Re: guitar inlays / labels
It has been practically forever since I did any serious LP work, but just
looking at you code, the ability to draw the 'dot' with the 'A' implies the
possibility of what you want IF you can a. control the vertical location of
the dot and cause it to be filled in as black. Given that, then your only
remaining concern would be the ability of overlaying an inlay with needed
dot notation as you have shown. Trivial in postscript less so here. It is
as my fellow programmers would say 'just another SMOP' Small Matter Of
Programming :) Luck...
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Curt accou...@museworld.com wrote:
Hi, I'm thinking of generating guitar fret diagrams to drill note names
for beginning guitar, and I've gotten this far:
Can anyone think of a way to put the fretboard inlay markers in there?
Either on the diagram, or as labels above or below the fret diagram in the
right fret location? dots on 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, double on the 12th.
(lilypond code below)
\version 2.16.00
\include english.ly
\paper{
indent=0\mm
line-width=120\mm
oddFooterMarkup=##f
oddHeaderMarkup=##f
bookTitleMarkup = ##f
scoreTitleMarkup = ##f
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {
\clef treble
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
\transpose c c \relative fs' {
\override TextScript #'size = #'3.0
a^\markup {
\override #'(fret-diagram-details . (
(finger-code . in-dot)
(dot-label-font-mag . 0.6)
(orientation . landscape)
(xo-font-magnification . 0.4)
(fret-count . 12)
(xo-padding . 0.3))) {
\fret-diagram-verbose
#'( (place-fret 2 10 A inverted) )
}
}
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Bar_engraver
}
}
\midi {
\context {
\Score \with
\settingsFrom { \tempo 4=180 }
}
}
}
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Re: Website easier editing
A somewhat pragmatic approach would be to use a single page suitably subdivided if no scrolling is involved. Else use a two page solution. The fewer pages a user has to link to the faster that person finds what they are looking for. --hsm On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Hi all, Colin Campbell has been working with me on the Introduction of the new website. However, we're still debating what to do with the Easier editing page: http://lilypond.org/website/easier-editing.html In particular, should we: 1) list all programs that help or produce lilypond input code on this page, or 2) only list a few programs here and list the rest elsewhere? (probably somewhere in Usage, with a link from this page to that location) When he began working, he had one opinion and I had the other. But over the past four months, we've switched positions like a finely-honed comedy act -- we still disagree, but we've both taken up the other person's initial position. The argument for #1: we have a unified place for people to look; it's easier to update; it's easier to find; etc. The argument for #2: it doesn't make sense to have algorithmic programming environments like Strasheela and FOMUS in the same list as Denemo, Frescobaldi, and LilyPondTool; having the extra options will only confused newbies; if we keep 4 or 5 highlighted programs in this list and move the rest somewhere else, it won't be much harder to maintain the list; etc. I'm not particularly looking for votes on this issue -- rather, I'm looking for reasons for (or against) #1 and #2 that we haven't thought of. It would be great if somebody said we should do #x because XYZ and then have us go of course! XYZ! That makes everything totally clear; we all agree due to XYZ. If you have other concerns about the website, please don't mention them here. I'll be posting other questions once this issue is resolved. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: documentation help seriously needed
Graham, My area of expertise is editing and one of the things that often make or break a set of docs are the indexes for each manual. Do we have any kind of regression scheme (sorry about the pun) to check for problems peculiar to an index? For instance does each citation in the index lead to a page with the word in context. Given a list of key words and concepts are they in the index? A lot of user questions can be met with a healthy does of RTFM but that becomes increasingly harder to do the thicker the manual(s) become(s). Some of this is problematic in that the best time to do this is with the text frozen--- this to avoid repeated toe-stepping-apon by repeated changes, deletions and additions. --hsm On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: No, that's fine -- we already have somebody to handle the git+compile+doc policy stuff. So far I have no indication that he's overwhelmed with work. If you're up for writing a few lilypond examples (say, creating an example of \bendAfter using a non-integer argument), *that* could be useful... but I'm pretty certain (... well, pretty *hopeful*, at least) that we'll have enough helpful users who can create such examples. Maybe get back in touch in a week if there doesn't seem to be any movement on this issue. :) Cheers, - Graham On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 03:53:12PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: I should be able to handle some git committing / compile checking, and stuff like that if others can do the worst of the typing. Jon On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Here's the current situation with the documentation. 1. we have a number of users who know a lot about lilypond, but A are not familiar with git + compiling + our doc policies. 2. we have a doc editor on Windows who knows about A git+compiling+doc policies, but knows relatively little A about lilypond. 3. we have a number of open documentation issues, some of them A critical [1]. If you belong to category 1, and think you might be able to help with category 3, please contact category 2 (CC'd on this email) or me. [1] http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?can=2q=type=Documentationsort=priority Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-u...@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dynamic and midi velocity
Go right a head and implement your suggestion--- Lilypond is open source you know... ---hsm On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:38 AM, David Raleigh Arnold d...@openguitar.com wrote: On Saturday 06 March 2010 03:12:11 David Kastrup wrote: David Raleigh Arnold d...@openguitar.com writes: Ideally the volume should be preset for each instrument according to ratios expressing the relative natural loudness of the instrument, IOW set it and forget it, and only velocity should be used for dynamics. That is obviously the purpose of the design. Why fight it? No good can come from twiddling the volume in the middle of the performance. I have a (not quite cheap) Ketron Keyboard with a volume pedal. I was rather surprised to realize that putting it to zero would a) considerably lower the volume of notes already hit b) completely stop new notes from being sounded I would have thought that it would act more or less as a simple analog volume control, but it would appear that it _partially_ affects notes already hit. Interesting. I have not checked the corresponding Midi messages, though. Ha! The volumes should be part of the instrument specifications for any lilypond/midi document, and dynamics should relate to velocity alone. To do otherwise was a major mistake in the midi implementation in lilypond. It would be a very good idea to quit trying to make it work in some other way. Of course the solution to the problem is to instantiate a new voice, instrument and volume for every dynamic. Surely a lot of trouble for nothing. Regards, daveA ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Changing staff size
If they don't do the same thing then clearly change the documentation. To the degree that they do something different, changing the name of the command would be good as well. I also like the idea of independent changes as well--- which if possible should be more clearly reflected in the docs. --hsm On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:53 AM, David Stocker dstoc...@thenotesetter.com wrote: I just saw the warning about staff spaces at the bottom of the documentation page. The question remains, is this behavior beneficial? If so, should the documentation and command wording simply be reworked? David Chris wrote: Hi! Is it possible to change the staff size? I found in the documentation only a command to change the note size. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
index additions
Given the distance in the index between page and
print-first-page-number I'd like to suggest changing the text in
notation\spacing.itely starting at line 645 from:
@item print-first-page-number
@funindex print-first-page-number
If set to true, a page number is printed on the first page.
Default: @code{##f}.
@item print-page-number
@funindex print-page-number
If set to false, page numbers are not printed. Default:
@code{##t}.
to add two new index entries:
@cindex page numbers, print first
@item print-first-page-number
@funindex print-first-page-number
If set to true, a page number is printed on the first page.
Default: @code{##f}.
@cindex page numbers, supress
@item print-page-number
@funindex print-page-number
If set to false, page numbers are not printed. Default:
@code{##t}.
--hsm
p.s. this should probably propagate to *\notation as necessary...
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abc2ly 404 error
The first URL mentioned in: C:\Users\hsmyers\Desktop\Lily Projectsabc2ly -h Usage: abc2ly [OPTION]... FILE abc2ly converts ABC music files (see http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc2mtex/abc.txt) to LilyPond input. Options: --version show version number and exit -h, --help show this help and exit -o, --output=FILE write output to FILE -s, --strict be strict about success -b, --beams=None preserve ABC's notion of beams Report bugs via http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.bugs gives a 404 error. Given that http://abcnotation.com/ is the current locus for abc matters, perhaps this needs an update? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: abc2ly 404 error
You might want to add abc2ly to their software list as well, since the old write-up seems to have fallen along the wayside. --hsm On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-01-31, Hugh Myers wrote: The first URL mentioned in: C:\Users\hsmyers\Desktop\Lily Projectsabc2ly -h Usage: abc2ly [OPTION]... FILE abc2ly converts ABC music files (see http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc2mtex/abc.txt) to LilyPond input. Options: --version show version number and exit -h, --help show this help and exit -o, --output=FILE write output to FILE -s, --strict be strict about success -b, --beams=None preserve ABC's notion of beams Report bugs via http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.bugs gives a 404 error. Given that http://abcnotation.com/ is the current locus for abc matters, perhaps this needs an update? Thanks for the report. I've fixed this in git. -Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
indexing the docs
What mechanism creates the index(s) for the documentation? I ask this because while my printed documentation is badly out of date(I'm waiting for 12.14 ;-) ) I by chance noticed three problems just in one project this afternoon; no entry for page number, both entries for page break point to wrong page. Since this is for 2.10 it is probably moot, but I thought I'd ask if for no other reason than to find out how it is done and how it is tested. --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: indexing the docs
Will do. Perhaps this is a way for me to help out. --hsm On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 08:26:21PM -0700, Hugh Myers wrote: What mechanism creates the index(s) for the documentation? Texinfo. Somebody adds @cindex to the docs, and texinfo prints the page of that entry. If you want to add/move @cindex entries, we can talk. Look at the docs in webgit first, and glance at the contributor's guide. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: svg output
SVG is not specific to Windows--- it is a web standard. If Inkscape can manipulate SVG then you can do as described... --hsm On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Gerard McConnell gerry...@indigo.ie wrote: Am I wrong in thinking that when the SVG output is usable for Windows machines, then that output can be imported into Inkscape, where it can be worked on further to produce pages like those in children's piano tutors, with pictures, circles around clefs or key signatures, pretty much any sort of notation and graphic on the same page? Gerard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: svg output
Keeping in mind that I agree with Graham on all points, here is a recent quote from Wikipedia: All major modern web browsers except Microsoft Internet Explorer support and render SVG markup directly.[3] To view SVG files in Internet Explorer, either users have to download and install a browser plugin, or the webmaster can include SVG Web, a JavaScript library currently under development at Google Code[4]. This suggests that 'next year in Jerusalem' is a bit closer than previously thought. --hsm On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 2:56 PM, David Raleigh Arnold d...@openguitar.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:09:36 + Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: new feature (*cough* bugfix) What does that mean? It means that the SVG update introduced, and relied on, so many architectural changes that it's silly to call it a bugfix. Why wasn't svg output fixed when it broke? Because nobody, INCLUDING YOURSELF, sent a well-formed patch to fix it when it broke. Is there is a problem with priorities? Yes -- yours. You're not willing to put the effort into helping the lilypond development team, but you feel qualified to second-guess us. If you're interested in helping, let's talk. We current have a bit of a crisis with bugs -- we don't have enough people checking for regressions. This appears to be an item close to your interests. And all you need is lilypond, a web browser, and an email client. Absolutely no programming needed. Prime example: an hour ago I uploaded 2.13.11, but I forgot to check the regtest comparison. Whoops. I'm so lazy and evil and bad. (ladies: I'm /deliciously/ bad) It would be nice if somebody could check the regtest comparison... it's too late to recall 2.13.11 if it broke anything, but if it *did* break something, the sooner we find out about it, the faster we can fix it. More info in the Contributor's Guide 7.4 Checking and verifying issues http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/contributor/checking-and-verifying-issues After that, it would be nice if somebody could check all the regtests. One person has been doing it, but there's no guarantee that he's found everything. Again, the sooner we find out if something broke, the faster it will be to fix. ... of course, if nobody cares about having a stable lilypond that doesn't break features, then go ahead and ignore these requests for help. But don't come crying to me when stuff breaks. Doesn't lilypond's on line output, including the docs, look a million times better with svg? Err, we can't make the html docs use svg. Last time I checked, even firefox doesn't render lilypond svgs out of the box (it required a special ~/.font/ dir; no clue how it would be done on windows). And even if the open-source browsers properly render the SVG spec -- which will probably happen within the next 3 years, but I'm not holding my breath -- there's still the problem of IE. I seriously doubt that we could consider such a switch for at least the next 10 years. Why the rant? The rant is because you're demanding that other people do work that you're not willing to do yourself. This bugs the bloody mao out of me. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: not able to install lilypond 2.12.2after ¨inval id?conversion¨ on Ububtu 9.10
'const'--- bah humbug; crutch for newbs who don't know how to program ;-) --hsm On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Matthias Kilian k...@outback.escape.de wrote: On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:42:10PM -0800, Patrick McCarty wrote: Second, if you really want to compile for some reason, compile 2.12.3, which should include that fix. 2.12.3 does indeed include the fix in lily/relocate.cc. This may help, but IMHO Ubuntu ships wrong headers or whatever. strchr(3) returns char *, not const char *. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Need help before I can ask the right question...
