Overcommit memory

2004-10-15 Thread Lufthansa Systems Infratec ZLINUX SYSPROG
Dear all,
 
there is a lot to read about z/VM and Linux performance. Also about memory over commit.
but I didn`t find real life performance data about zLinux  SAP or Oracle or Tomcat 
(nor other 
standard Application-Server) and how the perform while over commit memory.
A special point of interest would be:
- How many escon-channels do you use for swap under z/VM ?
- How much (in percent) do you over commit memory for a Linux-guest ?
- What`s about fibre-channel ? Is there a much better performance and is it possible 
to do much more memory over commit ?
- If yes, how much more ?
 
As I can say so far, 20% memory over commitment in general works. We us 4 
escon-channels to the z/VM swap-devices.
 
I would be happy, if someone can share some real life experience with us.
 
Regards,
 
Martin Lonkwitz
 
 

 

 

 

 

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Veritas NetBackup

2004-10-15 Thread Graeme Westerman NFU Mutual Insurance
We are running Upstream on our z/Linux (SLES8) with the server address
space running on z/OS and are very pleased
with the product.  We were in the same position running Veritas as our
standard Wintel backup utility and had to find an
alternative.

Regards,
 Graeme

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Re: SLES 9 online_update

2004-10-15 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
I don't have an answer for you; I'm just starting to get familiar with
YOU myself; but I'm curious where did you find the doc for
online_update  command line options?

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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:23 PM
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Subject: [Spam] SLES 9 online_update

Having problems with online_update -- probably mostly because I'm not
too
familiar with it.

molly:~ # online_update -gD -u
http://okdhs:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/download
Types of patches to be installed: security recommended patchlevel
Server URL: http://okdhs:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/download
Server Name:
Directory File:
Path 0: ./s390x/update/SUSE-SLES/9/patches
Path 1: ./s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/patches
ERROR(Media:file not found)[HTTP return code: 400 (URL:
http://okdhs:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/download/s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/pat
ches
/directory.3)]

molly:~ # online_update -c
Product 0 (primary product)
  Name:  SUSE SLES
  Version:  9
  Architecture: s390x
Product 1
  Name:  SUSE CORE
  Version:  9
  Architecture: s390x
Language: de
Directory:directory.3
molly:~ #

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Re: Veritas NetBackup

2004-10-15 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
We've been asking for the SLES8 client for more than 2 years. We have been
told the SLES8 client will be available soon. However, it requires the
master server to be version 5.1.
So now we will finally have a client and still cannot use it. Our server is
still a version 4 and has to remain so until since intel clients are
upgraded (that could be another year).



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Subject: Veritas NetBackup


We are looking to deploy our first Linux guest and are looking for a
file-level backup solution.  We would like to go with the Veritas NetBackup
Client on our SuSE SLES 8, but according to the information we found on
their website they don't have a supported client at this time (we are trying
to confirm this with their sales department and get a date when they will).

Can anyone confirm or deny this?  What other options are people using, and
how pleased are you with the products/support?

Thanks in advance for the help,


Justin Sollenberger

Operating Systems
DISA DECC Mechanicsburg

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Re: Cloning Linux systems problem

2004-10-15 Thread Carsten Otte
Hi Calos, Hi sebastian,

most probably this is caused by the fact that your carbon copy of the dasd
has a different devno. The device
number of the dasd is in the kernel parameter line, which zipl stores on
preparation of the boot volume.
You can use the following workaround:
- attach the copy to a running linux guest
- enable it
$bash echo add devno /proc/dasd/devices
(you should see some messages on the console indicating that the
dasd was detected)
- look at /proc/dasd/devices to figure what device name it has (in this
example: dasdx)
- mount it on /mnt
$bash mount /dev/dasdx1 /mnt
- look at /proc/mounts to verify that the dasd was mounted ok
- switch to the dasd as root device
$bash chroot /mnt
- edit the parmfile (most probably in /boot/parmfile or similar, maybe in
/etc/zipl.conf - I am not sure where
  SuSE puts their kernel parameters)
change the dasd=devno parameter to fit your new devno
- run zipl to prepare the volume for boot
- logout (to get out of the chroot jail) and log in again
- unmount the dasd
$bash umount /mnt
- disable the dasd
$bash echo set devno off /proc/dasd/devices
- detach the dasd
- attach it back to the guest that should run it
- ipl

just FYI: with sles9 you can edit the parameters at ipl time, that makes
things much easier

with kind regards
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From: Sebastian Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 6:51 PM
Subject: Cloning Linux systems problem


