Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords
Hi again, thx so far. Sorry for my English, I think I did not make myself clear enough, so I'll try to elaborate a little more. What I have: - I am setting notes and chords. - I changed the font for the chords to a custom one (real book style). - Notes (and related accidentals like flat and sharp) are set as usual. - Chord names (and options like 7, sus4 etc.) are set in the custom font. - Chord accidentals (like the b in A flat (Ab) or the # in F sharp (F#) are set with the symbols from Lilypond's font (i.e. accidentals.sharp and accidentals.flat from the Feta font). - Accidentals in chord options (like the b in 7/b9) are set using Feta. What I'd like to have: - The output of notes and related accidentals should remain as is. - Chord accidentals (i.e. for chord names like Ab as well as for chord. options like 7/#9) should be set using the b and # from the custom font. Possible options and problems: 1. I could make Lilypond use the custom font's symbols for flat and sharp by default like suggested (i.e. fiddling with the font directory). Disadvantage: Accidentals for regular notes would also be set with b and # from the custom font. 2. I could make Lilypond set chord options (7/b5 etc.) using the custom b and # by adding exceptions for all needed chords to sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions. Problem: All accidentals in chords (e.g. in Ab or F#) would still use the symbols from Feta. While option 1. is not viable (I do not want to lose Lilypond's accidentals for regular notes), option 2. partly solves the problem (for chord options), but then I would have two different types of accidentals when setting chords. So, what I would ideally like to have is a way of making Lilypond use b and # from a custom font, but exclusively in chord mode. I did quite some searching but did not come up with anything useful, so I already feared it might not be easy (or doable at all...). Any ideas? Thanks Matthias ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords
Am 16.02.2011 10:29, schrieb Matthias Hüsken: Hi again, thx so far. Sorry for my English, I think I did not make myself clear enough, so I'll try to elaborate a little more. What I have: - I am setting notes and chords. - I changed the font for the chords to a custom one (real book style). - Notes (and related accidentals like flat and sharp) are set as usual. - Chord names (and options like 7, sus4 etc.) are set in the custom font. - Chord accidentals (like the b in A flat (Ab) or the # in F sharp (F#) are set with the symbols from Lilypond's font (i.e. accidentals.sharp and accidentals.flat from the Feta font). - Accidentals in chord options (like the b in 7/b9) are set using Feta. What I'd like to have: - The output of notes and related accidentals should remain as is. - Chord accidentals (i.e. for chord names like Ab as well as for chord. options like 7/#9) should be set using the b and # from the custom font. Possible options and problems: 1. I could make Lilypond use the custom font's symbols for flat and sharp by default like suggested (i.e. fiddling with the font directory). Disadvantage: Accidentals for regular notes would also be set with b and # from the custom font. 2. I could make Lilypond set chord options (7/b5 etc.) using the custom b and # by adding exceptions for all needed chords to sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions. Problem: All accidentals in chords (e.g. in Ab or F#) would still use the symbols from Feta. While option 1. is not viable (I do not want to lose Lilypond's accidentals for regular notes), option 2. partly solves the problem (for chord options), but then I would have two different types of accidentals when setting chords. So, what I would ideally like to have is a way of making Lilypond use b and # from a custom font, but exclusively in chord mode. I did quite some searching but did not come up with anything useful, so I already feared it might not be easy (or doable at all...). I think you can achieve what you want by writing a scheme function similar to those defined in scm/chord-names.scm. See for example the definition of note-name-german-markup. There you find that accidentals are replaced by -es -eses -is or -isis, respectively. So you could copy most of this definition and place your custom glyphs in there. HTH Marc Any ideas? Thanks Matthias ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords
Hi everyone, I'm new to Lilypond and impressed with the ease of writing music and the quality of the output. For writing lead sheets, I changed Lilypond's standard font for printing chord names to a custom font. While this works perfectly, the style difference between the chord symbols and Lilypond's flat and sharp symbols is very obvious. Is there a way to make Lilypond use the custom font's b and # symbols instead of the internal ones? Thanks in advance, Matthias ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords
So, what I would ideally like to have is a way of making Lilypond use b and # from a custom font, but exclusively in chord mode. I did quite some searching but did not come up with anything useful, so I already feared it might not be easy (or doable at all...). I think you can achieve what you want by writing a scheme function similar to those defined in scm/chord-names.scm. See for example the definition of note-name-german-markup. There you find that accidentals are replaced by -es -eses -is or -isis, respectively. So you could copy most of this definition and place your custom glyphs in there. That's actually quite a good idea. Based on your idea, the following should do the trick: #(define my-alteration-glyph-name-alist '( ;; ordered for optimal performance. (0 . ) (-1/2 . #) (1/2 . b) )) #(define (my-alteration-text-accidental-markup alteration) (make-smaller-markup (make-raise-markup (if (= alteration FLAT) 0.3 0.6) (make-text-markup (assoc-get alteration my-alteration-glyph-name-alist ) My only problem is: How do I get this code to work, i.e. how do I get LilyPond to use this code in chord-mode? I assume I would need to somehow activate it in the ChordNames context, bit how does this actually work? Matthias -- Matthias Hüsken Phone: +49 202 439-3362 Fachbereich Mathematik Fax: +49 202 439-2912 Bergische Universität Gaußstraße 20 D - 42097 Wuppertal e-mail: matthias.hues...@math.uni-wuppertal.de ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords (solved)
Hi again,
thanks a lot for the pointers in the right direction, I finally got my problem
solved. It is based on the solution found here:
http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg02286.html
In case someone else stumbles upon this problem, here is my (shortened)
solution:
% correct markup for b and # (use symbols from current font...)
