Re: test / FreeBSD CD mount

2005-10-20 Thread Richard Tindall

Andrew Turner wrote:


Try
mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom


ah! -t
I'll try that again then.
Thanks Andrew.

The FreeBSD mount will assume you are mounting a UFS file system. When 
the super block is incorrect it complains.


Devices on FreeBSD are automatically created and deleted with devfs. 
Unless you created a link to another device you won't need to delete 
anything from /dev


Cheers,

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qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Barry
According to the documentation it should be possible to ftp files 
to/from qemu, but how do i set this up?


I have a need to t/f files each way.

ftp is working, I can bring up a prompt in a xterm, and ftp to localhost 
in gftp. I use gftp to access my website.


Samba is installed  running. I looked at the conf file using swat and 
laltered the workgrop name to 'WORKGROUP' same as windows. I also added 
a qemu section as follows


[qemu]
comment = Temporary file space
path = /tmp
read only = No
guest ok = Yes
fstype = FAT

qemu starts windows 98 without any problem, but I need the -dummy-net 
option unless I am on line. File  print sharing is enabled. Tcp/IP is 
installed for dialup (automatic IP)  for ethernet(10.0.2.20 255.0.0.0). 
What gateway do I set?


Your ideas on what to try next are wanted

TIA

Barry



Re: Extracting from mac .bin files

2005-10-20 Thread Glynn Foster
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 18:48 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
  The obnoxious file-roller program can read them. File-roller is part of
  the obnoxious GNOME desktop, clearly.
 
 Not sure what you're getting at, but thanks for the tip. Unfortunately
 you're wrong at least for my version of gnome, where file-roller seems
 to be GUI facade without guts:
 
 /bin/sh: unstuff: command not found

Hrm, was just reading the help documentation - didn't actually read
through the code ;)

 Googling for it right at the top finds a commercial supplier but not a
 lot in the line of Linux extractor programs. But the answer to my
 question is here:
 
 http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Apps/stuffit-archives.html
 
 Easy to see why .bin is an obnoxious format. Unpacking a tar or zip just
 works, as well as a raft of other archive/compression formats.

You could always download the trial version, which gives you 15 days
without being asked to register - I'm sure you won't be dealing
with .bin's every day of the week!? 

Of course it probably requires a different version of glibc, and
probably doesn't have a nice packaging format ;)

 I also know why I don't much like gnome apps. File-roller can't even
 remember the last directory it opened a file from. I love
 click-me-to-death GUIs. Not.

Hence obnoxious - but you filed a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org, right?


Glynn



Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Fisher
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26, Barry wrote:

 Your ideas on what to try next are wanted

Try WinXP. (Not joking!)

I had troubles with Win98 in Qemu but when it worked it was as simple as
Start  Run  \\192.168.10.11
(if you use the ipaddress of the host system you do not need to add it to the 
lmhosts file)

Trouble was that it was either slow or intermittently successful.

With Win XP it works quickly and reliably. I am really happy with it. I will 
probably invest in more RAM to get better performance with it.

-- 
Regards, Robert

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(aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish)
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www.fisher.net.nz
Phone:  03 383 5807
Mobile: 027 477 3356



Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Nick Rout
I posted full instructions a week or so ago, it was a long thread so happy 
hunting!

On Thursday 20 October 2005 19:26, Barry wrote:
 According to the documentation it should be possible to ftp files
 to/from qemu, but how do i set this up?

 I have a need to t/f files each way.

 ftp is working, I can bring up a prompt in a xterm, and ftp to localhost
 in gftp. I use gftp to access my website.

 Samba is installed  running. I looked at the conf file using swat and
 laltered the workgrop name to 'WORKGROUP' same as windows. I also added
 a qemu section as follows

 [qemu]
   comment = Temporary file space
   path = /tmp
   read only = No
   guest ok = Yes
   fstype = FAT

 qemu starts windows 98 without any problem, but I need the -dummy-net
 option unless I am on line. File  print sharing is enabled. Tcp/IP is
 installed for dialup (automatic IP)  for ethernet(10.0.2.20 255.0.0.0).
 What gateway do I set?

 Your ideas on what to try next are wanted

 TIA

 Barry


Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Fisher
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:30, Nick Rout wrote:
 I posted full instructions a week or so ago, it was a long thread so happy
 hunting!

