Re: undeterministic zip?
Ira Abramov wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum 484497aa0d7e1bb391a73cc8b42acce2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum 552bbc02b0b2b5b142a425d476f0d5c0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum 792afdaf2be839dfccc1c91dfd4f726b - what the fsck is going on?! is gzip adding some odd time stamp or something?! Indeed. Seems to be fixed with gzip -n $ tar cf - directory | gzip -n | md5sum 59d0f9e8ae05efbd55039010c3461878 *- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ tar cf - directory | gzip -n | md5sum 59d0f9e8ae05efbd55039010c3461878 *- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ tar cf - directory | gzip -n | md5sum 59d0f9e8ae05efbd55039010c3461878 *- (sorry for the w2k thingy) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: K8 upgrade path?
Ira Abramov wrote: maybe I have a general problem with memory management? it sometimes also takes 5-6 seconds for vim to allocate and run when forked (usually from within mutt...) I once had a slow loading vim, and fixed it by with vim -X. Didn't have anything to do with memory though. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fork on windows?
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
That's not entirely accurate. fork() is several things, including a
POSIX API (specification) and a system call implementation. There's
nothing that says you can't implement a fork() wrapper on windows that
will conform to the fork API while being implemented using windows
APIs internally.
That is not to say I have any idea what cygwin/mingw actually do.
---
I just tested the following in cygwin:
it compiles, and printf hello twice :)
(even without includes)
int main(){
fork();
printf(hello\n);
return 0;
}
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Re: Offline folders
Tal Achituv wrote: I once saw a GNU program that synced directories, and I recall it was quite powerful (I read about it somewhere, never used it before). How do you guys keep the same folder both on your laptop and on your desktop? (Preferably cross-platform solutions... and conflict resolution (or at least detection) is a must) have a look at unison. it is cross platform, and synchronizes two directories = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Digital Camera
Dan Kenigsberg wrote: BTW: I am running Mandrake 9.2 (Kernel 2.4.22-28) on a Compaq Presario 2540 EA Laptop. $ gphoto2 --list-cameras |grep Canon |grep A70 Canon PowerShot A70 Canon PowerShot A70 (PTP) So you would be able to read your photos from Linux. [OFFTOPIC:] I have that model, and I'm happy with it, it works without problem on my computer. I also use ghpoto2 to download fotos to the computer. It would have been even nicer if the camera had a usb mass storage interface (so that I wouldn't have to install gphoto in the first place, so I could read it from 'any' computer without installing software first, and so I would be also able to write file *to* the camera. But it isn't important. What I liked about the camera is that it has room for 4 batteries (and it works with rechargebles ones) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bidirectional file transfer software?
guy keren wrote: i am looking for a file-transfer program (for linux), which can run one upload and one download simultaneously, on a _single_ TCP connection (sort of the TCP equivalent of the BModem protocol used on BBS-es years ago). i assume this will need to be a client+server application (since standard file transfer protocols such as ftp are not 'full-duplex' in this sense). The SFTP protocol (see OpenSSH, /usr/bin/sftp) works over a single connection, and it lets you do anything (filesystem related) simultanously. uploading and downloading for example. Note that the protocol probably supports all your needs, but maybe the commandline utility doesn't.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Discountbank.net web site
Alex Gontmakher wrote: Hi everybody, If anybody of you have tried to access the Discountbank.net web site (for online account access), you would surely notice that it accepts connections originated from Internet Explorer only. That's quite a problem for Linux users - it wouldn't even try to communicate with Mozilla ;-(. .. So, if you want to get this site, and probably others, to work with Mozilla browsers, write me and we'll roll this on! Count me in too. I also wrote to them a long time ago, and got a polite but negative answer. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux compatible online maps site?
On 2003-09-25 Ittay Dror wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 16:27, Alon Barzilai wrote: hi, try emap ( http://www.emap.co.il ) It works for me with mozilla 1.4. upgraded to the latest mozilla and emap (still) doesn't work for me. afaik there's a problem in flash-javascript interaction in mozilla. For me it works (Thanks for the links :) - Mozilla 1.4 (Gecko/20030624) - Shockwave Flash 5.0 r47 - Java(TM) Plug-in Blackdown-1.4.1-01 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk errors.
On 2003-09-21 David Harel wrote:
All errors were of the type: { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
What is your estimation on the severeness of those errors, what is your
recommendation to treat them and which tools do you recommend to fix the
problems.
My uneducated opinion is that it's a bad sign, and that you should
think of replacing your hard drive, or at least make regular
backups.. I had such errors a long time ago, and I think that
crashes I had at the time were caused by it. (I think the kernel
doesn't (want to) guarantee stability once the hardware fails at
such a level. can anyone correct me please if I'm wrong?).
eventually (months later, maybe) my HD stopped working and I
replaced it.
BTW, I see similar errors on my cdrom sometimes, but I guess those
are errors of a particular cdrom, and not of the drive, so I don't
worry about them.
Good luck :)
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Re: partially OT: linux vcr
On 2003-09-02 Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:05, Erez Doron wrote: hey I'm looking into building a linux vcr (i will probably use it also as a server/router/desktop). the software right now is not the issue, the hardware is. the hardware should be: 1. small pc, size of a Set-Top-Box ( = 'memir' ) 2. very quiet. so i can sleep with it working in the same room. 3. input tuner 4. video out 5. remote control (not too expensive, available in tel-aviv area) important: all must be supported by linux. Yout need one of those nifty mini-ITX based systems, like this one: http://www.mini-box.com/m100.htm There are others which are cheaper, btw. But I forgot where I saw them. Or maybe a laptop? They can be relatively quit as well. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Script refresh
On 2003-08-15 Tzahi Fadida wrote: i use an when calling these scripts from the main script. i don't know, maybe they are refreshed and there is some other problem: could it be that if i open a file for reading and don't close it and even if this subscript is finished, because it was run in the context of the parent script then the inode is still linked? Maybe you should post a small reproducable example script. (Since you mention the '', maybe it's old instances of the script that are still running??) I don't know how your script works, but if have a script that calls /your/perl/script.pl every 15 seconds, then if you modify your perl script, the modified version will be executed the next time.. try running this script: echo hi /tmp/foobar while true; do cat /tmp/foobar; sleep 1; done and while it is running, modify the /tmp/foobar file. you will see that the new content is seen.. no file cacheing, no magic. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: something to print
On 2003-07-24 Nadav Har'El wrote: Believe it or not, but wearing sandals *with* socks is actually quite common in the US... Also in the Netherlands.. (at least I did, as a kid ;) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disk on key
On 2003-07-06 Meir Michanie wrote: I have a 8mg diskonkey. It came with several partitions, the one for storage was /dev/sda4 run fdisk -l /dev/sda to see the partitions structure. then try mounting /dev/sda[1,2,3,4,...] My 64MB memory bar came with several partitions, but nothing seemed to work. I erased everything and created my own partitions with fdisk, and then formatted them with mk*fs. Also I recompiled my kernel with support for ide-scsi and USB mass storage. (I usually prefer recompiling over dealing with modules..) After that it worked nicely. BTW, when I tried to use it in knoppix it hanged the OS.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: API for reading M$ word documents on Linux???