We have just installed SLES8 and require another 5 systems so using the
Redbook SLES8 under zVM as our guide we followed the instructions for
cloning. This suggests to use DDR to copy the disks which we dutifully
did.
However upon booting the new system the zVM user goes into a CP wait state
after the initial boot as it cannot read the partition table (dasda1.) As
this is running under FLEX we also tried using a ckdbackup piped into a
ckdrestore as its a lot quicker than DDR and the same problem occurred.
Have
we missed something or is there another way apart from having to install
each zLinux image one at a time?

Many thanks in advance...

MfG / Best Regards

Sebastian

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Re: SLES 9 online_update

2004-10-15 Thread Little, Chris
online_update --help

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From: Romanowski, John (OFT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 7:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SLES 9 online_update


I don't have an answer for you; I'm just starting to get familiar with
YOU myself; but I'm curious where did you find the doc for
online_update  command line options?

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Little, Chris
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Spam] SLES 9 online_update

Having problems with online_update -- probably mostly because I'm not
too
familiar with it.

molly:~ # online_update -gD -u
http://okdhs:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/download
Types of patches to be installed: security recommended patchlevel
Server URL: http://okdhs:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/download
Server Name:
Directory File:
Path 0: ./s390x/update/SUSE-SLES/9/patches
Path 1: ./s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/patches
ERROR(Media:file not found)[HTTP return code: 400 (URL:
http://okdhs:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/download/s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/pat
ches
/directory.3)]

molly:~ # online_update -c
Product 0 (primary product)
  Name:  SUSE SLES
  Version:  9
  Architecture: s390x
Product 1
  Name:  SUSE CORE
  Version:  9
  Architecture: s390x
Language: de
Directory:directory.3
molly:~ #

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Re: SLES 8 YAST Online Update

2004-10-15 Thread Post, Mark K
This is probably because you don't have a proxy server defined for the GUI
environment.  I have to do that so infrequently that I can never remember
just how to do it.  So, I wind up playing around with a number of different
things before it will work.  Then I forget it until the next time.


Mark Post

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Subject: SLES 8 YAST Online Update


YAST Online Update GUI does not work when i try to log into the sdb
database, but it works when i use yast in SSH. Does anyone have troubles
like this. What is up with that. -Cameron

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Overcommit memory

2004-10-15 Thread Barton Robinson
First, use Ficon.  performance is SIGNIFICANTLY better than
Escon.  Channels for VM Paging (vm does paging, not swapping)
is rarely an issue. Escon channels to me are a huge inhibitor
to LInux on z/VM performance.

There has been no published research for SAP performance
under Linux under z/VM.  There IS however work on a redbook
for Oracle under linux under z/VM that will hopefully be
published or at least partially distributed. I've been working
on the performance part of that. I've looked at some SAP
data but i think some extended research is needed.

The overcommit question is not easy, there are several issues to
address first.

Do your servers drop from queue? This allows VM storage management
to page servers out and is critical.

Do you use virtual disk for linux swap? and have minimized
the virtual machine size? This reduces overall requirements.

Can you determine what percent of time your servers are
active? if all your servers are active at the same time,
you need storage to satisfy all of the active requirements.


There was a z/VM performance class scheduled last month
in Munich. Another class has not as of yet been scheduled.
Check www.velocitysoftware.com for z/VM performance
education schedules.

From: Lufthansa Systems Infratec ZLINUX SYSPROG [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear all,

there is a lot to read about z/VM and Linux performance.  Also
about memory over commit.  but I didn`t find real life
performance data about zLinux  SAP or Oracle or Tomcat (nor
other standard Application-Server) and how the perform while
over commit memory.

