RHEL 2.4 on Z9
Do we have a RHEL 2.4 available for my Z9? Is anyone using it today? Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Changing local password after NIS on SuSE V8
I have several SuSE 8 systems yet to convert to SuSE 10. The V8 systems all use NIS logons. For my local ROOT account, I cannot change the password. Linux tells me it has been changed but it lies! My NIS logons work OK. Any ideas Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Cannot IPL zVM
I would suggest that you have a very small zVM emergency system to IPL to allow you to fix the main system. I had a 2 volume system just for that purpose. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eddie Chen Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Cannot IPL zVM This happend in the past... your ruuning LPAR,verfify if the device is vary off, the path is off on the Hw console Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] ibm.com To Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc IST.EDU 11/12/2008 04:04 PM Subject Re: Cannot IPL zVM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU On Wednesday, 11/12/2008 at 03:06 EST, Melancon, Ruddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HCPZC06718I Using parm disk 1 on volume (device 7400). HCPZC06718I Parm disk resides on cylinders 39-158. HCPISA0912W System Recovery Failure: Volid VVA400 not Mounted. [...] How do I determine if the volume is corrupted?? Is there some tests that will find out what is wrong with this volume?? Did you check the list of possibilities given in the book for message HCP0912W? E.g. if someone reformatted cylinder 0 from z/OS, erasing the CPVOL data, including the alloc map, then system restart will fail even though it did not affect the running system. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Visit our website at http://www.nyse.com Note: The information contained in this message and any attachment to it is privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to the message, and please delete it from your system. Thank you. NYSE Euronext, Inc. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux VM intermittently goes non-responsive
As usual, Bill is right on top of things! Good job Bill. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Bitner Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:13 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux VM intermittently goes non-responsive IBM, have you thought about changing that default? I bet everyone hits it eventually.=20 Hello all, yes we have. Actually I was discussing this topic last week with part of the team. First my apologies that the SRM defaults cause the problems they do. We have changed the defaults in the past, the last time being VM/ESA 1.2.2, so we're probably due. There are two challenges here. The first challenge is that there are environments where the current defaults are appropriate. I had been thinking that the correct approach was to change so that the SRM values could be set in the SYSTEM CONFIG file. We would then ship the default SYSTEM CONFIG file with SRM values that are appropriate with the idea that most existing customers would continue to use their own SYSTEM CONFIG files. Even better, down the road we could have different SYSTEM CONFIGs for different usage. The line item to add SRM values to SYSTEM CONFIG has missed the cut to be included the past couple releases. That was part of the discussion last week. We talked about just changing the defaults and forgetting the SYSTEM CONFIG file. (Though I still like the idea of having that and other things in SYSTEM CONFIG instead of hidden in different places on every system (OPERATOR PROFILE, AUTOLOG profiles, Directory entries, etc.). The second challenge is while everyone agrees they should be changed, it is far more difficult to agree on what the new values should be. I conveniently have a meeting with the scheduler team today. This is on my agenda. So again, I apologize if it appears we have been ignoring this aspect of the system. I'm probably as much to blame as anyone. I'll try to make it right. Regards, Bill Bitner -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SSH on SuSE 10 SP1 problem
I cannot start SSH on my cloned SuSE 10 SP1 system under zVM. It does not start at boot time, but gives the error cipher_encrypt: bad plaintext length 337 I get the same error if I manually try to start it. In the Virtualization Cookbook for SLES 10 SP2 page 152 it gives the procedure for modifying the SSH keys for my cloned system. When I use this procedure, it does not work and it leaves me in a prompt and I cannot get out of it. I do not get the Overwrite prompt. Any ideas? cd /usr/bin brksvl01:/usr/bin # ls ssh* ls ssh* ssh ssh-add ssh-agent ssh-copy-id ssh-keyconverter ssh-keygen ssh-keyscan brksvl01:/usr/bin # ssh-keygen -t rsa -N -q -f ssh_host_rsa_key ssh-keygen -t rsa -N -q -f ssh_host_rsa_key y y y y RUNNING BRKMFZVM Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SSH on SuSE 10 SP1 problem
I typed in two double quotes per the book but only one appeared on the
screen. I will use your method and boot the system. Thanks.
Lea Stahr
Senior Systems Engineer
Linux and zLinux
Navistar, Inc.
630-753-5445
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Leland Lucius
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:03 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SSH on SuSE 10 SP1 problem
Stahr, Lea wrote:
brksvl01:/usr/bin # ssh-keygen -t rsa -N -q -f ssh_host_rsa_key
I believe you're using a double quote () and when it maybe should have
been two singles (''). In any case, you're missing a close quote above.
I haven't read the cookbook, but you really don't need to generate the
keys yourself. All you really need to do is delete all files beginning
with ssh_host in /etc/ssh:
rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host*
Then when ssh is started, the keys will get automatically generated.
See /etc/init.d/ssh:
start)
if ! test -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key ; then
echo Generating /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.
ssh-keygen -t rsa1 -b 1024 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N ''
fi
if ! test -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key ; then
echo Generating /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.
ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 1024 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N
''
fi
if ! test -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ; then
echo Generating /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.
ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 1024 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -N
''
fi
Leland
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Re: SSH on SuSE 10 SP1 problem
Thanks, I knew I was not crazy! Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neale Ferguson Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SSH on SuSE 10 SP1 problem The character is an escape character for the virtual machine console (aka 3215). To enter two double quotes you need to type in 4 of them. On 10/31/08 10:05 AM, Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I typed in two double quotes per the book but only one appeared on the screen. I will use your method and boot the system. Thanks. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SSH on SuSE 10 SP1 problem
SSH now works, thanks for all the help.
Lea Stahr
Senior Systems Engineer
Linux and zLinux
Navistar, Inc.
630-753-5445
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Leland Lucius
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:03 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SSH on SuSE 10 SP1 problem
Stahr, Lea wrote:
brksvl01:/usr/bin # ssh-keygen -t rsa -N -q -f ssh_host_rsa_key
I believe you're using a double quote () and when it maybe should have
been two singles (''). In any case, you're missing a close quote above.
I haven't read the cookbook, but you really don't need to generate the
keys yourself. All you really need to do is delete all files beginning
with ssh_host in /etc/ssh:
rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host*
Then when ssh is started, the keys will get automatically generated.
See /etc/init.d/ssh:
start)
if ! test -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key ; then
echo Generating /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.
ssh-keygen -t rsa1 -b 1024 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N ''
fi
if ! test -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key ; then
echo Generating /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.
ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 1024 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N
''
fi
if ! test -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ; then
echo Generating /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.
ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 1024 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -N
''
fi
Leland
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Re: SSH on SuSE 10 SP1 problem
The shortened procedure worked fine. I received messages that new keys were generated when I booted the system the first time. Thanks to all. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:37 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SSH on SuSE 10 SP1 problem Leland, I haven't read the cookbook, but you really don't need to generate the keys yourself. All you really need to do is delete all files beginning with ssh_host in /etc/ssh: rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host* I didn't know that. This is a cleaner solution. I'll look at trying to work it and document it. Thanks. Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Cloning SuSE 10 under VM
I have printed and looked at the Cookbook and I have a few problems with it. I do not know if it's because I am SP1 and the book is SP2. On PG 151 it says to edit the file /etc/hostname and I do not have that file. On PG 152 it says to regen the SSH keys using /etc/ssh/ssh-keygen and I do not have that file either. The firewall is not running, but in the /var/log/firewall log file I receive errors on BRKMNL02 when the system is BRKSVL01 and it has the old IP address. So my NIS connects but I cannot do an NIS logon. SPT=4317 DPT=23 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 OPT (020405B401010402) Oct 6 07:31:00 brkmnl02 kernel: SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=167 .6.208.17 DST=167.6.0.6 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=122 ID=28163 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4317 DPT=23 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 OPT (020405B401010402) brksvl01:/var/log # RUNNING BRKMFZVM Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Foster at Baldor-IS Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:57 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Cloning SuSE 10 under Vm Lea, There is the virtualization cookbook at: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247493.html?Open Appendix C has a Linux script that does cloning. The function ModifyClone does the modification of the cloned system. You might compare what you change with what the script changes. Ron Foster Baldor Stahr, Lea wrote: I am using the same method of cloning SuSE 10 that I used for SuSE 8. I DDR the disks, the use RPL to replace the name and IP in /etc files. This worked well for SuSE 8, but for SuSE 10 I have a file(s) somewhere else that is not being changed and prevents me from using NIS. Any ideas where this file may be if not under /etc thanks. Lea Stahr Navistar -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Cloning SuSE 10 under VM
I have an /etc/HOSTNAME and its correct. I just downloaded and printed the book this morning. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:29 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Cloning SuSE 10 under VM Lea, I have printed and looked at the Cookbook and I have a few problems with it. We're here to serve :)) On PG 151 it says to edit the file /etc/hostname and I do not have that file. Hmm, I search for /etc/hostname and find two hits on pages 168 and 257 - both with /etc/HOSTNAME. Two things: 1) Are you sure you have the same book - the latest is on http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247493.html?Open 2) Are you sure you don't have an /etc/HOSTNAME file with all caps. On PG 152 it says to regen the SSH keys using /etc/ssh/ssh-keygen and I do not have that file either. Hmm, again I search but do not find /etc/ssh/keygen in the book. I do see on page 149: The SSH keys that were copied are identical to those of the golden image. Manually create three new ones with the ssh-keygen command: # cd /etc/ssh # ssh-keygen -t rsa -N -q -f ssh_host_rsa_key ssh_host_rsa_key already exists. Overwrite (y/n)? y And yes, the ssh-keygen command should be found in your path in /usr/bin. So, hopefully those two problems are cleared up. :)) The firewall is not running, but in the /var/log/firewall log file I receive errors. Just to be sure, what does iptables -L return? If your firewall is off you should see: # iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Cloning SuSE 10 under VM