On 2003-07-06 Ron Gidron wrote: Is there an API out there, ideally I would like to call it from Perl, that can help me grep for keywords on Microsoft word documents? Maybe try 'antiword'. It's a commandline utility that reads a m$word file as input, and creates a nice ascii text file as output. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cross platform code
On 2003-07-03 Voguemaster wrote: The problem is very basic: Linux and Win32 have different include files for some things and placing #include directives inside #ifdef doesn't do the trick (it nullifies the #ifdef possibly ?). What exactly is not working? For me it always worked just fine like this: #ifdef WIN32 #include windoze.h #else #include unistd.h #endif = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maximum file size on IA32
On 2003-06-25 Honen, Oren wrote: Hi, I'm using a graphical application on 32bit RH Linux. The user saved files are getting larger and larger. Currently the largest file is at about 2GB . The vendor of the application says that larger files will require the 64bit version which he doesn't have on Linux. The files are saved on NFS. I know changing ext2 block size can enable you to save larger files than 2G so their answer doesn't sound reasonable. Beside, even if they had I have a 5.4G file on an ext2 filesystem, no special block size was needed. Not that it proves anything. I'll first have to read the links from Muli's post. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Captain Learns Linux
On 2003-06-22 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: - I use xterm -fn 8x13. (well actually, I added XTerm*font1: heb8x13 to my .Xresources, and now when I choose the xterm 'Unreadable' font from the xterm menu, I get the hebrew font :) XTerm*fontMenu*font1*Label: ReadableHebrew Ah, thanks, that is even better :) (I'm not exactly sure how these X resources work, I glanced at the xterm manpage and came up with XTerm*font1, but I couldn't figure out how to change the name of the font as your example does) Now, if I could change the xterm font with my keyboard instead of going to the fontMenu with my mouse, it would be even cooler.. - I added LESSCHARSET=latin1 to my environment (otherwise less refused to show the non-ascii characters) Because you refuse to let your environment include Hebrew characters. Ok, I get your point now. When I do export LC_ALL=he_IL, less works fine without needing the LESSCHARSET thing. How about typing Hebrew in anything but vim? (Actually, with most program nowadays: mozilla, QT/KDE = 2, gtk =2, OpenOffice, this is no longer an issue. Still Hebrew environment vars are a good hint to sane programs defaults, e.g: fonts of gtk programs) I wonder why that is so. does it mean that the locale thing is being deprecated, or are all those programs wrong ignoring the locale? (probably this is a stupid question anyway, because I'm too ignorant of these topics, please don't bother to answer :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Captain Learns Linux
- I added LESSCHARSET=latin1 to my environment (otherwise less refused to show the non-ascii characters) Because you refuse to let your environment include Hebrew characters. Ok, I get your point now. When I do export LC_ALL=he_IL, less works fine without needing the LESSCHARSET thing. hmm.. LC_ALL=he_IL is too much.. I don't want to see hebrew in the output of ls -l :) I'll try export LC_CTYPE=he_IL for a while = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Captain Learns Linux
On 2003-06-19 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 11:57:52AM +0300, Christoph Bugel wrote: Naturally, I wanted to write my email in *hebrew*. I must admit that I didn't know how to do this in my favorite email client: xterm+mutt+vim, Need help? (If so: in what environment do you work, and what is the output of 'locale'?) Thanks, I got some tips from Dan Kenigsberg and now I have the basic stuff working :) Thanks! summary: - I use xterm -fn 8x13. (well actually, I added XTerm*font1: heb8x13 to my .Xresources, and now when I choose the xterm 'Unreadable' font from the xterm menu, I get the hebrew font :) - I recompiled vim with rightleft support - I added LESSCHARSET=latin1 to my environment (otherwise less refused to show the non-ascii characters) - for some reason I had :set encoding=utf8 in my .vimrc -- had to remove that for vim to show hebrew ... - added a mapping in vim: map F12 :set invrl invhk - added another mapping to filter all vim text through bidiv.. - addded to .muttrc set charset=iso-8859-8-i BTW, my locale is still C and the above works fine. Is there a good reason to chanmge it to something else? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linux laptop / windows refund?
Hi, I am planning to buy a laptop soon, and I will install linux on it. Unfortunately it seems to be impossible to buy a brand-name laptop that doesn't come with windows. This means that I am being forced, more or less, to pay a sum of money to microsoft. rant I feel very strong against paying them money, exactly because they are counting on people to give in to the pressure and just pay their tax to the monopoly, so that it can opress its rivals even more. In today's world I feel that windows is trying to force itself on me, in various ways. Therefore I want to use my obvious right not to use it and, obviously, not to pay an involuntary tax. /rant I know that at least one person succeeded in getting his money back, from toshiba: http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html Personally I do not understand the law issues, so I don't know how good a case I have if I would mail the retailer / manufacturer, and tell them that I am entitled to a refund, according to the microsoft EULA license agreement. Does anyone have an opinion on this matter? Also, could it be that this situation is illegal, and that a court of law in Israel could *require* the retailers/manufacturers to let the customers buy a machine without an OS? regards, Christoph = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Captain Learns Linux
On 2003-06-19 Aviram Jenik wrote: Did you respond, support or protest? We want to know about it! Please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that we can supply accurate statistics and help you amplify your voice. I just did! Naturally, I wanted to write my email in *hebrew*. I must admit that I didn't know how to do this in my favorite email client: xterm+mutt+vim, So I had to resort to kde+kmail. That worked beautifully and easily :). Thanks! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In what ways maildir is probably better then mbox?
On 2003-04-06 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 10:43:31AM +0300, Christoph Bugel wrote: On 2003-04-05 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: I've heard of mbx, but mutt doesn't seem to support it :(. The coed is there. There is a library (by default: statically linked. Debian has it dynamically-linked, to save at least 3MB of disk). I can't attest to the quality of that code, and to its adaptibility. Cool, thanks. I guess it's not a library that comes with mutt. (grep -rli mbx mutt-1.4 didn't turn up anything) I'll have a look at debian.org later. However, even if I can get mutt to support it, I'll also need procmail to write to .mbx ... With ext2 , and certainly with reiserfs (optimised for many small files) maildir operations seem to be faster. Basically: you at least know where exatly is every message. I seem to remember that one of the recent Linux filesystems has 'indexed directories' or something. Maybe that would make maildir a good choice. However, last time I tried using maildirs with mutt, I just couldn't figured out how to navigate between folders. So I gave up and returned to maildirs (which was a shame, because this was one of the reasons I had prepared a reiserfs partition, and I spent some time converting the mailboxes to maildirs). I tried out a maildir folder once, and it (navigation) seemed to work just the same as with mbox files. See below for the relevant part of my .muttrc (I did something that works, and haven't looked at it for ages :) set arrow_cursor set folder=~/mail set spoolfile = =MBOX # when in the initial index -- press tab, to get these. mailboxes `echo imap://exchange:143/INBOX pop://mail.netvision.net.il /home/chris/mail/* /home/chris/mail/list/*` = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In what ways maildir is probably better then mbox?
On 2003-04-06 Ira Abramov wrote: the problems with maildirs are two: the files are tiny and waste too much allocation space, and the directories are usually not tree-indexed so you have a hash but the keys are again in a linked list rather than a tree. Reiser (AFAIK) is the only FS that solves both of these problems, and is therefore the best FS for Maildirs. My current FS is etx3. Maybe I will experiment with 'loopback mounted reiserfs maildir' as my new mailbox format :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In what ways maildir is probably better then mbox?
