USB turntables, anyone?
I've got some vinyl that I'd like to transfer to one or t'other digital medium. Is it true that there is a USB turntable for percisely this purpose? If so, and someone's got a copy of it, please let me konw. I want to get the likes of Sneaky Pete Kleinow, Buddy Emmons, Winnie Winston etc, onto something I can listen to on a regular basis. thanks Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - Gaul is quartered into three halves. Things which are impossible are equal to each other. Guerrilla warfare means up to their monkey tricks. Extracts from Schoolboy Howlers - the collective wisdom of the foolish. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
On Monday 02 February 2009 00:00:37 Wesley Parish wrote: I've got some vinyl that I'd like to transfer to one or t'other digital medium. Is it true that there is a USB turntable for percisely this purpose? Yes, for example:- http://www.guardianoffers.co.uk/mall/productpage.cfm/GuardianOffers/_TRUVTT001/-/Veho- VTT-001-Piano-Black-USB-Turntable Linux compatibility unknown. -- With Sincerity, Christopher Sawtell
Fwd: USB turntables, anyone?
Buuger reply to went to chris not the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:08 AM Subject: Re: USB turntables, anyone? To: csawt...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 02 February 2009 00:00:37 Wesley Parish wrote: I've got some vinyl that I'd like to transfer to one or t'other digital medium. Is it true that there is a USB turntable for percisely this purpose? Yes, for example:- http://www.guardianoffers.co.uk/mall/productpage.cfm/GuardianOffers/_TRUVTT001/-/Veho- VTT-001-Piano-Black-USB-Turntable Linux compatibility unknown. most usb audio stuff works under linux, but no guarantees. I see it is bundled with audacity - open source software! nice. of course there is nothing to stop you plugging your linux box into the tape out plugs on your amplifier and recording an ordinary turntable. there is even linux software dedicated to the task - gramophile I think its called. add to that its gramofile http://www.opensourcepartners.nl/~costar/gramofile/
Re: Fwd: USB turntables, anyone?
I can lend a battery powered preamp/old creative sound card, but not too happy carting my turntable all over the place! Steve On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:12:01 +1300 Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: Buuger reply to went to chris not the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:08 AM Subject: Re: USB turntables, anyone? To: csawt...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 02 February 2009 00:00:37 Wesley Parish wrote: I've got some vinyl that I'd like to transfer to one or t'other digital medium. Is it true that there is a USB turntable for percisely this purpose? Yes, for example:- http://www.guardianoffers.co.uk/mall/productpage.cfm/GuardianOffers/_TRUVTT001/-/Veho- VTT-001-Piano-Black-USB-Turntable Linux compatibility unknown. most usb audio stuff works under linux, but no guarantees. I see it is bundled with audacity - open source software! nice. of course there is nothing to stop you plugging your linux box into the tape out plugs on your amplifier and recording an ordinary turntable. there is even linux software dedicated to the task - gramophile I think its called. add to that its gramofile http://www.opensourcepartners.nl/~costar/gramofile/ -- Steve st...@greengecko.co.nz
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
I've got some vinyl that I'd like to transfer to one or t'other digital medium. Is it true that there is a USB turntable for percisely this purpose? Maybe, maybe not, the question doesn't arise in the first place. If you have a good quality old analog turntable, why on earth would you shell out for another lousy one with unknown Linux compatibility just because it has a USB plug on it? If you are into audio, you have a decent quality sound card. Hook up your turntable to your amp (which it is already), hook up amp line-out to soundcard line-in, run your favourite recording app, done. Well sort of done, then you do the job of digitally enhancing the recording before putting it into your archive. Unfortunately there isn't any good quality audio software around. Quick-job open source audio filters are probably barely what you want, however if you don't care you're set to go. Note that simply chopping a continuous recording into track-like pieces is the trivial bit, there are numerous programs for that (I made one too). Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