chordFlat = \markup { \hspace #0.2 \fontsize #-1 \raise #0.1 b }
chordSharp = \markup { \hspace #0.1 \fontsize #-1 \lower #0.3 # }
% define custom chords
mhPopChordsMusic =
{
c e g bes-\markup { \super 7 }
% ... define all other possible chords here...
}
% Add to existing exceptions
mhPopChordsAdd = #(append
(sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions mhPopChordsMusic #t)
ignatzekExceptions)
% fix accidentals with some Scheme (using the current font's symbols)
#(define (mh-chord-name-pop-markup pitch)
(let* ((alt (ly:pitch-alteration pitch)))
(make-line-markup
(list
(make-simple-markup (vector-ref #(C D E F G A B
(ly:pitch-notename pitch)))
;; If it's natural, do nothing
(if (= alt 0)
(make-line-markup (list empty-markup))
(if (= alt FLAT)
;; Otherwise, handle adding the flat symbol
(make-line-markup
(list
(make-hspace-markup 0.3) ;; WAS: 0.4
(make-small-markup (make-raise-markup 0.7
(make-text-markup b)))
))
;; or handle adding the sharp symbol
(make-line-markup
(list
(make-hspace-markup 0.1) ;; WAS: 0.2
(make-small-markup (make-raise-markup 0.7
(make-text-markup #)))
))
)
)
% % use like this:
%
% {
% popChords =
% {
% \set chordNameExceptions = #mhPopChordsAdd
% \set chordRootNamer = #mh-chord-name-pop-markup
% }
% }
%
% % or like this:
%
% \layout
% {
% \context
% {
% \Score
% chordNameExceptions = #mhPopChordsAdd
% chordRootNamer = #mh-chord-name-pop-markup
% }
% }
Thanks again!
Matthias
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Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords (solved)
2011/2/16 Matthias Hüsken matthias.hues...@math.uni-wuppertal.de: Hi again, thanks a lot for the pointers in the right direction, I finally got my problem solved. It is based on the solution found here: http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg02286.html In case someone else stumbles upon this problem, here is my (shortened) solution: [...] Hi, In case someone else stumbles upon this problem, it would be great if the solution was on the LSR : http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ Could you add this as a new snippet ? http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/html/contributing.html Thanks in advance. Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords
On 2/16/11 2:29 AM, Matthias Hüsken matthias.hues...@math.uni-wuppertal.de wrote: Hi again, thx so far. Sorry for my English, I think I did not make myself clear enough, so I'll try to elaborate a little more. Your English is great. I just think that none of us knew how to answer you. So, what I would ideally like to have is a way of making Lilypond use b and # from a custom font, but exclusively in chord mode. I think you mean exclusively in the ChordNames context, rather than exclusively in chord mode I did quite some searching but did not come up with anything useful, so I already feared it might not be easy (or doable at all...). I think you can redefine alteration-text-accidental-markup (it's found in scm/chord-name.scm. I don't think that you need to edit scm/chord-name.scm. A definition in your input file should redefine the existing procedure. HTH, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords(solved)
- Original Message - From: Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com To: Matthias Hüsken matthias.hues...@math.uni-wuppertal.de Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords(solved) 2011/2/16 Matthias Hüsken matthias.hues...@math.uni-wuppertal.de: Hi again, thanks a lot for the pointers in the right direction, I finally got my problem solved. It is based on the solution found here: http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg02286.html In case someone else stumbles upon this problem, here is my (shortened) solution: [...] Hi, In case someone else stumbles upon this problem, it would be great if the solution was on the LSR : http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ Could you add this as a new snippet ? http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/html/contributing.html Thanks in advance. Cheers, Xavier = http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=750 (thanks, Matthias) -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords
Hi everyone, I'm new to Lilypond and impressed with the ease of writing music and the quality of the output. For writing lead sheets, I changed Lilypond's standard font for printing chord names to a custom font. While this works perfectly, the style difference between the chord symbols and Lilypond's flat and sharp symbols is very obvious. Is there a way to make Lilypond use the custom font's b and # symbols instead of the internal ones? Thanks in advance, Matthias ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords
