Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops
Quoting Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My guess (pure guesswork) is that IBM is the one offering the actual migration. Isn't IBM's preferred distro SuSE? The article at least talks about Mandrake. Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:54:21AM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My guess (pure guesswork) is that IBM is the one offering the actual migration. Isn't IBM's preferred distro SuSE? The article at least talks about Mandrake. SuSE and RedHat, according to what I know. However, I imagine that a sufficiently large customer will get whatever their heart desire. Even gentoo (cheap shot, sorry ;-)) Not speaking for big blue, Muli -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org | http://mulix.livejournal.com/ the nucleus of linux oscillates my world - [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
RE: Slow KDE?
If I recall correctly, the slocate is running among boot (maybe it is from cron daily). Anyhow, it scramble the disk when you most need it ... This e-mail message has been sent by Elbit Systems Ltd. and is for the use of the intended recipients only. The message may contain privileged or confidential information . If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any use, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited, and you are requested to delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify the sender immediately. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow KDE?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:35:07AM +0200, Iftach Hyams wrote: If I recall correctly, the slocate is running among boot (maybe it is from cron daily). Anyhow, it scramble the disk when you most need it ... It is run from the daily cron. Typically around 2-4 am. This should not interfere with normal usage. However there are some strange people that turn off their computer every night. Thus the daily cron jobs will not be executed. Others may dual-boot or simply nor run their linux systems for a while. In order for all of theose folks not to miss important cron jobs anacron was invented. It will run the missed jobs a couple of minutes after the end of the boot process. So it may run updatedb and similar intensive tasks not long after boot time. This is done in the background and a decently configured system it will remain responsive, but the user will probably notice the tasks. -- Tzafrir Cohen +---+ http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's best friend| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---+ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops
On Sunday 14 December 2003 10:25, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:54:21AM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My guess (pure guesswork) is that IBM is the one offering the actual migration. Isn't IBM's preferred distro SuSE? The article at least talks about Mandrake. SuSE and RedHat, according to what I know. However, I imagine that a sufficiently large customer will get whatever their heart desire. Even gentoo (cheap shot, sorry ;-)) AFAIK , RedHat, SuSE, Turbolinux and UnitedLinux Doron Not speaking for big blue, Muli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops
Herouth Maoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't IBM's preferred distro SuSE? The article at least talks about Mandrake. from the IBM-hat-off-head-speaking-for-myself-only department #include stddisclaimers.h (require 'std-disclaimers) // you get the drift - nothing I write below should be attributed to // my employer AFAIK IBM is officially distribution-agnostic. Major distros get certifications on IBM platforms (as Red Hat did recently - http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/34501.html), IBM works with them as partners, etc, but IBM has never preferred SuSE or Red Hat or anything else. You should also distinguish between officially supporting IBM products on this or that platform (check on a case-by-case basis, I would not be surprised if Red Hat and SuSE scored better than other distros based on this criterion, after all they produce advanced servers and enterprise editions) and providing general support services to customers. I imagine IGS (IBM Global Services) will support Mandrake if paid well enough. Hell, they'll do Windows, too... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:52:12AM +0200, doron wrote: AFAIK , RedHat, SuSE, Turbolinux and UnitedLinux Reference to IBM supporting the latter three? Cheers, Muli -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org | http://mulix.livejournal.com/ the nucleus of linux oscillates my world - [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:54:21AM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My guess (pure guesswork) is that IBM is the one offering the actual migration. Isn't IBM's preferred distro SuSE? The article at least talks about Mandrake. SuSE and RedHat, according to what I know. However, I imagine that a sufficiently large customer will get whatever their heart desire. Even gentoo (cheap shot, sorry ;-)) Continuing the parade of people not-speaking-for-IBM: IBM is a (very) big company, and it is not always clear that all its business units have the same preferences when it comes to Linux distributions. This might even make good sense - the distribution-of-choice when it comes to developer's workstations might not be the same as the distribution-of-choice when it comes to server installations. Even more so when it comes to Hebrew support (which is the issue discussed here) - if Mandrake has better Hebrew support (does it?) IBM might try to sell it to Israeli clients, despites Mandrake not being their favorite distribution in otheer areas. As most of you know, all