Vitaly found my NIS error. On our NIS master, they have the wrong address for my system. Thanks for your help. I will next work on SSH. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:32 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Cloning SuSE 10 under VM I have an /etc/HOSTNAME and its correct. I just downloaded and printed the book this morning. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:29 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Cloning SuSE 10 under VM Lea, I have printed and looked at the Cookbook and I have a few problems with it. We're here to serve :)) On PG 151 it says to edit the file /etc/hostname and I do not have that file. Hmm, I search for /etc/hostname and find two hits on pages 168 and 257 - both with /etc/HOSTNAME. Two things: 1) Are you sure you have the same book - the latest is on http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247493.html?Open 2) Are you sure you don't have an /etc/HOSTNAME file with all caps. On PG 152 it says to regen the SSH keys using /etc/ssh/ssh-keygen and I do not have that file either. Hmm, again I search but do not find /etc/ssh/keygen in the book. I do see on page 149: The SSH keys that were copied are identical to those of the golden image. Manually create three new ones with the ssh-keygen command: # cd /etc/ssh # ssh-keygen -t rsa -N -q -f ssh_host_rsa_key ssh_host_rsa_key already exists. Overwrite (y/n)? y And yes, the ssh-keygen command should be found in your path in /usr/bin. So, hopefully those two problems are cleared up. :)) The firewall is not running, but in the /var/log/firewall log file I receive errors. Just to be sure, what does iptables -L return? If your firewall is off you should see: # iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Cloning SuSE 10 under Vm
I am using the same method of cloning SuSE 10 that I used for SuSE 8. I DDR the disks, the use RPL to replace the name and IP in /etc files. This worked well for SuSE 8, but for SuSE 10 I have a file(s) somewhere else that is not being changed and prevents me from using NIS. Any ideas where this file may be if not under /etc thanks. Lea Stahr Navistar -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: z10 BC is Here
And I still like my 360 model 30 back in 1967. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:16 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: z10 BC is Here Harder, Pieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it just me, or does the z10 BC look an awful lot like the 9221 of = yesteryear? Rack mounted instead of frame mounted, with a variable = number of IO units, discrete processors instead of an MCM etc.??? As Bruce suggested, it might just be you. But I have to add, quoting Woody Allen: You say that like it's a negative thing! Other than the horribly slow microcode upgrades (via floppy!), our 9221 was a very nice machine for its time. ...phsiii -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: z10 BC is Here
My DOS was 10KB, the system was brand new with 32KB total memory. I ran BG and F1. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Wooster Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:33 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: z10 BC is Here On 10/22/2008 07:21:41 AM, Stahr, Lea wrote: And I still like my 360 model 30 back in 1967. Hey! We had two of those, when I first got into the business ... in 1977. The OS was 14KB and people told us we'd get better performance if we built a smaller one. Douglas -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere
Does anyone have IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere running on zLinux or know if it will run there? The manual does not mention this environment. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere
Can you tell me what kind of experience/pain you had? Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:52 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere Yes, it does run on Linux for z. We trialed it. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:08 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere Does anyone have IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere running on zLinux or know if it will run there? The manual does not mention this environment. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere
I have found a manual that includes some information for Linux on z. I guess it is a supported platform. Thanks. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:08 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere Does anyone have IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere running on zLinux or know if it will run there? The manual does not mention this environment. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SSH/Telnet into SuSE V10 SP1 problem
Thanks for your help, it worked. I can now get a VNC and putty session. Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:35 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SSH/Telnet into SuSE V10 SP1 problem On 10/6/2008 at 8:45 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed SuSE 10 SP1 in my IFL 2nd level. It is running OK, but I cannot SSH, Telnet, or VNC into it. My only access is from VM. Any idea about what I missed? SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=167.6.208.17 DST=167.6.0.6 LEN=48 TO S=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=122 ID=28163 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4317 DPT=23 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 OPT (020405B401010402) That's a definite rejection by the firewall of telnet. If you didn't specify for SSH or Remote Administration to be allowed during the install, those would be blocked as well. rcSuSEfirewall2 stop should allow you to get in via SSH or VNC to fix that. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
FTP problem
We cannot get an FTP session open on this RHEL 5.1 system. Any ideas what we are doing wrong?? Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Doornbos, Joshua (Josh) Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:12 AM To: Stahr, Lea Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ftp brksvl10 Connected to brksvl10. 220 (vsFTPd 2.0.5) 530 Please login with USER and PASS. 530 Please login with USER and PASS. KERBEROS_V4 rejected as an authentication type - Josh Josh Doornbos Unix Team Navistar, Inc. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone (630) 753-5894 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SSH/Telnet into SuSE V10 SP1 problem
I have installed SuSE 10 SP1 in my IFL 2nd level. It is running OK, but I cannot SSH, Telnet, or VNC into it. My only access is from VM. Any idea about what I missed? SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=167.6.208.17 DST=167.6.0.6 LEN=48 TO S=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=122 ID=28163 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4317 DPT=23 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 OPT (020405B401010402) Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Weird application freeze problem
NTP on Linux? Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:34 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Weird application freeze problem On Wednesday, 09/10/2008 at 08:41 EDT, Quay, Jonathan (IHG) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't the newer z series machines implement ntp themselves to keep the hardware clock correct? Could linux use the hardware clock to keep accurate time? If you enable the external timer function of System z, it will syncronize. For large time deltas, an LPAR that supports STP or ETR will be notified. For small deltas, the LPARs will drift to the correct time. The clock will appear to run faster or slower as needed. We call this TOD clock steering. When Linux is running on z/VM, it cannot receive the time shift notifications. This is because CP does not register with the hardware to receive them. (It's more complicated than that, really.) But if you get the box time in sync and keep it that way, and then deactivate/reactivate your VM LPAR, the VM and guest TOD clocks will remain in sync with the external time reference. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
OmniFind for DB2 text searching
We are considering a pilot of OmniFind Text Search Server for DB2. It requires 4GB of memory, 20GB of disk, 2 dual-core 2.66 GHZ processors and a 32 bit SuSE SLES 10 OS. Is anyone running this on VM in an IFL? Is it possible? CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
DASD problem
I have a SLES 8 system that is coming up with /var not mounted. When I run a fsck /dev/dasdd1 on it I receive the following: fsck.reiserfs /dev/dasdd1 failed (status 0x10). Run manually! Anything I can do to save it? Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer zVM, Linux and zLinux Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version
When I installed VM BSEPP, I did not know if the idea of virtualization would last. Now I have a penguin ranch. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Kevin R Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:41 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version Very true. I was feeling fine until you made me feel old this morning g. K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Perry Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:25 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version Evans, Kevin R wrote: Kinda makes one realize how long z/OS (or its ancestors) has been around, doesn't it? K And those of us who have worked on it too ;-) mark -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version
OS/VS1? Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:59 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version Evans, Kevin R wrote: Kinda makes one realize how long z/OS (or its ancestors) has been around, doesn't it? MFT? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version
MFT, MVT, then VS1.I was DOS/VS. Installed CICS 1.0 macro level to replace BTAM stuff like 40407F7F2DOLDER THAN THE HILLS. My new 360/30 had a DISK drive (no more TOS). DFHPCT, DFHPPT, DFHFCT, DFHTCT etc in CICS. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Kevin R Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version Nah, MFT and I don't even remember what release CICS was in (it was macro based, ya know DFHKC, DFHFC etc). Suffice it to say, there was no Restart/Recovery. This was when I was at Allied Breweries in England, we wrote our own (with a lot of IBM cooperation - we had several SEs on site back then) and wrapped it around the DFHKC, FC and TC IBM code. I had heard that IBM used much of our original code for the CICS Recovery/Restart product although don't know whether that was really true or not. When we put new releases of CICS in, we just (from what I remember) had 4 places (DFHKC, FC, TC and maybe SC) to insert a CLC and BE to re-institute our own recovery stuff). We even had pre-production 3270 screens g. I know, this dates me a lot g. Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:46 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version OS/VS1? Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:59 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version Evans, Kevin R wrote: Kinda makes one realize how long z/OS (or its ancestors) has been around, doesn't it? MFT? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version
