Re: Getting started with 802.11

2009-04-07 Thread Andrew Errington
On Wed, April 8, 2009 10:35, Nick Rout wrote:

> I have had no real problems with ubuntu/mythbuntu 8.04 or 8.10 using
> atheros chipsets, using the standard network manager and no extra packages.
>

Indeed, I am using Mepis 8.0, which is based on Debian Lenny, and the
stock utilities 'just work'.

The key points are:

* Ensure the correct module is loaded to drive your wifi chipset
(sometimes there may be 2 or 3 that will work, so you migh tneed to
blacklist one).
* Find a wifi utility that you like.  I used to use Kwifimanager, but
knetworkmanager seems ok to me, and I have heard wicd recommended many
times.
* Be aware that the driver might not 'come back' after a suspend, or the
wifi kill switch status may not be indicated to you by any means.  For the
Aspire One I added a little script that stops and starts wifi0 upon resume
(I haven't found a utility to show the status of the kill switch).

The fact that you have demonstrated the wifi working on another OS is
reassuring.  You shouldn't really have to fiddle with it in Linux these
days to get it going.  In fact, Mepis worked remarkably well for me on my
old ThinkPad with PCMCIA wifi, and my new Aspire One.

HTH,

A




RE: Getting started with 802.11

2009-04-07 Thread Gauland, Michael
If the details help, I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 on an HP Pavilion ZE4300;
the wireless interface is an 'SMC EZ Connect' USB stick.

 

From: zed...@gmail.com [mailto:zed...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of David Lowe
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2009 11:23 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Getting started with 802.11

 

We probably need more information... which distro? what hardware?

If you are using ndswrapper then presumably you think you have an issue
with drivers. That can be a b%^*ch. Google the specifics of your
hardware.

Ubuntu's network manager has issues with wireless. Try installing wicd -
it solved all sorts of problems for me.

- D

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Gauland, Michael
 wrote:

If we haven't actually entered the modern age, we're at least standing
on its doorstep, huddled against the cold and rain, peering jealously at
the wonders within.

 

What I mean is, we've finally been able to move beyond dial-up to
something approaching reasonable network speeds, thanks to the folks at
No. 8 Wireless. The next into the modern age is to get my laptop
networking wirelessly under Ubuntu.  I've installed 'ndiswrapper',  and
the USB stick seems to be working. 'wifi-radar' reports finding the
router, but I haven't been able to get a connection up. 

 

[In the interest of full disclosure, I will admit that I got it
connected under Windows XP, but what good does that really do me?  It
does show the hardware works, though]

 

Google, bless whatever passes for its helpful little soul, provides all
sorts of hits for various combinations of likely-sounding search terms.
Rather than trawling through the twenty-three-million websites Google
believes (with perhaps an overabundance of optimism) are Just What I'm
Looking For, I thought I'd start ask the kind folks here.  So, any
recommendations for an up-to-date, concise, 'wi-fi' how-to?

 

Thanks,

Mike

 

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RE: Getting started with 802.11

2009-04-07 Thread Payne, Owen
On a similar note I have a usb wireless card that I use for an old computer 
using knoppix and it has a problem detecting this at startup. No wireless card 
is detected and I cannot start it at all. Is there a trick to getting usb 
wireless cards detected? Once it is detected it should be no issue configuring 
and bringing it up. But does anyone have any ideas what I should do to detect 
it.

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:nick.r...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2009 1:36 pm
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Getting started with 802.11

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Roy Britten  wrote:
> 2009/4/8 Gauland, Michael :
>>  The next into the modern age is to get my laptop networking 
>> wirelessly under Ubuntu.  I've installed 'ndiswrapper',  and the USB 
>> stick seems to be working. 'wifi-radar' reports finding the router, 
>> but I haven't been able to get a connection up.
>
> And what are you running?
>
> If any of the 8.10 *buntus, ignore all the out-of-date advice on the 
> Interwebs regarding installing additional packages. It often (based on 
> very limited personal experience and some Googling) Just Works if you 
> leave it as a standard setup and enable the backports repository. (And 
> update and upgrade forthwith.) Installing ndiswrapper may or may not 
> adversely affect your results.
>
> Roy.
>

Recommendation: use an atheros card if at all possible. They just work on linux.

Unfortunately your laptop may have given you no choice of chipset, but often 
they are mini-pci and you can swap out a broadcom etc for an atheros based one.

I have had no real problems with ubuntu/mythbuntu 8.04 or 8.10 using atheros 
chipsets, using the standard network manager and no extra packages.

