Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Quoting Man Gregory, from the post of Fri, 21 Oct: So, first of all... Free your mind, take everything easier and with a dose of HUMOR... Firstly, making a sketch we even didn't have a thought to use it in any orthodox server and so on. I really thought that people will understand the comic situation. I did see the big joke in there. All I saw was you posting about the community websites not having high-grade graphics and offering this image. I don't know what your background is beyond your resume so I could not place this as a tounge-in-cheek joke from a secular guy (not a funny joke, mind you) or a seriously deluded offer from an Orthodox. Since as a joke it was not funny, I had to conclude it was the latter. End of thread? :) please keep in mind that on the internet, nobody knows you are a DOS. -- Telephone sanitary engineer Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Man Gregory, from the post of Fri, 21 Oct: So, first of all... Free your mind, take everything easier and with a dose of HUMOR... Firstly, making a sketch we even didn't have a thought to use it in any orthodox server and so on. I really thought that people will understand the comic situation. I did see the big joke in there. All I saw was you posting about the community websites not having high-grade graphics and offering this image. I don't know what your background is beyond your resume so I could not place this as a tounge-in-cheek joke from a secular guy (not a funny joke, mind you) or a seriously deluded offer from an Orthodox. Since as a joke it was not funny, I had to conclude it was the latter. End of thread? :) please keep in mind that on the internet, nobody knows you are a DOS. First of all I'm not DOS. Yes, I've been studying at religious school, but left everything a long time ago... Secondly, I negatively treat people who do not serve in IDF or appear to be anti-zionistic. Thirdly, I showed this picture to a number of my friends who are wearing “kipot-srugot” - and they found it curious. You're wright, let's finish this discussion that no one needs it... Say me, better, what d'u think of my ideas for new pictures I wrote in my previous letter? -- Regards, Gregory Man PGP public key: http://keyserver.kjsl.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE5043B53 -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
On 10/21/05, Shoshannah Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Putting the other comments aside for a moment, it seems to me thatthe text has a grammatical error in it. Shouldn't it be מערכתההפעלה הכי כשרה- and not מערכת הפעלה (noticethe extra heh)? Yeah, and while we're at it - note the position of the gershaim - should be בסד (always before the last letter). On 10/20/05, Man Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, now another BIG question:Does community ready to make a donation to promotion?Not to designer, but to show banners in popular web resources, etc.Or Linux promotion in Israel it`s just beautiful words? If you have a specific plan for a campaign in mind, you should try posting in hamakor list discussions@hamakor.org.il . Who knows - they might decide it's worth spending some of our membership- fee sheqels on.
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Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Thu, 20 Oct: On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 05:15:38PM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote: (b) I don't want to be identified in any way shape or form with the image of a Haredi, Orthodox Jewish family. It contradicts my deepest values. I guess you won't be too fond of this one, then... http://jewishgeeks.net/ nope, nor do I really see the point in Wikipedia's entries of List of Jewish Actors and List of Jewish Americans (and several others) unless there were lists of Catholic, Protestant, German, Irish, Spanish, Italian etc. listed in the same way, but they are not. those lists were pulled off JewWatch and are serving the wrong purpose. I'll leave out the discussion of Haredi Penguins and how anthropomorphising is rediculous in this contents and so un-Jewish to do, I'll just mention the issue of Israel being made up of 15% non-Jews and some of them are on this list and in our community. But my main problem is that between my view on the FOSS world, with its openness and freedom of choice, and my impression of religious seperatism and world view that fears change and individualism (even if it has many other good sides), It just does not seem right to borrow imagery from that associacion world into this group. That, plus as Herouth said, It does not repersent me personally, nor do I want it to represent my nationality, and definitely not my choice of group affiliation. I don't dress that way, I don't think that way, and If you want to go further into the discussion, Many Haredim are anti-Zionists, some go as far as to not acknowledging the legitimacy of a secular state of Israel (which Egypt, Pakistan and Palestine already have), so being a zionist, a free man and a free thinker, I don't want those symbols on a group that advocates freedom of speach and action. -- On a need-to-know basis Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