We had a check 13 pocket sorter that was connected to a printer that printed tapes. When the pocket filled, you pulled the tape and banded it to the checks. (1968) Our primary system was a card only 1401G. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Kevin R Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:34 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version Mine was 360/50 and a 360/30. When the 30 was replaced with a 2nd 50, we ran the 30 for about a month outside of the computer room (with no air conditioning other than opening the windows) with IBMs blessing. 2311 and 2314 disk drives with a paper tape reader that had a flippable table so that the paper tapes we got in from construction sites could be read either started at the outside or the inside of the PT spool. 2540 card reader/puches and 1403 printers. Ah, the good ole days.g. Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:11 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version MFT, MVT, then VS1.I was DOS/VS. Installed CICS 1.0 macro level to replace BTAM stuff like 40407F7F2DOLDER THAN THE HILLS. My new 360/30 had a DISK drive (no more TOS). DFHPCT, DFHPPT, DFHFCT, DFHTCT etc in CICS. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Kevin R Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version Nah, MFT and I don't even remember what release CICS was in (it was macro based, ya know DFHKC, DFHFC etc). Suffice it to say, there was no Restart/Recovery. This was when I was at Allied Breweries in England, we wrote our own (with a lot of IBM cooperation - we had several SEs on site back then) and wrapped it around the DFHKC, FC and TC IBM code. I had heard that IBM used much of our original code for the CICS Recovery/Restart product although don't know whether that was really true or not. When we put new releases of CICS in, we just (from what I remember) had 4 places (DFHKC, FC, TC and maybe SC) to insert a CLC and BE to re-institute our own recovery stuff). We even had pre-production 3270 screens g. I know, this dates me a lot g. Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:46 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version OS/VS1? Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:59 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version Evans, Kevin R wrote: Kinda makes one realize how long z/OS (or its ancestors) has been around, doesn't it? MFT? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution
Linux version
There is a command that will id the version of Linux. I tried uname -a and it did not tell me the distribution. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Adding SuSE 10 dasd
I am trying to add disk to SuSE SLES 10. In SLES 8, I did a MAKEDEV to create the device file, then did a format and a mkswap. I have no MAKEDEV script (I did a FIND on it). How can I make a device file for a new DASD? Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Adding SuSE 10 dasd
The disk was defined in the VM directory for the Linux guest but was not picked up during the boot. On SLES 8 we added them ZIPL.CONF but the SLES 10 ZIPL.CONF file does not contain the disk range on the PARAMETERS statement. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:44 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Adding SuSE 10 dasd That doesn't add a disk, it enables (think: vary online) an existing disk. Mauro Souza wrote: I usually add a dasd using chccwdev -e 0.0.0123 have you tried it? -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Adding SuSE 10 dasd
Yes, I ran the dasd_configure a few minutes ago and it worked. I will now do the rest, thanks everyone. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:13 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Adding SuSE 10 dasd Maybe you want to use the dasd_configure script which is part of s390-tools on SLES? This is what I've used: dasd_configure 0.0.0123 1 0 The comments in this script say the usage is: dasd_configure ccwid online use_diag And, as mentioned, after you add the disk(s), run mkinitrd and zipl. The script creates the hardware config file for the disk in /etc/sysconfig/hardware. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The disk was defined in the VM directory for the Linux guest but was not picked up during the boot. On SLES 8 we added them ZIPL.CONF but the SLES 10 ZIPL.CONF file does not contain the disk range on the PARAMETERS statement. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bruce Hayden Linux on System z Advanced Technical Support IBM, Endicott, NY -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Next Baybunch at IBM San Francisco-Friday Aug 6
Friday August 6 of what year? Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pamela Christina - warm and sunny Endicott NY Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:34 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Next Baybunch at IBM San Francisco-Friday Aug 6 For those of you who near San Francisco Bay area this Friday and who are interested in hearing z/VM and Linux presentations. The next Baybunch meeting is on Friday August 6 at IBM San Francisco - 425 Market St. Send an RSVP email to Karen Reed at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meet with the Baybunch user group on Friday, August 8 Alan Altmark presents: - z/VM Platform Update - Hear about z/VM V5.4 (just announced!) - Securing Linux with RACF Jim Elliott presents: - Linux on System z: A strategic Details in the PDF: http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/bayb0806.pdf Regards, Pam C -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VNC problem
I tried that and I could not get it to work, The firewall stopped all access. I tried the standard port 2 and I tried 5801. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem On 8/6/2008 at 3:27 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! The firewall was active by default, and I now get a connection after shutting it down. Umm, don't do that. Restart the firewall, then go into YaST - Network Services - Remote Administration. Allow remote administration, and open a port in the firewall on the first panel. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VNC problem
I used port 5901 to get through the firewall and it worked. Dumb me. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:41 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem I tried that and I could not get it to work, The firewall stopped all access. I tried the standard port 2 and I tried 5801. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem On 8/6/2008 at 3:27 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! The firewall was active by default, and I now get a connection after shutting it down. Umm, don't do that. Restart the firewall, then go into YaST - Network Services - Remote Administration. Allow remote administration, and open a port in the firewall on the first panel. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VNC problem
I was using a W2000 client and VNC did not respond to :1 or :2, but it did respond on :5901. The doc said 5801 and did not state browser only. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem vnc listens on 5901-59nn corresponding to client sessions :1-:nn Client converts :1-:nn to ports 5901-59nn vnc listens on 5801-58nn for browser vnc connections; Are you using browser client for your 5801 attempt or desktop client? This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:41 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem I tried that and I could not get it to work, The firewall stopped all access. I tried the standard port 2 and I tried 5801. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem On 8/6/2008 at 3:27 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! The firewall was active by default, and I now get a connection after shutting it down. Umm, don't do that. Restart the firewall, then go into YaST - Network Services - Remote Administration. Allow remote administration, and open a port in the firewall on the first panel. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VNC problem
I just tried the web interface and it responded to 5801, but I had to give it ROOT password to get a login screen. Can I set the VMC password separately from the ROOT password? I am sorry for all my questions, I am not trained on Linux and am doing OJT. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:01 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem I was using a W2000 client and VNC did not respond to :1 or :2, but it did respond on :5901. The doc said 5801 and did not state browser only. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem vnc listens on 5901-59nn corresponding to client sessions :1-:nn Client converts :1-:nn to ports 5901-59nn vnc listens on 5801-58nn for browser vnc connections; Are you using browser client for your 5801 attempt or desktop client? This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stahr, Lea Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:41 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem I tried that and I could not get it to work, The firewall stopped all access. I tried the standard port 2 and I tried 5801. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem On 8/6/2008 at 3:27 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! The firewall was active by default, and I now get a connection after shutting it down. Umm, don't do that. Restart the firewall, then go into YaST - Network Services - Remote Administration. Allow remote administration, and open a port in the firewall on the first panel. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise
Re: AW: Linux sles9 felt in coma
Thanks Gary. I am using the default LDUBUF : Q1=100% Q2=75% Q3=60% and will try this, then the STORBUF: Q1=140% Q2=130% Q3=120%. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Detro Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:29 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: AW: Linux sles9 felt in coma here is what I use for a linux system LDUBUF : Q1=200% Q2=200% Q3=200% STORBUF: Q1=300% Q2=200% Q3=200% It is probably your LDUBUF for Q3 users that is causing it.Change that one 1st and see how it does. Thanks, Detro Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Beltline Rd, Coppell, TX 75019 Internal Mail Stop: 71-01-3001O Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l603) Fax: 469-549-8149 (t/l 603) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Global Solution Center http://w3.ibm.com/support/stss/gesc.html (GSC) http://www.ibm.com/ondemand From: Rempel, Horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 08/07/08 08:26 AM Subject: AW: Linux sles9 felt in coma Hello Jonathan, I can see in perftk that LX004 was in CL3,ELIG while sleeping. Here are my srm-settings: q srm IABIAS : INTENSITY=90%; DURATION=2 LDUBUF : Q1=100% Q2=75% Q3=60% STORBUF: Q1=125% Q2=105% Q3=95% DSPBUF : Q1=32767 Q2=32767 Q3=32767 DISPATCHING MINOR TIMESLICE = 5 MS MAXWSS : LIMIT=% .. : PAGES=99 XSTORE : 0% Ready; T=0.01/0.01 15:15:02 I think these are the default settings. Are there any recommendations for srm settings for this VM. We are mainly running linuxguests with databases. I do not think that this is a storage problem, because we normaly use only 10-20% of the available swapspace and have no VM paging. There are no quickdsp setting in this VM. kind regards Horst Rempel -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU ] Im Auftrag von Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. August 2008 13:07 An: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: Linux sles9 felt in coma Look back in the performance toolkit data and see if an eligible list formed around the time LX004 hung up. You may need to add more paging exposures and/or adjust your SRM. From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Rempel, Horst Sent: Thu 8/7/2008 6:49 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Linux sles9 felt in coma Hello, one of our Linux sles9 SP4 DB2 databaseservers running under z/VM 5.3.0 RSU0801 felt yesterday afternoon in a kind of coma. The linux stopped running. The putty-session got an timeout. I was no longer able to ping. The processor for this lpar was only 20% busy for other linux guests at this time. After that I tried to logon directly to the green screen. But I only got a black screen with LOGON LX004 at the top. The ind user lx004 shows no I/Os, no cpu consumtion. The performance toolkit displayed only zeros for this LX004. After force/xautolog LX004 everything worked fine again. Looking in the linux logs gave no hint what lead to the coma situation. There is enough space free in the filesystems. I have no idea what happened yesterday. Has anybody an idea ? What can I do if the situation come back again ? This mail is crossposted to LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU and [EMAIL PROTECTED] kind regards Horst Rempel -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender.
