Re: String number tuning
Bobber wrote Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:39 AM Tried it but nothing happens: { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 } Read what the original responder advised: In particular, be aware that modifications like \set fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down), you'll have to put it into chord braces -- b-14 rather than b4-1 (that trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying fingering placements). Even with this explicit warning you still tripped up ;) Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: String number tuning
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Bobber wrote Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:39 AM Tried it but nothing happens: { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 } Read what the original responder advised: In particular, be aware that modifications like \set fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down), you'll have to put it into chord braces -- b-14 rather than b4-1 (that trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying fingering placements). Even with this explicit warning you still tripped up ;) So what does that tell us about the user-friendliness of this behavior? Is there a really compelling reason why we want to have fingeringOrientations ignored on non-chord notes? If not, I don't see the educational value in tripping up lots of new users. It wastes their time and resources, and it wastes the time and resources of the people educating them about their mistake. Better change the behavior to the expected one rather than explain the unexpected one. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: String number tuning
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:00 AM Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Bobber wrote Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:39 AM Tried it but nothing happens: { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 } Read what the original responder advised: In particular, be aware that modifications like \set fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down), you'll have to put it into chord braces -- b-14 rather than b4-1 (that trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying fingering placements). Even with this explicit warning you still tripped up ;) So what does that tell us about the user-friendliness of this behavior? Is there a really compelling reason why we want to have fingeringOrientations ignored on non-chord notes? No If not, I don't see the educational value in tripping up lots of new users. It wastes their time and resources, and it wastes the time and resources of the people educating them about their mistake. Quite Better change the behavior to the expected one rather than explain the unexpected one. We know all that already. Patches will be accepted. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: String number tuning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 04 February 2010 10:00:43 David Kastrup wrote: So what does that tell us about the user-friendliness of this behavior? Is there a really compelling reason why we want to have fingeringOrientations ignored on non-chord notes? If not, I don't see the educational value in tripping up lots of new users. It wastes their time and resources, and it wastes the time and resources of the people educating them about their mistake. Better change the behavior to the expected one rather than explain the unexpected one. How about a patch, then ;-) I guess the main reason why things are this way is that noone has yet provided a patch to fix this... Cheers, Reinhold -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktqkdgACgkQTqjEwhXvPN2GDQCgmoNlngSBihBXuUoCXtSupXCP OhoAn04UBaFWNCxRbgGKuvQYot7Svg7V =umgS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
String number tuning
I would like to have more control over where string numbers, left hand fingerings and right hand fingers are placed. I mean putting them below a note, to the side or above. Is this possible? -- Bob Wooldridge Blog: http://kc0dxf.net/blog/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: String number tuning
Bob, Not only is it possible, but it is probable that doing so will increase your fun quotient with LilyPond. You'll be interested in http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering-instructions In particular, be aware that modifications like \set fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down), you'll have to put it into chord braces -- b-14 rather than b4-1 (that trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying fingering placements). Have fun, David Bobber wrote: I would like to have more control over where string numbers, left hand fingerings and right hand fingers are placed. I mean putting them below a note, to the side or above. Is this possible? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: String number tuning
Tried it but nothing happens: % measure 2: { r8 c'8 e8 c8 e4 } \\ { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 } David Stocker wrote: Bob, Not only is it possible, but it is probable that doing so will increase your fun quotient with LilyPond. You'll be interested in http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering-instructions In particular, be aware that modifications like \set fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down), you'll have to put it into chord braces -- b-14 rather than b4-1 (that trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying fingering placements). Have fun, David Bobber wrote: I would like to have more control over where string numbers, left hand fingerings and right hand fingers are placed. I mean putting them below a note, to the side or above. Is this possible? -- Bob Wooldridge Blog: http://kc0dxf.net/blog/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Re: String number tuning
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Try 2 in the 2nd voice. Nick On Thu 04/02/10 2:09 PM , Bobber bob...@kc0dxf.net sent: Tried it but nothing happens: % measure 2: { r8 c'8 e8 c8 e4 } \ { set fingeringOrientations = #'(right) c,2.-4 } David Stocker wrote: Bob, Not only is it possible, but it is probable that doing so will increase your fun quotient with LilyPond. You'll be interested in http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering-instructions In particular, be aware that modifications like set fingeringOrientations = '#(left) don't have an effect on fingerings placed on notes which are not within a chord construct. That is, if you want a single note fingering to go left (or right or down), you'll have to put it into chord braces -- 4 rather than b4-1 (that trips up a lot of new users when they start modifying fingering placements). Have fun, David Bobber wrote: I would like to have more control over where string numbers, left hand fingerings and right hand fingers are placed. I mean putting them below a note, to the side or above. Is this possible? -- Bob Wooldridge Blog: http://kc0dxf.net/blog/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user