Wesley Parish wrote, On 02/02/09 00:00: I've got some vinyl that I'd like to transfer to one or t'other digital medium. Is it true that there is a USB turntable for percisely this purpose? If so, and someone's got a copy of it, please let me konw. I want to get the likes of Sneaky Pete Kleinow, Buddy Emmons, Winnie Winston etc, onto something I can listen to on a regular basis. I've done some of this a few years ago. I used a normal record player plugged through the turntable in on my amp, and had the computer connected to the tape recorder in/outputs. Quality was better than I expected, but still not great. I'd recommend you get these recordings from CD if you possibly can. Even search the net. -- Craig Falconer
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
Hi Wesley, As others have pointed out, if you have a record player already then you can hook it up to the audio input of your PC sound card and record the sound that way. If you don't have one then they are easily found at Jaycar (stock codes GE4056, GE4057, GE4059 are the obvious ones, about $150 to $200, but they have more). Dickies lists one with USB output (A0764). It's expensive at $299 (but it's a Sony!). There may be others available, but Jaycar and Dickies are the obvious local suppliers. No idea about Linux compatibility. Have fun, Andrew On Mon, February 2, 2009 00:00, Wesley Parish wrote: I've got some vinyl that I'd like to transfer to one or t'other digital medium. Is it true that there is a USB turntable for percisely this purpose? If so, and someone's got a copy of it, please let me konw. I want to get the likes of Sneaky Pete Kleinow, Buddy Emmons, Winnie Winston etc, onto something I can listen to on a regular basis. thanks Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - Gaul is quartered into three halves. Things which are impossible are equal to each other. Guerrilla warfare means up to their monkey tricks. Extracts from Schoolboy Howlers - the collective wisdom of the foolish. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Hi Wesley, As others have pointed out, if you have a record player already then you can hook it up to the audio input of your PC sound card and record the sound that way. Actually you are far better off with a preamp. IIRC levels (impedance?) from turntables don't match well with line-in on a sound card.
CLUG Baseball Cap
Hi, Long story short, many years ago I had several caps left over from a job so I had them embroidered with Tux and CLUG. In the process of moving houses they disappeared, presumed thrown out. I found them Yesterday. They are: Brushed Heavy Cotton with Suede Peak Structured 6 Panel Low Profile Pre-Curved Peak Brushed Cotton Under Fabric Covered Short Touch Strap Image at http://tinyurl.com/clugcap Free to anyone who wants one (if you live out of Christchurch you'll have to stump up for the postage). They'll be in the wheellie bin on Friday if there are no takers; please contact me off-list. Cheers, Chris
Re: CLUG Baseball Cap
Yes please, if still available. At 10:45 a.m. 2/02/2009, you wrote: Hi, Long story short, many years ago I had several caps left over from a job so I had them embroidered with Tux and CLUG. In the process of moving houses they disappeared, presumed thrown out. I found them Yesterday. They are: Brushed Heavy Cotton with Suede Peak Structured 6 Panel Low Profile Pre-Curved Peak Brushed Cotton Under Fabric Covered Short Touch Strap Image at http://tinyurl.com/clugcap Free to anyone who wants one (if you live out of Christchurch you'll have to stump up for the postage). They'll be in the wheellie bin on Friday if there are no takers; please contact me off-list. Cheers, Chris
Re: CLUG Baseball Cap
Ooops, sorry, cancel that At 10:55 a.m. 2/02/2009, you wrote: Yes please, if still available. At 10:45 a.m. 2/02/2009, you wrote: Hi, Long story short, many years ago I had several caps left over from a job so I had them embroidered with Tux and CLUG. In the process of moving houses they disappeared, presumed thrown out. I found them Yesterday. They are: Brushed Heavy Cotton with Suede Peak Structured 6 Panel Low Profile Pre-Curved Peak Brushed Cotton Under Fabric Covered Short Touch Strap Image at http://tinyurl.com/clugcap Free to anyone who wants one (if you live out of Christchurch you'll have to stump up for the postage). They'll be in the wheellie bin on Friday if there are no takers; please contact me off-list. Cheers, Chris
Re: CLUG Baseball Cap
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Chris Downie 9...@xnet.co.nz wrote: Long story short, many years ago I had several caps left over from a job so I had them embroidered with Tux and CLUG. In the process of moving houses they disappeared, presumed thrown out. I found them Yesterday. Free to anyone who wants one (if you live out of Christchurch you'll have to stump up for the postage). They'll be in the wheellie bin on Friday if there are no takers; please contact me off-list. Don't wheelie bin them; get them down to the next meeting and distribute them there :-) If you can't get to the meeting, I'm sure someone else will take the whole lot off your hands for you. -jim