A special point of interest would be:
- How many escon-channels do you use for swap under z/VM ?
- How much (in percent) do you over commit memory for a Linux-guest ?
- What`s about fibre-channel ? Is there a much better performance and is
it possible to do much more memory over commit ?

- If yes, how much more ?

As I can say so far, 20% memory over commitment in general
works. We us 4 escon-channels to the z/VM swap-devices.

I would be happy, if someone can share some real life
experience with us.

Regards,

Martin Lonkwitz

Martin Lonkwitz Lufthansa Systems GmbH

UNIX Systems EngineerFRA AR/ISS

Systemplanung,-betrieb   Am Weiher 24

und Entwicklung  D-65451 Kelsterbach

 Telefon:(069) 696-72456

Externer Servicepartner der Firma

networker, projektberatung GmbH

Am Kaltenborn 1

61462 K=F6nigstein







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Linux on z/Series and Anti-virus software

2004-10-15 Thread James Melin
What are the current leading anti-virus software vendors that have a
product that runs native under linux on z/Series?

I've seen options that require me to NFS mount my disk, and other things.
I've seen a few anti-virus probrams that run native, but our management
doesn't want a 'small fish' as it were. They are looking for an AV vendor
that has some legs... is going to be here in 5 years. That sort of thing.

Recommendations?

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Friday funny.

2004-10-15 Thread McKown, John
I hadn't heard this before, but our storage admin came up with:

Point and click means that you forgot to load the gun.


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Re: Overcommit memory

2004-10-15 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
For what's it's worth, we aren't currently running SAP or Oracle but we do
run several applications with tomcat. 
We were able to cut down the virtual storage required by the tomcat guests
dramatically by using 4 VDISK's for swap.
For example, one vendor stated they needed 1 GIG of memory. But we now run
their product with 96Meg.  
The performance Redbook was a big help. Don't just look at overcommit'ing
memory. Look at using VDISK's to cut back on real memory usage.


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Subject: Overcommit memory


Dear all,
 
there is a lot to read about z/VM and Linux performance. Also about memory
over commit.
but I didn`t find real life performance data about zLinux  SAP or Oracle
or Tomcat (nor other 
standard Application-Server) and how the perform while over commit memory.
A special point of interest would be:
- How many escon-channels do you use for swap under z/VM ?
- How much (in percent) do you over commit memory for a Linux-guest ?
- What`s about fibre-channel ? Is there a much better performance and is it
possible to do much more memory over commit ?
- If yes, how much more ?
 
As I can say so far, 20% memory over commitment in general works. We us 4
escon-channels to the z/VM swap-devices.
 
I would be happy, if someone can share some real life experience with us.
 
Regards,
 
Martin Lonkwitz
 
 

 

 

 

 

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UNIX Systems EngineerFRA AR/ISS

Systemplanung,-betrieb   Am Weiher 24

und Entwicklung  D-65451 Kelsterbach

 Telefon:(069) 696-72456

Externer Servicepartner der Firma 

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Re: Friday funny.

2004-10-15 Thread Ward, Garry
The one I heard was:

Smith  Wesson, the original point and click interface 

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I hadn't heard this before, but our storage admin came up with:

Point and click means that you forgot to load the gun.


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Re: Linux on z/Series and Anti-virus software

2004-10-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 10/15/2004 at 10:17 EST, James Melin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What are the current leading anti-virus software vendors that have a
 product that runs native under linux on z/Series?

 I've seen options that require me to NFS mount my disk, and other
things.
 I've seen a few anti-virus probrams that run native, but our management
 doesn't want a 'small fish' as it were. They are looking for an AV
vendor
 that has some legs... is going to be here in 5 years. That sort of
thing.

 Recommendations?

Try http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/os/linux/apps/sec.html.

This site is worth bookmarking.

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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Re: Friday funny.

2004-10-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
And if it did not click you can drag  drop the victim.