modern Linux distributions basically include the same software packages (with small variations), so the choice is many times based on advantages in specific areas (e.g., which distribution has better out-of-the-box Hebrew support?) or on previous investment (has IBM already spent millions on tweaking Redhat, Suse, or whatever to their specific needs and don't want to repeat that on another distribution)? Also, keep in mind that the situation with Redhat isn't very clear now. Fedora is a good start, but being a seperate organization from Redhat, people will need to see several released made before they trust it (as in we can assume there will be new releases every 6 months, and base our buisness plan on this assumption) as much as they did Red Hat Linux. -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Dec 14 2003, 19 Kislev 5764 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Hindsight is always 20:20 http://nadav.harel.org.il | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow KDE?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:56:58AM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: maybe of topic but i was amazed how fast the linux was up after i installed gentoo ver 1.4 maybe 30% faster Is this start time? Can you compare it to a different distro on the same machine? Can you try to time different phases of the start process? I didn't checked it with a watch, but it seems much faster in every aspect. don't forget that: the OS was compiled from source to the cpu type I had control to what libraries I should compile in the package. and yes on the same machine I ran redhat previously. The only thing that bother me is how robust is the portage system, is it good enough to Servers ? ( I mean while updating, resolving dependencies ) Probably time will tell * the load of the kernel * initrd (if there is) * the initial rc scripts (comparable to rc.sysinit on redhat/mandrake and rcS.d on debian) * the current runlevel scripts * If the machine is a desktop: the desktop startup -- Tzafrir Cohen +---+ http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's best friend| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---+ -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops
14 2003, 12:09,Nadav Har'El: Even more so when it comes to Hebrew support (which is the issue discussed here) - if Mandrake has better Hebrew support (does it?) It does. mostly due to the efforts of several Israeli guys (I won't name names as I'm sure to forget some), Mandrake is AFAIK the most hebrew supporting distro around. If I'm not mistaken, its also the only distro that offers hebrew speaking installer (to some degree). -- Oded To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow KDE?
14 2003, 12:40,Ben-Nes Michael: The only thing that bother me is how robust is the portage system, is it good enough to Servers ? ( I mean while updating, resolving dependencies ) I don't think it will ever be - its geared towards source packages (I understand there is some support for binary only packages, but have never tried using them). as such it will always fall behind packaging systems designed to handle binary only packages, which is what you'd use for server installation, especially large scale installs. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to compile sources for each of my servers. even if we ignore the slowness of the process (several orders of magnitude slower then binary only install), compiling all packages from sources intoroduces a large amount of discrepancy between boxes that should be as identical as possible. this is not good for large or even medium scale installations. -- Oded To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: clarification
11 2003, 16:43,Oded Arbel: offering is based) being install by IBM in National Security offices across Sorry about the above mistake - just to make things clear, when I wrote National Security I actually meant Social Security - BITUACH LEUMI. -- Oded ::.. Any nitwit can understand computers. Many do. -- Ted Nelson To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pixelated output when exporting from Lyx to PDF
Hello all, Not too long ago I was still using Lyx version 1.2.x to write my technical papers. It used (as some of you must know) the xforms frontend. Now that I've migrated to a newer version of Linux (and KDE, etc...) I'm using the newer Lyx with the Qt frontend. Now, this shouldn't matter much when exporting documents but I think that *something* is not quite right in my Lyx installation. I haven't changed any important things. I still have the same heblatex/ivritex macros installed (heck I'm writing in english anyway :) What's weird is that before the upgrade, exporting using pdflatex produced really smooth-looking and beautiful PDF files and using export to PDF gave pixelated output. Now both produce pixelated PDF files and I've no clue as to why. What I want to do is basically find how to control the output. Are there any special configuration files used when conevrting from DVI to PDF ? Are there any issues with fonts I should be aware of ? No one seems to know.. Eli -- We can't afford to be innocent, Stand up and face the enemy, It's a do or die situation, We will be Invincible!! Invincible - The Legend of Billy Jean = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hebrew HTML Help: Bullets or Numbers in Lists appear at the right
