RE: installing RH 6.1, help!
Title: RE: installing RH 6.1, help! I have seen something like this on my old P100 with X4 CD-ROM drive, which perhups was not able to read so much and so fast because of the age. After i copied all the inst staff to hd it finished sucsessfully. === = Evgeny Popov = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = Water Management SCADA Centers Developer = = ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL SERVICES = = SUBSIDIARY OF MEKOROT WATER CO.LTD = i've being using slackware for some time but from some problams i've decided to check out RH, so i got RH 6.1 (thanx oded! ;) and i was facing with this install problam... i went for the Graphical installition but insted it puted me right in the text install, (oaky that i can handle!) i choose the custom install and went alone with the procsses after getting half done i was in the 'Reading packeges' stage, and then i got weird black messages on top of the install saying somthing like: 'signal -7 (i think) installation abnormall exitint install program, unmounting (blah..blah...blah) you can now safly restart' - i turned into the othere consoles but didnt found anything unusall that doest was there on the first place. i tried to install it again and the same thing happend. what's the reason for that weird thingie? and how can i avoid it? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Arie Vayner wrote: be an Official Mictosoft-Israel launch party in some hotel or Ganey Hataarukha, THAT's where we should arrive. armed with a few dozen laptops and folding tables outside the confference, greeting the people coming in :-) I'm afraid they would find a way to get us arrested! nope, and it's been done before... here's one such "tea party" I attended in person: http://www.scso.com/linux/tea-party-1998/ (your choice of PNG or the cursed monopolitic GIF format :) -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast "...very few phenomena can pull someone out of Deep Hack Mode, with two noted exceptions: being struck by lightning, or worse, your *computer* being struck by lightning." (By Matt Welsh) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux Demo Day 17.2
I'm afraid they would find a way to get us arrested! nope, and it's been done before... here's one such "tea party" I attended in person: http://www.scso.com/linux/tea-party-1998/ (your choice of PNG or the cursed monopolitic GIF format :) Actually it would be *better* to get arrested. Just think of the press: "Programmers get arrested for handing our free CD's" Just be sure to notify the press in advance. I'm sure that Geeks being pushed away by policemen looks great on paper :-) Chen Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Queen Isabella where are you today? The next Chris. Colombus is wasting away. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000, Chen Shapira wrote about "RE: Linux Demo Day 17.2": I'm afraid they would find a way to get us arrested! nope, and it's been done before... here's one such "tea party" I attended in person: http://www.scso.com/linux/tea-party-1998/ (your choice of PNG or the cursed monopolitic GIF format :) Actually it would be *better* to get arrested. Just think of the press: "Programmers get arrested for handing our free CD's" I hope you're joking... As much as I am a Linux fanatic, and a preacher of operating-system pluralism, it is *not* the time yet to take such actions against Microsoft. "direct action" and civil disobedience are not the way to fight companies like Microsoft - Microsoft is not evil *enough* yet, and is not (at least yet) doing direct harm to people (to other companies, maybe). If you're looking for reasons to get arrested for, I can point you to several grave injustices in Israel that need such actions more - but that's another subject altogether :) If you ask me, I think we (linux fans) should not be demonstration outside Microsoft conferences. What would you think if MS fans demonstrated outside Linux conferences? It's much better for us to try to explain to our friends collegue and people in positions of influence why Linux is better, instead of going to Microsoft conferences and trying to convert MS users. The former is pluralism, the latter is more like the Spanish Inquisition. -- Nadav Har'El| Monday, Jan 10 2000, 4 Shevat 5760 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |The 3 stages of sex: Tri-weekly, try http://nadav.harel.org.il |weekly, try weakly. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote: Actually it would be *better* to get arrested. Just think of the press: "Programmers get arrested for handing our free CD's" I hope you're joking... As much as I am a Linux fanatic, and a preacher of operating-system pluralism, it is *not* the time yet to take such actions against Microsoft. "direct action" and civil disobedience are not who talked about violance? I said "come with folding tables and laptops" not as tools for hitting people, but as a demo corner to show them hat they won't see inside, and give away free CDs. I'll write SuSE right away to send me a box of sample CDs. they are very happy to do so for such occasions :-) instead of going to Microsoft conferences and trying to convert MS users. The former is pluralism, the latter is more like the Spanish Inquisition. WOAH! I didn't expect the Spanish inquisition! -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast Why use Windows, since there is a door? (By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andre Fachat) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice modem + caller ID