On 2003-04-05 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: mbox has two major problems: * All the data is in one file (locking problems) * there is no index to that file. Thus operations are highly inefficient. . mbx is wu's attempt to create a more efficient mailbox format. Although they are now working on an improved one. I've heard of mbx, but mutt doesn't seem to support it :(. I wonder why there is no widely suppported *indexed* mailbox format. Every time I fire up mutt I have to wait several seconds for some mailboxes to load. (maybe mutt should at least 'cache' its information, so that once an mbox file is parsed, it stays parsed in memory) BTW, I tried maildir but it doesn't help much in this respect. not really surprising, since it's just a directory. jusl like mbox, it does not have an index. So I am staying with the simpler mbox. Another solution/workaround would be to change my mail-reading habits, and keep my mailboxes small, so that my mailboxes will remain small. Right now for example I load the entire linux-il mailbox containing lots of emails (3 seconds at least), just in order to read the latest mails.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: win2k/xp offline contence and linux
On 2003-02-26 Eran Mann wrote: Shlomi Fish wrote: I think the default compilation option of NTFS is read-only and that read-write is experimental. To enable it, you need to recompile this module. I think. [...] It is marked as DANGEROUS, not EXPERIMENTAL. And IIRC in 2.4.x it's actually supposed to eat your partition. I believe in 2.5.x it's supposed to be more resonable, but it's still marked DANGEROUS. I havn't tried enabling it though... FWIW, read-write is dangerous, but only if the write action *modifies* the structure of the filesystem, not when it just modifies the content of an existing file. It is quite easy to have write acces to unused space on an ntfs partition, by loopback mounting ext2 on some large existing ntfs file: I created in windoze, on a large ntfs partition (that would otherwise be unused and not writable from linux) a very large file (couple of gigabytes). Admitted, I can't accesss it from windoze, but who cares :). This requires me to mount the ntfs 'rw', but I am careful to not really write.. (I mount it as root, so usually I feel safe as a regular user) I did have to patch my kernel (2.4.20) with the 'new' ntfs driver. (ntfs-2.x is the new version) # mount | grep ntfs /dev/hda1 on /ntfs type ntfs (rw) /ntfs/do_not_delete on /loopntfs type ext2 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,loop=/dev/loop0) # grep ntfs /etc/fstab /dev/hda1 /ntfs ntfsnoauto,rw 0 0 /ntfs/do_not_delete /loopntfs ext2noauto,user,rw,loop 0 0 # dmesg |grep -i ntfs NTFS driver 2.1.0a [Flags: R/W]. ftape v3.04d 25/11/97 for Linux 2.4.20preempt-ntfs (plus a couple of unicode errors) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: win2k/xp offline contence and linux
On 2003-02-27 Christoph Bugel wrote: FWIW, read-write is dangerous, but only if the write action *modifies* the structure of the filesystem, not when it just modifies the content of an existing file. to emphasize: I meant modifying the content, without also changing the size. (because that would change the structure of the FS) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
On 2003-01-31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello there ... im running MDK ver 9 , and while trying to run an app i got this error msg : open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy /dev/dsp is the sound device driver. If some application uses it, another cannot use it at the same time, as far as I know. If you are running KDE, the kde itself is using it, so your app can't open the device directly. But you can try to run your application like this: $ artsdsp yourapp Or otherwise you kan kill the 'artsd' daemon (killall artsd), (but then KDE itself will not make sounds..) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which TV card?
On 2003-01-19 Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: you can try the '-remote' option of xawtv and see if it works better (but much slower, unless on a fast machine). Thanks for drawing my attention to that option. My card worked just fine, but with -remote I can now watch 100% fullscreen, instead of just 95% in overlay mode :). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting with something else instead of /sbin/init
On 2003-01-22 Michael Sternberg wrote: Hello I'm trying to make kernel to start a different application instead of /sbin/init. So, I passing init=/bin/sh in kernel command line. I actually can see this setting in messages emitted by kernel. But from some reason the kernel starts a real /sbin/init and ignores my setting. It should work.. is your /bin/sh statically linked? I think it should be. (if you can't find out why it doesn't work, rename your /bin/sh to /sbin/init :) If there *is* a problem with your /bin/sh, the kernel will try a few alternatives: (linux/init/main.c) /* * We try each of these until one succeeds. * * The Bourne shell can be used instead of init if we are * trying to recover a really broken machine. */ if (execute_command) execve(execute_command,argv_init,envp_init); execve(/sbin/init,argv_init,envp_init); execve(/etc/init,argv_init,envp_init); execve(/bin/init,argv_init,envp_init); execve(/bin/sh,argv_init,envp_init); panic(No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.); = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
On 2003-01-19 Grinberg, Hari wrote: Hi, I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware or free. Exceed is an X server. In unix, graphics are based on X anyway, so you already have the X server installed! You just need to know how it works. I don't know what you want to do. If you just want to display a graphical application on your RedHat display, you don't need to do anything special (except for setting the $DISPLAY variable on your remote machine). I would recommed this, because I can't imagine why you need something more complicated. on your remote machine define an environment variable DISPLAY === redhatbox:0.0 and make sure your redhat box allows connections (man xhost or xauth) and then on your remote machine type the name of your graphical app and that's it. If you really want the entire 'desktop environment' of the remote machine (for some reason), you can run a second X server, next to the default one on your RedHat box. I'm not very experienced in this, but my X server usually runs under virtual terminal 7 (ctrl-alt-F7), and it is simle to start another one under (ctrl-alt-F8), by going to your console, and typing something like this: XFree86: startx -- :1.0 -auth /dev/null (yes I know, the -auth thing is probably wrong..) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which TV card?
On 2003-01-18 Shaul Karl wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 09:33:04AM +0200, Christoph Bugel wrote: I bought a Pinnacle TV card (at Kosmos URL please? Just interested to know where to look for staff. www.[kc]osmos.co.il doesn't seem fit since it is about optical equipment. Or is it the grocery store chain? Yes, I meant the store chain. Don't think they have a website. I know that (at least) the store in Ga'ash sells computers too. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rename to GNU/Linux
On 2003-01-17 Dan Armak wrote: On Friday 17 January 2003 14:46, you wrote: in no place I've seen RMS saying that it should be called GNU/linux cause of idles, I might be wrong but I'm preety sure that his most used argument is that a lot of gnu programers worked on the system and calling it linux gives credit only to the guy who made the kernel, do you have a written prof to your claim?;) Yes indeed. See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html. In there rms explains that distributions should be named gnu/linux to promote the free software philosophy and to make users aware of the history of gnu and linux; Also, during the talk at IBM, RMS said that he would not have insisted on the naming issue, *if* the battle was already won. But since there are still many dangers lurking (treacerous computing sounded very scary to me), he thinks it's important to insist that Linux is a result of an ideological movement to create a FREE operating system, and not just a nice pice of code written by some cool guy(s). There was a PLAN, and the plan was started by GNU and the GPL. (The above are my words, not his, this is NOT exactly what he said) Personally I find the term GNU/Linux somewhat unpractical. Maybe that's not a good excuse if it is really important, Haven't figured that out for myself yet. Any way, I do use the term GNU/Linux, especially in the written word. The name of a mailing list is a written word, so I think it would be a good idea. On 2003-01-17 Shlomi Fish wrote: You can also call yourself the Jerusalem Free Software Club (JFSC) to underscore you approve of FreeBSD and friends as well. Good idea :) And not only FreeBSD of course but 95% of the software that comes with any GNU/Linux distribution is not a part of linux, but just 'Free software' = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proftpd and file unseen
On 2003-01-15 Ben-Nes Michael wrote: I tared two different file to directory. one file size was 75 MB and the second 2.4 GB I don't understand, what exactly is supposed to be in your tar file? try tar -tf your_file.tar and tell us what it prints I guess ftp works just fine, but you create the tar file correctly The server is ProFTPD Version 1.2.5 Maybe it cant read huge files ? I can't imagine its a bug in ftp.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proftpd and file unseen
On 2003-01-15 FW Admin wrote: ext2 2Gb file size limitation ? oops, I didn't notice that detail. sorry for my previous mail.. This may hint to the root of the problem. I once tried to use cygwin tools to create large files, and most of the tools (ls, cat, dd) broke above 2GB or 4GB. (and I had to resort to cmd.exe) However, I Just checked: on *my* system I managed to create a file of +- 3GB on ext2. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proftpd and file unseen
On 2003-01-15 Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi tar tfzv 20030115-sites.tar.gz work just fine :) By the way to go around it just downloaded the file using SMB and got it ( from samba to win98 ). hmm, ok, I tried to ftp a 3GB file but already my ftp commandline client stops me: ftp put bigfile local: bigfile remote: bigfile local: bigfile: File too large I wonder where this limitation comes from.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which TV card?