Hi! In the document: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/rub-a-dub/rub-a-dub-dub-heb_final.html In Mozilla, the numbers and bullets of ol and ul lists appear at the far right of the screen. This is despite the fact that in Konqueror 3.1.x they appear fine, and that with simple pages (like http://www.mozilla.org.il/get-involved.shtml) they appear fine as well. I have no idea what is causing it. Both the body and the ol and ul tags have a dir=rtl attribute. This document was generated from an OpenOffice document, so something may be wrong there, but I tried everything I can think of. Can anybody tell me what to do? Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Writing a BitKeeper replacement is probably easier at this point than getting its license changed. Matt Mackall on OFTC.net #offtopic. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pixelated output when exporting from Lyx to PDF
It sounds like a problem related to Acrobat failure to show raster fonts very well. It can be solved if the vector fonts are embedded in the document file, as can be done in dvips -Ppdf file.dvi ps2pdf file.ps This problem might have raised its ugly head to to changing of your default fonts. -- Dan Kenigsberghttp://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~dankenICQ 162180901 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pixelated output when exporting from Lyx to PDF
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:44:11PM +0200, voguemaster wrote: Hello all, Not too long ago I was still using Lyx version 1.2.x to write my technical papers. It used (as some of you must know) the xforms frontend. Now that I've migrated to a newer version of Linux (and KDE, etc...) I'm using the newer Lyx with the Qt frontend. Now, this shouldn't matter much when exporting documents but I think that *something* is not quite right in my Lyx installation. I haven't changed any important things. I still have the same heblatex/ivritex macros installed (heck I'm writing in english anyway :) What's weird is that before the upgrade, exporting using pdflatex produced really smooth-looking and beautiful PDF files and using export to PDF gave pixelated output. Now both produce pixelated PDF files and I've no clue as to why. RTFM (Extended.lyx, the section on PDF export) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew HTML Help: Bullets or Numbers in Lists appear at the right
Vote for the bug: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140611 Guy On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 17:01, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi! In the document: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/rub-a-dub/rub-a-dub-dub-heb_final.html In Mozilla, the numbers and bullets of ol and ul lists appear at the far right of the screen. This is despite the fact that in Konqueror 3.1.x they appear fine, and that with simple pages (like http://www.mozilla.org.il/get-involved.shtml) they appear fine as well. I have no idea what is causing it. Both the body and the ol and ul tags have a dir=rtl attribute. This document was generated from an OpenOffice document, so something may be wrong there, but I tried everything I can think of. Can anybody tell me what to do? Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Writing a BitKeeper replacement is probably easier at this point than getting its license changed. Matt Mackall on OFTC.net #offtopic. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew HTML Help: Bullets or Numbers in Lists appear at the right
14 2003, 17:01,Shlomi Fish: Hi! In the document: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/rub-a-dub/rub-a-dub-dub-heb_final.html I have no idea what is causing it. Both the body and the ol and ul tags have a dir=rtl attribute. This document was generated from an OpenOffice document, so something may be wrong there, but I tried everything I can think of. The first thing to do is a minimal test case. it can be seen that it is the p tag contained directly inside the li tag that causes it. remove it or replace it with span and everything should work normally. -- Oded To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew HTML Help: Bullets or Numbers in Lists appear at the right
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Lior Kaplan wrote: Hi, 1. You don't need to write dir=rtl each time the one for the HTML/BODY tags is enough. 2. Notice you don't have Hebrew text, but weird chars in your source code. 3. You have tons of un-needed span/font tags. 4. (most important): if you remove the P tag inside you LI ones, you'll get 6. May I recommend XHTML and not HTML? Hey, don't look at me: this is the quirky HTML that Open Office generated. the numbers/bullets in the right side (right in our case). Thanks. It worked. 5. I'm attaching a fixed version of the HTML. But I think more work should be done. Perhaps, but I'll see what the recipient will say about it first. In any case, your HTML did not contain the UL,OL padding-right workaround, so I started from my last draft and applied the changes. Regards, Shlomi Fish Regards, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums - Original Message - From: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December14, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: Hebrew HTML Help: Bullets or Numbers in Lists appear at the right Hi! In the document: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/rub-a-dub/rub-a-dub-dub-heb_final.html In Mozilla, the numbers and bullets of ol and ul lists appear at the far right of the screen. This is despite the fact that in Konqueror 3.1.x they appear fine, and that with simple pages (like http://www.mozilla.org.il/get-involved.shtml) they appear fine as well. I haveno idea what is causing it. Both the body and the ol and ul tags have a dir=rtl attribute. This document was generated from an OpenOffice document, so something may be wrong there, but I tried everything I can think of. Can anybody tell me what to do? Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Writing aBitKeeper replacement is probably easier at this point than getting its license changed. Matt Mackall on OFTC.net #offtopic. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Writing a BitKeeper replacement is probably easier at this point than getting its license changed. Matt Mackall on OFTC.net #offtopic. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pixelated output when exporting from Lyx to PDF