Here is what I've pieced together thus far:
%%
%%
%% s1.ly -- first scale from Diatonic Major and Minor Scales by Andres Segovia
%%
%%
\version 2.13.7
\header {
title = Diatonic Major and Minor Scales
subtitle = Scale 1
composer = Andres Segovia
meter = Practice each scale apoyando
piece = seven times as indicated below
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
theScale = {
c4-2 d-4 e-1 f-2
g-4 a-1 b-3 c-1
d-3 e-1 f-2 g-4
a-1 b-3 c-4 b-3
a-1 g-4 f-2 e-1
d-1 c-3 b-1 a-3
g-4 f-2 e-1 d-4
c-2
\bar :|
}
{
\set Score.defaultBarType =
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff \relative c' {
\theScale
}
\new TabStaff \relative c {
\theScale
}
}
This leaves only the information beneath the notes left out. I believe
the numbers shown above the notes represent fingering (although I'm
hardly sure[it at least matches the original].) The numbers and
spanning lines under the notes can't of course be fingering since that
would be impossible. Also before I forget, this is a practice exercise
for guitar...
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:07 AM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
On 20/12/09 12:17, Hugh Myers wrote:
In Segovia's 'Diatonic Major and Minor Scales', under the notes shown
for a given scale are marks beginning with a number surrounded by
parenthesis followed by a line vaguely parallel to the notes,
concluding with an uptick between a given pair of notes. What is this
called and how might I duplicate it in Lilypond?
You mean something like this?
%%
\version 2.13.9
\paper {
#(set-paper-size a4)
indent = 0\cm
}
string = #(define-music-function (parser location stringnum osp dirn shorten
adjBreak adjEnd)
(string? number? number? pair? number? number?)
#{
\once \override TextSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #$osp
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text = \markup \bold
{ \teeny \concat { \circle { \finger $stringnum } } }
\once \override TextSpanner #'font-shape = #'upright
\once \override TextSpanner #'direction = #$dirn
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-period = #0.8
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #0.6
\once \override TextSpanner #'thickness = #0.8
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text = \markup {
\draw-line #(cons 0 (/ $dirn -2)) }
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'stencil-align-dir-y
= #CENTER
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'padding = #(car
$shorten)
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'padding = #(cdr
$shorten)
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'padding =
#$adjEnd
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'X =
#$adjBreak
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'text = ##f
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'text = ##f
#})
\score {
\relative c {
\clef treble_8
\override Fingering #'staff-padding = #'()
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
\override Fingering #'add-stem-support = ##f
\string 6 #0 #UP #'(0 . -1) #1 #1 f,-1\startTextSpan fis-2
g-3 gis-4\stopTextSpan
\string 5 #0 #UP #'(0 . -1) #1 #1 b-1\startTextSpan c-2 cis-3
d-4\stopTextSpan
\string 4 #0 #UP #'(0 . -1) #1 #1 f-1\startTextSpan fis-2 g-3
gis-4\stopTextSpan
\string 3 #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #1 #1 b-1\startTextSpan c-2
cis-3 d-4\stopTextSpan
\string 2 #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #1 #1 e-1\startTextSpan f-2
fis-3 g-4\stopTextSpan
\string 1 #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #1 #1 b-1\startTextSpan c-2
cis-3 d-4 c-1 cis-2 d-3 dis-4\stopTextSpan
\string 2 #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #1 #1 f,-1\startTextSpan fis-2
g-3 gis-4\stopTextSpan
\string 3 #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #1 #1 c,-1\startTextSpan cis-2
d-3 dis-4\stopTextSpan
\string 4 #0 #UP #'(0 . -1) #1 #1 fis,-1\startTextSpan g-2
gis-3 a-4\stopTextSpan
\string 5 #0 #UP #'(0 . -1) #1 #1 c,-1\startTextSpan cis-2
d-3 dis-4\stopTextSpan
\string 6 #0 #UP #'(0 . -1) #1 #1 fis,-1\startTextSpan g-2
gis-3 a-4 g-1 gis-2 a-3 ais-4\stopTextSpan
\string 5 #0 #UP #'(0 . -1) #1 #1 cis-1\startTextSpan d-2
dis-3 e-4\stopTextSpan_\markup\italic { etc. }
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Bar_engraver
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
}
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Re: flash cards
Right you are! This should take care of that oversight. Either place it in the same directory as cards.ly or in some some place that Lilypond can find--- then try again. --hsm On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Herbert Liechti herbert.liec...@thinx.ch wrote: Hugh Myers schrieb: I have previously seen inquires about making flash cards with Lilypond. Thinking that this would be a good way to learn more about the world of musical typesetting I decided to re-invent this particular wheel. With a fair amount of help from the list here is cards.ly: %% %% %% cards.ly -- Lilypond flash cards with tablature %% %% \version 2.13.7 \include rhythm.ly Hi, trying to compile this example fails because of the missing rhythm.ly Best regards rhythm.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Need help before I can ask the right question...
In Segovia's 'Diatonic Major and Minor Scales', under the notes shown for a given scale are marks beginning with a number surrounded by parenthesis followed by a line vaguely parallel to the notes, concluding with an uptick between a given pair of notes. What is this called and how might I duplicate it in Lilypond? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Need help before I can ask the right question...
Thanks James--- my description works a lot better with an illustration! --hsm On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote: Here's a link to what is being mentioned here: http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/look_inside/1938302/image/137025 -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Hugh Myers Sent: Sun 20/12/2009 1:17 To: lilypond-user Subject: Need help before I can ask the right question... In Segovia's 'Diatonic Major and Minor Scales', under the notes shown for a given scale are marks beginning with a number surrounded by parenthesis followed by a line vaguely parallel to the notes, concluding with an uptick between a given pair of notes. What is this called and how might I duplicate it in Lilypond? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: padding at top of first page
Thanks for the pointer, Alexander. I had looked, but not far enough.
Here is what works:
\version 2.13.7
\header {
tagline = ##f
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
\paper{
indent = 0\mm
paper-width = 3\in
line-width = 1.5\in
paper-height = 5\in
print-page-number = ##f
after-title-space = 0\mm
before-title-space = 0\mm
between-system-padding = 0\mm
between-system-space = 0\mm
between-title-space = 0\mm
head-separation = 0\mm
page-top-space = 0\mm
ragged-last-bottom = ##f
}
\relative c'{
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = ##f
e,4 s2.
\pageBreak
f4 s2.
\pageBreak
g4 s2.
\pageBreak
a4 s2.
}
I've now got the basis for creating flash cards in Lilypond. Even
though commercial cards are inexpensive, these are cheaper and can be
customized to suit my needs (adding tablature for instance.) Besides
it was a good way to learn a bit more about Lilypond.
--hsm
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote:
Alexander Kobel wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
How do I remove it such that each page begins at same top-left corner?
If you're not afraid of using the command line, if you're on Linux (might
work on Windows also, but I have no clue if you can get all the required
tools there), and if the settings explained in the Notation Reference don't
help, I can dig out a small script which really gives a tight crop.
Sorry for the noise, it's already on the list. See this thread:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-07/msg00645.html
The essential part is in the %-trimmed.pdf rule of the Makefile.
Cheers,
Alexander
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Re: restraining lilypond
Key in my testing to both first and last page top-left problems is:
\paper{
indent = 0\mm
paper-width = 3\in
line-width = 1.5\in
paper-height = 5\in
print-page-number = ##f
after-title-space = 0\mm
before-title-space = 0\mm
between-system-padding = 0\mm
between-system-space = 0\mm
between-title-space = 0\mm
head-separation = 0\mm
page-top-space = 0\mm
ragged-last-bottom = ##f
}
so thanks for the pointer to ragged-last-bottom.
--hsm
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:20 AM, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
I had expected each page to begin in the same location. They don't.
Why? What may be done to restrain lilypond?
i just run it with version 2.12.3 where it seems okay to me.
then i added a new page (with version 2.13.9) and it seems that only the
last page is affected - i suggest to check the ragged-bottom and
ragged-last-bottom (default-) settings!
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inter staff spacing
Given:
\version 2.13.7
\header {
tagline = ##f
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
\paper{
indent = 0\mm
paper-width = 3\in
line-width = 1.5\in
paper-height = 5\in
print-page-number = ##f
after-title-space = 0\mm
before-title-space = 0\mm
between-system-padding = 0\mm
between-system-space = 0\mm
between-title-space = 0\mm
head-separation = 0\mm
page-top-space = 0\mm
ragged-last-bottom = ##f
}
flash = {
e,4 s2.
\pageBreak
f4 s2.
\pageBreak
g4 s2.
\pageBreak
a4 s2.
}
{
\new Staff \relative c' {
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = ##f
\flash
}
\new TabStaff \relative c {
\flash
}
}
How do I control the distance between the staff and the tab staff. I
believe it is distorted because there is no other data on the page
which invokes some sort of stretching algorithm. Is there a way to
adjust this? I've played around with \override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup
#'minimum-Y-extent to no avail(I can't claim that I 'played' either
correctly or in the right place).
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function variable question
Given:
flashNote = #(define-music-function (parser location note)(ly:music?) #{
$note s2. \pageBreak
#}
)
I'd like to modify it so that a fixed duration for the note can be
within the function rather than in the calling sequence. Like so:
instead of
\flashNote e,4
I'd rather
\flashNote e,
I've tried various versions of $note4, {$note}4 etc--- all producing
errors of course. Clues? Suggestions?
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Re: function variable question
Thanks again Alexander--- thats the third time today you've bailed me
out! Hope I can return same someday.
--hgsm
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Given:
flashNote = #(define-music-function (parser location note)(ly:music?) #{
$note s2. \pageBreak
#}
)
I'd like to modify it so that a fixed duration for the note can be
within the function rather than in the calling sequence. [...]
I've tried various versions of $note4, {$note}4 etc--- all producing
errors of course. Clues? Suggestions?
Inside the music function, note is essentially an arbitrary music
expression, so you can't just attach the length, as you recognized.
Basically, you'd have to parse the whole music expression, and replace the
chord durations by a quarter.
Luckily, there's already a function called \makeRhythm in
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=390 , doing exactly this. With this
included,
flashNote = #(define-music-function (parser location note)(ly:music?) #{
\makeRhythm $note 4 s2. \pageBreak
#}
)
should do what you want.
Cheers,
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flash cards
I have previously seen inquires about making flash cards with
Lilypond. Thinking that this would be a good way to learn more about
the world of musical typesetting I decided to re-invent this
particular wheel. With a fair amount of help from the list here is
cards.ly:
%%
%%
%% cards.ly -- Lilypond flash cards with tablature
%%
%%
\version 2.13.7
\include rhythm.ly
\header {
tagline = ##f
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'next-staff-spacing = #'(
(space . 15)(padding . 0)(stretchability . 0)(minimum-distance . 12))
}
}
\paper {
indent = 0\mm
paper-width = 3\in
line-width = 1.5\in
paper-height = 5\in
print-page-number = ##f
ragged-last-bottom = ##f
}
flashNote = #(define-music-function (parser location note)(ly:music?) #{
\makeRhythm $note 4 s2. \pageBreak
#}
)
flashcard = {
\flashNote e,
\flashNote f
\flashNote fis
\flashNote g
\flashNote gis
\flashNote a
\flashNote ais
\flashNote b
\flashNote c
\flashNote cis
\flashNote d
\flashNote dis
\flashNote e
\flashNote f
\flashNote fis
\flashNote g
\flashNote gis
\flashNote a
\flashNote ais
\flashNote b
\flashNote c
\flashNote cis
\flashNote d
\flashNote dis
\flashNote e
\flashNote f
\flashNote fis
\flashNote g
\flashNote gis
\flashNote a
\flashNote ais
\flashNote b
\flashNote c
\flashNote cis
\flashNote d
\flashNote dis
}
{
\new StaffGroup
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = ##f
\new Staff \relative c' {
\flashcard
}
\new TabStaff \relative c {
\flashcard
}
}
Most of the 'picky' stuff is in \header, \layout and \paper. The
function \flashNote is there because I dislike typing when I don't
have to although I'm not fanatic about it ;-) It is also there because
I wanted an excuse to learn more about Lilypond functions(this one is
beginner level substitution at best). Modifying this for similar needs
should not be difficult.