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Re: VDSK, Swapgen et al

2004-10-15 Thread Michael MacIsaac
James,

 Module  Size  Used byTainted: P
 qeth  153756   2
 qdio   33652   2  [qeth]
 ipv6  246300  -1  [qeth]
 lvm-mod69676   0  (autoclean)
 dasd_eckd_mod  56548   4
 dasd_mod   47680   5  [dasd_eckd_mod]
...
 exec swapgen 300 256000 (reuse)
 DIAG swap disk defined at virtual address 300

I believe you need to load the dasd_diag_mod.o module too.
We wrote it up in sec 6.6.2, p.121 of the Domino redbook:
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247021.html?Open
(see especially the section Making the swap spaces permanent)

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Re: VDSK, Swapgen et al

2004-10-15 Thread Ronald Van Der Laan
Jim,

Please check if your initrd contains the dasd_diag_mod kernel module.
You also seem to lack the dasd_fba_mod module, otherwise it would have
loaded instead.

Please try:
  insmod dasd_diag_mod

Ronald van der Laan

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Re: [Spam] Re: SLES 8 YAST Online Update

2004-10-15 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
YOU uses wget and wget can be told in /etc/wgetrc where the proxy server
is.
Edit /wtc/wgetrc and add a line that reads
 http_proxy = http://your.proxy:nn
Example: http://10.5.5.121:8080  for a proxy server listening on port
8080

You can also add proxy authentication lines (if needed):
proxy_user = userid
proxy_passwd = password

Until it's working well, you might find it helpful to also add lines
that tell wget to create a log file and run in debug mode; the log gives
you a clue what's going wrong (and right).
logfile = /root/wget.log
debug = on

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Subject: [Spam] Re: SLES 8 YAST Online Update

This is probably because you don't have a proxy server defined for the
GUI
environment.  I have to do that so infrequently that I can never
remember
just how to do it.  So, I wind up playing around with a number of
different
things before it will work.  Then I forget it until the next time.


Mark Post

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Subject: SLES 8 YAST Online Update


YAST Online Update GUI does not work when i try to log into the sdb
database, but it works when i use yast in SSH. Does anyone have troubles
like this. What is up with that. -Cameron

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Re: Linux on z/Series and Anti-virus software

2004-10-15 Thread Brandon Darbro
James Melin wrote:
What are the current leading anti-virus software vendors that have a
product that runs native under linux on z/Series?
I've seen options that require me to NFS mount my disk, and other things.
I've seen a few anti-virus probrams that run native, but our management
doesn't want a 'small fish' as it were. They are looking for an AV vendor
that has some legs... is going to be here in 5 years. That sort of thing.
Recommendations?

TrendMicro Server Protect.
It surpassed our requirements and wishes.
*Brandon
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Re: Linux on z/Series and Anti-virus software

2004-10-15 Thread Adam Thornton
On Oct 15, 2004, at 9:28 AM, Brandon Darbro wrote:
James Melin wrote:
What are the current leading anti-virus software vendors that have a
product that runs native under linux on z/Series?
I've seen options that require me to NFS mount my disk, and other
things.
I've seen a few anti-virus probrams that run native, but our
management
doesn't want a 'small fish' as it were. They are looking for an AV
vendor
that has some legs... is going to be here in 5 years. That sort of
thing.
Recommendations?

TrendMicro Server Protect.
It surpassed our requirements and wishes.

Your management probably isn't going to be interested in ClamAV, since
there isn't a vendor per se, since it's an Open Source project--but
hey, you'd have the source code.  And, uh, I happen to know you could
buy third-party support.  It works quite well on Debian, and I assume
it works fine on the other distros.  They seem good about timely
database updates.  http://www.clamav.net.
However, virus scanning is by its nature CPU intensive, so using your
S/390 to do it may not be the right approach; of course that depends on
how much CPU you have, how much scanning you need to do, and how badly
you don't want to use the network to hand the workload to some other
machine.
Adam
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Re: Linux on z/Series and Anti-virus software

2004-10-15 Thread Rozonkiewiecz, Mitchell P
This doesn't list the current Computer Associates offerings, including
AntiVirus for Linux/390

You can find the AV details here

http://ca.com/technologies/subsolution.jsp?id=4874

 
Mitch Rozonkiewiecz
Development, CA


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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: Linux on z/Series and Anti-virus software

On Friday, 10/15/2004 at 10:17 EST, James Melin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What are the current leading anti-virus software vendors that have a
 product that runs native under linux on z/Series?