Barry, IMHO the simplest instructions were the ones on the website you posted 
about
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Qemu

Use these and the IP address as I mentioned in my last post and it just worked 
albeit with the less than satifactory reliabilty. (I kept thinking that it 
wasn't working but when I kept trying and retrying it would eventually work. 
Sometimes it would work first time without doing anything differently. WinXP 
has worked without fail)

-- 
Regards, Robert

--
Robert Fisher
(aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish)
FishNet Computer  Electrical Services
www.fisher.net.nz
Phone:  03 383 5807
Mobile: 027 477 3356



Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.

2005-10-20 Thread Isaac Devine
On 10/14/05, Michael JasonSmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 12:16 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote:
  Dunno about that - baz-ng is looking pretty interesting.
 
   http://www.bazaar-ng.org/
 
  Obviously very early stages of development though.

 I was evaluating the systems to determine which should be used by the
 third-year students, so the criteria included good documentation,
 stability, and the ability to work with firewalls. While Bazaar looks
 really nice, it may need to mature a bit :)

 --
 Michael JasonSmithhttp://ldots.org/



Did you have a look at darcs? (www.darcs.net) It's fanastic!

Isaac


Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Barry

Thanks for the reply Rob.

I went back to that page I found. It seems to presume that a network and 
file server are already set up which is not so. I have installed proftpd 
but am not sure about it being setup correctly. It is running


Robert Fisher wrote:

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26, Barry wrote:


Your ideas on what to try next are wanted



Try WinXP. (Not joking!)


Unfortunately I do not have it available


 it was as simple as
Start  Run  \\192.168.10.11


Windows replies 'the network name can not be found'. ping says'Network 
is unreachable' when offline, no reply when online
(if you use the ipaddress of the host system you do not need to add it to the 
lmhosts file)




This is a stand-alone box without any network setup at present.

Barry



Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 20 October 2005 22:58, Barry wrote:
 Thanks for the reply Rob.

 I went back to that page I found. It seems to presume that a network and
 file server are already set up which is not so. I have installed proftpd
 but am not sure about it being setup correctly. It is running

 Robert Fisher wrote:
  On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26, Barry wrote:
 Your ideas on what to try next are wanted
 
  Try WinXP. (Not joking!)

 Unfortunately I do not have it available

   it was as simple as
  Start  Run  \\192.168.10.11

 Windows replies 'the network name can not be found'. ping says'Network
 is unreachable' when offline, no reply when online

  (if you use the ipaddress of the host system you do not need to add it to
  the lmhosts file)

 This is a stand-alone box without any network setup at present.
There you go then.

Are you running a kernel + modules built by your Linux distributor or one you 
built yourself?

In order to do networking things you _have_ to have networking enabled in the 
kernel, You need to either load the networking modules or compile them in. 
However if the only 'networking' you are trying to do is between the qemu 
environment and the Linux host machine fairly obviously you will not need to 
build any drivers for Network Interface Cards.

-- 
CS


RE: Telstraclear boo boo

2005-10-20 Thread Craig FALCONER
OI!  I did NOT say that!  Get your quoting right!

*GLARE*

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2005 10:35 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Telstraclear boo boo


On Thursday 20 October 2005 08:50, Craig FALCONER wrote:
 but they could've sent emails out as a warning at least.

That would have been nice, but remember that their purpose in life is to
yield 
the maximum possible return on their shareholder's investments. Being nice 
costs money, so is not part of their business plan.

If they really want to be a cool ISP they might consider redesigning their 
aesthetically beautiful, but functionally awful web site. It would be nice
if 
it includee a RSS news feed for the vital service messages, and the traffic 
volume consumption.

On second thoughts, perhaps no. The corporate marketing spivs would not be 
able resist the temptation to put adverts on it.

-- 
CS



Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Fisher
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:58, Barry wrote:

 Windows replies 'the network name can not be found'. ping says'Network
 is unreachable' when offline, no reply when online

  (if you use the ipaddress of the host system you do not need to add it to
  the lmhosts file)

 This is a stand-alone box without any network setup at present.

Just use, as I said above, the IP address of your host system (the Linux box)

-- 
Regards, Robert

--
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(aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish)
FishNet Computer  Electrical Services
www.fisher.net.nz
Phone:  03 383 5807
Mobile: 027 477 3356



Re: Telstraclear boo boo

2005-10-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Thu 20 Oct 2005 10:43:19 NZDT +1300, Craig FALCONER wrote:

 OI!  I did NOT say that!  Get your quoting right!

Well your top-posting and bad quoting style was asking for it.