Re: CLUG Baseball Cap
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Chris Downie 9...@xnet.co.nz wrote: Hi, Long story short, many years ago I had several caps left over from a job so I had them embroidered with Tux and CLUG. In the process of moving houses they disappeared, presumed thrown out. I found them Yesterday. They are: Brushed Heavy Cotton with Suede Peak Structured 6 Panel Low Profile Pre-Curved Peak Brushed Cotton Under Fabric Covered Short Touch Strap Image at http://tinyurl.com/clugcap Free to anyone who wants one (if you live out of Christchurch you'll have to stump up for the postage). They'll be in the wheellie bin on Friday so long as you love your rubbish and put them in the right bin! if there are no takers; please contact me off-list. Cheers, Chris
Re: CLUG Baseball Cap
Thank you fellow geeks ;-) all the caps have been spoken for. I'll contact the recipients personally this evening when I get home. Cheers, Chris
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Hi Wesley, As others have pointed out, if you have a record player already then you can hook it up to the audio input of your PC sound card and record the sound that way. Actually you are far better off with a preamp. IIRC levels (impedance?) from turntables don't match well with line-in on a sound card. There are at least three factors to consider when hooking up a turntable to a sound card: * signal level -- some turntable cartridges give very low output, often lower than microphone levels * impedance -- some turntable cartridges have high output impedance, which needs an amplifier or preamp of high input impedance * equalisation -- records are recorded with high-frequencies boosted and low frequencies cut; during playback, you need an RIAA equalisation filter to correct this Your best solution is as recommended: plug a turntable into a amplifier with a 'phono' input and record using a sound-card connected to the tape-recorder outputs. You could try connecting a turntable output to a microphone input and apply the equalisation in software after recording (Audacity has an RIAA equalisation filter), but you would probably do better to use a real hardware preamp to ensure that the levels and impedance are correct. Stephen Irons === This email, including any attachments, is only for the intended addressee. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be the subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or lost by reason of this transmission. If the receiver is not the intended addressee, please accept our apologies, notify us by return, delete all copies and perform no other act on the email. Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been altered or corrupted during transmission. ===
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Stephen Irons stephen.ir...@tait.co.nz wrote: Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Hi Wesley, As others have pointed out, if you have a record player already then you can hook it up to the audio input of your PC sound card and record the sound that way. Actually you are far better off with a preamp. IIRC levels (impedance?) from turntables don't match well with line-in on a sound card. There are at least three factors to consider when hooking up a turntable to a sound card: * signal level -- some turntable cartridges give very low output, often lower than microphone levels * impedance -- some turntable cartridges have high output impedance, which needs an amplifier or preamp of high input impedance * equalisation -- records are recorded with high-frequencies boosted and low frequencies cut; during playback, you need an RIAA equalisation filter to correct this Your best solution is as recommended: plug a turntable into a amplifier with a 'phono' input and record using a sound-card connected to the tape-recorder outputs. You could try connecting a turntable output to a microphone input and apply the equalisation in software after recording (Audacity has an RIAA equalisation filter), but you would probably do better to use a real hardware preamp to ensure that the levels and impedance are correct. Stephen Irons yeah thats what I meant LOL. Ironically vinyl rips are becoming popular on the net, heres the guide from one serious ripping site: The following guide will show you how to rip a vinyl record to FLAC. For 24bit/96khz vinyl ripping see Vinyl Ripping: 24bit 96khz For a guide on vinyl equipment, see Vinyl Ripping: Equipment You will need the following things: 1. Vinyl record. Preferably mint or never before played. 