RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
After Dr. Richard M. Stallman (RMS) cancelled his lecture at the University of Haifa I tried to arrange an alternative meeting hall for him. Like some other people I thought that all that was required was not an Israeli university or perhaps not a prominent symbol of the state. Yesterday (9-Jun-11) RMS sent me a response which indicates that there is an even bigger problem. According to him, the Palestinians' boycott is so strict that they object to [him giving lectures hosted by] all organizations except those that support the boycott. My opinion is that under such circumstances RMS should refuse to speak, or at least have a sudden and unavoidable scheduling conflict which necessitates cancelling his visit. If this really is the situation then I will not be searching for lecture halls for him and will not be attending his lectures either. Tom |--| |Tom Balazs |Haifa |tom123onl...@gmail.com |--| From: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org Date: Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 17:58 Subject: Re: Fwd: A Lecture Hall for a Talk by Dr. Richard Stallman, President of the Free Software Foundation To: Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com Cc: rms-ass...@gnu.org Our theater is very busy during the month of June, and the date you had mentioned wouldwnt work. My visit is in July, not June. Maybe that was misunderstanding. However, it seems that the Palestinians' boycott is so strict that they object to all organizations except those that support the boycott. I don't know whether they object if such an organization rents a hall. So I must charge the minimum cost of 750 N.I.S in order to be able to operate the Theater. How many dollars is that? I have no idea whether I have this much in my pocket. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
I think RMS does not have any intention of speaking, and is the OSS/FSF?GNU version of what is known as a cock-tease, though he seems more like a plain schmuck from a distance. He should not speak, nor even visit Israel. He should support freedom of expression in the west bank and Gaza by staying there. Personally, maybe each one of us should send the poor guy a nickel. Z. 2011/6/10 Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com After Dr. Richard M. Stallman (RMS) cancelled his lecture at the University of Haifa I tried to arrange an alternative meeting hall for him. Like some other people I thought that all that was required was not an Israeli university or perhaps not a prominent symbol of the state. Yesterday (9-Jun-11) RMS sent me a response which indicates that there is an even bigger problem. According to him, the Palestinians' boycott is so strict that they object to [him giving lectures hosted by] all organizations except those that support the boycott. My opinion is that under such circumstances RMS should refuse to speak, or at least have a sudden and unavoidable scheduling conflict which necessitates cancelling his visit. If this really is the situation then I will not be searching for lecture halls for him and will not be attending his lectures either. Tom |--| |Tom Balazs |Haifa |tom123onl...@gmail.com |--| From: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org Date: Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 17:58 Subject: Re: Fwd: A Lecture Hall for a Talk by Dr. Richard Stallman, President of the Free Software Foundation To: Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com Cc: rms-ass...@gnu.org Our theater is very busy during the month of June, and the date you had mentioned wouldwnt work. My visit is in July, not June. Maybe that was misunderstanding. However, it seems that the Palestinians' boycott is so strict that they object to all organizations except those that support the boycott. I don't know whether they object if such an organization rents a hall. So I must charge the minimum cost of 750 N.I.S in order to be able to operate the Theater. How many dollars is that? I have no idea whether I have this much in my pocket. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
One can think of a few action plans: 1. Who cares? RMS is known to be somewhat awkward, and his behavior of hey I'm coming, oh, I'm coming only if it is not a univ., oh, wait a second, I cannot come unless this is the boycott offices in Israel, does not add to him much. The advantage of this approach is that we do not need to do nothing. Main problem: This alienates both RMS (which will happen anyway) and the Israeli FOSS community (there is a reason you will never ever ever hear Bill Gates saying something of this form). 2. Boycotting RMS until he apologizes for this behaviour. Advantage: we take a zionist stand point, proving to the Israeli public that we do not share the view point of RMS. Dis-advantage: seriously, are we 4-year olds playing Chilba's? 3. Start sending RMS personal emails - won't work. It did not work before, won't work now. I would avoid sending nickels. The guy did not hear google answers queries of the form 750 ILS in USD. 4. Approaching FSF and explain our problem with this type of behavior. Explaining to FSF that they lose face in this instance. (do note that 4 is independent of 1,2, and 3). 2011/6/10 Steve G. word...