Volker

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Re: Extracting from mac .bin files

2005-10-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Hi Glynn,

 You could always download the trial version, which gives you 15 days
 without being asked to register - I'm sure you won't be dealing
 with .bin's every day of the week!? 

I surely hope not!! But yes, downloading the commercial version is the
only reliable course of action, but it's always worth trying macunpack
from the macutils package first (included in every distro). There are a
lot of references to various related command line programs which got
eaten by the course of history, it can be a bit confusing.

 Of course it probably requires a different version of glibc, and
 probably doesn't have a nice packaging format ;)

No it seems fine, simple tar file and ldd shows no problems. I won't run
it now as I don't want to have to track its invasiveness at this point
(the 15 day timebomb has to work somehow).

  I also know why I don't much like gnome apps. File-roller can't even
  remember the last directory it opened a file from. I love
  click-me-to-death GUIs. Not.
 
 Hence obnoxious - but you filed a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org, right?

No, because I get the strong feeling that this is a deliberate design
decision and that the gnomes like it that way.

Volker

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Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Nick Rout
Barry you seem majorly confused between ftp and smb networking.

What is it that you are trying to do?
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26:06 +1300
Barry wrote:

 According to the documentation it should be possible to ftp files 
 to/from qemu, but how do i set this up?
 
 I have a need to t/f files each way.
 
 ftp is working, I can bring up a prompt in a xterm, and ftp to localhost 
 in gftp. I use gftp to access my website.
 
 Samba is installed  running. I looked at the conf file using swat and 
 laltered the workgrop name to 'WORKGROUP' same as windows. I also added 
 a qemu section as follows
 
 [qemu]
   comment = Temporary file space
   path = /tmp
   read only = No
   guest ok = Yes
   fstype = FAT
 
 qemu starts windows 98 without any problem, but I need the -dummy-net 
 option unless I am on line. File  print sharing is enabled. Tcp/IP is 
 installed for dialup (automatic IP)  for ethernet(10.0.2.20 255.0.0.0). 
 What gateway do I set?
 
 Your ideas on what to try next are wanted
 
 TIA
 
 Barry

-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Errors in quoting was RE: Telstraclear boo boo

2005-10-20 Thread Craig FALCONER
A simple whoops!  Sorry!  would be fine thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 21 October 2005 8:43 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Telstraclear boo boo


On Thu 20 Oct 2005 10:43:19 NZDT +1300, Craig FALCONER wrote:

 OI!  I did NOT say that!  Get your quoting right!

Well your top-posting and bad quoting style was asking for it.

Volker



Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Nick Rout
Barry: please do the following in the windows virtual machine running on
qemu:

Click Start|Run
in the run command box that appears type winipcfg then enter

This will tell you what the ip address of the windows machine is. There
is a drop down box - make sure you choose the right adaptor. The address
should be something in the range of 10.0.2.x

The address of the linux machine should be 10.0.2.2

If you have your ftp server set up on the linux box try ftp'ing into it
from the windows VM. Start a msdos command line thingy and simply type

ftp 10.0.2.2

Feed back the results.


On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:07:00 +1300
Nick Rout wrote:

 Barry you seem majorly confused between ftp and smb networking.
 
 What is it that you are trying to do?
 On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26:06 +1300
 Barry wrote:
 
  According to the documentation it should be possible to ftp files 
  to/from qemu, but how do i set this up?
  


-- 
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Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Ross Drummond
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:25, Nick Rout wrote:
 Barry: please do the following in the windows virtual machine running on
 qemu:

The default proftp instalation on Mandrake allows users on the server to log 
in as themselves and opens by default in their home directory.

Useful to know if the sever demands a login  password.

Cheers Ross Drummond


Re: qemu file transfer.

2005-10-20 Thread Nick Rout

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:21:30 +1300
Ross Drummond wrote:

 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:25, Nick Rout wrote:
  Barry: please do the following in the windows virtual machine running on
  qemu:
 
 The default proftp instalation on Mandrake allows users on the server to log 
 in as themselves and opens by default in their home directory.
 
 Useful to know if the sever demands a login  password.
 
 Cheers Ross Drummond

I had assumed barry knew what to do to log in to an ftp server.

however, assumption is the mother of screwups.

-- 
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OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?

2005-10-20 Thread Nick Rout
Any mail I have sent to an xtra address in the last hour or three is
stuck in the mail queue. Telnetting on port 25 hangs. I am on a paradise
IP (adsl).