Hi, Is there any full-featured and *customizable* voice mail + caller ID system for linux, supporting class 1 modems? (I've tried vgetty, but it doesn't work with my modem). I'm trying to make some complex scripting with my caller ID modem on my linux box... Thanks, Alon - if you cut here, you'll probably destroy your monitor -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I am otherwise nonexistent :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: voice modem + caller ID
mgetty? Hi, Is there any full-featured and *customizable* voice mail + caller ID system for linux, supporting class 1 modems? (I've tried vgetty, but it doesn't work with my modem). I'm trying to make some complex scripting with my caller ID modem on my linux box... Thanks, Alon - if you cut here, you'll probably destroy your monitor -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I am otherwise nonexistent :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000, Ira Abramov wrote about "Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2": On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote: Actually it would be *better* to get arrested. Just think of the press: "Programmers get arrested for handing our free CD's" I hope you're joking... As much as I am a Linux fanatic, and a preacher of operating-system pluralism, it is *not* the time yet to take such actions against Microsoft. "direct action" and civil disobedience are not who talked about violance? I said "come with folding tables and laptops" not as tools for hitting people, but as a demo corner to show them hat they won't see inside, and give away free CDs. If the police tells you to go away, and you don't, but rather wait to be arrested for the photographers to see, there'll be violence... Of course there shouldn't be any reason for the police to want to arrest you in the first place - I wasn't the one who brought up the idea to get arrested! To be on the safe side, you can even ask for a demonstration permit (but maybe if it's small enough you won't need one). Coming with CDs in your hand isn't much different than coming to a demonstration with signs in your hand. instead of going to Microsoft conferences and trying to convert MS users. The former is pluralism, the latter is more like the Spanish Inquisition. WOAH! I didn't expect the Spanish inquisition! Yes, "nobody expects the spanish inquisition" :) -- Nadav Har'El| Monday, Jan 10 2000, 4 Shevat 5760 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Sign seen in restaurant: We Reserve The http://nadav.harel.org.il |Right To Serve Refuse To Anyone! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2
NHE If you ask me, I think we (linux fans) should not be NHE demonstration outside Microsoft conferences. What would you NHE think if MS fans demonstrated outside Yeah, especially knowing the fact that Linux is *not* an alternative to Windows on the local market. There's still no descent Hebrew support, saying nothing about manuals, localisation and the stuff. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: Yeah, especially knowing the fact that Linux is *not* an alternative to Windows on the local market. There's still no descent Hebrew support, saying nothing about manuals, localisation and the stuff. we're talking about a match for the W2K server for now then, ofcourse we can't match the features of the Winslows98 or the (does)NT Work-station, Hebrew-Enabled GUI. -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast "It is easy to sympathize with the MIS staffs around the world, I mean who hasn't lost work due to Windows or a Microsoft application crashing?" -- Chris DiBona, happy he's been using Linux and can avoid such things, from the introduction. (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote: who talked about violance? I said "come with folding tables and laptops" not as tools for hitting people, but as a demo corner to show them what they won't see inside, and give away free CDs. If the police tells you to go away, and you don't, but rather wait to when did you call the police? at the SV Tea Party they came out and gave us coffee and cookies, very nice people :-) truth is, that the "Boston tea party" idea became pretty famous pretty fast, and after Slashdot publicised it, it got to the MS people too, they lurked on the mailing list of SVLUG to learn the meeting time and came to talk to us at the Pizzeria where everybody gathered before the event just to know who they are up against. it all turned out OK, got its spot in the Palo Alto Daily, and a tiny item in a big japanese paper, the equivelent of the WallStreet Journal. I think other places too... be arrested for the photographers to see, there'll be violence... Of course that's overstretched oriental imagionation! :-) users. The former is pluralism, the latter is more like the Spanish Inquisition. WOAH! I didn't expect the Spanish inquisition! Yes, "nobody expects the spanish inquisition" :) Our weapon is source! source and mindshare... nono... our TWO weapons are source and mindshare and a fanatical devotion to the Tux... no, our THREE oh hell, I'll come in again... -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast "On the Internet, no one knows you're using Windows NT" (Submitted by Ramiro Estrugo, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to build the boot loader for floppy-less PPC
Shalom Linux-IL, I am trying to find information on how to build on the host computer the boot loader for the target PPC. The target PPC does not have a floppy drive. Hope you have the answer. Thanks, George Shimanovich = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux Demo Day 17.2