Matthias, )-Original Message- )From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org )[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On )Behalf Of Matthias Hüsken )Sent: 15 February 2011 15:53 )To: lilypond-user@gnu.org )Subject: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords ) )Hi everyone, ) )I'm new to Lilypond and impressed with the ease of writing music and the )quality of the output. ) )For writing lead sheets, I changed Lilypond's standard font for printing )chord names to a custom font. While this works perfectly, the style )difference between the chord symbols and Lilypond's flat and sharp )symbols is very obvious. Is there a way to make Lilypond use the custom )font's b and # )symbols instead of the internal ones? ) --- Not easily. The flat and sharp glyphs are 'hard coded' as it were. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/the-feta-font#accidental-glyphs While LilyPond can use other specially design fonts, for instance see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/gonville/ (we do mention this in our Documentation but all the installation instructions are here) This still has a hard coded glyph. It may be nearer to what you need though? You would need to replace the specific glyph for the sharp and flat manually within the 'fonts' directory that is installed with LilyPond - which is what the above link does for its own font. I don't know how easy that would be for you to do - it's certainly beyond my knowledge. Alternatively you could use the LilyPond glyph within the chordname by using the \flat and \sharp markup. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords
Thx for the answer! )For writing lead sheets, I changed Lilypond's standard font for printing )chord names to a custom font. While this works perfectly, the style )difference between the chord symbols and Lilypond's flat and sharp )symbols is very obvious. Is there a way to make Lilypond use the custom )font's b and # )symbols instead of the internal ones? ) --- Not easily. The flat and sharp glyphs are 'hard coded' as it were. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/the-feta-font#accident al-glyphs While LilyPond can use other specially design fonts, for instance see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/gonville/ (we do mention this in our Documentation but all the installation instructions are here) This still has a hard coded glyph. It may be nearer to what you need though? You would need to replace the specific glyph for the sharp and flat manually within the 'fonts' directory that is installed with LilyPond - which is what the above link does for its own font. I don't know how easy that would be for you to do - it's certainly beyond my knowledge. I already found this solution, but to me, it looks like overkill to simply replace two symbols. Especially as I need the changed symbols only in chordmode - for notes, LiliPond's are perfect. Alternatively you could use the LilyPond glyph within the chordname by using the \flat and \sharp markup. I'm not sure I understand - I do not want to use LilyPond's glyphs in chord names, but custom ones... For my purposes, it would just like to be able to redefine the sharp and flat symbols only for the chord mode, but I did not find any easy solution... and I do not know if this is even possible. Matthias -- Matthias Hüsken Phone: +49 202 439-3362 Fachbereich Mathematik Fax: +49 202 439-2912 Bergische Universität Gaußstraße 20 D - 42097 Wuppertal e-mail: matthias.hues...@math.uni-wuppertal.de ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords
Hello )-Original Message- )From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org )[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On )Behalf Of Matthias Hüsken )Sent: 15 February 2011 17:25 )To: lilypond-user@gnu.org )Subject: Re: Use custom font's flat (b) and sharp (#) symbols for chords ) )I already found this solution, but to me, it looks like overkill to simply )replace two symbols. Especially as I need the changed symbols only in )chordmode - for notes, LiliPond's are perfect. It may be possible to refer using a markup option to refer to a specific character within a font - what I mean by that is that we can print UTF characters by using a specific markup command along with the UTF number (so you can show accents and diacritics etc.). I am not really knowledgeable if you can refer to a non-standard character in a font by using this method, someone else may know - for example I know that the 'hash' character on a mac is 'alt-3' if you use the keyboard but there maybe a mapping reference we can use to tell LilyPond to print that character instead. That way you could then use that custom font character 'as if' you were typing it on the keyboard. I hope that makes sense to someone? ) ) Alternatively you could use the LilyPond glyph within the chordname by ) using the \flat and \sharp markup. ) )I'm not sure I understand - I do not want to use LilyPond's glyphs in chord )names, but custom ones... ) Well you said the chord font didn't match the lilypond ones, so I suggested replacing the chord font accidentals with Lilyponds' so the accidentals all look the same. :) regards James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