-- 
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Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?

2005-10-20 Thread Hadley Rich
On Friday 21 October 2005 13:39, Nick Rout wrote:
 Any mail I have sent to an xtra address in the last hour or three is
 stuck in the mail queue. Telnetting on port 25 hangs. I am on a paradise
 IP (adsl).

Indeed, from the discussion on NZNOG it appears Xtra's SMTP has been playing 
up since last night.

HTH

hads

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Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?

2005-10-20 Thread Andrew Errington
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:42, you wrote:
 On Friday 21 October 2005 13:39, Nick Rout wrote:
  Any mail I have sent to an xtra address in the last hour or three is
  stuck in the mail queue. Telnetting on port 25 hangs. I am on a
  paradise IP (adsl).

 Indeed, from the discussion on NZNOG it appears Xtra's SMTP has been
 playing up since last night.

If only ISP's had a way to get this sort of information out to their 
customers.  Perhaps they could send an email to everyone.  It seems like 
the obvious way.

=:^P

A


Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?

2005-10-20 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 21 October 2005 14:19, Andrew Errington wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:42, you wrote:
  On Friday 21 October 2005 13:39, Nick Rout wrote:
   Any mail I have sent to an xtra address in the last hour or three is
   stuck in the mail queue. Telnetting on port 25 hangs.  I am on a
   paradise IP (adsl).
 
  Indeed, from the discussion on NZNOG it appears Xtra's SMTP has been
  playing up since last night.

 If only ISP's had a way to get this sort of information out to their
 customers.  Perhaps they could send an email to everyone.  It seems like
 the obvious way.

 Perhaps they could send an email to everyone.

But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order.
I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS.

I wonder if there are any Faithful ISP employee types subscribing to this 
list who could bring this to the attention of their respective managements, 
because it would be _very_ useful.

-- 
CS


Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?

2005-10-20 Thread Nick Rout

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:00:33 +1300
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 
  Perhaps they could send an email to everyone.
 
 But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order.

Geez some people just don't do irony!

 I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS.
 

I don't really want to subscribe to every isp on the planet's today's
problem rss feed thanks. It's hard enough keeping up with slashdot,
tvtorrents, planet gentoo, uknova, clug's rss feed, lx'er and numerous
podcasts.

BTW xtra do have this helpful service announcement:

Network Status

Current Status
There is currently 1 known problem with the Xtra Network
Unscheduled Event
System(s) Affected:
Sending Email
Products Affected:
All Connections
System(s) Response:
Responding Slowly
Current Status:
Confirmed
Resolution Expected:
Unknown 
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Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?

2005-10-20 Thread Steve Holdoway

On Fri, October 21, 2005 3:00 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:

 But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order.
 I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS.

A recent survey showed that well under 5% of regular computer users had
even heard of RSS, let alone used it.

What's wrong with the web page concept as a backup for the M$^H^H
technologically challenged?


Steve

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Love like your heart has never been broken and
Dance like no one can see you.


Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?

2005-10-20 Thread sirlancelot
Maybe then it would be a good topic for a shortish discussion at one of 
the meetings. I have to admit to being one of those who have so far 
ignored this technology, but i'd be interested to listen to a discussion 
of the why's and wherefore's.


Lance B

Steve Holdoway wrote:


On Fri, October 21, 2005 3:00 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 


But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order.
I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS.

   


A recent survey showed that well under 5% of regular computer users had
even heard of RSS, let alone used it.

What's wrong with the web page concept as a backup for the M$^H^H
technologically challenged?


Steve

 



Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?

2005-10-20 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Friday 21 October 2005 15:49, sirlancelot wrote:
 Maybe then it would be a good topic for a shortish discussion at one of
 the meetings. I have to admit to being one of those who have so far
 ignored this technology, but i'd be interested to listen to a discussion
 of the why's and wherefore's.

 Lance B

 Steve Holdoway wrote:
 On Fri, October 21, 2005 3:00 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order.
 I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS.
 
 A recent survey showed that well under 5% of regular computer users had
 even heard of RSS, let alone used it.
 
 What's wrong with the web page concept as a backup for the M$^H^H
 technologically challenged?
Nothing much except:
Web = Dozens of clicks to find the gem of info, and you ask them.
RSS = No clicks, and they tell you automatically.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/rss/default.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fconnected%2F2003%2F11%2F05%2Fecrboot05.xml

Doubtless there are _dozens_ of others.

-- 
CS