Well, After reading the short but informative section and searching using Google and even trying to figure out what is going on manually from the files I think I understand the problem. According to the manual, Lyx uses the T1 encoding, and thus the newer EC fonts. I'm assuming that's because of the multilanguage support, right ? It can easily be verified using dvips. Here is the output (part of it): kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. dvips: Font ecrm1728 at 8000 not found; scaling 600 instead. dvips: Such scaling will generate extremely poor output. Exactly what is desribed in the manual. What I don't quite understand is why everything was fine with Lyx 1.2.x. I mean, what's the difference ? Lyx 1.2.x had multilanguage support as well. Did it not use the newer EC fonts and/or the T1 encoding ? So, adding the ae package is the only option (aside from using pslatex) ? Eli On Sunday 14 December 2003 06:16 pm, Dekel Tsur wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:44:11PM +0200, voguemaster wrote: Hello all, Not too long ago I was still using Lyx version 1.2.x to write my technical papers. It used (as some of you must know) the xforms frontend. Now that I've migrated to a newer version of Linux (and KDE, etc...) I'm using the newer Lyx with the Qt frontend. Now, this shouldn't matter much when exporting documents but I think that *something* is not quite right in my Lyx installation. I haven't changed any important things. I still have the same heblatex/ivritex macros installed (heck I'm writing in english anyway :) What's weird is that before the upgrade, exporting using pdflatex produced really smooth-looking and beautiful PDF files and using export to PDF gave pixelated output. Now both produce pixelated PDF files and I've no clue as to why. RTFM (Extended.lyx, the section on PDF export) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- We can't afford to be innocent, Stand up and face the enemy, It's a do or die situation, We will be Invincible!! Invincible - The Legend of Billy Jean = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew HTML Help: Bullets or Numbers in Lists appear at the right
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:01:00PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
In Mozilla, the numbers and bullets of ol and ul lists appear at the
far right of the screen. This is despite the fact that in Konqueror 3.1.x
Known bug. What's stopping its' resolution is that CSS doesn't define a
property for margin from start of line but only margin from
left/right. Thus, you cannot give ols and uls a direction-dependant
style.
Konqueror (KHTML) solves it by defining in its' html4.css file:
*[dir=rtl] UL,
*[dir=rtl] OL,
*[dir=rtl] DIR,
*[dir=rtl] MENU,
*[dir=rtl] DD {
margin-right:40px;
margin-left: auto;
}
but this is not entirely correct, since it ignores the possibility of
setting a direction with CSS property 'direction'. For example, it
won't catch this:
html style=direction:rtl
body
ul
lifoobar/li
/ul
/body
/html
On Linux.org.il, we also use a similar workaround in our stylesheet,
http://www.linux.org.il/main_style :
/* Due to limitations of CSS, I let it have margins on both sides :) */
ul, ol, dir, menu
{
margin-left:40px;
margin-right:40px;
padding-left:0px; /* Mozilla uses padding instead of margins */
padding-right:0px;
}
Just insert this style into your HTMLs and you'll be fine :)
they appear fine, and that with simple pages
(like http://www.mozilla.org.il/get-involved.shtml) they appear fine as
well.
See their persistent-style.css:
/*workaround for bug 74880 */
ul, ol, blockquote {
padding-right: 40px;
}
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Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:20:51PM +0200, Gil Freund wrote: Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: [snip[ AFAIK IBM is officially distribution-agnostic. Major distros get certifications on IBM platforms (as Red Hat did recently - http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/34501.html), IBM works with them as partners, etc, but IBM has never preferred SuSE or Red Hat or anything else. IBM offers binary packages in RPM only, although they are friendly enough for debian's alien to convert without major issues (on netfinity servers) That is such a broad, sweeping statement, that I'm not sure how to respond. Please qualify it as to say *which* products does IBM offer in binary only packages. I'm sure there are some, just as I'm sure there are some that are free software, with everything that entails. IBM is a big company. You should also distinguish between officially supporting IBM products on this or that platform (check on a case-by-case basis, I would not be surprised if Red Hat and SuSE scored better than other distros based on this criterion, after all they produce advanced servers and enterprise editions) and providing general support services to customers. I imagine IGS (IBM Global Services) will support Mandrake if paid well enough. Hell, they'll do Windows, too... But how well will they do it, and do they have the knowledge in house, or do they outsource it? They have the knowledge in house. std disclaimer: I don't get paid nearly enough to be speaking for big blue Cheers, Muli -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org | http://mulix.livejournal.com/ the nucleus of linux oscillates my world - [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Ynet: MoF considers using Linux (probably Mandrake) for desktops