@gmail.com: I think RMS does not have any intention of speaking, and is the OSS/FSF?GNU version of what is known as a cock-tease, though he seems more like a plain schmuck from a distance. He should not speak, nor even visit Israel. He should support freedom of expression in the west bank and Gaza by staying there. Personally, maybe each one of us should send the poor guy a nickel. Z. 2011/6/10 Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com After Dr. Richard M. Stallman (RMS) cancelled his lecture at the University of Haifa I tried to arrange an alternative meeting hall for him. Like some other people I thought that all that was required was not an Israeli university or perhaps not a prominent symbol of the state. Yesterday (9-Jun-11) RMS sent me a response which indicates that there is an even bigger problem. According to him, the Palestinians' boycott is so strict that they object to [him giving lectures hosted by] all organizations except those that support the boycott. My opinion is that under such circumstances RMS should refuse to speak, or at least have a sudden and unavoidable scheduling conflict which necessitates cancelling his visit. If this really is the situation then I will not be searching for lecture halls for him and will not be attending his lectures either. Tom |--| | Tom Balazs | Haifa | tom123onl...@gmail.com |--| From: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org Date: Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 17:58 Subject: Re: Fwd: A Lecture Hall for a Talk by Dr. Richard Stallman, President of the Free Software Foundation To: Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com Cc: rms-ass...@gnu.org Our theater is very busy during the month of June, and the date you had mentioned wouldwnt work. My visit is in July, not June. Maybe that was misunderstanding. However, it seems that the Palestinians' boycott is so strict that they object to all organizations except those that support the boycott. I don't know whether they object if such an organization rents a hall. So I must charge the minimum cost of 750 N.I.S in order to be able to operate the Theater. How many dollars is that? I have no idea whether I have this much in my pocket. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Orr Dunkelman, orr.dunkel...@gmail.com GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to o...@vipe.technion.ac.il) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
An alternative to Skype
Hi people, I saw Richard Stallman's signature: Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ I'm using Skype to communicate with my friends. I mostly use it for instant messaging (not phone calls). I did use it for phone calls in the past, but I don't have a microphone attached to my computer - so today I use regular phone (018). When I used Skype for phone calls, I paid Skype for Skype out credit, but Skype zeroed my credit after a few months of not using their service - which I consider stealing money from me. For all that reasons, I don't want to use Skype. But Skype is a monopoly - all my friends use it. Even my grandmother wants to start using it. What free alternatives are there to Skype? (free as in freedom of course). By the way, what do you think about Google talk? I use Google talk from my Gmail account (I didn't download the software). I'm using Windows XP on PC. And Google Chrome as my browser. Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
On Friday 10 June 2011 at 16:35:43 (GMT+2) Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com wrote: After Dr. Richard M. Stallman (RMS) cancelled his lecture at the University of Haifa I tried to arrange an alternative meeting hall for him. Like some other people I thought that all that was required was not an Israeli university or perhaps not a prominent symbol of the state. Yesterday (9-Jun-11) RMS sent me a response which indicates that there is an even bigger problem. According to him, the Palestinians' boycott is so strict that they object to [him giving lectures hosted by] all organizations except those that support the boycott. My opinion is that under such circumstances RMS should refuse to speak, or at least have a sudden and unavoidable scheduling conflict which necessitates cancelling his visit. If this really is the situation then I will not be searching for lecture halls for him and will not be attending his lectures either. Tom Since Mr Stallman had so little sense as to assent to inflicting even the earlier (milder) boycott rules on talks in Israel, it was scandalous for the local organizatiton to even consider seeking kosher venues for him. It's unfortunate that it took the revelation of the REAL rules to cause Israelis to realize what was being done to them. The mind boggles at the notion that hostile organizations might be able to induce an Israeli organization to accept any kind of boycott of Israel, and thereby to seem to justify it. Aside from which Mr Stallman's adventure into politics do him no credit. |--| | |Tom Balazs |Haifa |tom123onl...@gmail.com | |--| From: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org Date: Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 17:58 Subject: Re: Fwd: A Lecture Hall for a Talk by Dr. Richard Stallman, President of the Free Software Foundation To: Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com Cc: rms-ass...@gnu.org Our theater is very busy during the month of June, and the date you had mentioned wouldwnt work. My visit is in July, not June. Maybe that was misunderstanding. However, it seems that the Palestinians' boycott is so strict that they object to all organizations except those that support the boycott. I don't know whether they object if such an organization rents a hall. So I must charge the minimum cost of 750 N.I.S in order to be able to operate the Theater. How many dollars is that? I have no idea whether I have this much in my pocket. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: An alternative to Skype