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padding at top of first page
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Re: simple editor for windows
Given what is out there in open source land for MFC capable programmers, I have to admit to the DIY vice myself. However when I wake up and realize that I don't particularly want to be 'there', I'm thankful for the editor I use most--- EditPlus http://www.editplus.com/index.html It has everything I need for almost any language I care to work in and is 'in my face' the least of any editor I've ever used--- going back more than 30 years. Of course YMMV and I'll admit to having a favorite in the ever popular vim/emacs wars (I won't say which ;-) ) But if you are looking for something greater than notepad and less than our favorite pair, I'd recommend a try out... --hsm On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Ed Ardzinski ed_ardzin...@hotmail.com wrote: All interesting comments - way back when I first encountered Lilypond (3 years ago or so?) I just decided to write my own editor and stuff it full of commands to enter code fragments I find useful (and some other things - open Acrobat Reader, call LP on a file, a few other things). Every few months I dust off my MFC skills and make some improvements. As satisfying as this route makes me feel, I would NEVER ever suggest this for anyone else, or even suggest that anyone else use my editor! ;-) As for a more general topic of using a text editor for any purpose, this Windows programmer type likes basic notepad the best. I've use many others that have had thier benefits and drawbacks, but notepad was just a chore to use for LP. Context was mentioned and I think I recall hearing about the LP plug-in for code highlighting - I might have to give tha a try. I would say using Wordpad would have it's benefits with drag and drop (which was essentially my starting point for a DIY editor for Lilypond), so I don't think there is really a right answer as much as there is a text editor that you will fell comfortable with. Saving as plain text with an .ly extension is (should be) a pretty easy thing to do in any text editor. :-) Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
restraining lilypond
Given:
\version 2.13.7
\header {
tagline = ##f
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
\paper{
indent = 0\mm
paper-width = 3\in
line-width = 1.5\in
paper-height = 5\in
print-page-number = ##f
}
\relative c'{
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = ##f
e,4 s2.
\pageBreak
f4 s2.
}
I had expected each page to begin in the same location. They don't.
Why? What may be done to restrain lilypond?
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Re: restraining lilypond
Thanks James,
I'll give it a go.
--hsm
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:21 PM, James Bailey
derhindem...@googlemail.com wrote:
I only noticed this because I'm checking the regression tests, but I think
page-top-space is the setting you would need.
You can find an example of its use it in the regression tests.
On 18.12.2009, at 03:54, Hugh Myers wrote:
Given:
\version 2.13.7
\header {
tagline = ##f
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
\paper{
indent = 0\mm
paper-width = 3\in
line-width = 1.5\in
paper-height = 5\in
print-page-number = ##f
}
\relative c'{
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = ##f
e,4 s2.
\pageBreak
f4 s2.
}
I had expected each page to begin in the same location. They don't.
Why? What may be done to restrain lilypond?
--hsm
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Re: restraining lilypond
Adding page-top-space = 0\mm to \paper doesn't seem to make any
difference. Perhaps my incantation is incorrect?
--hsm
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks James,
I'll give it a go.
--hsm
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:21 PM, James Bailey
derhindem...@googlemail.com wrote:
I only noticed this because I'm checking the regression tests, but I think
page-top-space is the setting you would need.
You can find an example of its use it in the regression tests.
On 18.12.2009, at 03:54, Hugh Myers wrote:
Given:
\version 2.13.7
\header {
tagline = ##f
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
\paper{
indent = 0\mm
paper-width = 3\in
line-width = 1.5\in
paper-height = 5\in
print-page-number = ##f
}
\relative c'{
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = ##f
e,4 s2.
\pageBreak
f4 s2.
}
I had expected each page to begin in the same location. They don't.
Why? What may be done to restrain lilypond?
--hsm
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Re: Midi2ly work for Windows?
For windows(or dos for that matter) to 'know' what midi2ly(I presume an .exe file) is you have to either be in the same directory or the file has to be in a directory that dos knows about--- one of the directories shown when you type path at the command line. For instance: C:\Users\hsmyerspath PATH=C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7\miktex\bin;C:\Program Files\PHP\;C:\Program Files\ActiveState Komodo IDE 4.2\;C:\Perl\site\b in;C:\Perl\bin;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\; C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\AGL;c:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\90\Tools\binn\;C:\Program Files\MySQL\MySQL Server 5.0\bin;C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\L ilyPond\usr\bin;C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin;C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7\miktex\bin;C:\Program Files\PHP\;C:\Program Fil es\ActiveState Komodo IDE 4.2\;C:\Perl\site\bin;C:\Perl\bin;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Progra m Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\DLLShared\;C:\Program Files\Commo n Files\Adobe\AGL;c:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\90\Tools\binn\;C:\Program Files\MySQL\MySQL Server 5.0\bin;C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin C:\Users\hsmyers If say, you had C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin in your path statement and you had midi2ly.exe in that directory then everything should work. --hsm On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Austin Wiegand austinshotmail@hotmail.com wrote: Am I just not entering it right or does it not work for Windows? I open the dos prompt and type ...\midi2ly pi-type1.mid and get the error: 'midi2ly' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. Even when I just try running the program without a midi after it Windows doesn't know what it is. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
tablature fingering (again)
Since this:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
b\4 e\3 gis\2 e' 4 s2
}
lower = {
s2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
\set Score.defaultBarType = |
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
is wrong--- the circled numbers are not playable as given, and
contradict the tablature which is correct, how do I remove the
offenders? I'm missing something or misunderstanding something or
both--- hints?
--hsm
p.s. if the slash Ns are removed then the tablature is incorrect with
only two frets indicated and one wrong...
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Re: tablature fingering (again)
Thanks Federico,
Not so much wrong, but 'doesn't match the original' ;-)
--hsm
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Since this:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
b\4 e\3 gis\2 e' 4 s2
}
lower = {
s2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
\set Score.defaultBarType = |
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
is wrong--- the circled numbers are not playable as given, and
contradict the tablature which is correct, how do I remove the
offenders? I'm missing something or misunderstanding something or
both--- hints?
I can't see what's wrong here.. The circled numbers refer to the
strings you have to pick to play that note: B is on the 4th string, E
on the 3rd and Gs on the 2nd. So it's ok.
Anyway, if you want to remove the circled numbers, you can use:
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\override StringNumber #'transparent = ##t
}
}
HTH,
Federico
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Re: tablature fingering (again)
Patrick,
How Perl like--- more than one way to do things ;-)
--hsm
p.s. likewise thanks for the tab list pointer...
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.de wrote:
You can also use
upper = {
\set TabStaff.minimumFret = #9
b e gis e' 4 s2
}
instead of
upper = {
b\4 e\3 gis\2 e' 4 s2
}
to avoid the string number indications.
By the way: There is a LilyPond mailing list for tablature users:
http://lists.lilynet.net/tablatures/
hth
patrick
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:17:18 -0700
Von: Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com
An: Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com
CC: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Betreff: Re: tablature fingering (again)
Thanks Federico,
Not so much wrong, but 'doesn't match the original' ;-)
--hsm
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Since this:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
b\4 e\3 gis\2 e' 4 s2
}
lower = {
s2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
\set Score.defaultBarType = |
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
is wrong--- the circled numbers are not playable as given, and
contradict the tablature which is correct, how do I remove the
offenders? I'm missing something or misunderstanding something or
both--- hints?
I can't see what's wrong here.. The circled numbers refer to the
strings you have to pick to play that note: B is on the 4th string, E
on the 3rd and Gs on the 2nd. So it's ok.
Anyway, if you want to remove the circled numbers, you can use:
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\override StringNumber #'transparent = ##t
}
}
HTH,
Federico
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Re: Is there a perl script to partially convert ascii tabs to lilypond input?
I asked the question (after googling I might add ;-) ) because I figured if anything was on going it would have been heard about here. Mostly I asked in order to avoid re-inventing the wheel. While I don't claim to have solved the problem, what I do have is what I call an 80% solution. It will read in an ascii text file and produce an .ly file. It does so with no effort to solve any of the trickier problems involved, as yet not even the features I more or less plan on--- this is something I started a year or so ago and only now have gotten back to. Mostly I write these sort of things because the challenge is interesting, giving me a chance to learn about the language or the problem or both... --hsm On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com wrote: Marc Hohl wrote: But seriously: is tuxguitar able to read ascii tabs? It has a export function to lilypond. AFAIK, tuxguitar can't open ascii tabs. But it can import midi file very well. Does a good converter ascii2midi exist? Kguitar should be able to read ascii files (use .tab extension and you will see the file in the open window), but I've tried an ascii file right now and does not work. It says: Can't load or import song!It may be a damaged/wrong file format or, if you're trying experimental importers it may be a flaw with the import code. I don't have any other ascii tab so I can't test it much.. HTH, Federico -- http://gnurag.net/blog/ http://fsfe.org/ http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/LibrePlanetItalia ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: collatoral damage / regressions
I suppose that at least part of the problem is focus. I usually turn to the list for answers to problems that I've not been able to solve from the existing documentation. It usually doesn't occur to me that there might be some larger use for the question itself. It probably should--- as an obvious for example, look at FAQs for instance. There what might be an annoyance is changed to a resource, usually without a great deal of effort. --hsm On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote: Hugh Myers wrote: [...] As long as I'm exposing my thinking to the world (at least the Lilypond world) another thing that needs to be pointed out to the UC (User Community) is that they have a sure and certain value in their ability to say that they don't understand a particular piece of documentation. [...] Correct. Which is part of why Graham does even consider to answer many requests on -user. It must be really frustrating to invest that much time and energy in the docs, and see people a) ignoring it, or b) reading and trying to understand it, but not mentioning in their mails what (or even better: why) they don't understand it. The latter case is plainly sad, the second is - well, don't really know, since you always assume the first one, and develop some ignorance; but it's certainly not helpful from the second type of inquirer to not give hints what should be done better, just as you said. May I remark that a short scan through your mails starting a new thread revealed only two pointer to the manuals (in instantiating voices and broken link)? Not that I do any better, I have to admit. (*Writes down note to himself.*) Cheers, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Is there a perl script to partially convert ascii tabs to lilypond input?
Patrick, Thanks for the run down. From your comments and others, I would guess that the lack might have something to do with the lack of standards in ascii tabs and the perception of how hard it would be to find a solution and so on. Encourages me that my idea of starting with what can be done easily and working from there might be a useful one. Likewise Perl and the command line allows me freedom from platform restrictions similar to LilyPond. All and all a 'fun' project to work on--- for at least my definition of 'fun'... ---hsm On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Patrick Schmidt p.l.schm...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Hugh, I haven't heard of any perl scripts to convert ascii tabs to lilypond (apart from your script. Sounds interesting!) but I know of two programs that are supposed to be able to import ascii and export MusicXML (with musicxml2ly you can convert to LilyPond): 1) GuitarPro (commercial) 2) Harmony Assistant (commercial) With GuitarPro 5 (Mac-version) I can open .txt/.tab-files but tablature is faulty and the program crashes when I try to export MusicXML. Harmony Assistant seems to do a rather decent job but I only tried the demo version. http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/harmony.htm TablEdit could be an alternative. It can also read ascii and you can export it to abc and midi. (With abc2ly and midi2ly you can convert to lilypond.) http://tabledit.mac.findmysoft.com/ There also seems to exist a solution to convert from midi to ascii and vice versa but I haven't tried it. http://www.gnmidi.com/handbook/english/txt2midi.htm hth patrick Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 05:05:00 -0700 Von: Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com An: Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com CC: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: Is there a perl script to partially convert ascii tabs to lilypond input? I asked the question (after googling I might add ;-) ) because I figured if anything was on going it would have been heard about here. Mostly I asked in order to avoid re-inventing the wheel. While I don't claim to have solved the problem, what I do have is what I call an 80% solution. It will read in an ascii text file and produce an .ly file. It does so with no effort to solve any of the trickier problems involved, as yet not even the features I more or less plan on--- this is something I started a year or so ago and only now have gotten back to. Mostly I write these sort of things because the challenge is interesting, giving me a chance to learn about the language or the problem or both... --hsm On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com wrote: Marc Hohl wrote: But seriously: is tuxguitar able to read ascii tabs? It has a export function to lilypond. AFAIK, tuxguitar can't open ascii tabs. But it can import midi file very well. Does a good converter ascii2midi exist? Kguitar should be able to read ascii files (use .tab extension and you will see the file in the open window), but I've tried an ascii file right now and does not work. It says: Can't load or import song!It may be a damaged/wrong file format or, if you're trying experimental importers it may be a flaw with the import code. I don't have any other ascii tab so I can't test it much.. HTH, Federico -- http://gnurag.net/blog/ http://fsfe.org/ http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/LibrePlanetItalia ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Sarah Kreuz, die DSDS-Siegerin der Herzen, mit ihrem eindrucksvollen Debütalbum One Moment in Time. http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/musik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page break failure
Also went away after an amendment in bar 22! Not sure what is going on
here, but it is at least fun to watch. My feeling is that once every
thing is correct, some of these things will go away.
--hsm
p.s. I'll save the \paper code for worst case, thanks Marc...
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote:
Hugh Myers schrieb:
Since the project can't be done in 2.12, what do you suggest?