since when is nt hebrew-enabled??? -Original Message- From: Ira Abramov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 23:21 Cc: Linux-IL Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2 On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: Yeah, especially knowing the fact that Linux is *not* an alternative to Windows on the local market. There's still no descent Hebrew support, saying nothing about manuals, localisation and the stuff. we're talking about a match for the W2K server for now then, ofcourse we can't match the features of the Winslows98 or the (does)NT Work-station, Hebrew-Enabled GUI. -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast "It is easy to sympathize with the MIS staffs around the world, I mean who hasn't lost work due to Windows or a Microsoft application crashing?" -- Chris DiBona, happy he's been using Linux and can avoid such things, from the introduction. (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux Demo Day 17.2
I hope you're joking... As much as I am a Linux fanatic, and a preacher I certainly am. or atleast getting carried away. of operating-system pluralism, it is *not* the time yet to take such actions against Microsoft. "direct action" and civil disobedience are not the way to fight companies like Microsoft - Microsoft is not evil *enough* yet, and is not (at least yet) doing direct harm to people (to other companies, maybe). Oh, they harm people alright, though indirectly. But I do agree that there are better ways to support free software than chaining ourselves to servers. If you're looking for reasons to get arrested for, I can point you to several grave injustices in Israel that need such actions more - but that's another subject altogether :) Yeah, and I do get arrested for them occasionaly :-) I do think that media coverage is important for any cause (from free speech to free software). If you ask me, I think we (linux fans) should not be demonstration outside Microsoft conferences. What would you think if MS fans demonstrated outside Linux conferences? Why, we'd convert them ofcourse! It's much better for us to try to explain to our friends collegue and people in positions of influence why Linux is better, instead of going to Microsoft conferences and trying to convert MS users. The former is pluralism, the latter is more like the Spanish Inquisition. Explaining linux to our supporters is masturbating. Which is exactly what linux-il is doing all too well, convincing the already convinced. Talking to ourselves and being happy with how good we are, this won't get us anywhere. The people who will be in the MS conference are IT managers and CTO's of big companies. Standing outside - not with signs but with CD's and laptops, and showing them that there's a free option. For this reason I suggest using redhat CD's - managers respect redhat. We should also print out marketing papers to hand out, and maybe a short installation and getting started guide to go with CD's. And those freelance consoltants of us can bring their business cards. Chen Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Queen Isabella where are you today? The new Chris. Colombus is wasting away. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux Demo Day 17.2
since when is nt hebrew-enabled??? Win2k is full unicode based. Complete with fonts bidi and other goodies. Chen Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Queen Isabella where are you today? The new Chris. Colombus is wasting away. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2
"El-al, Netta" wrote: since when is nt hebrew-enabled??? For more than a year now (I think even more than 1.5 years...) -- Arie Vayner [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Demo Day 17.2
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Chen Shapira wrote: "The founder of last year's Linux Demo Day, Intel employee Deepak Saxena, plans to use the publicity surrounding Windows' release to generate interest in the alternative operating system, Linux. Users will be encouraged to run presentations in local libraries, schools and at their workplaces on and around the day." We have a month to plan! 17.2 is Thursday, which makes it a pretty good day for an evening demo. first find out when the Israeli official launch is. I'm sure there will be an Official Mictosoft-Israel launch party in some hotel or Ganey Hataarukha, THAT's where we should arrive. armed with a few dozen laptops and folding tables outside the confference, greeting the people coming in :-) -- Ira Abramov ; whois:IA58 ; www.scso.com ; all around Linux enthusiast "...and scantily clad females, of course. Who cares if it's below zero outside" (By Linus Torvalds) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ace-users] Red Flag Linux (fwd)
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, 10:03 Guy Baruch wrote: GB I wonder who the worst opressor of costumer-choice is, GB microsoft or the goverment of china ? (note one of them does not shoot GB demonstrators, yet.) ITYM "consumer" choice. OK, did you actually *read* that? Or just heard about someone whose friend knows relative of someone who read this? It talks about chineese *government*, which has nothing to do with consumer choice - government is a (one) consumer itself, and it made it's choice already - for some reasons it's Linux. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ace-users] Red Flag Linux (fwd)
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Guy Baruch wrote:
I wonder who the worst opressor of costumer-choice is,
microsoft or the goverment of china ? (note one of them does not shoot
demonstrators, yet.)