By logging in to their site, you can reactivate your credits. Ez 2011/6/10 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I saw Richard Stallman's signature: Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ I'm using Skype to communicate with my friends. I mostly use it for instant messaging (not phone calls). I did use it for phone calls in the past, but I don't have a microphone attached to my computer - so today I use regular phone (018). When I used Skype for phone calls, I paid Skype for Skype out credit, but Skype zeroed my credit after a few months of not using their service - which I consider stealing money from me. For all that reasons, I don't want to use Skype. But Skype is a monopoly - all my friends use it. Even my grandmother wants to start using it. What free alternatives are there to Skype? (free as in freedom of course). By the way, what do you think about Google talk? I use Google talk from my Gmail account (I didn't download the software). I'm using Windows XP on PC. And Google Chrome as my browser. Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: An alternative to Skype
there are many alternatives, like XMPP. if you need skype compatibility though there is less choice: mainly you can use imo.im. There is also a plugin for Miranda IM (FOSS) that uses imo.im as a skype proxy. 2011/6/10 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il By logging in to their site, you can reactivate your credits. Ez 2011/6/10 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I saw Richard Stallman's signature: Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ I'm using Skype to communicate with my friends. I mostly use it for instant messaging (not phone calls). I did use it for phone calls in the past, but I don't have a microphone attached to my computer - so today I use regular phone (018). When I used Skype for phone calls, I paid Skype for Skype out credit, but Skype zeroed my credit after a few months of not using their service - which I consider stealing money from me. For all that reasons, I don't want to use Skype. But Skype is a monopoly - all my friends use it. Even my grandmother wants to start using it. What free alternatives are there to Skype? (free as in freedom of course). By the way, what do you think about Google talk? I use Google talk from my Gmail account (I didn't download the software). I'm using Windows XP on PC. And Google Chrome as my browser. Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: An alternative to Skype
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 05:35:56PM +0300, Evyatar Parker wrote: there are many alternatives, like XMPP. if you need skype compatibility though there is less choice: mainly you can use imo.im. There is also a plugin for Miranda IM (FOSS) that uses imo.im as a skype proxy. What's your XMPP number? (Feel free to send it in private if you don't want to send it in public mail). Can I call you (well, maybe not now, but tommorow or on Motzaey Shabat)? -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best tzaf...@debian.org|| friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
[a whole pile of claptrap, including previously written and quoted claptrap, snipped] People, RMS (as well as any other person) is entitled to support, adhere, acquiesce or abhor, deny, etc any and all BDS activities. (Some of) Your moral outrage is not a whit less ridiculous that agreement. The man is entitled to his opinion and choice. It is his right as a man and as a public figure. Those of you gnashing your teeth - please open YouTube and type פלדרמאוס באולימפיאדה. Enough! ---MAV Marc A Volovic marcvolo...@me.com +972-54-467-6764 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Joomla in Israel
Hi I'm following the the Hebrew Wikipedia article for Joomla: http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%92%27%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%94 Recently most of the updates there were an edit war regarding the external link to Joomla in Israel. It seems that there's a shiny new http://joomla.org.il , in addition to the older http://joomla.co.il . I'm not really familiar with any of those two, so I don't feel confident enough to delete either links. Sadly nobody who knows more about it bothered clarifying the issue or writing more about this. So at this point I figured I'll just ask the question here: could anybody write a bit about Joomla in Israel? -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best tzaf...@debian.org|| friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Joomla in Israel
Hi Tzafrir, AFAIK, the Joomla community in Israel had a split (represented by the move from joomla.co.il to joomla.org.il). From the contact I have in this community the relevant site is the org.il Looking at the wiki page, the user Oc666 is one of the joomla.org.il people, and I think his edits can (and should) be trusted. Looking at his other contributions to wikipedia shows that he is consistent with contributing. Kaplan On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote: Hi I'm following the the Hebrew Wikipedia article for Joomla: http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%92%27%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%94 Recently most of the updates there were an edit war regarding the external link to Joomla in Israel. It seems that there's a shiny new http://joomla.org.il , in addition to the older http://joomla.co.il . I'm not really familiar with any of those two, so I don't feel confident enough to delete either links. Sadly nobody who knows more about it bothered clarifying the issue or writing more about this. So at this point I figured I'll just ask the question here: could anybody write a bit about Joomla in Israel? -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best tzaf...@debian.org|| friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: An alternative to Skype