2. Turntable. Make sure it has a good stereo balance, you may have to repair the connector cables if it doesn't. Also, buy the most expensive needle you can find. 3. Phono Preamp. A phono preamp is basically the part of a receiver that makes your record loud enough for your speakers, inside a tiny case. Make sure the one you buy includes an RCA 1/8th converter, or you will have to get one at Radioshack, or wherever electronic components are sold. The adapter will let you connect your preamp to your computers line-in jack. I bought mine from http://phonopreamps.com 4. Audacity. Audacity is a very easy to use, open source audio editor. You can download it here for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Audacity will be recording your vinyl to WAV. 5. FLAC. FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec. It is the best audio compression algorithm available for a few reasons. One: Open Source, no licensing things, so the man won't get your money. Two: No quality loss. Three: Wide support among operating systems. You can download FLAC here. Now that we have all this stuff together, we need to hook everything up. 1. Plug in your turntable, put record on turntable. Hook it up to the IN jacks of your phono preamp. 2. Plug in your phono preamp, Hook it up to the line-in jack of your computer. 3. Open Audacity. Set the drop down box under the Fast-Foward button to Line In. Now for the soundcheck. 1. Drop the needle onto a loud spot on the record, and press record in Audacity. Adjust the input levels in audacity, and in your computers volume control application until the waveform has dynamic range (If the waveform is just blue, your music will sound flat and distorted). The waveform should not go past the window it is inside. If so, you have to lower levels and should soundcheck again. The waveform should be close to the edges of the window, but it is better safe than sorry. You can always Amplify a midlevel waveform, but clipping is an uneditable sin. Play back the track to test quality. If there is a lot of crackling, this can remedied by cleaning the vinyl. If the vinyl is old it probably has dust, so you should clean it as well. To clean the vinyl, wet a Kleenex with rubbing alcohol and wipe the record in a circular motion. Then dry it off. This will remove dust. OiNK user weirdcrap suggests using a vacuum to remove some dust. 2. Now x out of the test track. Place the needle on the outer edge of the record, and press record in Audacity. 3. Once the side is done playing, press stop, and remove excess gaps at the beginning and end. You have a few options at this point. a) If the album side is one track, just export it as a wav, by clicking File Export As Wav... b) If the album side has individual tracks, select the track, and click File Export Selection As Wav... You will need to repeat this step for each track c) If the album is a one track flows into the next type deal, export it as one track, and generate a cue file for it. (this will be covered later) Repeat this step for each side. (DON'T use Noise Reduction. I've heard it on some
Re: CLUG Baseball Cap
Hi Chris, If you have any left, I would not mind one or even a pair of your caps. As I am disabled and don't get around much, I would be happy to pay postage on this item. Tell me how much postage is and banking details and I will deposit the money to your account. My address is: Jerome B Newell 10 Clent Lane Spreydon Christchurch 8024 Ph (03) 960-1664 Many thanks Jerome B (bnew...@clear.net.nz) - Original Message - From: Chris Downie 9...@xnet.co.nz To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:45 AM Subject: CLUG Baseball Cap Hi, Long story short, many years ago I had several caps left over from a job so I had them embroidered with Tux and CLUG. In the process of moving houses they disappeared, presumed thrown out. I found them Yesterday. They are: Brushed Heavy Cotton with Suede Peak Structured 6 Panel Low Profile Pre-Curved Peak Brushed Cotton Under Fabric Covered Short Touch Strap Image at http://tinyurl.com/clugcap Free to anyone who wants one (if you live out of Christchurch you'll have to stump up for the postage). They'll be in the wheellie bin on Friday if there are no takers; please contact me off-list. Cheers, Chris
Subversion 503 in response to OPTIONS request
Just for the record: We had a problem with a Subversion (svn) client being unable to access the repository: Server sent unexpected return value (503 Service Unavailable) in response to OPTIONS request Deleted (actually just moved) the user's ~/.subversion/ directory and tried again (had to re-enter authentication info) and the problem has gone away. For now, in any case. Douglas. === This email, including any attachments, is only for the intended addressee. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be the subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or lost by reason of this transmission. If the receiver is not the intended addressee, please accept our apologies, notify us by return, delete all copies and perform no other act on the email. Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been altered or corrupted during transmission. ===