Re: AW: Linux sles9 felt in coma
OK Barton, I fixed it. Calm down. My company does not believe in classes. I had a Windows Server class in 1997 or 1998 and am working VM/Linux with no classes. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:15 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: AW: Linux sles9 felt in coma NO NO NO NO, PLEASE NO Anybody who raises LDUBUF really needs to look at their paging devices AND know if users are loading. Raising LDUBUF is one of the WORST things you can do for performance - it either does nothing, or allows you to page to death. The ONLY documented performance analysis of LDUBUF in last 20 years shows that lowering LDUBUF stopped a system from thrashing. And if you think a system that does not page can possibly be impacted by LDUBUF, you need, really really need to go to the Velocity Software performance workshop. (Sorry Detro, maybe your company doesn't allow you to take classes?) If your overcommit ratios is above 1, then it's your STORBUF - this problem in Linux is ALWAYS STORBUF. So you are actually doing the reverse of what you should be doing if you raise LDUBUF and not STORBUF. Add up your virtual machine sizes. What is that as compared to what your real storage is? Just set STORBUF to 300 300 300. REALLY. There is a performance class in september, found at VELOCITYSOFTWARE.COM/seminar/workshop.html I would recomend you at least see day one. Horst, you should look at the handout from the configuration guidelines you received from me about 3 years ago. Or review VELOCITYSOFTWARE.COM/PRESENT/CONFIG. Stahr, Lea wrote: Thanks Gary. I am using the default LDUBUF : Q1=100% Q2=75% Q3=60% and will try this, then the STORBUF: Q1=140% Q2=130% Q3=120%. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Detro Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:29 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: AW: Linux sles9 felt in coma here is what I use for a linux system LDUBUF : Q1=200% Q2=200% Q3=200% STORBUF: Q1=300% Q2=200% Q3=200% It is probably your LDUBUF for Q3 users that is causing it.Change that one 1st and see how it does. Thanks, Detro Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Beltline Rd, Coppell, TX 75019 Internal Mail Stop: 71-01-3001O Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l603) Fax: 469-549-8149 (t/l 603) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Global Solution Center http://w3.ibm.com/support/stss/gesc.html (GSC) http://www.ibm.com/ondemand From: Rempel, Horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 08/07/08 08:26 AM Subject: AW: Linux sles9 felt in coma Hello Jonathan, I can see in perftk that LX004 was in CL3,ELIG while sleeping. Here are my srm-settings: q srm IABIAS : INTENSITY=90%; DURATION=2 LDUBUF : Q1=100% Q2=75% Q3=60% STORBUF: Q1=125% Q2=105% Q3=95% DSPBUF : Q1=32767 Q2=32767 Q3=32767 DISPATCHING MINOR TIMESLICE = 5 MS MAXWSS : LIMIT=% .. : PAGES=99 XSTORE : 0% Ready; T=0.01/0.01 15:15:02 I think these are the default settings. Are there any recommendations for srm settings for this VM. We are mainly running linuxguests with databases. I do not think that this is a storage problem, because we normaly use only 10-20% of the available swapspace and have no VM paging. There are no quickdsp setting in this VM. kind regards Horst Rempel -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU ] Im Auftrag von Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. August 2008 13:07 An: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: Linux sles9 felt in coma Look back in the performance toolkit data and see if an eligible list formed around the time LX004 hung up. You may need to add more paging exposures and/or adjust your SRM. From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Rempel, Horst Sent: Thu 8/7/2008 6:49 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Linux sles9 felt in coma Hello, one of our Linux sles9 SP4 DB2 databaseservers running under z/VM 5.3.0 RSU0801 felt yesterday afternoon in a kind of coma. The linux stopped running. The putty-session got an timeout. I was no longer able to ping. The processor for this lpar was only 20% busy for other linux guests at this time. After that I tried to logon directly to the green screen. But I only got a black screen with LOGON LX004 at the top. The ind user lx004
Re: VNC problem
When I enter on port 5901 it takes me immediately to the Linux login screen. I cannot find vncpassword and it does not execute. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:23 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem On 8/7/2008 at 9:04 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried the web interface and it responded to 5801, but I had to give it ROOT password to get a login screen. Can I set the VMC password separately from the ROOT password? Yes. Logon to your Linux system via the console, or SSH, and enter the vncpassword command. You should then be able to sign in with that password. I would have expected you to be prompted for that same password via the non-web interface (port 5901). Odd that you weren't. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VNC problem
I found it and it ran OK. The password is required for the web interface only. The Windows client does not ask for it. Thanks to all!!! Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:38 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem On 8/7/2008 at 11:32 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I enter on port 5901 it takes me immediately to the Linux login screen. I cannot find vncpassword and it does not execute. Sorry, that should have been vncpasswd. It's part of the tightvnc RPM. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
VNC problem
I have a new SuSE 10 SP1 guest. I have started the VNCSERVER on Linux. I cannot connect to it, the connections timeout from W2000 viewers. I am using VNC 4.1.2. I have looked at the RealVNC site and cannot find the problem. I do not know what is supplied with Linux. Should I try the newer 4.4 viewer? Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VNC problem
Thanks! The firewall was active by default, and I now get a connection after shutting it down. Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gasiorowski Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:14 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC problem Check you most likely have the Linux Firewall active 'Where ever you go - There you are!! ' Richard (Gaz) Gasiorowski Global Solutions Technology Principal Lead Infrastructure Architect 845-773-9243 Work 845-392-7889 Cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Sciences Corporation Registered Office: 3170 Fairview Park Drive, Falls Church, Virginia 22042, USA Registered in Nevada, USA No: C-489-59 - This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. - Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 08/06/2008 02:47 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject VNC problem I have a new SuSE 10 SP1 guest. I have started the VNCSERVER on Linux. I cannot connect to it, the connections timeout from W2000 viewers. I am using VNC 4.1.2. I have looked at the RealVNC site and cannot find the problem. I do not know what is supplied with Linux. Should I try the newer 4.4 viewer? Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: vi alternative?
I have installed the SuSE 10 SP1 under my zVM 5.2. I chose to do the SSH install and it worked OK. When I tried to use PUTTY to access the system, it presented the LOGON and PASSWORD prompts but I always receive an ACCESS DENIED reply. I can SSH in from a SuSE 8 guest OK using the same userid and password. Is there a newer version of putty that I need? Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: vi alternative?
I tried the 2 only and it abended. Then I turned on X11 Forwarding and it worked. This is the newest level of PUTTY .60 . Thanks everyone for your help. Lea Stahr Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fargusson.Alan Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 12:49 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: vi alternative? The choices are 1 only, 1, 2, or 2 only. The default is 1, not 1 only. If PuTTY does not try 2 after 1 is rejected it is a bug. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:42 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: vi alternative? I have cured this by setting the preferred protocol version to 2 in the connection-SSH selection in PuTTY. I am not sure why this works. I think PuTTY has a bug in the negotiation. More likely: the default SSHD configuration was changed to permit v2 connections only following a compromise of the v1 protocol. This happened a while back. PuTTY gets the reject from the v1 attempt, and doesn't retry with v2. The Unix ssh clients are configured to try v2 if v1 fails. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Ruby on Rails
Inefficiency? Aren't all interpretive languages inefficient by definition versus compiled languages? Lea Stahr Linux, zLinux, and zVM Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:43 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Ruby on Rails I've suggested before that the resource efficiency of applications is reverse proportional with the percentage of people able to program on the platform... It appears I can use this table ... ;-) Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Ruby on Rails
Generally, most executions are highly repetitive, making the execution time the determining factor. The less CPU time the better. Ad hoc runs are more concerned with coding time, and the development times are high value. I have seen so much really bad Java lately that eats wall clock time! Lea Stahr Linux, zLinux, and zVM Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry E Schaffer Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:21 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Ruby on Rails Lea writes: Inefficiency? Aren't all interpretive languages inefficient by definition versus compiled languages? Maybe, it depends. Many interpreted languages call well coded / compiled routines, so the majority of the execution time very well may be in the routines. (Think APL. :-) It also depends on whether inefficient applies only to the execution time, or includes the development and testing times. So, e.g., a short Perl script which applies a regular expression to a file and emits some summary results very well might be a much more efficient overall process than would result from using a compiled language. -- --henry schaffer -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SuSE 10 Starter System Problem
Thanks you Mark for the info. Yes, I used IE6 and forgot the checksum. Dumb error. I will transfer the file again. Lea Stahr Linux, zLinux, and zVM Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:46 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SuSE 10 Starter System Problem On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:53 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am installing the SuSE SLES 10 Starter System on VM V5.2. Everything works fine until I try to VMARC UNPACK NOV151 VMARC G * * A. It does a lot of I/O for 15 minutes, then hangs with no I/O for hours. I have tried the VMARC that came with the Starter System and the one on the 19F disk with the same results. Any ideas? That sounds familiar. From the listing you gave of the file sizes on CMS, you're missing quite a bit of the NOV151 VMARC file. Did you run md5sum against it before uploading it to CMS? It should be 2213447520 bytes long on your desktop/laptop, with an MD5 checksum of 06f30ce8744a303eb507f0454d2245c5 . On CMS, it should be: FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS NOV151 VMARCW1 F 80 27668094 540393 One caution about what you use to download the file, since it's over 2GB. Various incarnations of Internet Explorer (if not all of them) can't handle files over 2GB in size. Use something else to do the downloads. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SuSE 10 Starter System Problem
I am installing the SuSE SLES 10 Starter System on VM V5.2. Everything works fine until I try to VMARC UNPACK NOV151 VMARC G * * A. It does a lot of I/O for 15 minutes, then hangs with no I/O for hours. I have tried the VMARC that came with the Starter System and the one on the 19F disk with the same results. Any ideas? l * * G (da FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME NOV151 VMARCG1 F 80 17353933 338944 4/22/08 10:17:47 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:38:24 l * * a (da FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME CMSDDR EXEC A2 V 72134 2 5/22/01 11:20:47 DDR2CMSX HELPCMS A1 V 79139 2 5/22/01 11:14:31 DDR2CMSX MODULE A2 V 65535 5 33 5/21/01 10:13:18 VMARCOMODULE A1 V 13456 3 4 5/19/02 18:26:05 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:38:44 q disk a LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL NOVF00 F000 A R/W 3338 3390 40964 81-01 600759 600840 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:38:51 l vmarc module * (da FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME VMARCMODULE F2 V 12680 2 4 8/28/07 0:31:28 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:39:17 vmarc unpack nov151 vmarc g * * a RUNNING BRKMFZVM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Peoplesoft/Oracle on SUSE Linux under zSeries
We looked at doing this but could find no users that ran it all. The Oracle will run on zVM but we were told not PeopleSoft code. Lea Stahr Linux, zLinux, and zVM Administrator 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Collins Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:10 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Peoplesoft/Oracle on SUSE Linux under zSeries We are considering running the Oracle databases for a Peoplesoft implementation on SUSE guests running under zVM. If anyone is doing it today we'd like to know as validation of this option. Also, we've been told that even if we get that to work the other pieces of the Peoplesoft implementation will need to go on non-zSeries distributed systems servers and are wondering if anyone has implemented the actual application code and interfaces on zSeries Linux guests. Some people in our organization are concerned that none of this can be done and if someone is doing it already it helps us validate it is an option which should be considered. Thanks in advance for any information. Craig Collins State of WI -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SuSE Versions
On Red Hat, the file is /etc/redhat-release. Lea Stahr Linux, zLinux, and zVM Administrator 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmund R. MacKenty Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:13 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SuSE Versions On Thursday 31 January 2008 13:09, Walters, Gene P wrote: We are running several versions of SuSE on our IFL. I am trying to make a list of what we are running. I went into each Instance and did a cat /proc/version, but that shows me the kernel level. How can I either find the SuSE version, or equate that kernel level to a specific SuSE version? Management wants this list and they don't understand kernel versions..lol Do a cat /etc/*release command. Most Linux systems have a file matching that pattern that describes the distro. My SLES 9 box has this: SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 (s390x) VERSION = 9 Also, how can I tell if it is 32-bit or 64-bit. The uname -m command will output s390 on a 31-bit system, or s390x on a 64-bit system. - MacK. - Edmund R. MacKenty Software Architect Rocket Software, Inc. Newton, MA USA -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: CSL-WAVE
Probably everyone on this list has received help from Barton in the past. Lea Stahr Linux, zLinux, and zVM Administrator 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:41 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: CSL-WAVE Rob, by such posts. Could that be the pot calling the kettle black? I've seen plugs for Velocity products which don't seem to be interpreted as spam. Of course I do appreciate that Velocity Software donates the resources for linuxvm.org, but I'm just trying to keep things in perspective. Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: IP address changed, how do I update rhel4 to match?
