Re: GrabBee-HD
Thanks for your reply. Your feeling that VB-WinXP would be the problem sent me back to that. So I found that VB picking up USB 2.0 devices requires the Extension Pack installed with ehci controller enabled , and that cured that problem, and the device now finds it's XP driver. The grabber software loads OK and asks for the signal information. Since the software goes with this particular device, I am surprised at this - it should know it already, shouldn't it? Although the software's input is the device's output, it also seems to depend on the device's input, i.e. the HDMI stream.This stream comes via satellite dish and decoder box, and is picking up Freeview channels in Australia. Almost all of the options produce the error: Sigma Designs USB Device device does not active or error ! [sic] The best combination of options produces a good picture, but it moves very slowly and after a few seconds freezes. XP cannot then terminate the process, and neither can VB Close. So I have to VB Reset Then Ubuntu loses the device from lsusb and it needs too be unplugged and plugged in again, and VB-WinXP started again. Any assistance would be welcome - as you can probably tell, I really don't know what I'm doing. Dave On 17/10/14 07:40, Steven Toth wrote: Ok, no nobody jumped in the first time around. my turn I guess... :) Comments below. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Dave Kimbledave.kim...@riseup.net wrote: I have just bought an HDMI to USB-2.0 grabber called GrabBee-HD. http://www.greada.com/grabbeex-hd.html Motherboard photo:http://www.davekimble.org.au/computers/GrabBee-HD.jpg Inside it has chips labelled Sigma PL330B-CPE3 and iTE IT6604E. Note that it compresses the video with H.264 . I've worked on drivers for those two chips in the past. I have a large amount of experience with these parts. I knew it probably wouldn't have drivers for Linux, but it does have Windows drivers on CD, so since I run Ubuntu-VirtualBox-WinXP I thought it might well work one way or another. Correct, no Linux drivers. On Ubuntu 14.04, the USB device is picked up: $ lsusb -v -d 0658:1100 snip but it is not recognised as a video capture device by VLC. /dev/dvb/ , /dev/v4l/ , /dev/video0 do not exist. Correct. Linux has no support for that device. :( So I fired up VB-WinXP and installed the Windows drivers and software, and restarted. Then plugged in the device, which should connect the device to the driver, but it didn't. That's odd. It suggests an (off topic) windows related driver problem, or a virtual machine issue. Starting the Grabbee-HD software gives No video capture device is connected! Then I realised the USB device has to be passed through the VB interface, VB-Manager USB Add no devices available. So because Ubuntu doesn't properly recognise the device, it can't pass it on to VB and XP. I don't think the virtual machines work that way, at least not in my experience. I've always been able to do what you want to do on various platforms. Sorry, I can't really help you debug Windows / Virtual machine issues. Is there any chance of getting this going on Ubuntu 14.04 natively? Unlikely. Sigma are generally GPL unfriendly. I've done drivers for this chip on OSX before, mostly as a RD exercise, so I'm highly familiar with it. The chip is a monster to write for, kinda nasty to be honest - not very straightforward. I think you're out of luck. - Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: GrabBee-HD
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Dave Kimble dave.kim...@riseup.net wrote: Thanks for your reply. Your feeling that VB-WinXP would be the problem sent me back to that. So I found that VB picking up USB 2.0 devices requires the Extension Pack installed with ehci controller enabled , and that cured that problem, and the device now finds it's XP driver. Ahh good to know, thanks for the feedback. I generally don't use VB, I go with VMWare on multiple platforms. The grabber software loads OK and asks for the signal information. Since the software goes with this particular device, I am surprised at this - it should know it already, shouldn't it? Yes. Although the software's input is the device's output, it also seems to depend on the device's input, i.e. the HDMI stream.This stream comes via satellite dish and decoder box, and is picking up Freeview channels in Australia. Almost all of the options produce the error: Sigma Designs USB Device device does not active or error ! [sic] The best combination of options produces a good picture, but it moves very slowly and after a few seconds freezes. XP cannot then terminate the process, and neither can VB Close. So I have to VB Reset Then Ubuntu loses the device from lsusb and it needs too be unplugged and plugged in again, and VB-WinXP started again. Urgh. Any assistance would be welcome - as you can probably tell, I really don't know what I'm doing. Probably best to validate the hardware and software on its intended platform and check that everything functions properly. Who knows, maybe you've got a buggy build or a flakey stick. You may be confusing one set of problems for VB related when in fact they're something else. - Steve Dave On 17/10/14 07:40, Steven Toth wrote: Ok, no nobody jumped in the first time around. my turn I guess... :) Comments below. