Re: measurement software for electrical networks?

2009-09-07 Thread Wesley Parish
Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I have disproved a 
couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far at Telecom and 
Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat, and it's still 
falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of him; and I've 
just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like 
aforementioned drunk.

I'm starting to think I deserve broadband purely on the demerits of Telecom's 
performance, as compensation for Telecom's lack thereof.

At any rate, having to open ten tabs of slashdot to guarantee getting even 
one, is a bit much.

And if I have to use a 526k DSL thingee to solve the problems with a dial-up 
connection - at a measly 5k6 (if I'm lucky) - perhaps the problem isn't with 
me.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Wesley Parish wrote:
 I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could use to get hard
 copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet connection via
 Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines.

 They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute to a quarter of
 an hour, and I'd like to document that.  I may well decide to start a
 class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the general public, and
 having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important.

 Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - when Telecom's
 lines permit me to ask.  Telecom's mastered the art of punishing people for
 preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art of punishing them
 for using Telecom.

 Wesley Parish



-- 
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-
George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, 
tell them what an Ocarina really is: 
an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. 
-
Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
You ask, what is the most important thing?
Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
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RE: measurement software for electrical networks?

2009-09-07 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi Wesley,
Have you tried forcing your modem to a fixed speed like 33k so it is not
always trying to auonegiate a faster speed and forgetting to actually
transfer data?
I tend to do this for my rural friends who are still on dialup - not the
sort thing you would expect in the city
Maurice


 -Original Message-
 From: Wesley Parish [mailto:wes.par...@paradise.net.nz] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2009 8:48 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
 
 
 Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I 
 have disproved a 
 couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far 
 at Telecom and 
 Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat, 
 and it's still 
 falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of 
 him; and I've 
 just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like 
 aforementioned drunk.
 
 I'm starting to think I deserve broadband purely on the 
 demerits of Telecom's 
 performance, as compensation for Telecom's lack thereof.
 
 At any rate, having to open ten tabs of slashdot to guarantee 
 getting even 
 one, is a bit much.
 
 And if I have to use a 526k DSL thingee to solve the problems 
 with a dial-up 
 connection - at a measly 5k6 (if I'm lucky) - perhaps the 
 problem isn't with 
 me.
 
 On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Wesley Parish wrote:
  I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could 
 use to get hard
  copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet 
 connection via
  Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines.
 
  They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute 
 to a quarter of
  an hour, and I'd like to document that.  I may well decide 
 to start a
  class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the 
 general public, and
  having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important.
 
  Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - 
 when Telecom's
  lines permit me to ask.  Telecom's mastered the art of 
 punishing people for
  preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art 
 of punishing them
  for using Telecom.
 
  Wesley Parish
 
 
 
 -- 
 Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish
 -
 George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, 
 tell them what an Ocarina really is: 
 an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. 
 -
 Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
 You ask, what is the most important thing?
 Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
 I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.



Re: measurement software for electrical networks?

2009-09-07 Thread Christopher Sawtell
2009/9/7 Maurice Butler likema...@quicksilver.net.nz:
 Hi Wesley,
 Have you tried forcing your modem to a fixed speed like 33k so it is not
 always trying to auonegiate a faster speed and forgetting to actually
 transfer data?
 I tend to do this for my rural friends who are still on dialup - not the
 sort thing you would expect in the city
 Maurice


 -Original Message-
 From: Wesley Parish [mailto:wes.par...@paradise.net.nz]
 Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2009 8:48 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: measurement software for electrical networks?


 Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I
 have disproved a
 couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far
 at Telecom and
 Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat,
 and it's still
 falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of
 him; and I've
 just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like
 aforementioned drunk.

 I'm starting to think I deserve broadband purely on the
 demerits of Telecom's
 performance, as compensation for Telecom's lack thereof.

 At any rate, having to open ten tabs of slashdot to guarantee
 getting even
 one, is a bit much.

 And if I have to use a 526k DSL thingee to solve the problems
 with a dial-up
 connection - at a measly 5k6 (if I'm lucky) - perhaps the
 problem isn't with
 me.

 On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Wesley Parish wrote:
  I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could
 use to get hard
  copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet
 connection via
  Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines.
 
  They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute
 to a quarter of
  an hour, and I'd like to document that.  I may well decide
 to start a
  class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the
 general public, and
  having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important.
 
  Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this -
 when Telecom's
  lines permit me to ask.  Telecom's mastered the art of
 punishing people for
  preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art
 of punishing them
  for using Telecom.

To get 56k audio modems to go properly, particularly with Linux, is
still something to a black art.


Wes: Please can you tell us exactly what your set up is?
Please download the latest version of the scanModem utility, unpack
it, and run it.

http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz

IMHO This is the ultimate tool for getting dial-up modems to work properly.

If the report it generates does not immediately produce an obvious
answer to you what's happening you might care to post the output from
scanModem.

The other thing that would be well worth a try is to take your
computer and modem to a known-to-work telephone line to see what
happens on a known good line.

If it can be definitively proven that the line is at fault a
suggestion is to move away from Telecom and get your new ISP to boot
Telecom to get your line fixed.

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Hi all

2009-09-07 Thread Roger Searle

Hi sV,

The CLUG monthly meetings are currently in recess, you may like to check 
out the GNUz list and their meetings which I believe is monthly on the 
first Wednesday (and announcements generally made on this list too).


http://lists.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/gnuz

Regards
Roger




Solor Vox wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering if you guys had any local meetings?  I read in the 
archives that you had talked about it... but that was back in May and 
I didn't see any final decisions on it. 


Looking for something in the CHCH area.

sV


Poor dialup was Re: measurement software for electrical networks?

2009-09-07 Thread Craig Falconer

Hi Wesley,

 ...dialup woes...

I had an issue recently where a user could not get reliable DSL in the 
suburbs...   negotiating between 160kbit and 2 Mbit, and drop outs every 
few minutes.


Telecom didn't want to know because despite being a telecom phone 
number, it was a callplus DSL.


Call plus actually tried to do something, but actual results were not 
present.


Telstraclear cable is in the street, but they wouldn't take it up his 
driveway (rear section)


So the only options left were dialup, or wireless.
A free site survey from netspeed  http://www.f1.co.nz/ showed he could 
have 2Mbit.  Since the install he's had great speeds.



This is in the middle of Hoon Hay, so its not rural or anything.



--
Craig Falconer