in fact, when china's people will be able to choose for themselves
(which I hope is soon, like a decade or 2) will this lead to a backlash
against linux ?? or just against this "red-flag" govermental flavor ?
If an old chinese proverb was not "Take things into proportion", IMHO it
should be.
I fully appreciate the trendiness of being politically correct and the
loving hypeness of supporting the underdog. But if I read your post
correctly (and I fully apologize upfront if I misunderstood you), what you
are trying to say is "hey, those poor chinese guys should be free to use
Win2k if they so choose! Burn the Party leadership for saying otherwise!".
Now, let's see some assumptions:
* you assume the average Chinese government clerk is dying to use Win2k,
and those idiots up in their Politburo will be torturing them by imposing
Linux. Oh well, perhaps that's _one_way_ to imagine the world. And that
once they are relieved of the tirany of pork-and-penguin-soup, they will
stomp CompChina in search for the much-oppresed Win2k boxes. Now, that's
farfetched on a ny clear day, IMHO. American closed Micro$oft "technology",
or world open technology. In fact, who cares, what's the chief's special
down in the canteen today ?
* some poor bugger will have to maintain their user base. Hey, that guy
has actually a life and a brain, and got to the conclusion that managing
Linux (and what a name, Red Flag Linux. The US Navy/Air Force must be
laughing their flying socks off) woudl be actually easier and cheaper!
* Micro$oft points to China as the worlds largest pirate country. What a
nice way for the Chinese government to say "bugger off" without triggering
an international incident ("Microsoft's 6th Navy bombards Shangai with
shrink-wrapped Win2k boxes").
* Every enterprise is free to declare and ENFORCE its standards. A
government is, computer-base-wise, no diferent from a bank or other such.
They have all rights to use one systm and NOT another. ("Well, Mr. Xing
Ling, we wont be able to pay your family their dues, since we run Win2k
and the INS runs Linux and we don't talk to _that_kind of box").
* Every time the words "China", "government" and "ban" come together at
the same time, people jump at "Tianmen never more!". It helps to check out
what is being banned, context and timing.
just my 0.02,
--izar
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RE: [ace-users] Red Flag Linux (fwd) (and some ZIP-Drive side remarks)
* Micro$oft points to China as the worlds largest pirate
country. What a
nice way for the Chinese government to say "bugger off"
without triggering
an international incident ("Microsoft's 6th Navy bombards Shangai with
shrink-wrapped Win2k boxes").
At this rate Israel will move to linux RSN too :-)
Am I the only one tired of hearing microsoft sponsored ads on the radio
telling me not to help my friends (they call it pirating software)?
BTW.
I finally managed to install ZIP-Drive today and I a patch for the HOWTO
(probably offtopic here, but you might need it anyhow)
1. Parallel Port Zip requires the module Parport_pc, which doesn't load
automatically with PPA (ppa loads parport and parport_probe which don't
detect the zip)
2. As far as I know PPA module only works on old zipdrives, the new ones
require IMM (load it after loading parport_pc)
Chen Shapira
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The next Chris. Colombus is wasting away.