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
Actually you are far better off with a preamp. IIRC levels (impedance?) from turntables don't match well with line-in on a sound card. Nailed. That's why I said to connect the amp's line-out to line-in... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
Thanks. That's what I needed to know. Yes, I've got a turntable, with stereo output; I've got an amplifier - a nice little Fender Harvard. I just don't know how to connect the two together and then to my soundcard. Wesley Parish Quoting Stephen Irons stephen.ir...@tait.co.nz: Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Hi Wesley, As others have pointed out, if you have a record player already then you can hook it up to the audio input of your PC sound card and record the sound that way. Actually you are far better off with a preamp. IIRC levels (impedance?) from turntables don't match well with line-in on a sound card. There are at least three factors to consider when hooking up a turntable to a sound card: * signal level -- some turntable cartridges give very low output, often lower than microphone levels * impedance -- some turntable cartridges have high output impedance, which needs an amplifier or preamp of high input impedance * equalisation -- records are recorded with high-frequencies boosted and low frequencies cut; during playback, you need an RIAA equalisation filter to correct this Your best solution is as recommended: plug a turntable into a amplifier with a 'phono' input and record using a sound-card connected to the tape-recorder outputs. You could try connecting a turntable output to a microphone input and apply the equalisation in software after recording (Audacity has an RIAA equalisation filter), but you would probably do better to use a real hardware preamp to ensure that the levels and impedance are correct. Stephen Irons = == This email, including any attachments, is only for the intended addressee. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be the subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or lost by reason of this transmission. If the receiver is not the intended addressee, please accept our apologies, notify us by return, delete all copies and perform no other act on the email. Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been altered or corrupted during transmission. = == Sharpened hands are happy hands. Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands - A Deepness in the Sky, Vernor Vinge I me. Shape middled me. I would come out into hot! I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a symbol of the other horizon. - emacs : meta x dissociated-press
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
Wesley Parish wrote, On 02/02/09 20:08: Yes, I've got a turntable, with stereo output; I've got an amplifier - a nice little Fender Harvard. I just don't know how to connect the two together and then to my soundcard. Nice - but that's a valve-based guitar amp, not a home stereo amp (aka receiver And from memory... it goes up to 12. Eat that, Spinal Tap! -- Craig Falconer
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
Yes, my turntable's part of a single-unit stereo outfit. That's why it's got a two speaker output setup. And I suspect overdriving the Fender Harvard might work on some of the blues albums I've got, but not on my Renaissance Broken Consort ones ... ;) Wesley Parish Quoting Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz: Wesley Parish wrote, On 02/02/09 20:08: Yes, I've got a turntable, with stereo output; I've got an amplifier - a nice little Fender Harvard. I just don't know how to connect the two together and then to my soundcard. Nice - but that's a valve-based guitar amp, not a home stereo amp (aka receiver And from memory... it goes up to 12. Eat that, Spinal Tap! -- Craig Falconer Sharpened hands are happy hands. Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands - A Deepness in the Sky, Vernor Vinge I me. Shape middled me. I would come out into hot! I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a symbol of the other horizon. - emacs : meta x dissociated-press
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
2009/2/2 Wesley Parish wes.par...@paradise.net.nz: Yes, my turntable's part of a single-unit stereo outfit. So, presumably it hasn't got a line output socket? -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: USB turntables, anyone?
Christopher Sawtell wrote: 2009/2/2 Wesley Parish wes.par...@paradise.net.nz: Yes, my turntable's part of a single-unit stereo outfit. So, presumably it hasn't got a line output socket? Or even a headphone socket. Rex