I have been using rpl for years to help clone Linux systems easily. From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Gary Detro Sent: Tue 1/15/2008 7:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IP address changed, how do I update rhel4 to match? I found a module from LaffyComputers.com a couple of years ago. It is freeware and is call rpl. you pass it the parameter you want it to find and then there are options to autochange everything or selectively change, it also has an option to recursively parameter to search sub-directories. Thanks, Gary L. Detro Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235) Send me an email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://webmail2.nav-international.com/exchange/Lea.Stahr/Drafts/ATT530683.jpg IBM Global Solution Center http://w3.ibm.com/support/stss/gesc.html on demand http://www.ibm.com/ondemand Warren Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 01/15/2008 04:54 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject IP address changed, how do I update rhel4 to match? anyone know how to updae vm/linux to reflect our new IP address? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Possible problem on using new Starter System
I do not know if the problem is me or the new procedure. To FTP any files, I cannot FTP directly to/from Windows and zVM V5.1. I can FTP from Windoze to a SLES 8, then from VM do a GET (two stage transfer). In using the new procedure to FTP VMAEXEC, I change to binary OK, but when I try to site fix 80, I receive invalid command. It transfers the files but then I cannot EXEC VMAEXEC EXTRACT A as the file is still in 8192 character format. l * * a (da FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME CMSDEXEC EXEC A1 V 8192 30 59 11/02/07 10:44:43 NOVSTART SAMPASC A1 V 1458 1 1 11/02/07 10:45:11 NOV19F VMARCA1 V 8192 1611 3223 11/07/07 7:45:50 NOV191 VMARCA1 V 8192 2 4 11/07/07 7:45:32 VMAEXEC EXEC A1 V 8192 11 22 11/07/07 8:17:55 Any ideas what I am doing wrong? ( I know the procedure is correct). Lea Stahr Linux, zLinux, and zVM Administrator 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: IBM's Next Generation Mainframe Processor
We lost our Linux Websphere POC to the Windows group because we were too slow. I want a Z6 tomorrow. Lea Stahr Linux, zLinux, and zVM Administrator 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:23 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's Next Generation Mainframe Processor RPN01 wrote: Could we please wait for IBM to wrap something around the chip, before we start loading them onto the truck and shipping them out to the customers? No -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Novell Suse vs Red Hat
We use SuSE on the z. The original reason was the support for our environment. Last week at the IBM Expo, two presenters from IBM said that they had given code to SuSE and Red Hat that only SuSE had included in their distributions. Our two 32 bit Red Hat HPC clusters are Red Hat today but the vendor is switching to SuSE for the new 64 bit clusters. Lea Stahr Linux, zLinux, and zVM Administrator 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eatherly, John D [EQ] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:49 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Novell Suse vs Red Hat We are looking at Red Hat and SUSE. Does anyone have any input on which one is better for the z platform. Any advantages or disadvantages? The only difference that I can see is that SUSE seems to be a little ahead on the maintenance releases. I have done some searching but cannot find much more that would help us make this decision. Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks in advance... John Eatherly -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community
Keep to the conceptual ideas and ignore the possibly inaccurate details. I am looking for more customers on Linux here at ITEC. Lea Stahr Linux and zLinux Administrator 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 10:59 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community On Wed, Aug 1, 2007 at 8:53 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/17998 It's too bad the article repeats the idea that's going around that Red Hat's recent agreement with IBM is something new. Red Hat was later to the market than SuSE was back then, but they didn't miss it by 7 years! Stuff like that just makes me wonder what else they got wrong that I don't know is wrong. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Dropping off...
I worked on a B3500 and all I can remember was the goofy card reader with the drum. Cards would shoot all over the computer room when the gate stuck open. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:25 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Dropping off... John Campbell wrote: As one of IBM's techies included in the May 1th resource action, I will be dropping off-list by the end of the month. Is this IBM Global Service sacking everyone and sending the jobs to India? It's been fun and I wish I'd had *real* (or even virtual) experience w/ S/390s or zSeries and Linux. The place with be the poorer. Whenever I see one of your offerings I recall one of my lecturers from the early 70s. A good bloke, if a little odd. A great fan of the Burroughs B-series architecture. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Used 3480 Tapes
Installation of the RPQ will be..you guessed it, Saturday Night! Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hare Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:13 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Used 3480 Tapes And another RPQ from the Bay City Rollers g Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: NIS on Linux
Getent now works and I see the NIS users, but I still cannot authenticate to NIS on HPUX. My Linux system is listed in the ypservers list. I can ypcat everything. The userid is in the NIS list and not in the local passwd file. Linux is SuSE SLES 8 and HPUX is 11i. Both systems are behind our firewall. On the brksvl07 Linux server I get the messages: brksvl07:~ # cd /var/log brksvl07:/var/log # tail messages Mar 30 06:12:08 brksvl07 named[427]: lame server resolving '58.189.6.167.in-addr.arpa' (in '6.167.in-addr.arpa'?): 199.191.144.75#53 Mar 30 06:12:08 brksvl07 named[427]: lame server resolving '58.189.6.167.in-addr.arpa' (in '6.167.in-addr.arpa'?): 199.191.145.136#53 Mar 30 06:12:10 brksvl07 named[427]: lame server resolving '58.189.6.167.in-addr.arpa' (in '6.167.in-addr.arpa'?): 199.191.128.43#53 Mar 30 06:12:10 brksvl07 named[427]: lame server resolving '58.189.6.167.in-addr.arpa' (in '6.167.in-addr.arpa'?): 199.191.144.75#53 Mar 30 06:12:11 brksvl07 named[427]: lame server resolving '58.189.6.167.in-addr.arpa' (in '6.167.in-addr.arpa'?): 199.191.145.136#53 Mar 30 06:12:11 brksvl07 ippl: telnet connection attempt from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 30 06:12:18 brksvl07 inetd[710]: smtp/tcp: bind: Address already in use Mar 30 06:12:18 brksvl07 login: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM 167.6.189.58 FOR yzyles1, Authentication failure Mar 30 06:12:30 brksvl07 login: FAILED LOGIN 2 FROM 167.6.189.58 FOR yzyles1, Authentication failure Mar 30 06:12:41 brksvl07 login: FAILED LOGIN 3 FROM 167.6.189.58 FOR root, Authentication failure brksvl07:/var/log # Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:08 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux Also keep in mind there are two major NIS variants. Modern HPUX defaults to secure NIS, which has some extra setup steps to authenticate to NIS before it'll tell you anything. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: 3/22/07 10:45 AM Subject: Re: NIS on Linux The real trick with PAM is to make sure that nsswitch is configured to allow the userid's to appear. If you issue: getent passwd do you see your NIS users too? If not then your nsswitch.conf and/or nscd may need to be reconfigured. once getent is working, pam should not have any issues, although you might need to tweak the pam stack to handle if the NIS server is unavailable. Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Backup Restore
I use the exact same backup procedure in my shop. Guest downtime is only 5-10 minutes. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:55 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Backup Restore Since you are running MVS on your box, you can always (assuming you are sharing DASD) take your volume-level backups on the MVS side, which is what we do so far. To add to the fun, if your DASD has snapshot capability, you can get minimal guest downtime by: 1) Shut down a guest. 2) Snap its DASD on z/OS. 3) Start up the guest. 4) Back up the snapshot copy to tape. This is the procedure I use here for DR backups. File level backups are a whole different animal, though. Jon snip Primarily I need a DR solution; mainly to be able to bring the system back from a disaster in under a week. There are already DR processes in place for other systems on the mainframe(s), such as MVS, CICS, etc. I am behind on z/VM in that regard. /snip -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Surprise, Microsoft Listed as Most Secure OS
Fewer patches for Linux can mean either fewer problems fixed or fewer problems that NEED to be fixed. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miguel Delapaz Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:40 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Surprise, Microsoft Listed as Most Secure OS Aside from the odd choice of metrics (and the interpretations of them), the article/report doesn't touch on the more prevalent problem of default configurations not really being designed w/ security in mind. Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 03/23/2007 10:12:54 AM: -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Mark Post On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 11:57 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, McKown, John wrote: Laugh? Cry? Throw Up? http://www.internetnews.com/security/article.php/3667201 It's a little hard to understand the decision criteria used, as reported by the article. Microsoft had 12 high severity problems (out of 39 reported fixed), Red Hat had 2 high severity problems out of 208 reported fixed, and Mac OS X had 1 high severity problem out of 43 reported fixed. Certainly days until fixed is important, but the article doesn't say how that was measured, so who knows if that's accurate/reasonable or not? If you patch all the big holes in a screen door, don't you still have a screen door? Granted, it might keep the Junebugs out -jc- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
NIS on Linux
I am trying to startup NIS usage on both SuSE and Red Hat. They are connecting to an HP-UX Unix master server. I have followed the instructions and can do a YPWHICH, but the HP-UX system does not allow me to authenticate because we (by default) use PAM. Can someone point me to a source of info to either turn off PAM on these systems or configure PAM to allow HP-UX connection? I appreciate any help. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: NIS on Linux
I have NSSWITCH.CONF set to FILES then NIS for both password and group. I have HOSTS set to FILES the NIS then DNS. I can see the passwd entries and YPWHICH shows the server. I cannot logon using either the NIS password or the local password. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:32 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux The real trick with PAM is to make sure that nsswitch is configured to allow the userid's to appear. If you issue: getent passwd do you see your NIS users too? If not then your nsswitch.conf and/or nscd may need to be reconfigured. once getent is working, pam should not have any issues, although you might need to tweak the pam stack to handle if the NIS server is unavailable. Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 10:04 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I am trying to startup NIS usage on both SuSE and Red Hat. They are connecting to an HP-UX Unix master server. I have followed the instructions and can do a YPWHICH, but the HP-UX system does not allow me to authenticate because we (by default) use PAM. Can someone point me to a source of info to either turn off PAM on these systems or configure PAM to allow HP-UX connection? I appreciate any help. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: NIS on Linux
I have the + entries, do not use shadow, I tried compat and it did not work. I will add the 3 entries you have for nis and try that. Thanks! Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:47 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux Try compat for your nsswitch.conf example: passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat password_compat: nis group_compat:nis shadow_compat: nis And just double checking you do have the + entries in passwd, shadow(if applicable), and group.. jrw Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 10:40 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I have NSSWITCH.CONF set to FILES then NIS for both password and group. I have HOSTS set to FILES the NIS then DNS. I can see the passwd entries and YPWHICH shows the server. I cannot logon using either the NIS password or the local password. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:32 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux The real trick with PAM is to make sure that nsswitch is configured to allow the userid's to appear. If you issue: getent passwd do you see your NIS users too? If not then your nsswitch.conf and/or nscd may need to be reconfigured. once getent is working, pam should not have any issues, although you might need to tweak the pam stack to handle if the NIS server is unavailable. Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 10:04 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I am trying to startup NIS usage on both SuSE and Red Hat. They are connecting to an HP-UX Unix master server. I have followed the instructions and can do a YPWHICH, but the HP-UX system does not allow me to authenticate because we (by default) use PAM. Can someone point me to a source of info to either turn off PAM on these systems or configure PAM to allow HP-UX connection? I appreciate any help. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact
Re: NIS on Linux
I do not think we are secure NIS as we are on 11.11 (11i or 11 V1). I can do a ypcat and see the server OK. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:08 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux Also keep in mind there are two major NIS variants. Modern HPUX defaults to secure NIS, which has some extra setup steps to authenticate to NIS before it'll tell you anything. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: 3/22/07 10:45 AM Subject: Re: NIS on Linux The real trick with PAM is to make sure that nsswitch is configured to allow the userid's to appear. If you issue: getent passwd do you see your NIS users too? If not then your nsswitch.conf and/or nscd may need to be reconfigured. once getent is working, pam should not have any issues, although you might need to tweak the pam stack to handle if the NIS server is unavailable. Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: NIS on Linux
Do I need to reboot after turning off nscd? Or kill the pids? Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux I would also turn off nscd if it's running until you were sure things were working right. jrw Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 10:52 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I have the + entries, do not use shadow, I tried compat and it did not work. I will add the 3 entries you have for nis and try that. Thanks! Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:47 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux Try compat for your nsswitch.conf example: passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat password_compat: nis group_compat:nis shadow_compat: nis And just double checking you do have the + entries in passwd, shadow(if applicable), and group.. jrw Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 10:40 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I have NSSWITCH.CONF set to FILES then NIS for both password and group. I have HOSTS set to FILES the NIS then DNS. I can see the passwd entries and YPWHICH shows the server. I cannot logon using either the NIS password or the local password. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:32 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux The real trick with PAM is to make sure that nsswitch is configured to allow the userid's to appear. If you issue: getent passwd do you see your NIS users too? If not then your nsswitch.conf and/or nscd may need to be reconfigured. once getent is working, pam should not have any issues, although you might need to tweak the pam stack to handle if the NIS server is unavailable. Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 10:04 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I am trying to startup NIS usage on both SuSE and Red Hat. They are connecting to an HP-UX Unix master server. I have followed the instructions and can do a YPWHICH, but the HP-UX system does not allow me to authenticate because we (by default) use PAM. Can someone point me to a source of info to either turn off PAM on these systems or configure PAM to allow HP-UX connection? I appreciate any help. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390
Re: NIS on Linux
I stopped the NSCD. Logon failed on Authentication Failure. This is SLES 8. Userid is not in the local passwd file. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:51 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux service nscd stop Whoops - or rcnscd stop on SLES 9 or earlier (SLES 10 and RHEL x have the service command, SLES 9 does not) Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: NIS on Linux
Turned off nscd and cannot authenticate to NIS. Userid is noot in local passwd file. If I add him back, then I can logon using the local password but not the NIS password. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:13 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux Entirely agree. It also offers some level of stability if the NIS server is momentarily unavailable. RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 12:03 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux Don't forget to go back and start it again once you have things stablized. Without nscd, every request will cause a trip back to the server for data. Nscd's purpose is to shortcut these requests, speading up your system and cutting down on your network traffic. It is surprising just how much traffic is generated by shutting down nscd. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 3/22/07 10:45 AM, Jeremy Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No reboot needed, if using SuSE it's just /etc/init.d/nscd stop Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 11:15 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux Do I need to reboot after turning off nscd? Or kill the pids? Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux I would also turn off nscd if it's running until you were sure things were working right. jrw Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 10:52 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I have the + entries, do not use shadow, I tried compat and it did not work. I will add the 3 entries you have for nis and try that. Thanks! Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:47 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux Try compat for your nsswitch.conf example: passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat password_compat: nis group_compat:nis shadow_compat: nis And just double checking you do have the + entries in passwd, shadow(if applicable), and group.. jrw Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 10:40 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I have NSSWITCH.CONF set to FILES then NIS for both password and group. I have HOSTS set to FILES the NIS then DNS. I can see the passwd entries and YPWHICH shows the server. I cannot logon using either the NIS password or the local password. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:32 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux The real trick with PAM is to make sure that nsswitch is configured to allow the userid's to appear. If you issue: getent passwd do you see your NIS users too? If not then your nsswitch.conf and/or nscd may need to be reconfigured. once getent is working, pam should not have any issues, although you might need to tweak the pam stack to handle if the NIS server is unavailable. Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 10:04 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I am trying to startup NIS usage on both SuSE and Red Hat. They are connecting to an HP-UX Unix master server. I have followed the instructions and can do a YPWHICH, but the HP-UX system does not allow me to authenticate because we (by default) use PAM. Can someone point me to a source of info to either turn off PAM on these systems or configure PAM to allow HP-UX connection? I appreciate any help. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630
Re: NIS on Linux
I see the NIS entry and password as expected. Our entries have only a + sign and no colons per the manual. I have tried both ssh and non-ssh and cannot login. I get Access Denied if I ssh and I get Login Incorrect if I use non-ssh. I do not have a pam_unix2.conf in /etc. Thanks for your help. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:23 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux HmmI am running out of tricks.. what do you get when you do: ypmatch [userid] passwd Do you see the encrypted password in the second field? What does this show? id [userid] From the double check tree... are you sure there are enough colons in the various + entries? are you doing anything with netgroups that might be getting in the way? are you using the default pam_unix2.conf or has it been modified at all? are you logging into the console (/etc/pam.d/login) or via ssh (/etc/pam.d/sshd)? jrw Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/22/2007 12:06 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [LINUX-390] NIS on Linux I stopped the NSCD. Logon failed on Authentication Failure. This is SLES 8. Userid is not in the local passwd file. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:51 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: NIS on Linux service nscd stop Whoops - or rcnscd stop on SLES 9 or earlier (SLES 10 and RHEL x have the service command, SLES 9 does not) Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Vdisk
I use CMS for adding a temporary expansion of disk work area on a spare 3390 allocation also (very easy, then Linux detects it). Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:14 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Vdisk It shouldn't be hard to hook a mkswap command into /etc/inittab, to run before (almost) everything else and do away with this ipl cms first caper. or even in /linuxrc (in the initial ram disk). Sure, it's possible, but why reinvent the wheel if there's a trivial solution waiting to be used? If you want to do some setup in the virtual machine first (like coupling network adapters to the right lans, setting performance options, etc), it's a lot easier to do it CMS than in Linux -- get it set the way you want it, and then all Linux has to do is detect it and use it. You also don't have to mess with the startup process or /etc/inittab and propagate that between releases, which, given the spotty support from the distributors, if you can claim it's exactly as you shipped it, you can take a lot of noise right out of the support discussion. In fact, if you DO mess with the startup, you probably invalidate your support agreement, so unless you're prepared to go it on your own, I'd say it's a lot better to use the tools you've got and not try to reinvent the startup logic. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Perceptions of zLinux
I use VDISK successfully every day on 18 SuSE systems and VM 5.1.. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:56 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Perceptions of zLinux No problem. We agree to disagree on this one. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/24/2007 2:24 PM On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 1:26 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- And I started to explain why there is a reason for not having vdisk (or minimize its use). Sorry, but there is _no_ valid reason to avoid using VDISK, if the systems programmer does their job. Period. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Perceptions of zLinux
We have 3-5 vdisk on each Linux 20,000 pages each. We have 4G central and no expanded. Things run really well and we are looking for more customers. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:29 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Perceptions of zLinux Lea, just curious what sizes of vdisk did you use, and how much central and expanded storage do you have? Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 02/26/2007 02:04 PM Subject Re: Perceptions of zLinux Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU I use VDISK successfully every day on 18 SuSE systems and VM 5.1.. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:56 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Perceptions of zLinux No problem. We agree to disagree on this one. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/24/2007 2:24 PM On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 1:26 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- And I started to explain why there is a reason for not having vdisk (or minimize its use). Sorry, but there is _no_ valid reason to avoid using VDISK, if the systems programmer does their job. Period. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachments and/or documents linked to this email, are intended for the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, or otherwise protected by law. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying is prohibited. This notice serves as a confidentiality marking for the purpose of any confidentiality or nondisclosure agreement. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the original sender. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux and Railroad Diagrams
I agree!! Could you start tomorrow? Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scully, William P Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:01 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: Linux and Railroad Diagrams rant Is it just me? Don't you find the syntax descriptions of Linux commands hard to understand because they're not written with so-called railroad diagrams? I don't know who invented the railroad scheme, but I certainly credit IBM (and others) for adopting the layout. If I'm force into early retirement someday I think that'll be my hobby: Re-editing Linux doc so it can be unequivocally read and understood by ordinary humans. /rant -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: OT: Linux and Railroad Diagrams
A railroad track diagram is much clearer, more concise than several pages of verbose explanation. One vote for the RR track. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:19 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Linux and Railroad Diagrams As far as I can tell there is no consolidated Linux Command Reference anywhere. /bin/csh cd /usr/man (note, *not* /usr/man/catman!) foreach i (`ls -R *`) ( note backticks -- I'm sure there's a better way, but what did you pay for this one? ) cat $i | troff -man | lpr -Pyourpsprinter echo $i end Now you have a command reference for your system man pages. If you want a TOC, you'll need to insert troff chapter commands between the files, save them to a tmp file and run troff separately. For info format docs, there is a texman command that can format info docs into printable format. Texman produces a TOC (if horribly formatted). Honestly, I personally hate railroad track diagrams. For me, they just camouflage an inability to describe a command completely and accurately in prose. They do have an advantage if you need multilingual docs, however. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: How do I find ...