I inserted a paper block after the \header:
\paper {
indent = 0
between-system-space = 2\cm
between-system-padding = #5
ragged-bottom=##f
ragged-last-bottom=##f
}
You can play with the numbers, but at least it seems to work.
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triplet chord
Given this:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
e \times 2/3 { e,8 gis [ b e ] } s4
}
lower = {
e,,2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
\set Score.defaultBarType = |
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
How do I go about achieving a triplet chord--- clearly the above
doesn't, neither does inclusion withing '' and ''. Hints?
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Re: page break failure
Clearly it is better that Graham continue as he has since the benefits greatly out weight any negatives. And most beginners eventually form their inquires to fit the forum in question. Thanks for the tip on 2.odd versus 2.stable as well. Hadn't realized that a policy of collateral damage was allowed. Given your approach to testing (and your experience) this should work as well as more conservative approaches. It also implies a closely fitting development team in order to avoid You stepped on my WHAT! remarks :) I've only been doing software development for 30 years or so and I'm lucky enough that I'm still adding tricks to my bag--- this approach will certainly be one of them. I'll wait until I've read (and hopefully, understand) you enclosure before going further. --hsm On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote: Hugh Myers wrote: Second point taken. I hope you realize that 2.13 has bug fixes for 2.12--- yes? Without those, there is no project... Yes it has (as well as enhancements), but during developement - as is an unstable release - they are allowed to break other things to a certain degree. (Very loosely speaking. There is a really strict policy about this, but it may happen. And tests are done more precisely for stable releases.) I don't suppose you took a look? No, probably not. Graham spends quite some time for LilyPond, and does not care about ill-posed questions or bug reports. (Well, he cares, suffers in his inner, thinks about what went wrong with documentation, but does not try to get a clue or answer out of them.) Which is the best thing he can do, since this means that he takes the time to get you better documentation, engaged developers, or releases. Which he manages, at least to a large part, amonst other things. Did you notice that in included tablature? If you had, then you would perhaps have sent me a different 'Most spacing bugs can be reproduced...' Well. It certainly can be simpler than what you've written. And it's awkward trying to debug anything in this mess if you didn't write it yourself. In your example, all the textSpan stuff is completely irrelevant, as well as the chords themselves (other than their vertical extent below the staves, i.e.). So that's a bunch of lines you can just spare out. I was surprised to see that the repeat mattered, though. Finally, make sure that your code causes no warnings beyond those really belonging to the problem you're asking about. There was something about a volta spanner, which might or might not be a cause of your problem (since it works fine without the repeat), but I can get the bug without warnings. If there /are/ warnings, however, chances are that anybody looking at your code immediately thinks your fault. Also note that I made no claim of 'BUG'. I am new at this and would more likely expect the problem to have been caused by something I did, not a bug. Actually, it looks like one. I remember a similar bug report about chords not long ago, although I did not follow it with high interest. The attached code reproduces the problem, and is far simpler. (Though even this is not as minimal as I'd wish to have it.) For a workaround: You can include \pageBreak commands at your choice to get a, well, page break. Put them in, e.g. after the last line correctly fit unto the page, and everything's fine again. But you're right in your initial guess that you should not have to tweak this yourself. Cheers, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: triplet chord
James, e,8 gis b e --hsm On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:47 AM, James Bailey jameselihubai...@googlemail.com wrote: What notes should be in the chord? On 02.12.2009, at 09:31, Hugh Myers wrote: … How do I go about achieving a triplet chord--- clearly the above doesn't, neither does inclusion withing '' and ''. Hints? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: triplet chord
Same chord repeated three times. --hsm On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, James Bailey jameselihubai...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm completely confused. A triplet, in this instance, would consist of three notes which are to be played in the same time span as two. What are the three notes to be played in this time span? I understand one of the three notes is a chord, e gis b e, what are the other two? On 02.12.2009, at 18:30, Hugh Myers wrote: James, e,8 gis b e --hsm On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:47 AM, James Bailey jameselihubai...@googlemail.com wrote: What notes should be in the chord? On 02.12.2009, at 09:31, Hugh Myers wrote: … How do I go about achieving a triplet chord--- clearly the above doesn't, neither does inclusion withing '' and ''. Hints? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: triplet chord
You know I could swear that I already tried that, but at 3a.m. who
knows what slips across my keyboard--- Thanks Phil!
--hsm
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Philip Potter philip.g.pot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/2 Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com:
Same chord repeated three times.
This works for me:
\relative c' {
\times 2/3 { e gis b e e gis b e e gis b e }
e gis b e e gis b e e gis b e
}
For 3 triplets followed by 3 regular notes.
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Re: collatoral damage / regressions (was: page break failure)
Graham, I wonder if it not so much a matter of prioritization as it is a matter of intimidation. That is to say that most people seeing the process from the out side find it a bit scary provoking a oh I couldn't do that kind of feeling. I know that in my own experience with users turned loose on the development problem, the single greatest obstacle was overcoming their convictions of in-ability. There are some exceptions--- most engineers seem convinced of there ability to write legible prose, the problem is convincing them that they can't ;-) I do know that you've already discovered the value of enlisting your user community, having said that, I think you might find them quite willing to do more than you suspect. As long as I'm exposing my thinking to the world (at least the Lilypond world) another thing that needs to be pointed out to the UC (User Community) is that they have a sure and certain value in their ability to say that they don't understand a particular piece of documentation. They may not know the answer to their questions, but they do know the things that don't answer them. Such people, if they can write and if they have user empathy make extremely good documentation specialists, better than most programmers certainly. I seem to be babbling again... --hsm p.s. to paraphrase Einstein, Software should be just difficult enough to use to be useful and no more so... On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 05:33:55AM -0700, Hugh Myers wrote: Hadn't realized that a policy of collateral damage was allowed. Given your approach to testing (and your experience) this should work as well as more conservative approaches. As Alexander wrote, it's not so much that collateral damage is allowed, it's that we don't have the resources to ensure that it never occurs. My fundamental job, above all else, is organization. I match up willing volunteers (and sometimes pressure unwilling volunteers) with problems in lilypond development. There are few people willing to help track regressions; from that, I conclude that this is not a priority for users. If anybody would like to help, please see: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/help-us I have more info specific to regressions (collatoral damage), if anybody would like to help with this. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
broken link
The link to Building documentation without compiling LilyPond. on http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/help-us is broken (404). --hsm p.s. which list is correct for such things? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Is there a perl script to partially convert ascii tabs to lilypond input?
Should probably support at least some advanced timing measures ala Guitar-Pro or some such... Pointers? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: collatoral damage / regressions (was: page break failure)
Err--- that would be a chortle yes? --hsm On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:07 PM, James Bailey jameselihubai...@googlemail.com wrote: On 03.12.2009, at 02:33, Hugh Myers wrote: Graham, … I do know that you've already discovered the value of enlisting your user community, having said that, I think you might find them quite willing to do more than you suspect. I'll admit it, I laughed… out loud… a little ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
bogus (and or missing) error messages
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bar numbering
Clearly this doesn't work:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
b c d
}
lower = {
gis, d e, 2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\set Score.barAlways = ##t
\set Score.defaultBarType = |
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
what does? That is, what numbers each bar, not each not?
--hsm
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vertical staff and tab
I've yet to chase down a working example that given:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
e,, f g
a b c
d e f
g a b
c d e
f g a
b c d
e s2
}
lower = {
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto 1 {
e f g
a b c
d e f
g a b
c d e
f g a
b c d
e f g
a
}
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
allows me to increase the vertical distance between the notes as shown
and the text beneath. Hints relative to the small text above?
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Re: bar numbering
So for the truly picky, insert:
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
just before you change and let the bar numbers fall where they may!
Much thanks Brett...
--hsm
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Brett Duncan bdd1...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Clearly this doesn't work:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
b c d
}
lower = {
gis, d e, 2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\set Score.barAlways = ##t
\set Score.defaultBarType = |
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
what does? That is, what numbers each bar, not each not?
Instead of
\set Score.barAlways = ##t
try
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
HTH
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page break failure
Pardon the length of the piece of code, but clearly demonstrates the
problem where as other pieces don't (got to be a page long for
instance...):
%
% malaguena.ly -- qd testbed for mixed notation score and tab.
%
\version 2.13.7
\header {
title = Malaguena
subtitle = none
composer = Music by Unknown
}
tspan = #(define-music-function (parser location text osp dirn shorten
adjBreak adjEnd) (string? number? number? pair? number? number?) #{
% set osp to 999 if spanner is colliding with another element
% this will position the spanner outside all other elements
% can be normally be set to zero
\once \override TextSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #$osp
% add '\bold' to end of \markup if desired...
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text =
\markup\italic\small { \concat { { $text } } }
\once \override TextSpanner #'font-shape = #'upright
% direction (either #UP or #DOWN)
\once \override TextSpanner #'direction = #$dirn
% setup dashed line and draw a bracket edge on RHS
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-period = #1.5
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #0.3
\once \override TextSpanner #'thickness = #0.8
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text = \markup
{ \draw-line #(cons 0 (/ $dirn -1)) }
% set alignment of line with reference to left text
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left
#'stencil-align-dir-y = #CENTER
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'padding = #(car $shorten)
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'padding =
#(cdr $shorten)
% allow adjustment of line end when it wraps to following stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'padding
= #$adjEnd
% adjust LH end of line when it wraps to following stave so that it doesn't
% extend to the left of the notes on the stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'X = #$adjBreak
% optional override to remove text and bracket edge at line breaks
% comment out to repeat text at each measure wrap
% \once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'text = ##f
% \once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'text = ##f
#})
ringer = \tspan let ring #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #5 #1
chord = e b gis e b e,
nullTempo = { \once \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \tempo 4 = 199 }
upper = {
\tempo 4=90
\barNumberCheck #1 \chord \chord \chord
\repeat volta 2 {
\tempo 4=200
\barNumberCheck #2 b c d
\barNumberCheck #3 d c b
\barNumberCheck #4 c a b
\barNumberCheck #5 \acciaccatura d8 \voiceOne c4 b a
\barNumberCheck #6 b a g
\barNumberCheck #7 a g f
\nullTempo
}
\alternative {
{
\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
\barNumberCheck #8 r4 \ringer \times 2/3 { gis8 \startTextSpan
b e } e,4 \times 2/3 { gis8 b e } e,2
}
{
\repeat volta 2 {
\bar :|.|:
\barNumberCheck #10 { e8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
\barNumberCheck #11 e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e]
\barNumberCheck #12 a,8 [e'] c [e] b [e]
\barNumberCheck #13 a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e']
}
}
}
\barNumberCheck #14 e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e]
\barNumberCheck #15 d8 [e] c [e] b [e]
\barNumberCheck #16 c8 [e] a, [e'] b [e]
\barNumberCheck #17 c8 [e] b [e] a, [e']
\barNumberCheck #18 b8 [e] a, [e'] g, [e']
\barNumberCheck #19 a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e']
\barNumberCheck #20 e,4 gis b
\stopTextSpan
\barNumberCheck #21 e b gis e b e, 2.
\barNumberCheck #22 e4 e e
\barNumberCheck #23 e4 e d
\barNumberCheck #24 f4 e d
\barNumberCheck #25 c2.
\barNumberCheck #26 c4 c c
\barNumberCheck #27 c4 c b
\barNumberCheck #28 d4 c b
\barNumberCheck #29 a2.
\barNumberCheck #30 a4 b c
\barNumberCheck #31 d4 e d
\barNumberCheck #32 f4 e d
\barNumberCheck #33 c2.
\barNumberCheck #34 c4 d e
\barNumberCheck #35 f4 g f
\barNumberCheck #36 f2 e16 f g ( f )
\tempo 4=200
\barNumberCheck #37 e b gis e b e, 2.