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Re: Getting started with 802.11

2009-04-07 Thread Christopher Sawtell
2009/4/8 Nick Rout :
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Roy Britten  wrote:
>> 2009/4/8 Gauland, Michael :
>>>  The next into the modern age is to get my laptop networking
>>> wirelessly under Ubuntu.  I’ve installed ‘ndiswrapper’,  and the USB stick
>>> seems to be working. ‘wifi-radar’ reports finding the router, but I haven’t
>>> been able to get a connection up.
>>
>> And what are you running?
>>
>> If any of the 8.10 *buntus, ignore all the out-of-date advice on the
>> Interwebs regarding installing additional packages. It often (based on
>> very limited personal experience and some Googling) Just Works if you
>> leave it as a standard setup and enable the backports repository. (And
>> update and upgrade forthwith.) Installing ndiswrapper may or may not
>> adversely affect your results.
>>
>> Roy.
>>
>
> Recommendation: use an atheros card if at all possible. They just work on 
> linux.
>
> Unfortunately your laptop may have given you no choice of chipset, but
> often they are mini-pci and you can swap out a broadcom etc for an
> atheros based one.
>
> I have had no real problems with ubuntu/mythbuntu 8.04 or 8.10 using
> atheros chipsets, using the standard network manager and no extra
> packages.

Intel wifi cards have Intel-written drivers in the Linux Kernel sources.
They work perfectly too.

I have an eleven megabit one you could buy if you want it.

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Re: Getting started with 802.11

2009-04-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Roy Britten  wrote:
> 2009/4/8 Gauland, Michael :
>>  The next into the modern age is to get my laptop networking
>> wirelessly under Ubuntu.  I’ve installed ‘ndiswrapper’,  and the USB stick
>> seems to be working. ‘wifi-radar’ reports finding the router, but I haven’t
>> been able to get a connection up.
>
> And what are you running?
>
> If any of the 8.10 *buntus, ignore all the out-of-date advice on the
> Interwebs regarding installing additional packages. It often (based on
> very limited personal experience and some Googling) Just Works if you
> leave it as a standard setup and enable the backports repository. (And
> update and upgrade forthwith.) Installing ndiswrapper may or may not
> adversely affect your results.
>
> Roy.
>

Recommendation: use an atheros card if at all possible. They just work on linux.

Unfortunately your laptop may have given you no choice of chipset, but
often they are mini-pci and you can swap out a broadcom etc for an
atheros based one.

I have had no real problems with ubuntu/mythbuntu 8.04 or 8.10 using
atheros chipsets, using the standard network manager and no extra
packages.


Re: Getting started with 802.11

2009-04-07 Thread Roy Britten
2009/4/8 Gauland, Michael :
>  The next into the modern age is to get my laptop networking
> wirelessly under Ubuntu.  I’ve installed ‘ndiswrapper’,  and the USB stick
> seems to be working. ‘wifi-radar’ reports finding the router, but I haven’t
> been able to get a connection up.

And what are you running?

If any of the 8.10 *buntus, ignore all the out-of-date advice on the
Interwebs regarding installing additional packages. It often (based on
very limited personal experience and some Googling) Just Works if you
leave it as a standard setup and enable the backports repository. (And
update and upgrade forthwith.) Installing ndiswrapper may or may not
adversely affect your results.

Roy.


Re: Getting started with 802.11

2009-04-07 Thread David Lowe
We probably need more information... which distro? what hardware?

If you are using ndswrapper then presumably you think you have an issue with
drivers. That can be a b%^*ch. Google the specifics of your hardware.

Ubuntu's network manager has issues with wireless. Try installing wicd - it
solved all sorts of problems for me.

- D

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Gauland, Michael <
michael.gaul...@airways.co.nz> wrote:

>  If we haven’t actually entered the modern age, we’re at least standing on
> its doorstep, huddled against the cold and rain, peering jealously at the
> wonders within.
>
>
>
> What I mean is, we’ve finally been able to move beyond dial-up to something
> approaching reasonable network speeds, thanks to the folks at No. 8
> Wireless. The next into the modern age is to get my laptop networking
> wirelessly under Ubuntu.  I’ve installed ‘ndiswrapper’,  and the USB stick
> seems to be working. ‘wifi-radar’ reports finding the router, but I haven’t
> been able to get a connection up.
>
>
>
> [In the interest of full disclosure, I will admit that I got it connected
> under Windows XP, but what good does that really do me?  It does show the
> hardware works, though]
>
>
>
> Google, bless whatever passes for its helpful little soul, provides all
> sorts of hits for various combinations of likely-sounding search terms.
> Rather than trawling through the twenty-three-million websites Google
> believes (with perhaps an overabundance of optimism) are Just What I’m
> Looking For, I thought I’d start ask the kind folks here.  So, any
> recommendations for an up-to-date, concise, ‘wi-fi’ how-to?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
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Getting started with 802.11

2009-04-07 Thread Gauland, Michael
If we haven't actually entered the modern age, we're at least standing
on its doorstep, huddled against the cold and rain, peering jealously at
the wonders within.