On 2003-01-15 shlomo solomon wrote: Hi, After not succeeding in getting the FlyVideo2000 (saa7134) to work, I've decided to get a bt8** card - in the hope that it'll be more straightforward to set-up. I bought a Pinnacle TV card (at Kosmos, 360 NIS, but out of stock now) It's a bt8** card. Works great with bttv/xawtv. Comes with a remote that plugs into the serial port, and which works great with lirc. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Survey (was: article on ynet)
On 2003-01-14 Eli Marmor wrote: My desktop environment management is: - 1. Only KDE. 2. I prefer KDE. 3. Both. 4. I prefer Gnome. 5. Only Gnome. 0. None. Wait! As an fvwm2 user (at home) I feel this survey is 'offensive' There is no right answer for me.. If I answer 'None', I am actually saying that 'fvwm2 is not a desktop environment'. Not that I fell stringly one way or another, but why force me make a statement on that.. I am sure this is an oversight, please add an option for 'Other'. (just a guy who was bitten too often by annoying surveys) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Survey (was: article on ynet)
On 2003-01-14 Eli Marmor wrote: Just to clarify: The meaning of the answer None included other. OK :) See below for my survey answers 1 my home machine: My desktop environment management is: 0: None/Other (fvwm2) Reasons (please check all that apply): G2: I've got used to this desktop. G3: I have a lot of existing configurations/customizations for this desktop, and/or existing investments. H: Another reason (PLEASE DETAIL): It lets me do most of what I want, and all my personal configuration settings are in one single file that I can easily understand, easily modify (even without GUI), easily take with me to another machine, etc. I makes me feel I am in control of the machine... (as opposed to kde/* of .gnome/* trees which I am (not yet) able to grasp). Also, it lets me do things that I don't know how to do in KDE/Gnome (even though I'm sure it's possible). for example, I created a button to start an xterm without borders (HandleWidth=0), so that it is, in effect a true fullscreen xterm. something I cannot achieve with Konsole right now.. 2 my machine at work My desktop environment management is: 2: I prefer KDE. Reasons (please check all that apply): H: Another reason (PLEASE DETAIL) I'm not sure why.. maybe because I want to spend less time configuring it than my home machine, and the default KDE settings are more convenient when I don't want to waste time with ti. Never used gnome for a long time, usually I get stuck in the beginning, maybe it's not intuitive enough for me. I do use gnome apps, of course. 3 machines I installed for my family My desktop environment management is: 2: I prefer KDE. Reasons (please check all that apply): C1: Similarity to Windows GUI. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 99.6% idle 5.16 load
On 2003-01-13 Gabor Szabo wrote: Now why does the machine not responding sometimes ? I guess at this point I have to go back to man ps. Since NFS was mentioned in this thread, and since I can only guess, I will say that I once experienced delays when typing commands into my shell, and it turned out it was because my PATH contained a directory that was on a (not responding) NFS. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 99.6% idle 5.16 load
On 2003-01-13 Christoph Bugel wrote: On 2003-01-13 Gabor Szabo wrote: Now why does the machine not responding sometimes ? I guess at this point I have to go back to man ps. Since NFS was mentioned in this thread, and since I can only guess, I will say that I once experienced delays when typing commands into my shell, and it turned out it was because my PATH contained a directory that was on a (not responding) NFS. and or my LD_LIBRARY_PATH. etc, etc. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dealing with low disk space
On 2003-01-12 Shoshannah Forbes wrote: A newbie question: when attempting to install a large application (OpenOffice) it refused due to low disk space. Is there any utility out there that can help me figure out what is using all my HD space and what can be removed safely, without making a mess? I usually do it manually: cd into a some directory and list everything, sorted by disk usage: cd somewhere du -sk * | sort -n Usually I just delete my own files, but sometimes I do it as root, deleting stuff that I *know* I can delete safely. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dealing with low disk space
du -sk * | sort -n And you also probably want to use 'df -k' [1] to see how much free space you have, listed per partition. If your partitoin is too small to begin with, you can tell OpenOffice to install itself into a different location. [1] or df -H, as I just learnt from Oded's post :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Make files and environment
On 2003-01-12 Oded Arbel wrote:
Hi list.
not really alinux question, but if you please -
I'm writing a Makefile to build some project, and it needs to get some data
from environment variables. specificly some variables that are initialized
from a profile.d bash file. now I know that I can access environment
variables from make using ${NAME}, but the problem is that sometimes the
Makefile is run with no environment set - specificly, when being invoked as a
post-commit script in CVS when called by a windows CVS client. is it possible
to somehow 'source' a specified bash file to export its environment into a
Makefile from withing the make process ?
Everything I tried so far failed (which mostly involved treating a Makefile as
a glorified bash script - which apparently it isn't).
Maybe the clean way is to do it from the 'post-commit script'?
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Re: RMS Lecture : Cab Ride
On 2003-01-12 Shachar Shemesh wrote: I have semi official information that reveals that bus number 49 from Ramata Aviv to Petach Tikva should cost about 8 NIS. The IBM building is also some 10 or 15 minutes walk from the Jabotinski / Geha junction. And getting there is quite easy with public traffic, IIRC, bus/sherut number 51, 66, and probably lots of others. (dont know about traffic jams though...) Petach-Tikva | jezira-| | IBM | | |=geha== | | | | jabotinski TelAviv = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RMS Lecture : Cab Ride
On 2003-01-12 I wrote: The IBM building is also some 10 or 15 minutes walk from the On second thought, make that 20 minutes. Your mileage may vary :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dealing with low disk space
On 2003-01-12 Oded Arbel wrote: Side note to Amir Tal: Isn't this what IGLU is all about - getting into heated discussions over simple issues ? ;-) ok, here goes :) du -sk * will ignore files/directories that start with a dot.. and these can sometimes be large too. (for example .ccache) So I ended up with a kludge like this: (trying to exclude the .. directory...) alias dus='du -sm * .[^.]* ..?* . | sort -n' = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ha'aretz article regarding RMS
On 2003-01-12 Arik Baratz wrote: Terminology: I use f/b for Free as in free beer or the Hebrew HINAM and f/s for Free as in free speech or HOFSHI in Hebrew. The word HOFSHI seems to be popular as the hebrew translation of 'free as in speech', but I think when people hear TOCHNA HOFSHIT they are likely to associate it with the price and not necessarily think about the freedom. In the sentence KNISA HOFSHIT it means free beer too. (I don't have a better alternative though..) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On Linux, cp new_version old_version while old is running is harmless
Time for testing: [oron@mercury test]$ cp /bin/sleep mysleep [oron@mercury test]$ ./mysleep 100 [1] 7150 [oron@mercury test]$ cp /bin/sleep mysleep cp: cannot create regular file `mysleep': Text file busy Just as any sane Unix system (of course you can rename away 'mysleep' and do the 'cp' which will create a *new* file with the same name.) interesting.. I didn't know that cp overwrites the existing inode. but indeed it does, it simply *truncates* the target file: $ strace cp /bin/sleep mysleep 21 | grep open.*sleep open(/bin/sleep, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 open(mysleep, O_WRONLY|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE) = 4 indeed, rm or mv will 'fix' the problem. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On Linux, cp new_version old_version while old is running is harmless
open(mysleep, O_WRONLY|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE) = 4 and if mysleep is still running: open(mysleep, O_WRONLY|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ETXTBSY (Text file busy) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On Linux, cp new_version old_version while old is running is harmless
On 2003-01-01, Ehud Karni wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:10:35 +0200, Christoph Bugel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: interesting.. I didn't know that cp overwrites the existing inode. but indeed it does, it simply *truncates* the target file: $ strace cp /bin/sleep mysleep 21 | grep open.*sleep open(/bin/sleep, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 open(mysleep, O_WRONLY|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE) = 4 indeed, rm or mv will 'fix' the problem. The point of using `cp' (or `cat ') is to keep the current (old) file permissions. Using `rm + cp' or `mv' create the new file with your default permissions or the moved file permissions. Good point. BTW, I looked in the cp manpage, and found that cp -f will succeed even if text file busy: If necessary, it will first unlink the file. strace snippet of cp -f: open(mysleep, O_WRONLY|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ETXTBSY (Text file busy) unlink(mysleep) = 0 open(mysleep, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0100755) = 4 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: calendar
On 2002-12-24, kfir lavi wrote: 2. i have used outlook calendar, and i'm searching for a tool that works in windows and linux, that will get my calendar from outlook. recommendations ? I don't know about your situation, but my employer uses M$exchange, so I am forced to connect to that. Luckily exchange does have a web interface, and it works with any java-enabled browser. so I can actually edit my appointments from linux/mozilla without being forced to use windows. my outlook looks like this: alias outlook='mozilla http://MYCOMPANY/exchange/exchange.asp' = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa
On 2002-12-17, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. Speaking will be RMS (yesm, yes, *that* Stallman) and Theodore T'so, one of the kernel developers. Details: http://www-5.ibm.com/il/news/events/gnulinux/ Does anyone have more details about the second day in Haifa? The ibm page mentions: http://www.haifa.il.ibm.com/workshops/gnulinux2003 but that link doesn't work = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ale Yarok and Open Source????