 I've seen options that require me to NFS mount my disk, and other
things.
 I've seen a few anti-virus probrams that run native, but our
management
 doesn't want a 'small fish' as it were. They are looking for an AV
vendor
 that has some legs... is going to be here in 5 years. That sort of
thing.

 Recommendations?

Try http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/os/linux/apps/sec.html.

This site is worth bookmarking.

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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Problem pinging DNS from SuSE SLES8 under z/VM via CTC

2004-10-15 Thread John Kaba
Hello,

 I am getting the following messages when trying to configure my network
prior to install.   It does not seem to be getting out to our network to
find either the DNS or my ftp server running on my PC.



=   =

==-Welcome to SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 for zSeries  -==

=   =


Please select the type of your network device:

0) no network

1) OSA Token Ring

2) OSA Ethernet

3) OSA-Gigabit Ethernet or OSA-Express Fast Ethernet

4) Channel To Channel

5) Escon

6) IUCV

8) Hipersockets

9) Show subchannels and detected devices

Enter your choice (0-9):

4


List of first 10 CTC Channels that were detected:

Dev. Channel type  CHPIDS

0808 CTC or LCSff00

0809 CTC or LCSff00

Device address for read channel (0808):

0808

Device address for write channel (0809):

0809

Select protocol number for CTC:

0) Compatibility mode, also for non-Linux peers other

   than OS/390 and z/OS (this is the default mode)

1) Extended mode

3) Compatibility mode with OS/390 and z/OS

Enter your choice (0):

0

Writing 'ctc0,0x0808,0x0809,0,0' to /proc/chandev

Starting ctc driver:

CTC driver Version: 1.55.10.2 with CHANDEV support initialized

ctc0: read: ch 0808 (irq 0001), write: ch 0809 (irq 0002) proto: 0

ctc46576   0 (unused)

fsm 1888   0 ctcÙ

ctc0 detected.

ctc0 is available, continuing with network setup.


Please enter your full host name, e.g. 'linux.example.com'
(linux.example.com):
linuxvm.fhsu.edu

Please enter your IP address, e.g. '192.168.0.1' (192.168.0.1):

209.114.111.18

Please enter the IP address of your peer, e.g. '192.168.0.254'
(192.168.0.254):
209.114.111.17

Please enter the IP address of the DNS server or 'none' for no DNS (none):

209.114.111.1

Please enter the DNS search domain, e.g. 'example.com' (fhsu.edu):

fhsu.edu

Please enter the MTU (Maximum Transfer Unit),

leave blank for default: (1500):


Configuration for ctc0 will be:

Full host name   : linuxvm.fhsu.edu

IP address   : 209.114.111.18

Peer IP address  : 209.114.111.17

DNS IP address   : 209.114.111.1

DNS search domain: fhsu.edu

MTU size : 1500

Is this correct (Yes/No) ?

yes


For security reasons you have to set an temporary installation

system password for the user root.

You'll be asked for it only when you telnet into this installation

system to limit the access to it and it will be cleared as soon

as you shut down or reset the installation system


Please enter the temporary installation password:

X

Temporary installation password set.

ifconfig ctc0 209.114.111.18 pointopoint 209.114.111.17 mtu 1500

/sbin/ifconfig ctc0 :

ctc0  Link encap:Serial Line IP

  inet addr:209.114.111.18  P-t-P:209.114.111.17
Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1

  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0

  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0

  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100

  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)


Trying to ping my IP address:

PING 209.114.111.18 (209.114.111.18) from 209.114.111.18 : 56(84) bytes of
data.
64 bytes from 209.114.111.18: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.062 ms

64 bytes from 209.114.111.18: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.055 ms

64 bytes from 209.114.111.18: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.057 ms


--- 209.114.111.18 ping statistics ---

3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% loss, time 1998ms

rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.055/0.058/0.062/0.003 ms

Waiting 6 seconds for connection with remote side.