\barNumberCheck #38 e,,8 [ b'' e ] gis, [ b' e ] b, [ b' e ]
\barNumberCheck #39 e,,8 [ b'' e ] gis, [ b' e ] b, [ b' e ]
\barNumberCheck #40 a,8 [ c' e ] c, [ c' e ] b, [ c' e ]
\barNumberCheck #41 a,8 [ c' e ] g, [ b' e ] f, [ b' e ]
\barNumberCheck #42 e,,8 [ b'' e ] gis, [ b' e ] b, [ b' e ]
\barNumberCheck #43 e,,8 [ b'' e ] gis, [ b' e ] b, [ b' e ]
\barNumberCheck #44 a,8 [ c' e ] b, [ c' e ] c, [ c' e ]
\barNumberCheck #45 d,8 [ c' e ] \stemDown e, [ c' e ] f, [ c' e ]
\bar |:
\barNumberCheck #46 \ringer \times 2/3 { e,8 \startTextSpan [ e' b
] } \times 2/3 { gis8 [ e' b ] } \times 2/3 { b\3 [ e b ] }
\barNumberCheck #47 \times 2/3 { e,8 [ e' b ] } \times 2/3 { gis8 [
e' b ] } \times 2/3 { b\3 [ e b ] }
\barNumberCheck #48 \times 2/3 { a8 [ e' c ] } \times 2/3 { c\3 [ e
e\2 ] } \times 2/3 { b\3 [ e d ] }
\barNumberCheck #49 \times 2/3 { a8 [ e' c ] } \times 2/3 { g [ e' b
] } \times 2/3 { f [ e'
Re: bogus (and or missing) error messages
I'll see what I can do--- lucky for me my editor has unlimited undos. --hsm On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/2 Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com: Often I get the following pattern--- say I'm working on bar 59 and make a mistake. After the compilation process, the error message refers to bar 22! Given that I'm working in relative mode, I'm confused as to how code that was moments before correct is now in error? Another pattern I see frequently is the over printing of the 'Music engraving by LilyPond 2.13.7—www.lilypond.org' when it is mistakenly placed at the bottom of the first page because the second page has be wrongly compressed into the first page--- lots wrong, no errors--- why? --hsm p.s. all of this goes away when I find the actual error and correct it. Since by experience I know it is in the current bar, I'm just wondering where the 'NOISE' is coming from... If you attach a file that shows this problem we could try to reproduce it. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page break failure
Second point taken. I hope you realize that 2.13 has bug fixes for
2.12--- yes? Without those, there is no project... I don't suppose you
took a look? Did you notice that in included tablature? If you had,
then you would perhaps have sent me a different 'Most spacing bugs can
be reproduced...' Also note that I made no claim of 'BUG'. I am new at
this and would more likely expect the problem to have been caused by
something I did, not a bug.
--hsm
p.s. I am sufficiently new that I've no idea (although I can guess and
goggle) what you snippet does.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 09:57:00PM -0700, Hugh Myers wrote:
Pardon the length of the piece of code, but clearly demonstrates the
problem where as other pieces don't (got to be a page long for
instance...):
\version 2.13.7
I hope that you realize that 2.13.7 is an UNSTABLE, DEVELOPMENT
release. If you would like to participate in de-bugging, your
help would be appreciated, but please supply small,
easy-to-understand examples.
Most spacing bugs can be reproduced with something like
\relative c' {
\repeat unfold 128 { c4 c c c }
}
Cheers,
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Re: page break failure
Here is the shortest template I use:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
b c d
}
lower = {
gis, d e, 2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
\set Score.defaultBarType = |
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
Could you show me how to modify it according to the example you sent?
--hsm
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
Second point taken. I hope you realize that 2.13 has bug fixes for
2.12--- yes? Without those, there is no project... I don't suppose you
took a look? Did you notice that in included tablature? If you had,
then you would perhaps have sent me a different 'Most spacing bugs can
be reproduced...' Also note that I made no claim of 'BUG'. I am new at
this and would more likely expect the problem to have been caused by
something I did, not a bug.
--hsm
p.s. I am sufficiently new that I've no idea (although I can guess and
goggle) what you snippet does.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 09:57:00PM -0700, Hugh Myers wrote:
Pardon the length of the piece of code, but clearly demonstrates the
problem where as other pieces don't (got to be a page long for
instance...):
\version 2.13.7
I hope that you realize that 2.13.7 is an UNSTABLE, DEVELOPMENT
release. If you would like to participate in de-bugging, your
help would be appreciated, but please supply small,
easy-to-understand examples.
Most spacing bugs can be reproduced with something like
\relative c' {
\repeat unfold 128 { c4 c c c }
}
Cheers,
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Re: bogus (and or missing) error messages
After some length of time, I've determined the 'undo' method won't get me there! This will have to wait until it happens again. --hsm On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote: I'll see what I can do--- lucky for me my editor has unlimited undos. --hsm On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/2 Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com: Often I get the following pattern--- say I'm working on bar 59 and make a mistake. After the compilation process, the error message refers to bar 22! Given that I'm working in relative mode, I'm confused as to how code that was moments before correct is now in error? Another pattern I see frequently is the over printing of the 'Music engraving by LilyPond 2.13.7—www.lilypond.org' when it is mistakenly placed at the bottom of the first page because the second page has be wrongly compressed into the first page--- lots wrong, no errors--- why? --hsm p.s. all of this goes away when I find the actual error and correct it. Since by experience I know it is in the current bar, I'm just wondering where the 'NOISE' is coming from... If you attach a file that shows this problem we could try to reproduce it. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page break failure
Since the project can't be done in 2.12, what do you suggest? --hsm On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote: Hugh Myers schrieb: Second point taken. I hope you realize that 2.13 has bug fixes for 2.12--- yes? Yes, but 2.13.x is work in progress. There is a new layout engine which is still under improvement, as far as I know. So the layout may change considerably between 2.13.x and 2.13.y. 2.12.x is stable, and so it will be for 2.14.x. In the odd-numbered versions, everything can happen without warning. Without those, there is no project... There has to be the possibility to test the latest development version, so the 2.13.x versions are available for everyone, but as they are called development versions, you can't take anything for granted here... Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page break failure
Ah! That should be easy enough to work with--- I'll see what I can come up with.
--hsm
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote:
Hugh Myers schrieb:
Here is the shortest template I use:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
b c d
}
Use
upper = {
\repeat unfold 100 {
b c d
}
}
lower = {
gis, d e, 2.
}
and
lower = {
\repeat unfold 100 {
gis, d e, .
}
}
respectively.
Marc
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
\set Score.defaultBarType = |
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
Could you show me how to modify it according to the example you sent?
--hsm
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
Second point taken. I hope you realize that 2.13 has bug fixes for
2.12--- yes? Without those, there is no project... I don't suppose you
took a look? Did you notice that in included tablature? If you had,
then you would perhaps have sent me a different 'Most spacing bugs can
be reproduced...' Also note that I made no claim of 'BUG'. I am new at
this and would more likely expect the problem to have been caused by
something I did, not a bug.
--hsm
p.s. I am sufficiently new that I've no idea (although I can guess and
goggle) what you snippet does.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 09:57:00PM -0700, Hugh Myers wrote:
Pardon the length of the piece of code, but clearly demonstrates the
problem where as other pieces don't (got to be a page long for
instance...):
\version 2.13.7
I hope that you realize that 2.13.7 is an UNSTABLE, DEVELOPMENT
release. If you would like to participate in de-bugging, your
help would be appreciated, but please supply small,
easy-to-understand examples.
Most spacing bugs can be reproduced with something like
\relative c' {
\repeat unfold 128 { c4 c c c }
}
Cheers,
- Graham
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tablature fingering
Given the nature of the guitar fret board a note like a b may be
indicated in tablature in at least two ways. For instance in this
example:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
\times 2/3 { e,8 [ e' b ] } \times 2/3 { gis8 [ e' b ] } \times 2/3 {
b [ e b ] }
}
lower = {
s2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
However what is wanted in ascii tablature at least is:
e--0--0--0---|
B---0--0--0--|
G1--4|
D-2--|
A|
E|
So how do I get from here to there?
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Re: tablature fingering
Eluze, Thanks for the RTFM pointer--- I did but plead dementia :) --hsm On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:35 PM, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: Hugh Myers wrote: So how do I get from here to there? reading the Notation Reference (NR), in this case http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Default-tablatures Default-tablatures -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/tablature-fingering-tp2650p26567057.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
tupletBracket setting ignored
How do I force tupletBracket printing if \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t is ignored? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
breaking up joined triplets
In the following:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
\stemDown
\times 2/3 { e,8 e' b } \times 2/3 {gis8 e' b } \times 2/3 { b e b }
\times 2/3 { e,8 e' b } \times 2/3 {gis8 e' b } \times 2/3 { b e b }
}
lower = {
s2.
s2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
the triplets are connected by a bar--- how do I prevent this?
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Re: breaking up joined triplets
Thanks Alexander,
Looks like good information all around. I'll give it a go.
--hsm
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
In the following:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
\stemDown
\times 2/3 { e,8 e' b } \times 2/3 {gis8 e' b } \times 2/3 { b e b }
\times 2/3 { e,8 e' b } \times 2/3 {gis8 e' b } \times 2/3 { b e b }
}
[...]
the triplets are connected by a bar--- how do I prevent this?
Hi, Hugh,
it's nothing to do with the triplets themselves. In time 3/4, the whole
measure gets a common beam by default.
To change it, either use manual beams like
\times 2/3 { e,8[ e' b] } \times 2/3 {gis8[ e' b] } \times 2/3 { b[ e b] }
%% The [ and ] are the interesting parts.
or
\overrideBeamSettings #'Voice #'(3 . 4) #'end #'((* . (1 1 1))) . %%
Replace Voice by Staff or Score if you want the change to affect a larger
range.
By the way, you can also use
\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
then you don't need to write all the tuplets separated, but you can just say
\times 2/3 { e,8 e' b gis8 e' b b e b } .
Cheers,
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Re: text spanning
Perhaps I misunderstand your reply, but bar 14(where the problem is) has nothing to do with a rest. The text starts where (as you say) I wanted it to. That is not the problem. What is the problem is the continuation of the spanning text at bar 14--- here it starts outside in the margin instead of being aligned beneath a note. Is this behavior controllable? --hsm On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:02 AM, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: Hugh Myers wrote: the spanning text in bar 14 does not align with the first note of the bar as I had expected. Is there a way to control this? it starts exactly where you defined it (on the gis8) - i guess you want it to start with the rest: r4 \startTextSpan … -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/text-spanning-tp26538649p26540179.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text spanning
Lovely! Much thanks Nick--- also nice to have code to examine prior to
the point I need to roll my own :)
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Nick Payne
nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstand your reply, but bar 14(where the problem is)
has nothing to do with a rest. The text starts where (as you say) I
wanted it to. That is not the problem. What is the problem is the
continuation of the spanning text at bar 14--- here it starts outside
in the margin instead of being aligned beneath a note. Is this
behavior controllable?
See music function below that I wrote for creating text spanners with
arbitrary text. It allows you to specify as parameters:
The starting text
The outside staff priority
Whether the spanner is above or below the stave
The amount by which you want to adjust the left and right ends of the
spanner
The amount by which you want to adjust the left and right point at which the
spanner breaks when it crosses a line break
% usage e.g.:
% \tspan sul ponticello #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #5 #1
% g\startTextSpan c bes' ees, aes c, g c bes' ees, aes c,\stopTextSpan
tspan = #(define-music-function (parser location text osp dirn shorten
adjBreak adjEnd) (string? number? number? pair? number? number?) #{
% set osp to 999 if spanner is colliding with another element
% this will position the spanner outside all other elements
% can be normally be set to zero
\once \override TextSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #$osp
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text =
\markup\italic\small\bold { \concat { { $text } } }
\once \override TextSpanner #'font-shape = #'upright
% direction (either #UP or #DOWN)
\once \override TextSpanner #'direction = #$dirn
% setup dashed line and draw a bracket edge on RHS
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-period = #1.5
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #0.3
\once \override TextSpanner #'thickness = #0.8
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text = \markup {
\draw-line #(cons 0 (/ $dirn -1)) }
% set alignment of line with reference to left text
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'stencil-align-dir-y =
#CENTER
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'padding = #(car
$shorten)
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'padding = #(cdr
$shorten)
% allow adjustment of line end when it wraps to following stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'padding =
#$adjEnd
% adjust LH end of line when it wraps to following stave so that it
doesn't
% extend to the left of the notes on the stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'X = #$adjBreak
% optional override to remove text and bracket edge at line breaks
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'text = ##f
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'text = ##f
#})
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Re: text spanning
Is there a way to repeat the text automagically with each wrap?
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
Lovely! Much thanks Nick--- also nice to have code to examine prior to
the point I need to roll my own :)
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Nick Payne
nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstand your reply, but bar 14(where the problem is)
has nothing to do with a rest. The text starts where (as you say) I
wanted it to. That is not the problem. What is the problem is the
continuation of the spanning text at bar 14--- here it starts outside
in the margin instead of being aligned beneath a note. Is this
behavior controllable?