On 2002-12-16, Uzi Refaeli wrote: Indeed this is not a political list but its a political country! I think its important to raise the issue of open source!!! Well done Gili well, on-topic or off-topic, the original mail doesn't even contain a url. it has some vague .url attachement which is, I guess, a microsoft innovation to make thinkgs easier %*^%*@#$. (a text file containing a url plus some other garbage, I know). I find that annoying enough to ignore the content of the email. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.url attachements (was Ale Yarok and Open Source????)
On 2002-12-16, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Christoph Bugel, from the post of Mon, 16 Dec: well, on-topic or off-topic, the original mail doesn't even contain a url. it has some vague .url attachement which is, I guess, a microsoft innovation to make thinkgs easier %*^%*@#$. (a text file containing a url plus some other garbage, I know). I find that annoying enough to ignore the content of the email. Thanks but no thanks for the blind hate demonstration. if you cared to look into the attachment you would find it was: I did, I even mentioned in parentheses what is inside it. I get these attachements everyday at my work, and I don't complain about them usually, because its a windoze world here, and I choose my battles.. But when I receive .url attachements on a linux mailing list I do complain, because I think it's a stupid M$ innovation, which only adds needless complexity to something simple as a url. Stop and think before you curse, please. True. Maybe I should have directed my flame more clearly against the url, and not against the poster. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compaq Evo N1015v
On 2002-12-14, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: I'm having trouble getting RedHat 8.0 to install on my brother new shiny $SUBJECT. The installation seems to proceed fine up till the phase were it seems to be trying to access the CDROM at which point it halts with no error message - just a blank installation screen. hmm... as a last option you could try to install something that doesn't require a cdrom. I'ts may not solve the cdrom issue, but at least the rest of linux will work. I can speak at least for slackware, where this would be quite easy -- copy the insallation files (some 400MB of *.tgz) somewhere on your harddrive (maybe on an existing windoze partition?), then boot into slackware (+- two floppies needed), and then start the setup program, pointing it to those 400MB on your disk. I guess other distros can do this too, but I don't know. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blessed Religious Wars [Was: Mandrake 9.0 is fantastic]
On 2002-12-13, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: hehe... a signature I caught the other day on some random mailing list: Emacs is a fine OS, but what it lacks to be able to hold it's own against Linux and Windows is a good text editor. ;-) I've heard it in a shorter version: (even better IMO :) Emacs is a fine OS, but it lacks a good text editor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blessed Religious Wars [Was: Mandrake 9.0 is fantastic]
On 2002-12-13, Shachar Shemesh wrote: (anyone still seriously using GNUStep? fvwm?) For the record, yes: at home my main wm currently is fvwm2. And a collegue of me at work is actually using twm.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tar+BZip2
On 2002-12-11, Christoph Bugel wrote: If you get hundreds of files you are probably lucky. from the manpage I think these are (uncorrupted) blocks. you can simply cat * x.tar and you have a chance that it works.. correction -- they may or may not be corrupted, first check with bzip2 -t. (I didnt rtfm enough) Anyway, if you know how it was damaged, it could help too. (ftp in acsii mode?) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp in user-mode.
On 2002-12-09, Tzahi Fadida wrote: Where can i find a a very simple ftp program to run inside a shell account in user-mode. features seeked: different port then 23,21 whatever so it won't run into the existing ftp daemon. home directory as the restricted public dir. simple username/password. command line operating. google gave me this one: http://www.ftp4all.de/v3/noframes/index.html but I suspect that it should be possible to take almost any ftp daemon and tell it at runtime, or maybe at configure/compile time to use a different port, etc) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP and computer name
On 2002-12-11, mail Admin wrote: Hi how can i konw the computer name that take my IP ADDRESS suppose that your IP address is 10.20.30.40, try: host 10.20.30.40 or (if you use YP): ypcat hosts | grep 10.20.30.40 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: ClearCase (was: installing Redhat kernel on Mandrake?)
On 2002-12-09, Noam Meltzer wrote: We have a similar issue in my company, and I would be glad to hear if you had any success with the ClearCase. Basically I believe that copying the kernel should be enough. Take to mind that clearcase now supports redhat7.3, thus you can use redhats kernel 2.4.18-redhat patch A practical option we consider is to ignore the linux version of clearcase... and issue all cleartool commands from some existing solaris machine. On solaris we create a snapshot view that sits on /net/linuxbox/snapshot or something. so that we can still develop on a nice linux box. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tar+BZip2
On 2002-12-11, Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi Clan, I had to re-install my computer, so I tar.bz2 my e-mail dir (about 700MB+). Now, when I try to open it, I get CRC errors... I tried bzip2recover, but it creates a hundreds of small file and it is impossible to manage... Out of interest, do you have an idea how your .tar.bz2 got corrupted? If you get hundreds of files you are probably lucky. from the manpage I think these are (uncorrupted) blocks. you can simply cat * x.tar and you have a chance that it works.. probably the tar file will be incomplete, so maybe you need to look at the tar manpage too, and find some options that make it less strict on errors. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing Redhat kernel on Mandrake?
Problem solved. - copy kernel and /lib/modules/2.4.2-2 from the binary rpm into place - edit /etc/fstab: s/ext2/ext3/ (indeed kernel 2.4.2 did not support ext3 yet, as someone mentioned). note: this step must be done before the mkinitrd command! - create new initrd with mkinitrd - edited lilo.conf, run lilo - reboot At this point I could boot successfully into the 'new' kernel and I was happy. The purpose for this all was to install ClearCase, and I don't know if/how that will work out, but the short-term task is done, and I learned something in the process. Thanks to everyone who replied! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing Redhat kernel on Mandrake?