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: [snip] That is such a broad, sweeping statement, that I'm not sure how to respond. Please qualify it as to say *which* products does IBM offer in binary only packages. I'm sure there are some, just as I'm sure there are some that are free software, with everything that entails. IBM is a big company. Packages provided in the Netfinity and X series server support download pages. [snip[ They have the knowledge in house. OK, more specifically, I am talking about IGS-Israel, not IBM. std disclaimer: I don't get paid nearly enough to be speaking for big blue Cheers, Muli -- = Gil Freund Sysnet consulting - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sysnet.co.il voice: +972-52-676906 Fax: +972-8-9356026 = = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Preapering a uml kernel the Debian way (?): rootstrap gets stuck
I am trying to build a root_fs with rootstrap. Yet rootstrap gets stuck after Mounted devfs on /dev and nothing seems to happen. All the processes seems to fall asleep. Pinging the tap0 interface works but not the uml side of the connection. No network traffic seems to take place, which is why I believe this is not a firewall issue. Any hints or URLs? What should occur after the mounting of the devfs? Any logs that were obtained with -o logFile for a similar settings will be appreciated. The rootstrap command was run from a screen session. This should make no difference, doesn't it? In addition, the machine has a 2.6 kernel while the kernel that the rootstrap boots is a 2.4 one. In case that last statement is making sense at all, it shouldn't have mattered, doesn't it? rootstrap configuration file is as follows: :: rootstrap.conf :: [global] fstype=ext2 initialsize=256 freespace=10 modules=network mkfs mount debian uml umount PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin [network] hostname=rootstrap interface=eth0 transport=daemon uml=192.168.1.22 netmask=255.255.255.252 control=/var/run/uml-utilities/uml_switch.ctl data=/var/run/uml-utilities/uml_switch.data gateway=192.168.1.21 nameserver=192.114.47.4 [debian] dist=woody mirror=http://http.us.debian.org/debian exclude=pcmcia-cs setserial purge=base-config console-common console-tools console-data console-tools-libs minstall=ssh [uml] install_modules=yes The log for the process, obtained with -o rootstrapLog, is: :: rootstrapLog :: Checking for the skas3 patch in the host...not found Checking for /proc/mm...not found Linux version 2.4.22-5um ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerel ease)) #1 Fri Sep 19 21:36:03 EDT 2003 On node 0 totalpages: 8192 zone(0): 8192 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Kernel command line: eth0=daemon,,,/var/run/uml-utilities/uml_switch.ctl con0=fd :0,fd:1 con=pty root=/dev/root rootflags=/ rootfstype=hostfs ubd1=root_fs init=/ usr/lib/rootstrap/builder devfs=mount rsworkdir=/tmp Calibrating delay loop... 33.28 BogoMIPS Memory: 28532k available Dentry cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Inode cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Buffer cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Checking for host processor cmov support...No Checking for host processor xmm support...No Checking that ptrace can change system call numbers...OK Checking that host ptys support output SIGIO...Yes Checking that host ptys support SIGIO on close...No, enabling workaround POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Initializing RT netlink socket Starting kswapd VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1 Journalled Block Device driver loaded devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) devfs: boot_options: 0x1 pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize loop: loaded (max 8 devices) Initializing Cryptographic API Initializing software serial port version 1 Netdevice 0 : daemon backend (uml_switch version 3) - unix:/var/run/uml-utilitie s/uml_switch.ctl mconsole (version 2) initialized on /home/shaul/.uml/K2Xg3o/mconsole Partition check: ubda: unknown partition table ubdb: unknown partition table Initializing stdio console driver NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 2048 bind 2048) Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. VFS: Mounted root (hostfs filesystem) readonly. Mounted devfs on /dev -- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw (sent by shaulk @ actcom . net . il) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Connecting Fedora Core to Cable Internet
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 08:56:13PM +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: route add default $GATEWAY /dev/null 21 Whoops, that should've been: route add default gw $GATEWAY /dev/null 21 That did the trick- thanks Ilya! Offer Kaye = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Preapering a uml kernel the Debian way (?): rootstrap gets stuck
I am trying to build a root_fs with rootstrap. Yet rootstrap gets stuck after Mounted devfs on /dev and nothing seems to happen. All the processes seems to fall asleep. Pinging the tap0 interface works but not the uml side of the connection. No network traffic seems to take place, which is why I believe this is not a firewall issue. Any hints or URLs? What should occur after the mounting of the devfs? Any logs that were obtained with -o logFile for a similar settings will be appreciated. From http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg02791.htm l: quote you've given root=/dev/ubd0, and VFS mounted it fine .. then fsck can't find /dev/ubd/0 ? It'd appear your image is configured to use devfs - mount your image with mount -o loop then edit /etc/fstab to use /dev/ubd0 instead of /dev/ubd/0 /quote Maybe relevent... Hope this helps, anyway. Regards, Offer Kaye = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