See music function below that I wrote for creating text spanners with
arbitrary text. It allows you to specify as parameters:
The starting text
The outside staff priority
Whether the spanner is above or below the stave
The amount by which you want to adjust the left and right ends of the
spanner
The amount by which you want to adjust the left and right point at which the
spanner breaks when it crosses a line break
% usage e.g.:
% \tspan sul ponticello #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #5 #1
% g\startTextSpan c bes' ees, aes c, g c bes' ees, aes c,\stopTextSpan
tspan = #(define-music-function (parser location text osp dirn shorten
adjBreak adjEnd) (string? number? number? pair? number? number?) #{
% set osp to 999 if spanner is colliding with another element
% this will position the spanner outside all other elements
% can be normally be set to zero
\once \override TextSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #$osp
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text =
\markup\italic\small\bold { \concat { { $text } } }
\once \override TextSpanner #'font-shape = #'upright
% direction (either #UP or #DOWN)
\once \override TextSpanner #'direction = #$dirn
% setup dashed line and draw a bracket edge on RHS
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-period = #1.5
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #0.3
\once \override TextSpanner #'thickness = #0.8
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text = \markup {
\draw-line #(cons 0 (/ $dirn -1)) }
% set alignment of line with reference to left text
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'stencil-align-dir-y =
#CENTER
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'padding = #(car
$shorten)
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'padding = #(cdr
$shorten)
% allow adjustment of line end when it wraps to following stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'padding =
#$adjEnd
% adjust LH end of line when it wraps to following stave so that it
doesn't
% extend to the left of the notes on the stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'X = #$adjBreak
% optional override to remove text and bracket edge at line breaks
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'text = ##f
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'text = ##f
#})
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Re: text spanning
I'll try both as needed... and let you know.
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
To get the text repeated on each line, you either comment out last two lines
in the function or change the override value to ##t, I can't remember which.
Nick
Hugh Myers wrote:
Is there a way to repeat the text automagically with each wrap?
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
Lovely! Much thanks Nick--- also nice to have code to examine prior to
the point I need to roll my own :)
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Nick Payne
nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstand your reply, but bar 14(where the problem is)
has nothing to do with a rest. The text starts where (as you say) I
wanted it to. That is not the problem. What is the problem is the
continuation of the spanning text at bar 14--- here it starts outside
in the margin instead of being aligned beneath a note. Is this
behavior controllable?
See music function below that I wrote for creating text spanners with
arbitrary text. It allows you to specify as parameters:
The starting text
The outside staff priority
Whether the spanner is above or below the stave
The amount by which you want to adjust the left and right ends of the
spanner
The amount by which you want to adjust the left and right point at which
the
spanner breaks when it crosses a line break
% usage e.g.:
% \tspan sul ponticello #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #5 #1
% g\startTextSpan c bes' ees, aes c, g c bes' ees, aes c,\stopTextSpan
tspan = #(define-music-function (parser location text osp dirn shorten
adjBreak adjEnd) (string? number? number? pair? number? number?) #{
% set osp to 999 if spanner is colliding with another element
% this will position the spanner outside all other elements
% can be normally be set to zero
\once \override TextSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #$osp
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text =
\markup\italic\small\bold { \concat { { $text } } }
\once \override TextSpanner #'font-shape = #'upright
% direction (either #UP or #DOWN)
\once \override TextSpanner #'direction = #$dirn
% setup dashed line and draw a bracket edge on RHS
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-period = #1.5
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #0.3
\once \override TextSpanner #'thickness = #0.8
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text = \markup {
\draw-line #(cons 0 (/ $dirn -1)) }
% set alignment of line with reference to left text
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left
#'stencil-align-dir-y =
#CENTER
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'padding = #(car
$shorten)
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'padding = #(cdr
$shorten)
% allow adjustment of line end when it wraps to following stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'padding =
#$adjEnd
% adjust LH end of line when it wraps to following stave so that it
doesn't
% extend to the left of the notes on the stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'X =
#$adjBreak
% optional override to remove text and bracket edge at line breaks
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'text = ##f
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'text = ##f
#})
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Re: text spanning
Worked fine on supplied example. Does not work at all well on the
piece I'm working on. This:
\version 2.13.7
tspan = #(define-music-function (parser location text osp dirn shorten
adjBreak adjEnd) (string? number? number? pair? number? number?) #{
% set osp to 999 if spanner is colliding with another element
% this will position the spanner outside all other elements
% can be normally be set to zero
\once \override TextSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = #$osp
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'text =
\markup\italic\small { \concat { { $text } } }
\once \override TextSpanner #'font-shape = #'upright
% direction (either #UP or #DOWN)
\once \override TextSpanner #'direction = #$dirn
% setup dashed line and draw a bracket edge on RHS
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-period = #1.5
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #0.3
\once \override TextSpanner #'thickness = #0.8
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text = \markup
{ \draw-line #(cons 0 (/ $dirn -1)) }
% set alignment of line with reference to left text
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left
#'stencil-align-dir-y = #CENTER
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left #'padding = #(car $shorten)
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'padding =
#(cdr $shorten)
% allow adjustment of line end when it wraps to following stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'padding
= #$adjEnd
% adjust LH end of line when it wraps to following stave so that it doesn't
% extend to the left of the notes on the stave
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'X = #$adjBreak
% optional override to remove text and bracket edge at line breaks
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'left-broken #'text = ##f
\once \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right-broken #'text = ##f
#})
chord = e b gis e b e,
upper = {
\tempo 4=90
\chord \chord \chord
\repeat volta 2 {
\tempo 4=200
b c d
d c b
c a b
\acciaccatura d8 \voiceOne c4 b a
b a g
a g f
}
\alternative {
{ r4 \times 2/3 { gis8 \startTextSpan b e } e,4 \times 2/3 { gis8
b e } e,2 }
{
\repeat volta 2 {
\bar :|.|:
{ e8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e]
a,8 [e'] c [e] b [e]
a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e']
}
}
}
e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e]
d8 [e] c [e] b [e]
c8 [e] a, [e'] b [e]
c8 [e] b [e] a, [e']
b8 [e] a, [e'] g, [e']
a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e']
e,4 gis b
\stopTextSpan
e b gis e b e, 2.
}
lower = {
s2.
gis, d e, 2.
e,2.
a2.
a2.
g2.
f2.
{ e2.~e2. }
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
}
{
\time 3/4
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\set Score.voltaSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 3 4)
\tspan let ring #0 #DOWN #'(0 . -0.5) #5 #1
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
Doesn't work. Missing text element and from the looks of things is
seriously confused by the presence of the tablature staff. Also the
location of the dashes on wrapped lines indicates that they will be in
the wrong place--- although this could be related to the missing text
element? Hints?
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
Commenting out the last two lines works just fine.
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll try both as needed... and let you know.
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net
wrote:
To get the text repeated on each line, you either comment out last two lines
in the function or change the override value to ##t, I can't remember which.
Nick
Hugh Myers wrote:
Is there a way to repeat the text automagically with each wrap?
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
Lovely! Much thanks Nick--- also nice to have code to examine prior to
the point I need to roll my own :)
--hsm
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Nick Payne
nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstand your reply, but bar 14(where the problem is)
has nothing to do with a rest. The text starts where (as you say) I
wanted it to. That is not the problem. What is the problem is the
continuation of the spanning text at bar 14--- here it starts outside
in the margin instead of being aligned beneath a note. Is this
behavior controllable?
See music function below that I wrote for creating text spanners with
arbitrary text. It allows you to specify as parameters:
The starting text
The outside staff priority
Whether the spanner is above or below the stave
Re: instantiating voices
I see nothing in the sample that allows for monophonic. As given I
only see polyphonic. The piece I'm working on is a mixture of both---
which obviously means I must be able to switch from one to the other.
Again, the sample is only polyphonic--- I must be missing something.
Hints?
--hsm
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Federico Bruni brunol...@gmx.com wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
On a related note (:;) this piece is a mixture of polyphony and
monophony. Is there an example of the two with tablature?
--hsm
If you use mainly polyphony, the following template should help you.
Actually, you can use it also for a mixture of polyphony and monophony, just
add a spacer note if you want a voice to be silent.
The advantage of esplicitly instantiate the voices for both staves is that
you can easily change some default behaviour of LilyPond that you may
dislike.
%% Begin template
\version 2.13.7
\header {
}
\paper {
}
upper= \relative c' {
}
lower= \relative c {
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff = guitar
\context Voice = upper guitar { \clef G_8 \voiceOne \upper }
\context Voice = lower guitar { \clef G_8 \voiceTwo \lower }
\new TabStaff = tab
\context TabVoice = upper tab { \clef moderntab \voiceOne \upper
}
\context TabVoice = lower tab { \clef moderntab \voiceTwo \lower
}
}
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Re: instantiating voices
Marc,
Thanks for the clarification. So adding tablature, the template now looks like:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
c4 d e f % polyphonic
g4 a b c % monophonic, see below
b4 g e c % polyphonic again
}
lower = {
c,2 g2 % polyphonic
s1 % a spacer disables this voice tamporarily
g2 c2 % and here we are again.
}
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
--hsm
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote:
Hugh Myers schrieb:
I see nothing in the sample that allows for monophonic. As given I
only see polyphonic. The piece I'm working on is a mixture of both---
which obviously means I must be able to switch from one to the other.
Again, the sample is only polyphonic--- I must be missing something.
Hints?
Federico pointed out that his sample will ease things if your piece is
*mostly* polyphonic.
If you use mainly polyphony, the following template should help you.
There is his explanation how to use the template.
Actually, you can use it also for a mixture of polyphony and monophony,
just
add a spacer note if you want a voice to be silent.
In the parts where monophony is needed, you can add spacers in the other
voice,
like this:
upper = \relative c' {
c4 d e f % polyphonic
g4 a b c % monophonic, see below
b4 g e c % polyphonic again
}
lower = \relative c, {
c2 g2 % polyphonic
s1 % a spacer disables this voice tamporarily
g2 c2 % and here we are again.
}
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text spanning
The following fails twice over; it leaves out the indicated text and
ignores \textSpannerDown:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
c4 d e \startTextSpan f % polyphonic
g4 a b c % monophonic, see below
b4 \stopTextSpan g e c % polyphonic again
}
lower = {
c,2 g2 % polyphonic
s1 % a spacer disables this voice tamporarily
g2 c2 % and here we are again.
}
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\textSpannerDown
\override TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = let ring
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
Where did I screw up?
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Re: text spanning
Much thanks Kieren,
This works:
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\override Staff.TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = let ring
\new Voice = 1 { \textSpannerDown \voiceOne \upper }
--hsm
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi Hugh,
The following fails twice over; it leaves out the indicated text and
ignores \textSpannerDown:
[…]
Where did I screw up?
You made the tweaks to the TextSpanner in the main Voice context:
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\textSpannerDown
\override TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = let ring
but then generated a TextSpanner in a new Voice context:
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
I suggest instead that you either put the tweak in the variable itself (so
it follows the generated TextSpanner around) or explicitly set the context
of the tweak to the entire staff:
\override Staff.TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = let ring
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: text spanning
Thanks, Alexander!
Now I have not just one but two solutions that work...
--hsm
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
The following fails twice over; it leaves out the indicated text and
ignores \textSpannerDown:
Hi.
Both \textSpannerDown and the override is applied to the /current/ Voice
context (which is the unnamed default Voice quietly instantiated inside the
Staff context). Thus, it is not regarded by the Voice = 1 context created
afterwards.
Moving the two commands into the Voice = 1 construct works as expected:
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
c4 d e \startTextSpan f % polyphonic
g4 a b c % monophonic, see below
b4 \stopTextSpan g e c % polyphonic again
}
lower = {
c,2 g2 % polyphonic
s1 % a spacer disables this voice tamporarily
g2 c2 % and here we are again.
}
customOverrides = {
\textSpannerDown
\override TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = let ring
}
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\new Voice = 1 { \customOverrides \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
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Re: confusion in text spanning
I think I was keeping track of individual bars that way (with braces
that is)--- you are right, newline would work just as well and few
characters='s less clutter. Regards \stop etc. I got it to work more
or less as you say. It is on another machine, I'll show you the
template in the next email.
--hsm
2009/11/26 Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org:
Since I normally program in lisp, I don't have any problems with
nested delimiters. Are you suggesting that excess (at least to your
eyes) braces are the problem or are you suggesting that the \stop is
at the wrong level?
I was wondering why you add braces here: { a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }.
Maybe if you try to put \stopTextSpan inside the last block, just
after the last note and before } it would change something. But I am
not sure.
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] \stopTextSpan }
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Re: confusion in text spanning
Here is the template I'm working with. The notes are nonsense, but the
problems are the ones I've run into and have had to solve...
\version 2.13.7
upper = {
c4 d e f \startTextSpan % polyphonic
\repeat volta 2 {
g4 a b c % monophonic, see below
}
\alternative {
{ b4 \stopTextSpan g e c } % polyphonic again
{ \repeat volta 2 {
\bar :|.|:
b'4 g e c
}
}
}
e g a b
}
lower = {
c,2 g2 % polyphonic
s1 % a spacer disables this voice tamporarily
g2 c2 % and here we are again.
g2 c2 % and here we are again.
c2 g2
}
ringer = {
\textSpannerDown
\override TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = let ring
}
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\new Voice = 1 { \ringer \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
This demonstrates mixed mono and poly with tab. It also has spanned text.