Does anyone know if is possible to install a 'redhat kernel' on mandrake? I want to install kernel-2.4.2-2.i586.rpm, which is a redhat-specific kernel. (lotsa patches, it's not on kernel.org) I need this (old, dangerous, I guess) kernel because a friend has mandrake and wants to install ClearCase (source control software), which needs to insert a closed-source, binary module, and therefore requires a specific (redhat-only) kernel. I'm a slackware guy and usuallly install stuff from source. I'm not very familiar with rpm. Any hints are appreciated. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccache pitfall discovered
On 2002-10-29, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: We've had a thread recently about ccache and potential pitfalls. johnm on advogato has discovered one such pitfall. The details: http://www.advogato.org/person/johnm/diary.html?start=23 IIRC, ccache promises to produce the same results as the real compiler *only* if the compiler itself has not changed. And IIRC, the heuristic to know if the compiler has changed is simply to look at the timestamp of the compiler frontend executable. So if, for example, gas was upgraded, or something similar, ccache wil not know about it. So maybe it's a feature, not a bug. Just guessing, didn't try to reproduce it. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccache pitfall discovered
On 2002-10-29, Christoph Bugel wrote: On 2002-10-29, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: We've had a thread recently about ccache and potential pitfalls. johnm on advogato has discovered one such pitfall. The details: http://www.advogato.org/person/johnm/diary.html?start=23 IIRC, ccache promises to produce the same results as the real compiler *only* if the compiler itself has not changed. And IIRC, the heuristic to know if the compiler has changed is simply to look at the timestamp of the compiler frontend executable. So if, for example, gas was upgraded, or something similar, ccache wil not know about it. So maybe it's a feature, not a bug. Just guessing, didn't try to reproduce it. But this still doesn't explain the warning dated from august.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccache pitfall discovered
On 2002-10-29, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:11:50AM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: We've had a thread recently about ccache and potential pitfalls. johnm on advogato has discovered one such pitfall. The details: http://www.advogato.org/person/johnm/diary.html?start=23 [Replying to myself. Oy Vey.] I couldn't reproduce johnm's results with ccache 1.9, so they should be treated with caution. If anyone manages to reproduce it, I would very much like to know. I can't reproduce it, because when I compile code (gcc -c) I don't see any the use of `mktemp' is dangerous warning. I can only get this warning if I actually *link* some code. but ccache doesn't intervene with linking. I tried various gcc's (3.2, 3.04, 2.95), and all of them don't warn about mktemp at compile time.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resizing /
I want to grow the / partition. [...] This is obviously inappropriate for /, because I can't unmount /. I tried to use ext2fsadm, but it wants a file created by vgscan. I read the docs, and they require me to create logical volumes with vgcreate. At this point I am slowly getting lost, I think you'll have to resize it when it's not mounted. for example, boot from a floppy linux, or if you have another linux installed on your hard drive, boot into that.. below are 2 quotes from the parted manual. http://www.gnu.org/manual/parted-1.6.1/html_chapter/parted_5.html Parted can't resize mounted partitions (this may change in the future... If you want to resize your root or boot partition, use a boot disk See section 1.6 Using a Parted Boot Disk, or use Andreas Dilger's online ext2 resizer, included in the ext2resize package section = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetchmail like programs
On 2002-10-21, Arie Folger wrote:
Hi,
I use Kmail for my email browsing, and rather like it. However, I would like
to be able to download my email without firing up X, and would like the email
Here's my setup:
- fetchmail connects periodically to various POP3 hosts and
collects my mail. It sends them to my local sendmail
(localhost, port 25). (I don't know how to configure
sendmail, but for this task the default settings are
perfect)
- sendmail, I think, sees that I have a ~/.procmailrc, and
therefore feeds my mail to procmail, (instead of putting
it in /var/spool, I think)
- procmail (.procmailrc) has a couple of rules ('recipies')
where I filter my mail into various folders: mail/inbox,
mail/spam, lists/linux-il, etc, etc.
So far for the mail retrieval. This put all email in nice
mbox folders, just where I want them. Now as for the mail
client (MUA) I use only mutt to view my mailboxes, but I
could use more than one mail client if I wanted to, as long
as it understands mbox.
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Re: A random computer shop in Vienna
I especially liked the 'Linux users parking ONLY. All others will be reformatted' sign on the side... :-) It's cool :-) But I'm puzzled about that 'Visual Basic 6' book just below it.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical Question
I don't think there is a freeware that does that. The place to look is in the ntfs for linux project http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/. There is a (Free Software, not just freeware) program called GNU parted. It can resize many types of partitions/filesystems. Unfortunately, ntfs doesn't appear on the feature list. thought I'd mention it anyway. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccache
ccache is a compiler cache. It acts as a caching pre-processor to C/C++ compilers, using the -E compiler switch and a hash to detect when a compilation can be satisfied from cache. This often results in a 5 to 10 times speedup in common compilations. I've been using ccache for quite some time too. The speedup is quite spectacular for C++ (since g++ is much slower then gcc) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zone info
On 2002-08-01, Michael Sternberg wrote: I'm looking for updated files that contain zones info (zones, cities, daylight savings etc) that can be used as input file for /usr/sbin/zic. http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unsubscribe ;)
On 2002-07-16, Iftach Hyams wrote: Is there a request for vacation ? mesa3d has a site where you can choose to freeze your account, set digest mode etc. You can talk to the daemon an [EMAIL PROTECTED] and send it commands. for example the command help or stats linux-il. there is also a command to change flags, and VACATION seems to be one of them. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
yet another *cluefull* ynet article
The article http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2004313,00.html is about yet another boring virus. But scrolling down the page it says, in bold: 'only windows users are affected'. Exactly the sentence that goes through my head whenever I read that type of articles! Thanks ynet! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT: New Version of MSIE for Solaris and HP-UX
On 2002-07-11, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
[...]
This lead to some very funny things, including early Linux system that
had some text files (I don't remmeber if they were keymaps, or shell
scripts or something like that) that actually had (C) Microsoft
Corporation in their head because their were ported from Xenix.
I've seen it on solaris8. don't know if its a hoax :-)
solaris8:~$ cat /bin/clear
#!/usr/bin/sh
# Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 ATT
# All Rights Reserved
# THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF ATT
# The copyright notice above does not evidence any
# actual or intended publication of such source code.
#ident @(#)clear.sh 1.8 96/10/14 SMI /* SVr4.0 1.3 */
# Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Microsoft Corporation
# All Rights Reserved
# This Module contains Proprietary Information of Microsoft
# Corporation and should be treated as Confidential.
# clear the screen with terminfo.
# if an argument is given, print the clear string for that tty type
/usr/bin/tput ${1:+-T$1} clear 2 /dev/null
exit
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Re: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)
I will be extremely thankful if you could direct me to any scientific or non-biased research and news regarding the following issues: The adoption of Open Source Systems in other western countries. The qualities of Open Source Systems as far as data security is concerned. There is the well known 'Mitre report': http://www.mitre.org/support/papers/tech_papers_01/kenwood_software/ Also, Maybe also the German government can be used as an example. I don't have any link ready, but seem to be quite clueful, they are trying to promote the use of open source software by the government, for various reasons, such as quality, security, vendor lock-in. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dirent structure and fwrite
On 2002-06-30, Eliran wrote:
Hello !
I'm trying to use the command *fwrite()* (not write()) to write the content
of de-d_name (de is the structure name,) to a file, I have tried many ways
but it always get scrambled and I hear beeps (like trying to cat a binary
file).
I'm using the a mode for fopen not b.
For for me it works just fine, see the example below.
My guess (since you didn't show your code..) is that you put the fwrite
function arguments in the wrong place, because I think when it beeps, something
gets written to your terminal (the terminal usually generates the beeps), ie,
to file descriptor 1 or 2 -- sdtoud and stderr respectively. so it looks like
you are not writing to the file you were thinking of. am I correct?
The following code works just fine, if you supply an argument, that is.