If you want computer to computer, there are plenty of chat clients that would work - Jabber, msn, aol, yahoo, I think all have voice and video communications in them. Gmail is another excellent system. The problem is the network effect - both sides must be part of the system. To make phone calls, other than skype there is ekiga and probably some other things, as well as gmail, but these are not free. Personally, whatever RMS puts on his web site, is what I will NOT be using in the future. Even if it means I have to buy MS OS, though considering that practically all laptop computers have MS on them, I doubt it would be an issue. I have been a devout proponent of OSS solutions for many years, but there is something to be said for for-profit software - you are not dependent on RMS and his likes. A real company supports its product regardless of politics. Go Proprietary Software! Z. CC to RMS. 2011/6/10 Evyatar Parker evp55...@gmail.com there are many alternatives, like XMPP. if you need skype compatibility though there is less choice: mainly you can use imo.im. There is also a plugin for Miranda IM (FOSS) that uses imo.im as a skype proxy. 2011/6/10 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il By logging in to their site, you can reactivate your credits. Ez 2011/6/10 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net Hi people, I saw Richard Stallman's signature: Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ I'm using Skype to communicate with my friends. I mostly use it for instant messaging (not phone calls). I did use it for phone calls in the past, but I don't have a microphone attached to my computer - so today I use regular phone (018). When I used Skype for phone calls, I paid Skype for Skype out credit, but Skype zeroed my credit after a few months of not using their service - which I consider stealing money from me. For all that reasons, I don't want to use Skype. But Skype is a monopoly - all my friends use it. Even my grandmother wants to start using it. What free alternatives are there to Skype? (free as in freedom of course). By the way, what do you think about Google talk? I use Google talk from my Gmail account (I didn't download the software). I'm using Windows XP on PC. And Google Chrome as my browser. Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
I am not worried about his opinion, but his support of a boycott of Israel, and the fact that I have to rely on him for support of products I use. As far as I am concerned, my present view (after RMS and Mint) is that OSS is something to support as long as there is a commercial alternative. If in the past I was hoping to see MS and other commercial vendors marginalized, I now think they should continue to be the leading solution providers, and OSS should be used alongside, with the caveat that it is not reliable and future proof. OSS is only one of many options to weigh and use. Z. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com wrote: [a whole pile of claptrap, including previously written and quoted claptrap, snipped] People, RMS (as well as any other person) is entitled to support, adhere, acquiesce or abhor, deny, etc any and all BDS activities. (Some of) Your moral outrage is not a whit less ridiculous that agreement. The man is entitled to his opinion and choice. It is his right as a man and as a public figure. Those of you gnashing your teeth - please open YouTube and type פלדרמאוס באולימפיאדה. Enough! ---MAV Marc A Volovic marcvolo...@me.com +972-54-467-6764 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: An alternative to Skype
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 17:07, Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.ilwrote: By logging in to their site, you can reactivate your credits. I tried, but they are thieves. I can't reactivate my credits: Reactivate Skype Credit *Your Balance* €0,00 You do not have any Skype Credit to reactivate. Back https://secure.skype.com/account/ Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
Dear Stan, You are, indeed, entitled to as much freedom and opportunity to BDS Israel for its criminal policies and proclivities. You are, indeed, entitled to as much freedom and opportunity to BDS RMS and others for their BDS'ing Israel. Just, please, try to do so without speechifying with a tearful whine. THAT makes it tiresome AND defeats your purpose. Haven't the Jewish People suffered enough!? is, of course, a tremendous moral fillip, but u... rather :-) is ridiculous. You know - something about tears and crocodiles. M On Jun 11, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Stan Goodman wrote: On Saturday 11 June 2011 at 01:47:50 (GMT+2) Marc Volovic I understand. Stallman is entitled to express his opinion, but I am not entitled to express mine because he is a public figure. ---MAV Marc A Volovic marcvolo...@me.com +972-54-467-6764 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
Ah, Dear Stan, how appropriate and typical to your line of argumentation. Hail! You are a true representative of your cause. M On Jun 11, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Stan Goodman wrote: On Saturday 11 June 2011 at 06:30:36 (GMT+2) Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com wrote: Dear Stan, You are, indeed, entitled to as much freedom and opportunity to BDS Israel for its criminal policies and proclivities. You are, indeed, Go pound salt. ---MAV Marc A Volovic marcvolo...@me.com +972-54-467-6764 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