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Dave Kimbledave.kim...@riseup.net wrote: I have just bought an HDMI to USB-2.0 grabber called GrabBee-HD. http://www.greada.com/grabbeex-hd.html Motherboard photo:http://www.davekimble.org.au/computers/GrabBee-HD.jpg Inside it has chips labelled Sigma PL330B-CPE3 and iTE IT6604E. Note that it compresses the video with H.264 . I've worked on drivers for those two chips in the past. I have a large amount of experience with these parts. I knew it probably wouldn't have drivers for Linux, but it does have Windows drivers on CD, so since I run Ubuntu-VirtualBox-WinXP I thought it might well work one way or another. Correct, no Linux drivers. On Ubuntu 14.04, the USB device is picked up: $ lsusb -v -d 0658:1100 snip but it is not recognised as a video capture device by VLC. /dev/dvb/ , /dev/v4l/ , /dev/video0 do not exist. Correct. Linux has no support for that device. :( So I fired up VB-WinXP and installed the Windows drivers and software, and restarted. Then plugged in the device, which should connect the device to the driver, but it didn't. That's odd. It suggests an (off topic) windows related driver problem, or a virtual machine issue. Starting the Grabbee-HD software gives No video capture device is connected! Then I realised the USB device has to be passed through the VB interface, VB-Manager USB Add no devices available. So because Ubuntu doesn't properly recognise the device, it can't pass it on to VB and XP. I don't think the virtual machines work that way, at least not in my experience. I've always been able to do what you want to do on various platforms. Sorry, I can't really help you debug Windows / Virtual machine issues. Is there any chance of getting this going on Ubuntu 14.04 natively? Unlikely. Sigma are generally GPL unfriendly. I've done drivers for this chip on OSX before, mostly as a RD exercise, so I'm highly familiar with it. The chip is a monster to write for, kinda nasty to be honest - not very straightforward. I think you're out of luck. - Steve -- Steven Toth - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com +1.646.355.8490 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: GrabBee-HD
So I think this is going to be a very poor toy. Its the kind of thing I usually like to throw into my collection for the long winter nights. If you can give me a url that I can purchase this from then I may pick a unit for future tweakery. - Steve -- Steven Toth - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: GrabBee-HD
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/190-6601431-1833600?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=grabbee-hd $99.95 I got mine on eBay for $76 from Hong Kong. Now going cheap :-) Just thinking aloud: My PCs are all mini-ITX in very small cases, so PCI card solutions are not suitable. The decoder box is UEC DSD4121 using VAST (DVB-S2) with AV and HDMI outputs. There's a UEC upgrade kit to use the USB port with an external HDD to record for $65. Might try that next. Other options? Dave On 18/10/14 08:34, Steven Toth wrote: So I think this is going to be a very poor toy. Its the kind of thing I usually like to throw into my collection for the long winter nights. If you can give me a url that I can purchase this from then I may pick a unit for future tweakery. - Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
GrabBee-HD
I have just bought an HDMI to USB-2.0 grabber called GrabBee-HD. http://www.greada.com/grabbeex-hd.html Motherboard photo: http://www.davekimble.org.au/computers/GrabBee-HD.jpg Inside it has chips labelled Sigma PL330B-CPE3 and iTE IT6604E. Note that it compresses the video with H.264 . I knew it probably wouldn't have drivers for Linux, but it does have Windows drivers on CD, so since I run Ubuntu-VirtualBox-WinXP I thought it might well work one way or another. On Ubuntu 14.04, the USB device is picked up: $ lsusb -v -d 0658:1100 Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:1100 Sigma Designs, Inc. Couldn't open device, some information will be missing Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize064 idVendor 0x0658 Sigma Designs, Inc. idProduct 0x1100 bcdDevice0.00 iManufacturer 1 iProduct2 iSerial 3 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 46 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 4 bmAttributes 0x80 (Bus Powered) MaxPower 500mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 4 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 4 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 3 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 3 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 3 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 3 but it is not recognised as a video capture device by VLC. /dev/dvb/ , /dev/v4l/ , /dev/video0 do not exist. So I fired up VB-WinXP and installed the Windows drivers and software, and restarted. Then plugged in the device, which should connect the device to the driver, but it didn't. Starting the Grabbee-HD software gives No video capture device is connected! Then I realised the USB device has to be passed through the VB interface, VB-Manager USB Add no devices available. So because Ubuntu doesn't properly recognise the device, it can't pass it on to VB and XP. Is there any chance of getting this going on Ubuntu 14.04 natively? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: GrabBee-HD
Ok, no nobody jumped in the first time around. my turn I guess... :) Comments below. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Dave Kimble dave.kim...@riseup.net wrote: I have just bought an HDMI to USB-2.0 grabber called GrabBee-HD. http://www.greada.com/grabbeex-hd.html Motherboard photo: http://www.davekimble.org.au/computers/GrabBee-HD.jpg Inside it has chips labelled Sigma PL330B-CPE3 and iTE IT6604E. Note that it compresses the video with H.264 . I've worked on drivers for those two chips in the past. I have a large amount of experience with these parts. I knew it probably wouldn't have drivers for Linux, but it does have Windows drivers on CD, so since I run Ubuntu-VirtualBox-WinXP I thought it might well work one way or another. Correct, no Linux drivers. On Ubuntu 14.04, the USB device is picked up: $ lsusb -v -d 0658:1100 snip but it is not recognised as a video capture device by VLC. /dev/dvb/ , /dev/v4l/ , /dev/video0 do not exist. Correct. Linux has no support for that device. :( So I fired up VB-WinXP and installed the Windows drivers and software, and restarted. Then plugged in the device, which should connect the device to the driver, but it didn't. That's odd. It suggests an (off topic) windows related driver problem, or a virtual machine issue. Starting the Grabbee-HD software gives No video capture device is connected! Then I realised the USB device has to be passed through the VB interface, VB-Manager USB Add no devices available. So because Ubuntu doesn't properly recognise the device, it can't pass it on to VB and XP. I don't think the virtual machines work that way, at least not in my experience. I've always been able to do what you want to do on various platforms. Sorry, I can't really help you debug Windows / Virtual machine issues. Is there any chance of getting this going on Ubuntu 14.04 natively? Unlikely. Sigma are generally GPL unfriendly. I've done drivers for this chip on OSX before, mostly as a RD exercise, so I'm highly familiar with it. The chip is a monster to write for, kinda nasty to be honest - not very straightforward. I think you're out of luck. - Steve -- Steven Toth - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
GrabBee-HD
I have just bought an HDMI to USB-2.0 grabber called GrabBee-HD. http://www.greada.com/grabbeex-hd.html Motherboard photo: http://www.davekimble.org.au/computers/GrabBee-HD.jpg Inside it has chips labelled Sigma PL330B-CPE3 and iTE IT6604E. Note that it compresses the video with H.264 . I knew it probably wouldn't have drivers for Linux, but it does have Windows drivers on CD, so since I run Ubuntu-VirtualBox-WinXP I thought it might well work one way or another. On Ubuntu 14.04, the USB device is picked up: $ lsusb -v -d 0658:1100 Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:1100 Sigma Designs, Inc. Couldn't open device, some information will be missing Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize064 idVendor 0x0658 Sigma Designs, Inc. idProduct 0x1100 bcdDevice0.00 iManufacturer 1 iProduct2 iSerial 3 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 46 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 4 bmAttributes 0x80 (Bus Powered) MaxPower 500mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 4 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 4 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 3 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 3 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 3 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 3 but it is not recognised as a video capture device by VLC. /dev/dvb/ , /dev/v4l/ , /dev/video0 do not exist. So I fired up VB-WinXP and installed the Windows drivers and software, and restarted. Then plugged in the device, which should connect the device to the driver, but it didn't. Starting the Grabbee-HD software gives No video capture device is connected! Then I realised the USB device has to be passed through the VB interface, VB-Manager USB Add no devices available. So because Ubuntu doesn't properly recognise the device, it can't pass it on to VB and XP. Is there any chance of getting this going on Ubuntu 14.04 natively? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