--hsm
2009/11/26 Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com:
I think I was keeping track of individual bars that way (with braces
that is)--- you are right, newline would work just as well and few
characters='s less clutter. Regards \stop etc. I got it to work more
or less as you say. It is on another machine, I'll show you the
template in the next email.
--hsm
2009/11/26 Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org:
Since I normally program in lisp, I don't have any problems with
nested delimiters. Are you suggesting that excess (at least to your
eyes) braces are the problem or are you suggesting that the \stop is
at the wrong level?
I was wondering why you add braces here: { a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }.
Maybe if you try to put \stopTextSpan inside the last block, just
after the last note and before } it would change something. But I am
not sure.
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] \stopTextSpan }
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text spanning
In the following:
\version 2.13.7
chord = e b gis e b e,
upper = {
\tempo 4=90
\chord \chord \chord
\repeat volta 2 {
\tempo 4=200
b c d
d c b
c a b
\acciaccatura d8 \voiceOne c4 b a
b a g
a g f
}
\alternative {
{ r4 \times 2/3 { gis8 \startTextSpan b e } e,4 \times 2/3 { gis8
b e } e,2 }
{
\repeat volta 2 {
\bar :|.|:
{ e8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e]
a,8 [e'] c [e] b [e]
a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e']
}
}
}
e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e]
d8 [e] c [e] b [e]
c8 [e] a, [e'] b [e]
c8 [e] b [e] a, [e']
b8 [e] a, [e'] g, [e']
a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e']
e,4 gis b
\stopTextSpan
e b gis e b e, 2.
}
lower = {
s2.
gis, d e, 2.
e,2.
a2.
a2.
g2.
f2.
{ e2.~e2. }
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
s2.
}
ringer = {
\textSpannerDown
\override TextSpanner #'(bound-details left text) = let ring
}
{
\time 3/4
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\set Score.voltaSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 3 4)
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\new Voice = 1 { \ringer \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\new TabVoice = t1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new TabVoice = t2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
}
}
the spanning text in bar 14 does not align with the first note of the
bar as I had expected. Is there a way to control this?
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I have two \tempo 4=200 which admittedly follow each other without intervening change. The second is not displayed. Why? How may this behavior be modified? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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I'm looking for an example of text spanning that does not invoke an extra staff--- is there such a thing? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
spanning text question
The following seems broken:
\version 2.13.7
\new Staff \relative c'' {
c1
\textSpannerDown
\override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #'(rail . )
c2
\startTextSpan
b c
\stopTextSpan
a
}
in that the word rail does not appear. Work around?
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The work around looks good. Yes 'without intervening change' was not clear. There are more than 20 bars between, but not enough to be on a separate page. I'm beginning to think the Lilypond needs a global to prevent 'favors'! --hsm On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote: Hugh Myers wrote: I have two \tempo 4=200 which admittedly follow each other without intervening change. The second is not displayed. Why? How may this behavior be modified? If without intervening change means at different locations, you probably can just make a hidden change in between: \tempo 4 = 200 ... \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \tempo 4 = 199 \unset Score.tempoHideNote % or \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##f, both should work ... \tempo 4 = 200 and everything should be printed fine. Spare it out for MIDI, of course. If without intervening change means at the same location, well, then you're in trouble. You can't have two MetronomeMarks at the same point in time, but you probably don't want this, too. If you really want something like this, you're better off using a custom markup. HTH, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \temp confusion
Opps! Spoke to soon. \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \tempo 4 = 199 \unset Score.tempoHideNote Doesn't work in the it prints the make work \tempo 4 = 199 without regard to the tempoHideNote. Hints? --hsm On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote: The work around looks good. Yes 'without intervening change' was not clear. There are more than 20 bars between, but not enough to be on a separate page. I'm beginning to think the Lilypond needs a global to prevent 'favors'! --hsm On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Alexander Kobel n...@a-kobel.de wrote: Hugh Myers wrote: I have two \tempo 4=200 which admittedly follow each other without intervening change. The second is not displayed. Why? How may this behavior be modified? If without intervening change means at different locations, you probably can just make a hidden change in between: \tempo 4 = 200 ... \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \tempo 4 = 199 \unset Score.tempoHideNote % or \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##f, both should work ... \tempo 4 = 200 and everything should be printed fine. Spare it out for MIDI, of course. If without intervening change means at the same location, well, then you're in trouble. You can't have two MetronomeMarks at the same point in time, but you probably don't want this, too. If you really want something like this, you're better off using a custom markup. HTH, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Thanks Neil, That did it! Is the \unset line needed or no? --hsmn On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Neil Puttock n.putt...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/25 Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com: Opps! Spoke to soon. \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \tempo 4 = 199 \unset Score.tempoHideNote Doesn't work in the it prints the make work \tempo 4 = 199 without regard to the tempoHideNote. Hints? Try \once \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t instead. The \set and \unset commands are in the same timestep, so the \set command is ignored. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
confusion in text spanning
This:
firstPolyRepeat = {
{ r4 \startTextSpan \times 2/3 {gis'8 b e } e,4 \times 2/3 {gis8
b e} e,2 } \\ {e,2.~e}
}
secondMono = {
{ e'8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] c [e] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }
}
thirdMono = {
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ d8 [e] c [e] b [e] }
{ c8 [e] a, [e'] b [e] }
{ c8 [e] b [e] a, [e'] }
{ b8 [e] a, [e'] g, [e'] }
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }
\stopTextSpan
\chordDottedHalf
}
gets me:
C:\Users\hsmyers\Desktop\Lily Projectslilypond.exe malaguena.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.13.7
Processing `malaguena.ly'
Parsing...
malaguena.ly:101:6: error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER
\stopTextSpan
malaguena.ly:78:0: error: errors found, ignoring music expression
{
error: failed files: malaguena.ly
So where do I place it? Bearing in mind that note-wise, both the start
and stop are correctly placed?
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Since the piece in question, Malaguena, already has mixed monophony
and polyphony, as well as tablature, adding voices to it doesn't seem
like a very good idea. Yes, I'm aware that ,\\ is shorthand for
voicing, but since it is shorthand, the visual complexity of the score
is kept to a readable level. Having to go backwards seems problematic
at best. Oh well, have to deal with what is, so I guess I will
painfully convert back to explicit voicing (again--- I was quite happy
when I was able to simplify it away the first time.)
--hsm
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote:
Le Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:39:08 -0700,
Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com a écrit :
So where do I place it? Bearing in mind that note-wise, both the start
and stop are correctly placed?
\stopTextSpan is unexpected because \startTextSpan is in another Voice !
There was a warning in the [old] doc about this :
(implicit temporary) Voices inside a \\ construct are all
separate from the Voices outside the construct.
This warning doesn't seem to appear in the last versions of the doc...
Use explicitly instantiated voices instead :
firstPolyRepeat = {
\new Voice = VoiceOne {
\voiceOne
r4 \startTextSpan \times 2/3 {gis'8 b e } e,4 \times 2/3 {gis8 b
e} e,2 }
\new Voice = VoiceTwo {
\voiceTwo
e,2.~e
}
\oneVoice
}
secondMono = \context Voice = VoiceOne {
{ e'8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] c [e] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }
}
thirdMono = \context Voice = VoiceOne {
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ d8 [e] c [e] b [e] }
{ c8 [e] a, [e'] b [e] }
{ c8 [e] b [e] a, [e'] }
{ b8 [e] a, [e'] g, [e'] }
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }
\stopTextSpan
\chordDottedHalf
}
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Re: confusion in text spanning
It would also help if the suggested change worked. In stead I still get:
C:\Users\hsmyers\Desktop\Lily Projectslilypond.exe malaguena.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.13.7
Processing `malaguena.ly'
Parsing...
malaguena.ly:56:1: error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER
\stopTextSpan
malaguena.ly:89:0: error: errors found, ignoring music expression
{
error: failed files: malaguena.ly
--hsm
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
Since the piece in question, Malaguena, already has mixed monophony
and polyphony, as well as tablature, adding voices to it doesn't seem
like a very good idea. Yes, I'm aware that ,\\ is shorthand for
voicing, but since it is shorthand, the visual complexity of the score
is kept to a readable level. Having to go backwards seems problematic
at best. Oh well, have to deal with what is, so I guess I will
painfully convert back to explicit voicing (again--- I was quite happy
when I was able to simplify it away the first time.)
--hsm
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote:
Le Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:39:08 -0700,
Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com a écrit :
So where do I place it? Bearing in mind that note-wise, both the start
and stop are correctly placed?
\stopTextSpan is unexpected because \startTextSpan is in another Voice !
There was a warning in the [old] doc about this :
(implicit temporary) Voices inside a \\ construct are all
separate from the Voices outside the construct.
This warning doesn't seem to appear in the last versions of the doc...
Use explicitly instantiated voices instead :
firstPolyRepeat = {
\new Voice = VoiceOne {
\voiceOne
r4 \startTextSpan \times 2/3 {gis'8 b e } e,4 \times 2/3 {gis8 b
e} e,2 }
\new Voice = VoiceTwo {
\voiceTwo
e,2.~e
}
\oneVoice
}
secondMono = \context Voice = VoiceOne {
{ e'8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] c [e] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }
}
thirdMono = \context Voice = VoiceOne {
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ d8 [e] c [e] b [e] }
{ c8 [e] a, [e'] b [e] }
{ c8 [e] b [e] a, [e'] }
{ b8 [e] a, [e'] g, [e'] }
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }
\stopTextSpan
\chordDottedHalf
}
Sincerely,
Xavier
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instantiating voices
The 2.10 manual says that:
\upper \\ \lower
is equivalent to
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
Which in simple situations seems true enough. However as soon as
tablature is added the above is broken; for example:
\version 2.13.7
firstPolyRepeatV = {
{ r4 \times 2/3 {gis 8 b e } e,4 \times 2/3 {gis8 b e} e,2 } \\ { e,2.~e }
% \new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne { r4 \times 2/3 {gis 8 b e } e,4
\times 2/3 {gis8 b e} e,2 } }
% \new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo { e,2.~e } }
}
{
\time 3/4
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\set Score.voltaSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 3 4)
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\firstPolyRepeatV
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\firstPolyRepeatV
}
}
The shorthand for \\ works as intended while the explicit
voicing fails. Work arounds?
--hsm
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Re: instantiating voices
On a related note (:;) this piece is a mixture of polyphony and
monophony. Is there an example of the two with tablature?
--hsm
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Carl,
I'll give it a try...
--hsm
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:
On 11/25/09 9:45 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
The 2.10 manual says that:
\upper \\ \lower
is equivalent to
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper }
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower }
Which in simple situations seems true enough. However as soon as
tablature is added the above is broken; for example:
\version 2.13.7
firstPolyRepeatV = {
{ r4 \times 2/3 {gis 8 b e } e,4 \times 2/3 {gis8 b e} e,2 } \\ { e,2.~e }
% \new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne { r4 \times 2/3 {gis 8 b e } e,4
\times 2/3 {gis8 b e} e,2 } }
% \new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo { e,2.~e } }
}
{
\time 3/4
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\set Score.voltaSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 3 4)
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\firstPolyRepeatV
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\firstPolyRepeatV
}
}
The shorthand for \\ works as intended while the explicit
voicing fails. Work arounds?
TabStaff needs TabVoice, not Voice, for explicit instantiation.
voiceOneMusic = { r4 \times 2/3 {gis 8 b e } e,4 \times 2/3 {gis8 b e} e,2 }
voiceTwoMusic = { e,2.~e }
...
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\new Voice = 1 {
\voiceOne \voiceOneMusic
}
\new Voice = 2 {
\voiceTwo \voiceTwoMusic
}
}
\new TabStaff \relative c'' {
\new TabVoice = t1 {
\voiceOne \voiceOneMusic
}
\new TabVoice = t2 {
\voiceTwo \voiceTwoMusic
}
}
HTH,
Carl
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Re: confusion in text spanning
Since I normally program in lisp, I don't have any problems with
nested delimiters. Are you suggesting that excess (at least to your
eyes) braces are the problem or are you suggesting that the \stop is
at the wrong level?
--hsm
2009/11/25 Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org:
It would also help if the suggested change worked. In stead I still get:
Maybe it is because you use curly braces { } everywhere. Try to put
the \stop... inside the { } block and not outside. But why using so
many braces?
Frédéric
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Re: warning not understood
Thanks Mats--- sorry I hit reply and not reply all. The suggested code
works just as desired and it is always nice to rid myself of warning
messages!! Thanks again.
--hsm
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Mats Bengtsson
mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote:
Please always keep the discussion on the mailing list, for the
benefit of yourself since you get access to the collected
expertise on the list and for the benefit of others who experience
similar problems. Feel free to quote my answer below if you wish.