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Linux driver programmers are needed
Hi ! A successful start-up company is searching a Linux programmer with experience in drivers, for porting proprietary drivers from Windows. Very interesting, rewarding and challenging work. Mails/CV's to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Yoram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing RH 6.1, help!
i've being using slackware for some time but from some problams i've decided to check out RH, so i got RH 6.1 (thanx oded! ;) and i was facing with this install problam... i went for the Graphical installition but insted it puted me right in the text install, (oaky that i can handle!) i choose the custom install and went alone with the procsses after getting half done i was in the 'Reading packeges' stage, and then i got weird black messages on top of the install saying somthing like: 'signal -7 (i think) installation abnormall exitint install program, unmounting (blah..blah...blah) you can now safly restart' - i turned into the othere consoles but didnt found anything unusall that doest was there on the first place. i tried to install it again and the same thing happend. what's the reason for that weird thingie? and how can i avoid it? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenBSD
Not really linux realated... but if any one got OpenBSD (the latest, i forgot the excact num') and could burn me a copy, plz e-mail me yer address thanx. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ace-users] Red Flag Linux (fwd)
CS Am I the only one tired of hearing microsoft sponsored ads on the radio CS telling me not to help my friends (they call it pirating software)? I like the wording of "pirating software". Do you have a skull-and-bones flag already? A sword? Do you hang Windows resellers on the mast of your flagship? Or just rob them of all their CDs and release in a lone boat with single bottle of water? Is your teamleader one-eyed and one-legged? Does he own a parrot, which likes to curse? You know, to be a real pirate you have to comply... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hebrew-step - logical to broken visual
gk it is possible to get readable results even if there exists no gk logical-to-visual translation algorithm, by using various heouritics. Why there isn't? There exists pretty good official Unicode BiDi rendering algorithm. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote X windows
Hi Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I'm looking to put a Linux box at my work for the employees to learn Linux and use it from their Windows NT machines at work, and for me - from home.. I have tried VNC - but it seems that: 1. This program is not built to run for multiple users (you need to run for each one "vncserver") 2. It's SLOW - very slow over ISDN (64k) connection.. I've looked a bit for a solution which will: 1. Run an X enviroment on NT 2. Can be used with multiple connection (in other words - built for multi users) 3. Can connect over modem/ISDN line. So far I have found Starnet Xwin Hummingbird exceed .. Anyone here with experiment with one of those programs? are they easy to configure? other alternatives? 1. Concerning an XServer for windows - from what I heard, eXceed is the best (as others on the list said). I never used it, though. I used, for several years now, both Xoftware and eXcursion. Both were quite good, with few problems in each. Tell me if you want specifics, but I do suggest you test whatever you choose quite well before investing large amounts of money (and these things tend to be quite expensive). BTW, I think there is a free (shareware?) Xserver for win32, don't remember details, but look at windows archives. No Xserver for windows I ever tested became even near XFree under linux, especially in terms of performance - and that is understandable, becasue each graphic command passes 2 APIs (at least) - win32 and X. If one want's to make a fair comparison, one should probably compare Xnest under XFree and an Xserver under win32 - I didn't. I can add that I found linux on a 486 with 8 MB RAM to be quite a good Xterminal (for my purposes), and anything on win32 needed at least a Pentium 100 with 32 MB to come close. (I keep saying win32 becasue there are big differences between win95/98 and NT in this issue - do check your configuration). 2. Concerning the slow connection - as someone said, there is dxpc. I used it and it works. However, I think it is dead, for maybe 2 years, the reason (probably) being the addition of the (now standard) LBX (Low Bandwidth X) extension to X (see lbxproxy(1)). I don't know if it got all of dxpc's abilities. If you intend to make heavy use of it - check them both. In any case, it is going to be slow. The best compressor will achive probably 5 times compression, which will give you 300kbit/s bandwidth (max). I once checked the load of an Xterminal on a LAN, and got 100% load quite easily by iconifing and deiconifing a large window several times. On a LAN. (10mbit/s ethernet, only client+server+sniffer). Thanks -- Hetz Ben Hamo - Sys. Admin. - Intercomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Redmond, you have a problem.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps, didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Remote X windows
I don't know about performance on a slow connection wan, but PC-Xware from NCD works fine in local network. Try their site. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenBSD
Just finished downloading OpenBSD 2.6 (the latest version) for i386, but haven't burned a cd out of it yet. Contact me if you want a copy as well. On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:01:15 +0200 you wrote: Not really linux realated... but if any one got OpenBSD (the latest, i forgot the excact num') and could burn me a copy, plz e-mail me yer address thanx. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