My system does not have SPident at all. My SuSE-release files just says Version 8.1 and nothing else. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:23 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: How do I find ... The tool that is supposed to tell you is Spident, but I don't find it to be reliable. Below are the output from two of my systems, both recently updated with every patch available from SuSE at the time it was updated... rockhopper:~ # SPident CONCLUSION: System is NOT up-to-date! foundSLES-9-s390x-SP1 + online updates expected SLES-9-s390x-SP3 rockhopper:~ # exit mfl10:~ # SPident Summary # of packages (787) Product/ServicePack conflictmatch update (shipped) SLES-8-Int-s3901 0.1%451 57.3% 126(896 50.3%) SLES-8-s390-SP200% 13 1.7% 42(141 9.2%) SLES-8-s390-SP32 0.7% 76 9.7% 65(286 26.6%) SLES-8-s390-SP400%109 13.9% 83(264 41.3%) Unknown 152 19.3% CONCLUSION: No supported Product/ServicePack found at all! mfl10:~ # Again, both systems were updated using the Online Update. At some point, I'd assume that you'd pick up everything that would have been found in the service pack, but obviously, the systems don't think so. So my question is: If you're using Online Update, is there a way to actually bring a system up through the Service Packs? And / or why doesn't Online Update supply all the fixes that the Service Packs do? What's the proper way to do this? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. From: LJ Mace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 12:15:33 -0800 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: How do I find ... What fix paxk oof sles I'm on?? I know I'm on sp3 but let say I fall and bump my head tonight and tomorrow someone asks me What fix pack of sles are we on? I could try a unmae -a ,if I rememebered it but that doesn't show it. thanks Mace __ __ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Time Zone problem
I have what I think is a major Linux problem (not on s390 of course). I have a large Red Hat 8 cluster. I have searched the Red Hat database and found the Time Zone patch https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2006-0745.html but it does not list a RH8 version. Any ideas? I have the patch for SuSE already and am installing that already on my 15 systems. I found the RHEL3 patch listed also that I need. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SuSE Linux Support
Hello group. We are using Mainline Systems for SuSE linux support. While their support is good, it's also expensive. Can you give me some of your support providers to compare? Thanks. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?
I did FDR backups of a running system and they would not run when restored. Shut down the Linux system and they work fine. Lea Stahr Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hare Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:10 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: FDR backups of Linux volumes? I realize it isn't the best practice for backing up Linux, but I will be having to move volumes to a new DASD array. I'd like to use FDR full-volume backups of my Linux volumes just for insurance (we will use FDRPAS to move the information, most likely). Has anyone had any issues taking full-volume backups of Linux-formatted 3390-3 volumes? Also - is it normal for the volume serial to be 0X followed by the device number? Thanks Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Service Pack Display
I do not have an spident command (command not found) on SLES 8. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dominic Coulombe Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:06 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Service Pack Display Hi, Try the SPident command. Regards. On 9/20/06, Massimiliano Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hy guys, how is possible to get the service pack level from my zLinux system? Usually I get a kernel level issuing uname -a but I cannot see witch service pack is related to it. Is there another command or another file to see this information? Thanks Max -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Service Pack Display
I tried both. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark D Pace Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:34 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Service Pack Display I do not have an spident command (command not found) on SLES 8 Also watch your case it's SPident not spident Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Z9-503 and zVM 5.1
Is anyone out there running zVM 5.1 on a Z9 model 503? Any problems? Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLE8 and z/9
I plan on coming up on a 2094-503 under VM 5.1 (with lots of maintenance) and run SLES 8 for a few months until I get SLES 9 ready. Has anyone done this??? Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:53 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLE8 and z/9 we're running sles8 on a 2094 under 5.1. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:29 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: SLE8 and z/9 Can anyone ell me if sle8 will run on a Z9 2096-s07 (BC) with z/VM 5.2 . Officially they say NO. But any experience from the real world. Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 __ __ This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system. __ __ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLE8 and z/9
I will be running SLES 8 under V5.1 on Z9 EC 503 starting next week (I hope). Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:03 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLE8 and z/9 Both are full of that which promotes growth. Runs fine. I'd believe we haven't tested it and it probably won't work in LPAR mode, but it runs fine under VM. David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates They is/are Novell. IBM have told me that the official Novell view is that sle8 will not run on z9 BC even under z/VM 5. I have not seen this for myself yet. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLE8 and z/9
I will be running SLES 8 under V5.1 on Z9 EC 503 starting next week (I hope). We do not the hardware yet. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:03 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLE8 and z/9 Both are full of that which promotes growth. Runs fine. I'd believe we haven't tested it and it probably won't work in LPAR mode, but it runs fine under VM. David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates They is/are Novell. IBM have told me that the official Novell view is that sle8 will not run on z9 BC even under z/VM 5. I have not seen this for myself yet. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Command to determine guest cpu usage
I use the VM Toolkit RTM to monitor guest performance. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:08 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Command to determine guest cpu usage My z/VM Version 5.1 LPAR cpu usage is unusually high. I suspect that one of my Linux guest is going nuts. Is there a z/VM command that will lead me into the right direction? Thanks. Peter This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: NMAP
My SLES 8 guests running under ZVM V5.1 on a Z099 work fine. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Schweiker Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: NMAP I am not sure exactly what question to ask the list. NMAP fails to produce any results from any zseries Linux guest. Same 'failure' with different levels of Linux, NMAP and zVM. NMAP just says 'Host seems down.' I tried to bypass any network firewalling by recabling osa to an available router interface. Then I tried to NMAP from Linux guest to another Linux guest and it still fails. Ping, traceroute ,everything else seems to work fine. I did a 'tcpdump -v icpm' and did see two requests and responses to the nmap. Result for 'flags [none]'. Q. Is the tcpdump command above sufficient to see any errors? If I enter arp -v on the console, I get 0 entries. Q. Is this correct? Something i just read but may have misinterperated in Networking with Linux in zSeries was about layer2 and layer3 traffic can be transmitted over the same OSA CHPID, but not between two hosts sharing the same CHPID! Dont know if this applies to me for the NMAP test between Linux guests as valid? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Bad Linux backups
You are correct about the cacheing of filesystems. The clustered systems I referred to are DB2 Connect gateways and contain no shared filesystems. I will route all DB2C users through one gateway wile backing up the other. Then reverse positions. When both are done, bring them both online. For systems with active filesystems, they must be shut down and a SNAP taken. They can be brought up while the SNAP volumes are copied to tape. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Leslie Turriff Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:04 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups Well, I can see that clustering is a solution to the availability of a service while a host is shut down, but I don't see how it makes thinks any better in regards to backing up the filesystems used by the cluster. As long as any of the hosts in the cluster is using a filesystem in R/W mode there are going to be pieces of data cached in main memory that the filesystem doesn't know about, and that means that snapshots, etc. done from outside will not be valid. Seems like the base issue is that Linux doesn't do write-through cacheing, so the filesystem will almost never be valid to an outside observer (see also Schroedinger's cat). J. Leslie Turriff VM Systems Programmer Central Missouri State University Room 400 Ward Edwards Building Warrensburg MO 64093 660-543-4285 660-580-0523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/06 10:31 am From what I've seen, a lot of that information is usually kept in the user's browser via cookies or session cookies. For things that aren't, mirroring the data on separate physical devices, on separate controllers, etc., etc., provides the redundancy needed. The whole point of clustering is not to have _any_ single points of failure. That's why clustering an application is _at least_ two times more expensive than not clustering it. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfied Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:37 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups David Boyes wrote: I think Lea means: For cluster takeover to work seamlessly, your application has to keep session data in some common location between the servers. There's the point that has me: how do you backup that location? Is it something that, if it fails, you quickly find a new one and tell the PC buyer you had a technical problem and would they mind starting again? -- Cheers John -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 !DSPAM:32225,44ca2f9e88571098210962! -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Bad Linux backups
Funny thing testing! I tested it and it worked four times in a row. Then when I actually needed it, it failed. Thank you fuzzy backups! Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:13 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups On Wednesday, 07/26/2006 at 02:55 EST, J Leslie Turriff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that the majority of Linux applications (probably excepting database packages and such) rely on the filesystem to eventually get their data to disk without them doing anything besides open, write and close operations. And snap! the circle is closed. Hence this entire thread/rant about shutting down servers while you are flashcopying or otherwise performing external physical backups. If you know what you and the application are doing, take a live backup. If you don't, don't. If the application provides you with a set of backup functions, use them. Oh, and the point that actually started the whole thing: Test your backups. You should already be doing that in your DR tests, but if you change your processes, re-test. There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza ;-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Bad Linux backups
A piece of cake! Use VMUTIL on VM to do the shutdowns and startups and have the backups scheduled appropriately. Or get the CONTROL-M agent and have that do it all from ZOS. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfied Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:18 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups Stahr, Lea wrote: With clustering, you shut down one image and do an OFFLINE backup while the application runs on the second image. Then bring up the primary image and shutdown the secondary system for backup. which sounds every bit as tricky to me as getting good backups from a live Linux system. I'm negotiating purchase of a PC with your online retail shop and you take down the box I'm talking to while I'm negotiating PC options such as RAM, CPU, disk -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Bad Linux backups
FDR says working as designed. They back up the entire volume and restore the entire volume. I have restored 3 systems and they DO NOT BOOT. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfied Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:03 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups Stahr, Lea wrote: I run SuSE SLES 8 under ZVM 5.1 in an IFL. The DASD are in a SAN that is also accessed by ZOS. Backups are taken by ZOS using FDR full volume copies on Saturday morning (low usage). When I restore a backup, it will not boot. The backup and the restore have the same byte counts. Linux support at MainLine Systems tells me that he has seen this before at other customers. What is everyone using for Linux under ZVM backups? HELP! My backups are no good! What do the FDR suppliers say? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Bad Linux backups
All systems are clones of an original, so all device assignments in
Linux are the same across systems. Here is my ZIPL and FSTAB. I cannot
generate the error messages as I had to re-clone the system and get it
back online.