You are right that the first of my two proposed workarounds does not work
with acciaccatura. However, the second one works well and gets rid of the
warning:
{ \acciaccatura d'8 \voiceOne c4 b a } \\ { a,2. }
/Mats
Hugh Myers wrote:
Mats,
The workaround does not give correct results:
{ \acciaccatura d'8 c4 b a } \\ { a,2. } engraves correctly
although with warning
\acciaccatura d'8 { c4 b a } \\ { a,2. } is incorrect in that
the slur extends to the third note
Or did I not grok the example correctly?
--hsm
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Mats Bengtsson
mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote:
You have hit one particular facet of the grace note handling
bugs/limitations in LilyPond, see
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=630q=grace
which contains a working workaround (see Comment 3 in the bug report).
/Mats
Hugh Myers wrote:
When processing this:
\version 2.13.7
\relative c' {
\time 3/4
{ \acciaccatura d'8 c4 b a } \\ { a,2. }
}
I get this warning message:
C:\Users\hsmyers\Desktop\Lily Projectslilypond.exe test4.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.13.7
Processing `test4.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
test4.ly:5:25: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
{ \acciaccatura d'8
c4 b a } \\ { a,2. }
Solving 1 page-breaking chunks...[1: 1 pages]
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `test4.ps'...
Converting to `./test4.pdf'...
It engraves correctly, but clearly there is something going on here
that I don't understand. Could someone enlighten me?
--hsm
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SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM
Sweden
Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463
Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260
Email: mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se
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Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463
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variables
Given: eMinor = e b gis e b e, I'd like to be able to do something like \eMinor' since I'm working in relative mode. Is this possible. Same thing for chord length, i.e. \eMinor2. etc. --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: variables
eMinor=\relative c { ... } does not allow either eMinor' or eMinor, etc.
--hsm
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Montag, 23. November 2009 schrieb Hugh Myers:
Given:
eMinor = e b gis e b e,
I'd like to be able to do something like \eMinor' since I'm working in
relative mode. Is this possible. Same thing for chord length, i.e.
\eMinor2. etc.
AFAIK:
eMinor=\relativ'e c { e b gis e b e, }
And then use \eMinor to paste it into your score.
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monophonic to polyphonic in with tab
The following doesn't work(the commented out line in the TabStaff):
\version 2.12.2
%
% test5.ly -- qd testbed for mixed notation score and tab.
%
eMinor = e b gis e b e,
firstBar = { \eMinor \eMinor \eMinor }
{
\time 3/4
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\firstBar
{ b c d } \\ { gis, d e, 2. }
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\firstBar
% { b c d } \\ { gis, d e, 2. }
}
}
What might? As the music in question transitions from monophonic to
polyphonic at will, I'd like to develop a general solution, but am
clueless at the moment.
--hsm
p.s. obviously I'm new to Lilypond so comments on anything else I'm
missing are certainly in order and welcome...
p.s.s. how do I get the first bar of the first measure numbered 1?
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warning not understood
When processing this:
\version 2.13.7
\relative c' {
\time 3/4
{ \acciaccatura d'8 c4 b a } \\ { a,2. }
}
I get this warning message:
C:\Users\hsmyers\Desktop\Lily Projectslilypond.exe test4.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.13.7
Processing `test4.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
test4.ly:5:25: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
{ \acciaccatura d'8
c4 b a } \\ { a,2. }
Solving 1 page-breaking chunks...[1: 1 pages]
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `test4.ps'...
Converting to `./test4.pdf'...
It engraves correctly, but clearly there is something going on here
that I don't understand. Could someone enlighten me?
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slurs and polyphony
Is it possible to slur the second voice in:
{ r4 \times 2/3 { gis'8 b e } e,4 } \\ { e,2. }
{ \times 2/3 { gis'8 b e } e,2 } \\ { e,2. }
I feel that it must be but have not stumbled apon the solution as yet.
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bar line
I'm looking for a symmetrical version of \bar |: which roughly speaking should produce colon, thin line, thick line, thin line, colon. Is there a way? --hsm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: bar line
Brett,
Much thanks, missed that combination. Now how do I get that to spit
out at the start of a second \alternative?
code:
\repeat volta 2 {
\firstPoly
}
\alternative {
{ \firstPolyRepeat }
{ \secondMono }
}
which doesn't seem to produce the correct bars, one at end of first
alternative and one at end of second? The first bar is just ':|' and
it is where I would expect the one I asked about. There is no bar at
end of second alternative, where I would expect a ':|' as being a sign
I'm correctly handling the repeat.
--hsm
p.s. also notice that it ignores any effort to shorten the volta bar?
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Brett Duncan bdd1...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
I'm looking for a symmetrical version of \bar |: which roughly
speaking should produce colon, thin line, thick line, thin line,
colon. Is there a way?
--hsm
Take a look at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/Bars#Bar-lines
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Re: bar line
Brett,
Thanks for the hint. The URL is where I got the notion for what I
wrote in the first place. In the source, firstPoly repeats, once with
firstPolyRepeat as an ending and once with secondMono as an ending.
That is what I want, but as you say not what I asked for. None of the
examples I've seen thus far(hardly exhaustive) match what I need, so
what I wrote was a guess based on what I saw. More hints welcome at
this point ;)
--hsm
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brett Duncan bdd1...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Brett,
Much thanks, missed that combination. Now how do I get that to spit
out at the start of a second \alternative?
code:
\repeat volta 2 {
\firstPoly
}
\alternative {
{ \firstPolyRepeat }
{ \secondMono }
}
which doesn't seem to produce the correct bars, one at end of first
alternative and one at end of second? The first bar is just ':|' and
it is where I would expect the one I asked about. There is no bar at
end of second alternative, where I would expect a ':|' as being a sign
I'm correctly handling the repeat.
I think your understanding of the code you've shown above may be somewhat
amiss. The music in \secondMono is not repeated, so of course it will not
have any repeat indications around it.
Have a look at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/Long-repeats#Normal-repeats
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Re: bar line
What I have/want is a phrase repeated twice with two alternate endings, then continuing on with the main line. Written out entire it would be phrase, ending A, phrase, ending B, main line. The part that repeats is the phrase, not the alternates. --hsm On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Brett Duncan bdd1...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hugh Myers wrote: Brett, Thanks for the hint. The URL is where I got the notion for what I wrote in the first place. In the source, firstPoly repeats, once with firstPolyRepeat as an ending and once with secondMono as an ending. That is what I want, but as you say not what I asked for. None of the examples I've seen thus far(hardly exhaustive) match what I need, so what I wrote was a guess based on what I saw. More hints welcome at this point ;) Well, it's hard to know exactly what to suggest since I'm not sure what you are after. The snippets and the part about Manual reports on that particular webpage don't help? Can you can describe in more detail what you want to achieve? Something like this? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: bar line
Here is the 'close--- but not quite ready for cigar time' code that
I've cobbled together:
\version 2.13.7
%
% malaguena.ly -- qd testbed for mixed notation score and tab.
%
\header {
title = Malaguena
subtitle = none
composer = Music by Unknown
}
eMinor = e b gis e b e,
firstMono = { \eMinor \eMinor \eMinor }
firstPoly = {
{ b c d } \\ { gis, d e, 2. }
{ d'4 c b } \\ { e,,2. }
{ c''4 a b} \\ { a,2. }
{ \acciaccatura d'8 c4 b a } \\ { a,2. }
{ b'4 a c } \\ { g,2. }
{ a'4 g f } \\ { f,2. }
}
firstPolyRepeat = {
{ r4 \times 2/3 {gis'8 b e } e,4 \times 2/3 {gis8 b e} e,2 }\\ {e,2.~e}
}
secondMono = {
{ e'8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] c [e] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }
}
thirdMono = {
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
}
{
\time 3/4
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\firstMono
\repeat volta 2 {
\firstPoly
}
\alternative {
{ \firstPolyRepeat }
{ \secondMono }
}
\thirdMono
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\firstMono
\repeat volta 2 {
\firstPoly
}
\alternative {
{ \firstPolyRepeat }
{ \secondMono }
}
\thirdMono
}
}
If you run this, you will see that the bar between the alternates is
single sided where it should be double sided. Likewise there is no bar
concluding the second alternative. Also a nit-pick, but the volta bars
are two long, should be one bar, not 'N' bars.
--hsm
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Hugh Myers hsmy...@gmail.com wrote:
What I have/want is a phrase repeated twice with two alternate
endings, then continuing on with the main line. Written out entire it
would be phrase, ending A, phrase, ending B, main line. The part that
repeats is the phrase, not the alternates.
--hsm
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Brett Duncan bdd1...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Brett,
Thanks for the hint. The URL is where I got the notion for what I
wrote in the first place. In the source, firstPoly repeats, once with
firstPolyRepeat as an ending and once with secondMono as an ending.
That is what I want, but as you say not what I asked for. None of the
examples I've seen thus far(hardly exhaustive) match what I need, so
what I wrote was a guess based on what I saw. More hints welcome at
this point ;)
Well, it's hard to know exactly what to suggest since I'm not sure what you
are after. The snippets and the part about Manual reports on that particular
webpage don't help?
Can you can describe in more detail what you want to achieve?
Something like this?
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Let's say that it is--- what would the different structure look like?
--hsm
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Brett Duncan bdd1...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Here is the 'close--- but not quite ready for cigar time' code that
I've cobbled together:
\version 2.13.7
%
% malaguena.ly -- qd testbed for mixed notation score and tab.
%
\header {
title = Malaguena
subtitle = none
composer = Music by Unknown
}
eMinor = e b gis e b e,
firstMono = { \eMinor \eMinor \eMinor }
firstPoly = {
{ b c d } \\ { gis, d e, 2. }
{ d'4 c b } \\ { e,,2. }
{ c''4 a b} \\ { a,2. }
{ \acciaccatura d'8 c4 b a } \\ { a,2. }
{ b'4 a c } \\ { g,2. }
{ a'4 g f } \\ { f,2. }
}
firstPolyRepeat = {
{ r4 \times 2/3 {gis'8 b e } e,4 \times 2/3 {gis8 b e} e,2 }\\
{e,2.~e}
}
secondMono = {
{ e'8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] c [e] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }
}
thirdMono = {
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
}
{
\time 3/4
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\bar
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\firstMono
\repeat volta 2 {
\firstPoly
}
\alternative {
{ \firstPolyRepeat }
{ \secondMono }
}
\thirdMono
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\firstMono
\repeat volta 2 {
\firstPoly
}
\alternative {
{ \firstPolyRepeat }
{ \secondMono }
}
\thirdMono
}
}
If you run this, you will see that the bar between the alternates is
single sided where it should be double sided. Likewise there is no bar
concluding the second alternative. Also a nit-pick, but the volta bars
are two long, should be one bar, not 'N' bars.
Is the section from bar 10 to bar 14 repeated or not? If not, then the
single sided repeat bar is correct. If bars 10-14 are repeated, then you'll
need a slightly different structure for the repeats.
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Re: bar line
Yes! That is exactly the ticket!! Much thanks Brett--- I fear it was
much harder understanding me than it was for you to solve the problem!
Thanks for both.
--hsm
p.s. I'll take apart the new code until I understand it...
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Brett Duncan bdd1...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
Hugh Myers wrote:
Let's say that it is--- what would the different structure look like?
Try this:
\version 2.13.7
%
% malaguena.ly -- qd testbed for mixed notation score and tab.
%
\header {
title = Malaguena
subtitle = none
composer = Music by Unknown
}
eMinor = e b gis e b e,
firstMono = { \eMinor \eMinor \eMinor }
firstPoly = {
{ b c d } \\ { gis, d e, 2. }
{ d'4 c b } \\ { e,,2. }
{ c''4 a b} \\ { a,2. }
{ \acciaccatura d'8 c4 b a } \\ { a,2. }
{ b'4 a c } \\ { g,2. }
{ a'4 g f } \\ { f,2. }
}
firstPolyRepeat = {
{ r4 \times 2/3 {gis'8 b e } e,4 \times 2/3 {gis8 b e} e,2 }\\ {e,2.~e}
}
secondMono = {
{ e'8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] c [e] b [e] }
{ a,8 [e'] g, [e'] f, [e'] }
}
thirdMono = {
{ e,8 [e'] gis, [e'] b [e] }
}
{
\time 3/4
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #all-bar-numbers-visible
\set Score.voltaSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 3 4)
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\firstMono
\repeat volta 2 {
\firstPoly
}
\alternative {
{ \firstPolyRepeat }
{ \repeat volta 2 { \bar :|.|:
\secondMono }}
}
\thirdMono
}
\new TabStaff \relative c' {
\firstMono
\repeat volta 2 {
\firstPoly
}
\alternative {
{ \firstPolyRepeat }
{ \repeat volta 2 { \bar :|.|:
\secondMono }}
}
\thirdMono
}
}
More like what you want?
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