#include unistd.h
#include stdio.h
#include sys/types.h
#include dirent.h
int main(int argc, char ** argv)
{
DIR * dir = opendir(argv[1]);
struct dirent * de;
while(de = readdir(dir))
fwrite(de-d_name, strlen(de-d_name), 1, stdout);
return 42;
}
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In-Reply-To header mystery
Is there someone on this list that receives his mail from **netvision** ? If yes, could you please grep your linux-il mailbox and see if it contains this string: In-reply-to: from If you use a unix mbox, just do grep 'In-reply-to:\ from' your-mbox and see if you get results. Why am I asking? Well, the threading of my mailclient mutt-1.4 is broken, and I tracked it down to the fact that I get many mails with *wrong* in-reply-to headers, of the form In-reply-to: from someone@somewhere It turns out, however, that most people see a DIFFERENT header. I also checked the mailinglist archives, and they are different (and correct) too. At first I was suspecting that my sendmail or fetchmail are rewriting the headers, but I now know that when I access the netvision POP3 account directly from mutt, I still get the bad headers. so now I suspect Netvision.. I hope someone can confirm this? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: atomically opening and deleting a file
On 2002-06-11, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Is there a way to open a file (get an fd) and then delete it, in one atomic operation? I need to open a temporary file (but with a fixed name, so mkstemp() and friends are not an option) and then make sure it doesn't remain behind if the program should die unexpectedly. Doing open(foo, ...); unlink(foo, ...); is obviously unsafe, since foo might be pointing to something else by the time I unlink it. Suggestions? You know that you can do the unlink *immediately* after the open, right? you can still use the fd after that, but your foo link will live only for a couple of microseconds (or whatever). If I understand you correctly, you want to avoid even those microseconds? you want to make sure that the foo link *never* exists in any directory? (then why do you care for a fixed name, if the name never exists?) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mutt Threading (was: Re: atomically opening and deleting a file)
On 2002-06-11, Christoph Bugel wrote: On 2002-06-11, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: open(foo, ...); unlink(foo, ...); is obviously unsafe, since foo might be pointing to something else by the time I unlink it. Suggestions? You know that you can do the unlink *immediately* after the open, right? you can still use the fd after that, but your foo link will live only for a couple of microseconds (or whatever). If I understand you correctly, you want to avoid even those microseconds? you want to make sure that the foo link *never* exists in any directory? (then why do you care for a fixed name, if the name never exists?) Sorry, seems like I missed most of the discussions on this thread, because mutt was thinking that these messages belong to another random thread. This seems to happens with other threads too. Either bug in mutt (I upgraded to 1.4 a few days ago) or something else I did wrong.. I have to sort according to date now, if I want to see *all* messages.. Has anyone experienced this? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt Threading (was: Re: atomically opening and deleting a file)
On 2002-06-11, Michael Rozhavsky wrote: [snip] Sorry, seems like I missed most of the discussions on this thread, because mutt was thinking that these messages belong to another random thread. This seems to happens with other threads too. Either bug in mutt (I upgraded to 1.4 a few days ago) or something else I did wrong.. I have to sort according to date now, if I want to see *all* messages.. Has anyone experienced this? From mutt changes page http://www.mutt.org/changes.html : Other changes - - New and improved threading code from Daniel Eisenbud. See also $duplicate_threads, $hide_missing, $thread_received. That doesn't fix it for me. 2 different threads started by the same person seem to tempt mutt to create identical 'In-Reply-To' fields containing something like In-Reply-To: user@host, instead of In-Reply-To: orig-msg-id. When In-Reply-To is identical, mutt thinks they belong to the same thread. I can't believe I'm the only one seeing this bug. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Job Offer] Qlusters is looking for a few good main()
On 2002-06-10, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Ok, a quick look shows what I expected it to show, c++ code that looks like c in first and second glance. No templates, in inheritance, no overloading, none of the things that make c++ c++. In the kernel, I don't care if the struct is called 'class', and if you pass an object by reference instead of by pointer, and if you have a string class, instead of a char*. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why would templates be a bad idea for kernel code (assuming for this argument that dumbed down C++ is OK)? I thought templates do the hard work at compile time, but don't have overhead at runtime? Or is it just more bug prone and harder to debug? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: job control in shell
On 2002-06-09, Henry Ficher wrote: Arie Folger wrote: Hi, Ordinarily jobs are managed with commands such as fg bg and jobs. Howvever, once a terminal session is closed, the job is no longer associated with a particular terminal. How can I, when opening another terminal session (typically several hours later, as I run long jobs on remote machines, at times) attach that job to the new terminal? Arie Folger screen is what you're looking for. Or simply work with actual the processes instead relying on 'jobs' Why do you want to 'reattach' anyways? If you want to suspend and resume, you can also do that with processes: kill STOP your_pid to suspend, and kill CONT your_pid to resume. same as ctrl-Z, bg, fg, in the shell. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GCC-2.9.5, './configure --program-suffix' not working
On 2002-06-06, Shay Elkin wrote: I ran the configuration script with the '--program-suffix=-2.95.3' option, but the binaries are named without that suffix. Anybody got a clue to why? (I checked, and the argument is saved in config.status). No clue.. I guess you should give some more info. All configure options, all your commands, etc. You did look at the binaries *after* make install, right? BTW, I never used this option. I use --prefix to install new gccs into *different* directories, and the I use PATH (and when needed, LD_LIBRAARY_PATH) to choose which compiler I want to use today. (pun intended :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some C++ Questions
On 2002-06-06, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Jun 06, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about Some C++ Questions: 2. I want to destroy a dynamically allocated object without knowing its exact class in advance. I can declare a virtual destroy method that will call (delete this;), but I'll have to do it for each inheritance level. Is there a better way. Look up virtual destructor in your favorite C++ book. And never do something like delete this! I guess never is not the correct word. There *are* legitimate uses of delete this, For example in the RCProxy design pattern. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some C++ Questions
On 2002-06-06, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Jun 06, 2002, Christoph Bugel wrote about Re: Some C++ Questions: And never do something like delete this! I guess never is not the correct word. There *are* legitimate uses of delete this, For example in the RCProxy design pattern. I'm not a design-patterns expert, so maybe I'm missing something, but how can you do delete this from within an object? First, I don't see how you know that this object was dynamically-allocated (it might have been on the stack, allocated as part of an array of objects, allocated with placement-new, etc.). Second, what happens after the delete this? The method continues to run but the object was destructed; If you do anything except return after the delete this you might accidentally try to use members of the deleted object... I'm by no means a design patterns expert either :-) But I'll try to explain the Reference-Counted Proxy pattern, as I understand it: There is a class that is for the user (the proxy class) and another class that contains the actual implementation, which should never be used directly by the user. For example, class String and class StringImp. The user creates objects of type String, and doesn't even know about the implementation class. when you create a String (String s1(foo);), the constructor does _imp = new StringImp(foo) -- on the heap -- and then calls _imp-IncrementReferenceCount() *All* things you subsequently do with the string, are delegated to the _imp. for example String.Append(a) calls _imp-Append(a) So basically the String class is just a proxy, and doesn't know anything about real Strings. When you make copies of that String: String s2 = s1; The copy constructor doesn't create another *new* string, but uses the same StringImp of s1, and then calls _imp-IncrementReferenceCount() This is the reason for this pattern, useful if the implementation object is expensive, and may be shared by various users. (In case of strings this is true, as long as the strings are constant) the Destructor of String (for example, when your s1 goes out of scope on the stack) simply calls _imp-DecrementReferenceCount() assuming your s2 is still on the stack, the reference count is now 1; when your s2 goes out of scope too, the _imp-DecrementReferenceCount() is called again. DecrementReferenceCount always checks: if _refcount == 0 delete this; So the Implementation class know that no one is using it anymore, and it can be safely deleted. and after delete thisd, the function exits, and nonoe ever uses that object again. (how sad :-) I hope this made a little sense Christoph = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some C++ Questions
On 2002-06-06, Christoph Bugel wrote: On 2002-06-06, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Jun 06, 2002, Christoph Bugel wrote about Re: Some C++ Questions: And never do something like delete this! I guess never is not the correct word. There *are* legitimate uses of delete this, For example in the RCProxy design pattern. I'm not a design-patterns expert, so maybe I'm missing something, but how can you do delete this from within an object? First, I don't see how you know that this object was dynamically-allocated (it might have been on the stack, allocated as part of an array of objects, allocated with placement-new, etc.). Second, what happens after the delete this? The method continues to run but the object was destructed; If you do anything except return after the delete this you might accidentally try to use members of the deleted object... I'm by no means a design patterns expert either :-) But I'll try to explain the Reference-Counted Proxy pattern, as I understand it: There is a class that is for the user (the proxy class) [...] I forgot to actually answer your questions :) The points that you raise are both valid, and it is the programmers responsibility to protect against them. in the example I showed they are both taken care of by the programmer of the String 'class library'. (The *user* of that class library doesn't have to worry about those dangers!) (1) the delete this statement is not followed by any other statement (2) the StringImp object is always created by e 'new' statement: heap. The user should/can only use the String class, so there is no way the StringImp will be created on the stack. This can even be enforced, by makeing the StringImp constructor can be made private) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: Linux alternatives to group scheduler (Scheduler Server) ?
