 \global
 \clef bass
  \lowerA \\ \lowerB 
}


\score {
 
   \new Voice = mel { \autoBeamOff \melody }
   \new Lyrics \lyricsto mel \text
   \new PianoStaff 
 \new Staff = upper \upper
 \new Staff = lower \lower
   
 
 \layout {
   \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
 }
 \midi {
   \context {
 \Score
 tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 63 4)
   }
 }
}

Regards,
Neil


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Re: Strange Change Staff behavior

[Carl Sorensen]

Alberto Simões albie at alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt writes:

 
 Hello.
 
 I am having a strange behavior with Change Staff. It is not easy to
 explain as it is quite strange. Basically, I am having a voice defined
 to be drawn on the lower staff, and it is appearing in the upper staff.
 
 As it is not easy to explain, I am sending the lilypond file in attach.
 What is happening: lowerB voice is being drawn in the upper staff.
 
 Thanks for any help
 Alberto


Alberto,

Are you using Windows?  I ask, because when I compiled your file I got
pages and pages of warnings.

When a file is not working properly, if you're not using a terminal window
to run LilyPond (so the warnings and errors show up on the screen), you 
should look at the .log file that is created.  It will have information that
will help you track down your error.

There were lots of warnings, which appeared to me to be the result of not
properly instantiating voices.  So I went through your music and explicitly
instantiated the voices, as recommended in the NR section on polyphony.

I think it's working properly now.

HTH,

Carl


\header {
  title = Cristo Ressuscitou
  composer = J. dos Santos
  poet = P. Minhava
  tagline = Transcrita por Alberto Simões

  ocasioes = entrada
  seccao   = entrada
}

global = {
  \key ees \major
  \time 2/4
}

melody = \relative c' {
  \clef treble
  \global
  \autoBeamOff
  r4\f ees8^\markup{Coro} g \bar |:
  bes bes g bes
  ees4( c)
  bes2
  c4 f,(
  \break

  f8) g aes f
  bes4 ees8 c
  aes aes c aes
  f2
  ees2 ~
  ees8 \fermata d^\p d d

  g4 f8 f
  g g d d
  g g a a
  g2 ~
  g8 a bes c
  d4 ees8 c

  d8 g, a bes
  c d ees c
  d4 bes8 bes
  g g f f
  g2 ~
  g8 r ees g \bar :|
}

text = \lyricmode {
  A- le- lu- ia! A- le- lu- ia!
  Cris- to res- sus- ci- tou.
  A- le- lu- ia! A- le- lu- ia!

  Não pro- cu- reis en- tre_as som- bras a pes- so- a de Je- sus.
  Res- sus- ci- tou: e- ra_a Vi- da.
  Bri- lhe_en- tre vós: é a Luz.
  Bri- lhe_en- tre vós: é a Luz.
  A- le-
}

upperA = \new Voice = upA {
  \voiceOne
  \relative c' {
r4 ees8[( g]\bar |: g bes4) g8[( bes]
bes ees4) c8[( ees]
c g'4) ees8[( g]
c[ bes aes g]
f[ ees d c]
bes4 ees8[( c]
aes4) c8([ aes]
f2
ees2 ~
ees8) \fermata

d8([ d d]
g4 f
g d
g a
g2 ~
g8) a[( bes c]
f, a d4) ees g c(
f a d) ees g c(
f a d) ees g c(
f a d) ges bes ees(
g bes e) aes d f(
g d' g2) ~
g d' g8 r ees[ g] \bar :|
  }
}

upperB = \new Voice = upB {
  \voiceTwo
  \relative c {
  \change Staff = lower ees4--(
  \change Staff = upper ees'4)
  d f4 g
  c, g c'
  g bes ees'
  f, c' d-- r4

  bes, f' g-- r4
  ees f-- r
  c ees-- r
  d2
  bes ~
  bes8 r c4(

  bes) c(
  b) c(
  bes) c(
  b) c(
  bes8) r8 r4 s2

  s2 s2 s2 s2 s2 s4 ees
  }
}

upper = {
  \new Staff = upper
  \global
  \clef treble
 
   \upperA
   \upperB
 
}

lowerA = \new Voice = lowA {
  \voiceOne
  \relative c' {
  s2 \bar |: s2 s2 s2 s2
  s2 s2 s2 bes4 c8[( aes] g2) ~ g8 r r4
  r8 d8[ d d] g4 f8[ f] g[ g] d[ d] g[ g] a[ a] g r8 r4
  }
}

lowerB = \new Voice = lowB {
  \voiceTwo
  \relative c' {
  s2 \bar |: s2 s2 s2 s2
  s2 bes2 ~ bes ~ bes4 bes,( ees) bes8[( g] ees)_\fermata s8 s4
  g2 ~ g2 ~ g2 ~ g2 ~ g8 s8 s4 c'2 ~
  c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c ~ c8 r8 s4
  }
}

lower = {
  \new Staff = lower
  \global
  \clef bass
 
   \lowerA
   \lowerB
 
}


\score {
  
\new Voice = mel { \autoBeamOff \melody }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mel \text
\new PianoStaff 
  \upper
  \lower

  
  \layout {
\context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
  }
  \midi {
\context {
  \Score
  tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 63 4)
}
  }
}








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Re: Looking for proper beam grouping

[Graham Percival]

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 08:38:08PM +, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
 In message 3cbf99092d5f4e77a0cae01edf7be...@trevorlaptop, Trevor  
 Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes

 You'll be pleased to know the revert will not be required
 at all in 2.13.1 to obtain this beaming.

 It works fine now. But (as others have mentioned) why not in 2.12.3?  
 imho it's a bug, and as such ought to be fixed.

Due to limited resources, we're finished with 2.12.  The next
stable version, 2.14, will probably be out in 4-6 months.

If you don't like this, then please volunteer to spend 10 hours a
week backporting things to 2.12, plus something like 100 hours
learning git, the lilypond build process, testing lilypond builds,
etc.


And no, I'm not going to revisit this decision by people whining.

Cheers,
- Graham


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