You know, reading this thread has been entirely entertaining. In fact, it reminds me of a very infamous joke of the old motherland. ---JOKE START--- An international competition on the subject of Elephants was held. Each nation was to send a work dealing with elephants, and each nation did. Germany submitted a thick tome entitled Elephants and the Question of Race. Britain submitted a book entitled Elephants and Maritime Trade. France submitted an elegant booklet entitles Elephants and Love. and Russia/Israel submitted a 40x20-meter poster saying Russia/Israel - The Motherland of the Elephants! ---JOKE END--- This, mes enfants, is the opinion of a much opinionated opiner of opium. -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
The picture made me laugh really hard. Thanks. (: I think I'll use it for the Bar Ilan Linux Club, if that's ok with you and the creator (please send me the details for credit). Man Gregory wrote: Hi... After browsing Israel Linux resources, I understood what they have problems with graphics design, also all Linux banners in Israel have same problems. I had some ideas and asked my girl-friend to draw some picture. This is her first attempt, to draw something on computer... What came out, you can find here:http://www.savefile.com/files/8597183 I am interesting in yours opinion. What are you think, do we have to continue this work (make banners, draw another pictures)? -- Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Debian GNU/Linux unstable (SID) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Promoting Linux in Israel (Was: Israeli Linux Logo)
Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On ה', 2005-10-20 at 23:21 +0200, Man Gregory wrote: Does community ready to make a donation to promotion? Not to designer, but to show banners in popular web resources, etc. Or Linux promotion in Israel it`s just beautiful words? I don't think Linux in Israel is ready for promotion to end-users. We need to attract more developers to fix the problems which are blockers[1] for wide adoptions in Israel, or otherwise firing Linux into the unsuspecting audience would quadruple support requests and amount to lots of bad press. There are more effective channels to attract developers than through colorful banners on mainstream portals, e.g. by addressing CS students. [1] Those are heaping up at various Bugzillas (GNOME, Mozilla...). Linux promotion is a well-known two-side stick. Think I don't have to remind you about it. From one side you don't want to promote to user a product where some functions are just absent or there's no analog of that soft the user is used to. From the other side if you wish to involve new developers and commercial soft companies you should increase the usage of the system on desktop (thanks God everything is OK on servers)... You write about bugs in Gnome, KDE, Mozilla... Though it seems strange the usual absence of bugs is not the only thing you need for a success of any OS. Think if you have a look at some bug-reports of Microsoft Windows (and the speed Microsoft represents new patches) it can be easily understood that Linux is in a bit better condition. The thing is that Microsoft is using one of the most aggressive marketing politics I've ever seen (creation of their own standards not compatible with anything, making the patents of everything and everyone)... Believe me it really works... Once I joined the developing of commercial firewall on Free-BSD base... Yeah, and the thing that increased the selling of the product was the publication in the economical magazine adopted for managers, after one more worm-epidemic in the web. In this publication it was said that to networks defended with this very product we were developing no damage was caused and vice versa the systems not defended with it were damaged. For sure there were some colorful diagrams, some sentences about our product and how good it was and is, that it's the best you can find and that's ALL – absolutely no technical terms or details... What D'U think? It worked better that any publication adopted for specialists. Only obtaining Linux spreading on desktop all of us can get what we want... -- Regards, Gregory Man PGP public key: http://keyserver.kjsl.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE5043B53 -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Thu, 20 Oct: On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 05:15:38PM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote: (b) I don't want to be identified in any way shape or form with the image of a Haredi, Orthodox Jewish family. It contradicts my deepest values. I guess you won't be too fond of this one, then... http://jewishgeeks.net/ nope, nor do I really see the point in Wikipedia's entries of List of Jewish Actors and List of Jewish Americans (and several others) unless there were lists of Catholic, Protestant, German, Irish, Spanish, Italian etc. listed in the same way, but they are not. those lists were pulled off JewWatch and are serving the wrong purpose. I'll leave out the discussion of Haredi Penguins and how anthropomorphising is rediculous in this contents and so un-Jewish to do, I'll just mention the issue of Israel being made up of 15% non-Jews and some of them are on this list and in our community. But my main problem is that between my view on the FOSS world, with its openness and freedom of choice, and my impression of religious seperatism and world view that fears change and individualism (even if it has many other good sides), It just does not seem right to borrow imagery from that associacion world into this group. That, plus as Herouth said, It does not repersent me personally, nor do I want it to represent my nationality, and definitely not my choice of group affiliation. I don't dress that way, I don't think that way, and If you want to go further into the discussion, Many Haredim are anti-Zionists, some go as far as to not