I was receiving errors on different filesystems and I ran FSCK's on
them, then received this abend in the kernel:
I restored the Linux volumes from the backup tapes and it will not come
up all the way. I switched tape sets with the same result. The kernel is
abending.
Unable to handle kernel pointer dereference at virtual kernel address
0c80
Oops: 0010
CPU:0Not tainted
Process find (pid: 497, task: 09804000, ksp: 09805940)
Krnl PSW : 07081000 8d020b96
Krnl GPRS: 09709a80 fffd2348 0c7fff79 6003
0c5c7570 d140 09a3e779 09a34300
b814a409 00643c03 0d14 6004
09a414b0 8d020864 8d020a54 09805c98
Krnl ACRS:
0001
Krnl Code: d2 ff 40 00 20 00 41 40 41 00 41 20 21 00 a7 16 ff f9 a7 15
Call Trace:
1Unable to handle kernel pointer dereference at virtual kernel
address 18
00
Oops: 0010
CPU:0Not tainted
Process find (pid: 497, task: 09804000, ksp: 09805940)
Krnl PSW : 07082000 800765aa
Krnl GPRS: 00a83f80 0002 1800 00c0
**
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cd /etc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc cat zipl.conf
# Generated by YaST2
[defaultboot]
default=ipl
[ipl]
target=/boot/zipl
image=/boot/kernel/image
ramdisk=/boot/initrd
parameters=dasd=0201-020f,0300-030f root=/dev/dasda1
[dumpdasd]
target=/boot/zipl
dumpto=/dev/dasd??
[dumptape]
target=/boot/zipl
dumpto=/dev/rtibm0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc cat fstab
/dev/dasda1 /reiserfs defaults
1 1
/dev/dasda2 /tmp ext2 defaults
1 2
/dev/dasdb1 /usr reiserfs defaults
1 2
/dev/dasdd1 /var reiserfs defaults
1 2
/dev/dasde1 /homereiserfs defaults
1 2
/dev/dasdf1 /user2 reiserfs defaults
1 2
/dev/dasdc1 swap swap pri=42
0 0
/dev/dasdd2 /opt/IBM reiserfs defaults
0 2
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5
0 0
proc /procproc defaults
0 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc
Lea Stahr
Sr. System Administrator
Linux/Unix Team
630-753-5445
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
James Melin
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:43 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups
I think I might have an idea as to where your problem MAY be - I'm
guessing at this point so I'd like you to fill in some blanks
Are your Linux guests device number consistent across Linuxen? As in,
/dev/dasdb1 is always device 601 and /{root file system} is 600, etc? Or
is it
on Linux A it's 600,601,602 etc and Linux B it's 400,401,402 etc? What
does your zipl.conf look like?
Also can you post any messages you get when you try to boot them?
Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject
Re:
Bad Linux backups
Please respond to
Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
FDR says working as designed. They back up the entire volume and restore
the entire volume. I have restored 3 systems and they DO NOT BOOT.
Lea Stahr
Sr. System Administrator
Linux/Unix Team
630-753-5445
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
John Summerfied
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:03 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups
Stahr, Lea wrote:
I run SuSE SLES 8 under ZVM 5.1 in an IFL. The DASD are in a SAN that
is
also accessed by ZOS. Backups are taken by ZOS using FDR full volume
copies on Saturday morning (low usage). When I restore a backup, it
will
not boot. The backup and the restore have the same byte counts. Linux
support at MainLine Systems tells me that he has seen this before at
other customers. What is everyone using for Linux under ZVM backups?
HELP! My backups are no good!
What do the FDR suppliers say?
--
Cheers
John
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Re: Bad Linux backups
Here is my FDR restore job step for a volume: //DISK5DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=VML061,DISP=OLD //TAPE5DD DSN=DRP.OPR.SOV.M3DMP.VML061(-3), //SUBSYS=SOV,DISP=SHR //SYSPRIN5 DD SYSOUT=* Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:50 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups Did you try the fdr from cyl / to cyl options on the backups? This sounds eerily familar to our label issue. Stahr, Lea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 07/25/2006 08:17 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [LINUX-390] Bad Linux backups FDR says working as designed. They back up the entire volume and restore the entire volume. I have restored 3 systems and they DO NOT BOOT. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfied Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:03 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups Stahr, Lea wrote: I run SuSE SLES 8 under ZVM 5.1 in an IFL. The DASD are in a SAN that is also accessed by ZOS. Backups are taken by ZOS using FDR full volume copies on Saturday morning (low usage). When I restore a backup, it will not boot. The backup and the restore have the same byte counts. Linux support at MainLine Systems tells me that he has seen this before at other customers. What is everyone using for Linux under ZVM backups? HELP! My backups are no good! What do the FDR suppliers say? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Bad Linux backups
Gentlemen, I must agree with the validity of external backups, but only when the Linux is down. Any backup taken internally OR externally while the system is running may not work due to extensive caching by the system itself and by the applications. If I cannot restore my application to a current state, then it's broken. And these were all either EXT3 or REISERFS. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:11 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups Therefore, dm-snapshot and flashcopy are two sides of the same medal once the entire filesystem is on a single dasd. That's a pretty large assumption, especially since the recommended wisdom for most advanced applications -- like DB/2 and WAS -- is *not* to put things like data and logs on the same filesystem for performance reasons. Given how quickly this can change in most real production systems, I don't have time or spare cycles to try to second-guess this, or make excuses when I miss backing up something important because someone didn't tell me that a change in data location was made. The point is, that data is considered stable at any time. That's a basic assumption which is true for ext3 and most applications. If you run a file system or an application that does have inconsistent data from time to time, you are in trouble in case of a power outage or system crash. I hope this is not the case in any production environment. With respect, I think this is an unrealistic expectation. I don't control the application programmers at IBM or S/AP or Oracle, etc. If you want to preach on proper application design to those folks, I'll happily supply amens from the pews, but out here in the real world, it ain't so, and it ain't gonna be so for a good long while (or at least until the current crop of programmers re-discover all the development validation model work that we did back in the 70s at PARC). We're faced with dealing with the world as it is, not as we'd like it to be, and that reality contradicts your assertion. The filesystem contents may be technically consistent, but if the applications disagree for *any* reason, then that doesn't help us at all given what we have to work with in the field. It's a goal to build toward, but for now, it's just that: a goal. With *today's* applications, you need a guaranteed valid state both from the application *and* filesystem standpoint, and to get that, you need to coordinate backups from both inside and outside the guest if you want to use facilities outside the guest to dump the data. How you do that coordination is what I think you're trying to argue and there, your points are extremely valid and useful; my point still stands that without coordination between Linux and whatever else you're using, you're not going to get the desired result, which is a no-exceptions way to handle backup and restore of critical data in the most efficient manner available. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Bad Linux backups
I run SuSE SLES 8 under ZVM 5.1 in an IFL. The DASD are in a SAN that is also accessed by ZOS. Backups are taken by ZOS using FDR full volume copies on Saturday morning (low usage). When I restore a backup, it will not boot. The backup and the restore have the same byte counts. Linux support at MainLine Systems tells me that he has seen this before at other customers. What is everyone using for Linux under ZVM backups? HELP! My backups are no good! Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Bad Linux backups
These are standard image systems that I can clone from a master and have in production in 2 hours. But what if its not standard? Then I have customizations that are lost. Lea Stahr Sr. System Administrator Linux/Unix Team 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:47 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Linux backups On 7/24/06, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It strikes me that file-level backups are generally a lot easier to work with, and use less archival media. File level backup is great for oops backup when you erased a few files and want them back. I am not sure whether you ever tried to restore the entire server from file level backups when you lost the disk. Typically you will need to re-install a new system and then restore your backups on top of that. Think about how that works for many servers at the same time (because it probably must be a major problem if you actually lost DASD). I have been involved in several attempts to recover a system from file level backup, but none worked like planned. Last one I remember we found TSM trying to restore the upgraded glibc over the vanilla install of SuSE. Once you start looking at it, you will find that many servers don't really have data that you need to backup. You might be better off with some tooling to quickly create a fresh server and some structure to manage any customizing you do on top of that. Which eventually leaves the servers that actually hold business data in some application, and you can look at the best way to deal with those applications. Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