 

What I mean is, we've finally been able to move beyond dial-up to
something approaching reasonable network speeds, thanks to the folks at
No. 8 Wireless. The next into the modern age is to get my laptop
networking wirelessly under Ubuntu.  I've installed 'ndiswrapper',  and
the USB stick seems to be working. 'wifi-radar' reports finding the
router, but I haven't been able to get a connection up. 

 

[In the interest of full disclosure, I will admit that I got it
connected under Windows XP, but what good does that really do me?  It
does show the hardware works, though]

 

Google, bless whatever passes for its helpful little soul, provides all
sorts of hits for various combinations of likely-sounding search terms.
Rather than trawling through the twenty-three-million websites Google
believes (with perhaps an overabundance of optimism) are Just What I'm
Looking For, I thought I'd start ask the kind folks here.  So, any
recommendations for an up-to-date, concise, 'wi-fi' how-to?

 

Thanks,

Mike

 


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Re: my video card is possessed

2009-04-07 Thread Craig Falconer

Euan Clark wrote, On 07/04/09 17:27:
Quick confirmation of heat issues before spending money - point a 
deskfan or hairdryer (on cold) into affected areas in your open case and 


Why cold?  Hot would help make the problem reoccur... helps test the 
positive case as well  :)


I've generally left the slot beside the video card empty, and even leave 
the slot cover off to allow the air to move straight from front to back.



--
Craig Falconer



Re: generalized Net slowdown - or is it just me?

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Fisher
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 23:47:34 Wesley Parish wrote:
> I suspect, based on that minimum sample, that the problem is with the
> Telecom copper network.

3400kbps here at the moment - ADSL with Orcon

Rob


Re: generalized Net slowdown - or is it just me?

2009-04-07 Thread Wesley Parish
Quoting John Rye :

> On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:43:57 +1200
> Wesley Parish wrote:
> 
> > Hi, all
> > 
> > This afternoon I was at the St Albans Community Centre downloading
> some freely 
> > available music and other stuff, and I noticed the download speed was
> at 
> > about 56 KB per second, when it usually is faster, usually about 80
> KBps and 
> > sometimes well into the 100-plus KBps. I shrugged it off as the
> effects of 
> > being on a shared braodband connection.
> > 
> > I come home to my dialup connection, and discover that downloading my
> email 
> > from TelstraClear's Paradise.net.nz is at an all-time slow. At the
> rate it 
> > is downloading my email, the Universe will suffer a heat death long
> before it 
> > reaches a quarter of the way.
> > 
> > It appears that the St Albans broadband and my dialup may share the
> same 
> > affliction.
> > 
> > Am I the only one? Or is this a universal experience?
> 
> I'm on TelstraClear dsl and currently downloading a 4gb iso via ftp from
> a
> server in France.
> 
> Throughput is varying between 20kb/s and 86/kb/s on a theoretical half
> meg
> bandwidth, and it's been this way since about mid-afternoon
> 
> John
>  
So it's not just me.  The St Albans connection is with xnet, and my dialup 
connection - in Sumner - is with TelstraClear's Paradise.net.nz.

I suspect, based on that minimum sample, that the problem is with the Telecom 
copper network.

Wesley Parish


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Re: generalized Net slowdown - or is it just me?

2009-04-07 Thread John Rye
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:43:57 +1200
Wesley Parish wrote:

> Hi, all
> 
> This afternoon I was at the St Albans Community Centre downloading some 
> freely 
> available music and other stuff, and I noticed the download speed was at 
> about 56 KB per second, when it usually is faster, usually about 80 KBps and 
> sometimes well into the 100-plus KBps.  I shrugged it off as the effects of 
> being on a shared braodband connection.
> 
> I come home to my dialup connection, and discover that downloading my email 
> from TelstraClear's Paradise.net.nz is at an all-time slow.  At the rate it 
> is downloading my email, the Universe will suffer a heat death long before it 
> reaches a quarter of the way.
> 
> It appears that the St Albans broadband and my dialup may share the same 
> affliction.
> 
> Am I the only one?  Or is this a universal experience?

I'm on TelstraClear dsl and currently downloading a 4gb iso via ftp from a
server in France.

Throughput is varying between 20kb/s and 86/kb/s on a theoretical half meg
bandwidth, and it's been this way since about mid-afternoon

John


generalized Net slowdown - or is it just me?

2009-04-07 Thread Wesley Parish
Hi, all

This afternoon I was at the St Albans Community Centre downloading some freely 
available music and other stuff, and I noticed the download speed was at 
about 56 KB per second, when it usually is faster, usually about 80 KBps and 
sometimes well into the 100-plus KBps.  I shrugged it off as the effects of 
being on a shared braodband connection.

I come home to my dialup connection, and discover that downloading my email 
from TelstraClear's Paradise.net.nz is at an all-time slow.  At the rate it 
is downloading my email, the Universe will suffer a heat death long before it 
reaches a quarter of the way.

It appears that the St Albans broadband and my dialup may share the same 
affliction.

Am I the only one?  Or is this a universal experience?

Wesley Parish


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