acknowledging the legitimacy of a secular state of Israel (which Egypt, Pakistan and Palestine already have), so being a zionist, a free man and a free thinker, I don't want those symbols on a group that advocates freedom of speach and action. So, first of all... Free your mind, take everything easier and with a dose of HUMOR... Firstly, making a sketch we even didn't have a thought to use it in any orthodox server and so on. I really thought that people will understand the comic situation. Hardly there's a sense of thinking if the OS is kosher or non-kosher product. And I even didn't want to start discussion about “what is Israeli and what's not”. It really seemed curious and original to create a penguin orthodox family and that's all. Yeah, the next sketch will be the penguin in the IDF form who will personify the safety and security (and not “nahishut” and “ragishut”). After all these messages in the thread I start doubting the idea by itself – wow, I shouldn't touch one more sacred cow... The third work will be penguins with blue and orange stripes... One will wear the T-shirt “Merets” and the other one – orange T-shirt with the words “Jehudi ljo megaresh Jehudi”. In the middle there will be the words: “OS which fits everyone” or something like “OS which everyone can customize for himself”... Hope it won't be rated as trying to make a political tensity in Israel... If to look though the commercials – there are several layers in Israel a concrete commercial or action is pointed at... there are such layers as indigenous Israelis, orthodoxes, Russians, Arabs and so on. If you need an example, so, turn on Channel 9 (Russian-speaking Israeli Channel) and watch the commercials which constructively differ from the same ones on Channel 2... Go to any orthodox block and have a look at Big-Boards – all the women on them are wearing closed wear. I mean that the same products are being sold in different ways and the commercial is just directed to a concrete layer in society. But making the sketch we were thinking not about it!!! I repeat you once again: Don't take it hard, have a sense of humor. P.S. I beg to abstain from any comments connected to the layers of Israeli society there are places which fit more then this one for such kinds of comments. (Need a link??? Try Google :) ) -- Regards, Gregory Man PGP public key: http://keyserver.kjsl.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE5043B53 -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Shoshannah Forbes wrote: Putting the other comments aside for a moment, it seems to me that the text has a grammatical error in it. Shouldn't it be מערכת ההפעלה הכי כשרה- and not מערכת הפעלה (notice the extra heh)? --- Shoshannah Forbes http://www.xslf.com Thank you very much. As usual men are just chatting and women are working :) -- Regards, Gregory Man PGP public key: http://keyserver.kjsl.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE5043B53 -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Lior Kaplan wrote: The picture made me laugh really hard. Thanks. (: I think I'll use it for the Bar Ilan Linux Club, if that's ok with you and the creator (please send me the details for credit). I'll send everything on Sunday at the moment I'll get back home. And even don't think to make a logo from this PNG of not so great quality. You'll get a normal SVG on Sunday. The think I ask for is to set creator's and my details on the picture by itself or/and anywhere else on your web-site (it's up to you to decide). Make the original file (SVG) to be open for free downloading by users. You know GPL. Man Gregory wrote: Hi... After browsing Israel Linux resources, I understood what they have problems with graphics design, also all Linux banners in Israel have same problems. I had some ideas and asked my girl-friend to draw some picture. This is her first attempt, to draw something on computer... What came out, you can find here:http://www.savefile.com/files/8597183 I am interesting in yours opinion. What are you think, do we have to continue this work (make banners, draw another pictures)? -- Regards, Gregory Man PGP public key: http://keyserver.kjsl.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE5043B53 -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Israeli Linux Logo
Hi... After browsing Israel Linux resources, I understood what they have problems with graphics design, also all Linux banners in Israel have same problems. I had some ideas and asked my girl-friend to draw some picture. This is her first attempt, to draw something on computer... What came out, you can find here:http://www.savefile.com/files/8597183 I am interesting in yours opinion. What are you think, do we have to continue this work (make banners, draw another pictures)? -- Regards, Gregory Man PGP public key: http://keyserver.kjsl.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE5043B53 -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Quoting Man Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is her first attempt, to draw something on computer... What came out, you can find here:http://www.savefile.com/files/8597183 I am interesting in yours opinion. What are you think, do we have to continue this work (make banners, draw another pictures)? The idea of designing a sleek logo that looks nice and not like a pinguin someone drew a flag on, is a good idea. However, I have two problems with this picture. (a) It's not a logo, it's more artwork, something you'd put in a flyer. (b) I don't want to be identified in any way shape or form with the image of a Haredi, Orthodox Jewish family. It contradicts my deepest values. I'm sure there are certain pictures that would draw the same reaction from religious members of the community. My point, anyway, is that Israeli and Jewish are not the same, and if you want to represent the idea of Israeli Linux you should stick to symbols that are Israeli, not Jewish. Yes, the star of David is shared by both, but if you want it to be Israeli, you really should have the complete flag. Or a Tembel hat. Or a falafel. They are anachronistic symbols, but they still say Israeli. Head covers and peot certainly do not. Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 05:15:38PM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote: (b) I don't want to be identified in any way shape or form with the image of a Haredi, Orthodox Jewish family. It contradicts my deepest values. I guess you won't be too fond of this one, then... http://jewishgeeks.net/ /me runs Cheers, Muli -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org | http://mulix.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
On Thursday 20 October 2005 17:15, Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Man Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is her first attempt, to draw something on computer... What came out, you can find here:http://www.savefile.com/files/8597183 I am interesting in yours opinion. What are you think, do we have to continue this work (make banners, draw another pictures)? The idea of designing a sleek logo that looks nice and not like a pinguin someone drew a flag on, is a good idea. However, I have two problems with this picture. (a) It's not a logo, it's more artwork, something you'd put in a flyer. Right. (b) I don't want to be identified in any way shape or form with the image of a Haredi, Orthodox Jewish family. It contradicts my deepest values. I'm sure there are certain pictures that would draw the same reaction from religious members of the community. My point, anyway, is that Israeli and Jewish are not the same, and if you want to represent the idea of Israeli Linux you should stick to symbols that are Israeli, not Jewish. Yes, the star of David is shared by both, but if you want it to be Israeli, you really should have the complete flag. Or a Tembel hat. Or a falafel. They are anachronistic symbols, but they still say Israeli. Head covers and peot certainly do not. Agreed. However, while this artwork cannot be an official Israeli artwork, it can be used to promote Linux in the Orthodox sector. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Shlomi Fish wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 17:15, Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Man Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is her first attempt, to draw something on computer... What came out, you can find here:http://www.savefile.com/files/8597183 I am interesting in yours opinion. What are you think, do we have to continue this work (make banners, draw another pictures)? The idea of designing a sleek logo that looks nice and not like a pinguin someone drew a flag on, is a good idea. However, I have two problems with this picture. (a) It's not a logo, it's more artwork, something you'd put in a flyer. Right, and I don`t know why I wrote logo (It was 2 of night) :). The idea was - draw banners to promote Linux in Israel. Yesterday in 2 of night, I tried to compose banner from the picture that my girl-friend was draw... I didn`t get good result... After hour of work I asked myself: Does somebody need my work? My question`s: 1. Does Linux community of Israel need some art work (banners, logos, etc) to promote Linux in Israel? 2. What are you think about picture (good/not good, it look`s not professional, etc) P.S. There is no connection between picture and IGLU (or any other) community. Right. (b) I don't want to be identified in any way shape or form with the image of a Haredi, Orthodox Jewish family. It contradicts my deepest values. I'm sure there are certain pictures that would draw the same reaction from religious members of the community. My point, anyway, is that Israeli and Jewish are not the same, and if you want to represent the idea of Israeli Linux you should stick to symbols that are Israeli, not Jewish. Yes, the star of David is shared by both, but if you want it to be Israeli, you really should have the complete flag. Or a Tembel hat. Or a falafel. They are anachronistic symbols, but they still say Israeli. Head covers and peot certainly do not. Agreed. However, while this artwork cannot be an official Israeli artwork, it can be used to promote Linux in the Orthodox sector. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. -- Regards, Gregory Man PGP public key: http://keyserver.kjsl.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE5043B53 -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