Also, if for some strange reason you want to use Exchange (altough I would highly recommend aginst it) you can buy from Ximian, makers of Evolutuion, (evolution is free in both beer and speech sense) a connector that let's Evolution be used in client/server mode with Exchange. Other solutions also exists (from Bynari systems and HP OpemMail) but IMHO the method described above is the best. If you're interested in what happened in one company that tried to implment this, the quote on my homepage might be... interesting :-) Over here we have an exchange server, so I have no choice. My solution to coexist with that, and still use Linux on the desktop, is to use the 'Outlook Web Access': It is an http interface provided by the exchange server. (surprise: m$exchange can talk SMTP, POP3, and HTTP..) It works fine with mozilla (requires java). It does miss a few features, (somehow it must give outlook users an advantage) and obviously I don't use it as my mail client, but I do use it for the appointments, which I can see just fine. I can also create appointments myself. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RMS is back again
On 2002-05-31, Eliran wrote: Well, here is another response of Richard M. Stallman the FSF founder. Now he condemns the UnitedLinux (Suse, Turbo Linux, Mandrake and others joined forces). What next ? Maybe you should explain *why* you disagree with RMS. I think RMS is right. BTW, Mandrake is not part of UL. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re:israrail's xls-only schedules
On 2002-05-31, Corwin wrote: On Thu, 23 May 2002, Christoph Bugel wrote: But which spreadsheet format should we ask them to use? I think, if at the moment we can't find suitable opensrc spreadsheet format, it would be nice to have *at least* PDF or HTML version of their schedules. But again, they don't reply to emails. BTW, in the past they published their magazine in pdf, so converting to pdf shoudn't be a problem for them. Maybe you should try mail or fax (from http://www.israrail.org.il/english/travel/travel.html) == Public Commissioner: Please address requests and complaints to: Israel Railways The Public Commissioner P.O. Box 18085 Tel-Aviv, Zip 61180 . Fax: 03-6937443 . == I agree with you that they didn't think enough about non-M$ users when they added the .xls file (apparently without testing if it looks ok in other spreadsheets). But then I think they are not too bad either, and with some positive feedback they will listen. (maybe :) Note for example that they say 'best viewed in 800x600', but they don't mention the browser. this hint that they are at least a little cluefull :-) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: israrail's xls-only schedules
funny, using kde3 i can open hebrew filenames. This particular doc can be opened using kspread (1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2 beta1, the first two with biditext). BTW -- either unzip or jar have a bug :-) (I'm not using any hebrew settings, LC_ALL=POSIX) $ unzip schedules_eng.zip $ jar xf schedules_eng.zip $ ls \214\205\207\ \206\216\220\211\215\ 20.11.2001.xls \356\340\347\ \345\304\311\353\354\ 20.11.2001.xls I prefer the jar command over the unzip command, because jar (comes with JDK) has the same syntax as tar. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: israrail's xls-only schedules
On 2002-05-23, Barak Kaufman wrote: As far as i remember u can open xls files with no problems in gnumeric and in OO. hebrew might be a bit of a problem ( i didnt try openning hebrew docs in gnome 2beta anybody has an experience to share ? ) Hello ppl. Anybody want to help me encourage israrail's admins to put their schedules on whe web in some os-independent format, not only in xls ? They simply don't answer my emails. BTW, I sent them a mail, a year ago, complimenting them for creating a nice website: (1) it actually contains real useful information (2) it's a no nonsense website. Sounds obvious, but I think it takes courage to build a website without animating crap.. (didn't get a reply either :-) As for the .xls files, I'm not sure that the file format has the same status as .doc? Maybe it *is* well documented? I don't know. Here's my experience with the file: I downloaded (english) schedules_eng.zip. (1) the file has a hebrew name.. (2) soffice wastes a few minutes (!) playing with the cpu, but then displays the file. the fonts are huge for some reasone. (3) gnumeric prints out some warnings and even an error, but then it also displays the file. look better that soffice. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: israrail's xls-only schedules
On 2002-05-23, Tzahi Fadida wrote: I think you are missing the point here. Ever since I read the Peruvian government minister, I realized that there is a good chance that the government is breaking its/non comliant with the law of freedom of information. Meaning, any document or processes of information the government create and store, must be transparent to the citizens. By using closed source software or non-standard formats it theoretically break its own laws. I think that this is the right direction in the matter, though I am not certain about any of this. Are there lawyers in the house? Yes, a great article :-) ( http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-06-012-26-OS-SM-LL ) But which spreadsheet format should we ask them to use? (of course, that should be *their* problem.. .csv would have been ok in this simple case.) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nicknames for my Hostname
The effect of the hostname command will only last until the next reboot, where the init scripts will set the name localhost for him - I assume that's not what he wants. This will happen at least in RedHat, and I would guess in most other distributions. Correct! from slackware /etc/rc.d/rc.M: /bin/hostname `cat /etc/HOSTNAME | cut -f1 -d .` = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 versions of glibc living in peace together
libraries and stubs on the link line, including -llibc, -lm and the obligatory /usr/lib/crt1.o or /usr/lib/gcrt1.o - stracing a regular compiler will show you which libraries and stubs it links applications with, by default. or use gcc -v ;) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ulimit -c
For some reason, by default, my ulimit -c is 0, It means no corefiles are generated. I think I'll add ulimit -c unlimited to my .bash_login Or would it be a bad idea? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X problems
On Mon 2002-03-18, Shai Bentin wrote: Hi list, Lately I've been having X freeze problems. what happens is during work, suddenly the mouse events are not captured, soon after that the keyboard events are gone, and although I know that the machine still functions there is nothing I can do. I can think of 2 options: (1) telnet to it from another machine (2) uses the SysRq key With the second option you can recover from many kinds of trouble, for example ALT-SysRq-r will probably give you the keyboard back. Or ALT-SysRq-i will kill all your processes except init, etc. see linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt for the details. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pthreads question
This is my example of pthread not releasing memory resources when the thread function exits (I would REALLY like to have that memory back). I have written (copied and modified...) a small program that creates 200 threads which exit after 10 seconds. The main function then sleeps for 20 seconds, allowing me/you to ps aux | grep progname to see the big vsize increase. You can clearly see (below the source) that even though the functions exit, memory is not released. Both the vsize and the rss stay the same. I didn't look at the details, but I think this is not a bug. Most implementations of malloc/free will not return free()d memory to the OS, but instead they will keep it, and just mark it internally as free. the next time a user wants to malloc more memory, he will get the same that was marked free before. So normally programs never shrink. (unless they actually return memory to the kernel using a real system call, such as brk..) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
