Re: String number tuning
Bobber wrote Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:39 AM
Tried it but nothing happens:
{ \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 }
Read what the original responder advised:
In particular, be aware that modifications like \set
fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on
fingerings placed on notes which are not within a chord
construct. That is, if you want a single note fingering to go
left (or right or down), you'll have to put it into chord
braces -- b-14 rather than b4-1 (that trips up a lot of new
users when they start modifying fingering placements).
Even with this explicit warning you still
tripped up ;)
Trevor
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Re: String number tuning
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
Bobber wrote Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:39 AM
Tried it but nothing happens:
{ \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 }
Read what the original responder advised:
In particular, be aware that modifications like \set
fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings
placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if
you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down),
you'll have to put it into chord braces -- b-14 rather than b4-1
(that trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying
fingering placements).
Even with this explicit warning you still
tripped up ;)
So what does that tell us about the user-friendliness of this behavior?
Is there a really compelling reason why we want to have
fingeringOrientations ignored on non-chord notes?
If not, I don't see the educational value in tripping up lots of new
users. It wastes their time and resources, and it wastes the time and
resources of the people educating them about their mistake.
Better change the behavior to the expected one rather than explain the
unexpected one.
--
David Kastrup
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Re: String number tuning
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:00 AM
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
Bobber wrote Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:39 AM
Tried it but nothing happens:
{ \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 }
Read what the original responder advised:
In particular, be aware that modifications like \set
fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on
fingerings
placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That
is, if
you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down),
you'll have to put it into chord braces -- b-14 rather than
b4-1
(that trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying
fingering placements).
Even with this explicit warning you still
tripped up ;)
So what does that tell us about the user-friendliness of this
behavior?
Is there a really compelling reason why we want to have
fingeringOrientations ignored on non-chord notes?
No
If not, I don't see the educational value in tripping up lots of
new
users. It wastes their time and resources, and it wastes the time
and
resources of the people educating them about their mistake.
Quite
Better change the behavior to the expected one rather than explain
the
unexpected one.
We know all that already. Patches will be accepted.
Trevor
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Re: String number tuning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 04 February 2010 10:00:43 David Kastrup wrote: So what does that tell us about the user-friendliness of this behavior? Is there a really compelling reason why we want to have fingeringOrientations ignored on non-chord notes? If not, I don't see the educational value in tripping up lots of new users. It wastes their time and resources, and it wastes the time and resources of the people educating them about their mistake. Better change the behavior to the expected one rather than explain the unexpected one. How about a patch, then ;-) I guess the main reason why things are this way is that noone has yet provided a patch to fix this... Cheers, Reinhold -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktqkdgACgkQTqjEwhXvPN2GDQCgmoNlngSBihBXuUoCXtSupXCP OhoAn04UBaFWNCxRbgGKuvQYot7Svg7V =umgS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: String number tuning
Bob, Not only is it possible, but it is probable that doing so will increase your fun quotient with LilyPond. You'll be interested in http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering-instructions In particular, be aware that modifications like \set fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down), you'll have to put it into chord braces -- b-14 rather than b4-1 (that trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying fingering placements). Have fun, David Bobber wrote: I would like to have more control over where string numbers, left hand fingerings and right hand fingers are placed. I mean putting them below a note, to the side or above. Is this possible? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: String number tuning
Tried it but nothing happens:
% measure 2:
{ r8 c'8 e8 c8 e4 } \\
{ \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 }
David Stocker wrote:
Bob,
Not only is it possible, but it is probable that doing so will
increase your fun quotient with LilyPond.
You'll be interested in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering-instructions
In particular, be aware that modifications like \set
fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings
placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if
you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down), you'll
have to put it into chord braces -- b-14 rather than b4-1 (that
trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying fingering
placements).
Have fun,
David
Bobber wrote:
I would like to have more control over where string numbers, left
hand fingerings and right hand fingers are placed. I mean putting
them below a note, to the side or above. Is this possible?
--
Bob Wooldridge
Blog: http://kc0dxf.net/blog/
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Re: Re: String number tuning
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2 in the 2nd voice.
Nick
On Thu 04/02/10 2:09 PM , Bobber bob...@kc0dxf.net sent:
Tried it but nothing happens:
% measure 2:
{ r8 c'8 e8 c8 e4 } \
{ set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 }
David Stocker wrote:
Bob,
Not only is it possible, but it is probable that doing so will
increase your fun quotient with LilyPond.
You'll be interested in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering-instructions
In particular, be aware that modifications like set
fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings
placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if
you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down),
you'll
have to put it into chord braces -- 4 rather than b4-1 (that
trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying fingering
placements).
Have fun,
David
Bobber wrote:
I would like to have more control over where string numbers, left
hand fingerings and right hand fingers are placed. I mean putting
them below a note, to the side or above. Is this possible?
--
Bob Wooldridge
Blog: http://kc0dxf.net/blog/
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