On Thursday 20 October 2005 20:05, Man Gregory wrote: Shlomi Fish wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 17:15, Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Man Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is her first attempt, to draw something on computer... What came out, you can find here:http://www.savefile.com/files/8597183 I am interesting in yours opinion. What are you think, do we have to continue this work (make banners, draw another pictures)? The idea of designing a sleek logo that looks nice and not like a pinguin someone drew a flag on, is a good idea. However, I have two problems with this picture. (a) It's not a logo, it's more artwork, something you'd put in a flyer. Right, and I don`t know why I wrote logo (It was 2 of night) :). The idea was - draw banners to promote Linux in Israel. Yesterday in 2 of night, I tried to compose banner from the picture that my girl-friend was draw... I didn`t get good result... After hour of work I asked myself: Does somebody need my work? My question`s: 1. Does Linux community of Israel need some art work (banners, logos, etc) to promote Linux in Israel? We could always use more artwork. 2. What are you think about picture (good/not good, it look`s not professional, etc) It's professional and everything. Quite attractive. Don't know if it would be very effective. P.S. There is no connection between picture and IGLU (or any other) community. OK. Thanks for clarifying that. Regards, Shlomi Fish Right. (b) I don't want to be identified in any way shape or form with the image of a Haredi, Orthodox Jewish family. It contradicts my deepest values. I'm sure there are certain pictures that would draw the same reaction from religious members of the community. My point, anyway, is that Israeli and Jewish are not the same, and if you want to represent the idea of Israeli Linux you should stick to symbols that are Israeli, not Jewish. Yes, the star of David is shared by both, but if you want it to be Israeli, you really should have the complete flag. Or a Tembel hat. Or a falafel. They are anachronistic symbols, but they still say Israeli. Head covers and peot certainly do not. Agreed. However, while this artwork cannot be an official Israeli artwork, it can be used to promote Linux in the Orthodox sector. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. -- - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Shlomi Fish wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 20:05, Man Gregory wrote: Shlomi Fish wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 17:15, Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Man Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is her first attempt, to draw something on computer... What came out, you can find here:http://www.savefile.com/files/8597183 I am interesting in yours opinion. What are you think, do we have to continue this work (make banners, draw another pictures)? The idea of designing a sleek logo that looks nice and not like a pinguin someone drew a flag on, is a good idea. However, I have two problems with this picture. (a) It's not a logo, it's more artwork, something you'd put in a flyer. Right, and I don`t know why I wrote logo (It was 2 of night) :). The idea was - draw banners to promote Linux in Israel. Yesterday in 2 of night, I tried to compose banner from the picture that my girl-friend was draw... I didn`t get good result... After hour of work I asked myself: Does somebody need my work? My question`s: 1. Does Linux community of Israel need some art work (banners, logos, etc) to promote Linux in Israel? We could always use more artwork. Ok, now another BIG question: Does community ready to make a donation to promotion? Not to designer, but to show banners in popular web resources, etc. Or Linux promotion in Israel it`s just beautiful words? 2. What are you think about picture (good/not good, it look`s not professional, etc) It's professional and everything. Quite attractive. Don't know if it would be very effective. P.S. There is no connection between picture and IGLU (or any other) community. OK. Thanks for clarifying that. Regards, Shlomi Fish Right. (b) I don't want to be identified in any way shape or form with the image of a Haredi, Orthodox Jewish family. It contradicts my deepest values. I'm sure there are certain pictures that would draw the same reaction from religious members of the community. My point, anyway, is that Israeli and Jewish are not the same, and if you want to represent the idea of Israeli Linux you should stick to symbols that are Israeli, not Jewish. Yes, the star of David is shared by both, but if you want it to be Israeli, you really should have the complete flag. Or a Tembel hat. Or a falafel. They are anachronistic symbols, but they still say Israeli. Head covers and peot certainly do not. Agreed. However, while this artwork cannot be an official Israeli artwork, it can be used to promote Linux in the Orthodox sector. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%. -- Regards, Gregory Man PGP public key: http://keyserver.kjsl.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE5043B53 -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Promoting Linux in Israel (Was: Israeli Linux Logo)
On ה', 2005-10-20 at 23:21 +0200, Man Gregory wrote: Does community ready to make a donation to promotion? Not to designer, but to show banners in popular web resources, etc. Or Linux promotion in Israel it`s just beautiful words? I don't think Linux in Israel is ready for promotion to end-users. We need to attract more developers to fix the problems which are blockers[1] for wide adoptions in Israel, or otherwise firing Linux into the unsuspecting audience would quadruple support requests and amount to lots of bad press. There are more effective channels to attract developers than through colorful banners on mainstream portals, e.g. by addressing CS students. [1] Those are heaping up at various Bugzillas (GNOME, Mozilla...). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli Linux Logo
Putting the other comments aside for a moment, it seems to me that the text has a grammatical error in it. Shouldn't it be מערכת ההפעלה הכי כשרה- and not מערכת הפעלה (notice the extra heh)? --- Shoshannah Forbes http://www.xslf.com To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