Waiting 3 seconds for connection with remote side.

Waiting 4 seconds for connection with remote side.

Waiting 5 seconds for connection with remote side.

Waiting 4 seconds for connection with remote side.

Waiting 4 seconds for connection with remote side.

Waiting 3 seconds for connection with remote side.

ctc0: connected with remote side

Trying to ping the IP address of the peer:

PING 209.114.111.17 (209.114.111.17) from 209.114.111.18 : 56(84) bytes of
data.
64 bytes from 209.114.111.17: icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=0.408 ms

64 bytes from 209.114.111.17: icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=0.393 ms

64 bytes from 209.114.111.17: icmp_seq=4 ttl=60 time=0.424 ms


--- 209.114.111.17 ping statistics ---

4 packets transmitted, 3 received, 25% loss, time 3016ms

rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.393/0.408/0.424/0.020 ms

Peer seems to respond to our pings, continuing.

Trying to ping the IP address of the DNS Server:

PING 209.114.111.1 (209.114.111.1) from 209.114.111.18 : 56(84) bytes of
data.

--- 209.114.111.1 ping statistics ---

10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% loss, time 9016ms


Warning: The DNS address 209.114.111.1 did not ping.

Diagnostics:

traceroute to the DNS IP with max ttl 10, waittime 1, one probe per hop:

traceroute to 209.114.111.1 (209.114.111.1), 10 hops max, 40 byte packets


Re: Problem pinging DNS from SuSE SLES8 under z/VM via CTC

2004-10-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
Assuming you *can* ping the .1 address from a CMS userid on z/VM ...
I am missing the PROXYARP in the TCPIP PROFILE (which is only enabled by
default in the latest versions).
Rob
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External MAC Address on guests...

2004-10-15 Thread Derric Goodwin
Anyone here have any problems with the fact that multiple guests sitting
on the same LPAR running through VM and using the same adapter all share
(to the outside world) the same MAC address?

Seems like this potentially can cause a lot of problems.

Certainly for things like reverse look up etc...

Any thoughts?


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Re: External MAC Address on guests...

2004-10-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:00:42 -0500, Derric Goodwin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone here have any problems with the fact that multiple guests sitting
 on the same LPAR running through VM and using the same adapter all share
 (to the outside world) the same MAC address?

 Seems like this potentially can cause a lot of problems.

In practice the OSA does a nice job in offloading that work from the guests.

 Certainly for things like reverse look up etc...

What applications would be doing reverse lookup of MAC address?  One
thing I can imagine is when you run the DHCP server on the LAN and
want the guests to use that. This will not work with z/VM 4.4 and you
need to run the DHCP server in the box on the Guest LAN or VSWITCH to
serve the Linux guests. But that's not really a problem because
running DHCP on behalf of servers is a bit different than running it
on the LAN for your workstations.

But things are changing in this area.

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Re: External MAC Address on guests...

2004-10-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 10/15/2004 at 04:00 EST, Derric Goodwin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone here have any problems with the fact that multiple guests sitting
 on the same LPAR running through VM and using the same adapter all share
 (to the outside world) the same MAC address?

 Seems like this potentially can cause a lot of problems.

 Certainly for things like reverse look up etc...

 Any thoughts?

In April we announced a Statement of Direction for z/VM 5.1 and
OSA-Express to provide a layer 2 (MAC) capability in the hardware and
software.  On October 7 we announced the fulfillment of that SoD with new
functions on the z890 and z990.  When the OSA support becomes available
later this month, and you use z/VM 5.1 virtual switch, the OSA will make
each virtual MAC visible to the network.

It is for this reason that I have been preaching that every z/VM 4.4 and
5.1 system have a unique VMLAN MACPREFIX value in SYSTEM CONFIG.  This
will prevent duplicate MACs on the net.

You will have to explicitly configure this support, including the use of a
new Linux OSA driver, also planned to be released this month.

Existing Layer 3 (IP) functions will remain.  Layer 2 support will not
be available for z/VM 4.4 or for z800/z900.

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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