RE: OT: Laptop power supply
If it is a standard two wire brik one of the same voltage and at least the same amps will be fine. If the wire between the brick and the laptop is the only bit damage a person handy with a soldering iron would be able to sort it for you. After market relacements on trademe are about $90 Maurice -Original Message- From: Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) [mailto:peter.glassenb...@canterbury.ac.nz] Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 3:46 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: OT: Laptop power supply On 28/05/10 14:31, Roy Britten wrote: The power supply for SWMBO's Compaq Presario laptop has a failure in the low-voltage cord (the one that runs from the brick to the laptop). Molten Media Computer Broker apparently can't supply a replacement. If anyone on list could offer a replacement (for purchase or loan) SWMBO would be overjoyed. Replies best off-list, methinks. You may now return to your on-topic lives. Not sure if we may have one or not... but a reply to on-list as we had an experience that almost went sour... Laptop power unit died. Borrowed another power unit from same brand with same voltage specs..(not same model) I think it worked for the recharge... but when it was returned it failed to charge the original owners laptop. Kept giving errors. It came right after a day. The Hardware experts here said that mixing power blocks between modern laptops is dangerous(for your laptop) in that they have extra circuitry to help the charge the battery. They vary between brands and even within a brand. You should get a replacement for the same MODEL .. not just the same BRAND. Pete (Just passing on warning as was described to me... excuse E OE) -- --- Peter Glassenbury Computer Science department p...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nzUniversity of Canterbury +64 3 3642987 ext 7762New Zealand
big mail problem
Hi I've got a big mail problem - as in moby of mobies unto the unttermost moby - yesterday I downloaded my mail as per usual, and as required by my agreement with TelstraClear. There was one email - no. 159 - that was clearly over 5MB, that took most of an hour to download. When I came to look for it, intending of course to send its author a thick ear, I couldn't find it anywhere in kmail. You'd think that an over-5MB file would be easy to find. Except it has disappeared. Firstly, is there a handy grep script that can search through MBOXes? Secondly, this smells like an attack vector. Download an invisible file through a visible email that deletes itself Does kmail have the kind of vulnerability that would allow the installation of a privilege-excalating binary? Thirdly, I was going directly in downloading my email, because of the major problems I have had with Telecom's lines being unreliable, thus making it difficult to sanitise my email by looking through the webmail interface. I regard Telecom's gratuitous line unreliability as the teleco equivalent of a gratuitous buffer overflow, and naturally, would like to see Telecom pay the consequences. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, tell them what an Ocarina really is: an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
Re: big mail problem
On 28 May 2010 20:27, Wesley Parish wes.par...@paradise.net.nz wrote: Hi I've got a big mail problem - as in moby of mobies unto the unttermost moby - yesterday I downloaded my mail as per usual, and as required by my agreement with TelstraClear. There was one email - no. 159 - that was clearly over 5MB, that took most of an hour to download. When I came to look for it, intending of course to send its author a thick ear, I couldn't find it anywhere in kmail. You'd think that an over-5MB file would be easy to find. Except it has disappeared Is it still on the mail server? Firstly, is there a handy grep script that can search through MBOXes? You could search for a file larger than 5 megs in your email archive using the find command. find KMail's data directory -type f -a -size +5M -ls I'm sorry I have forgotten where the email is stored. I suspect somewhere in the ~/.kde tree. Secondly, this smells like an attack vector. Download an invisible file through a visible email that deletes itself Does kmail have the kind of vulnerability that would allow the installation of a privilege-excalating binary? Goodness only knows, but I suspect not. Kmail is a pretty well put together program. Thirdly, I was going directly in downloading my email, because of the major problems I have had with Telecom's lines being unreliable, thus making it difficult to sanitise my email by looking through the webmail interface. I regard Telecom's gratuitous line unreliability as the teleco equivalent of a gratuitous buffer overflow, and naturally, would like to see Telecom pay the consequences. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks np -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: big mail problem
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Wesley Parish wes.par...@paradise.net.nz wrote: Any help would be greatly appreciated. You might be more inclined to get help if you restricted your .sig to 3 lines or so, In the meantime I suggest you look at your mail server's logs and see if you can find out what happened.
Re: big mail problem
On Fri 28 May 2010 20:27:08 NZST +1200, Wesley Parish wrote: agreement with TelstraClear. There was one email - no. 159 - that was clearly over 5MB, that took most of an hour to download. When I came to look for it, intending of course to send its author a thick ear, I couldn't find it anywhere in kmail. Never mind. kmail is not the most reliable when it comes to indexing mail, but then I use it with mbox, which it is clearly not supporting well, e.g. it's unable to work our reliably when an mbox file has changed and therefore needs to be re-indexed, let alone locking the file when it modifies it. You failed to say what your mailstore is. Local disk? IMAP? By default, kmail stores everything under ~/.kde (it's easy to find), and like every other semi-modern MUA, i.e. one with a GUI, treats your mail as its private property to be guarded jealously from your tinkering. Firstly, is there a handy grep script that can search through MBOXes? Yes. At the shell prompt, type g r e p, followed by something smart, like a substring of the subject line. There's a faster way for you: use grepmail. There's an even faster way for you: use mutt -f. It's a workhorse as reliable as any you can get, and it never EVER fails. By comparison, you can kick all the good-looking stuff half way to inter-galactic space. Choose between easy to use and works well. Sad, but true. Secondly, this smells like an attack vector. Download an invisible file through a visible email that deletes itself Does kmail have the kind of vulnerability that would allow the installation of a privilege-excalating binary? Nobody knows, but historically it hasn't featured on the walls of shame, or not much that I remember anyway. Thirdly, I was going directly in downloading my email, because of the major problems I have had with Telecom's lines being unreliable, thus making it difficult to sanitise my email by looking through the webmail interface. [Telecom bla bla deleted] It's called fetchmail. Coupled with procmail and someone with a computer-clue it pretty rocks. Works better with a permanent connection though. I have a script which wraps fetchmail, and runs when *I* say it (not fetchmail wants to), and which carefully logs fetchmail's activity. Happy to give out copies BUT it's not in releasable state, i.e. needs local adaptation work (mainly editing constants). Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Kmail not loading
I have an on going issue with kmail. it's got to the point of divorce if I don't get it sorted :( When did this first occur sometime ago (yes I'm a slack bugger) I had an updates done then bang! Since then I've had other updates and upgrade to Kubuntu 10.04. This week with violence looming and marital unrest I thought if i do a fresh install and updates this'll fix the problems - NOPE it didn't. what is happening is this. OS starts and I've signed in load kmail once loaded it tries to connect to the server. at some point it crashes! sig 6 pid whatever it was subsequent re starts either from the crash handler or from the desktop it will load and crash. I had a similar problem once before and by deleting the indexes I was able to recover from the crash so I tried that to no avail. Now I've googled for help I've posted a bug report (this being the 2nd one - 1st one got closed as being a duplicate, 2nd issue is open and unconfirmed) nothing. I've been happy to connect to webmail but she who threatens doesn't! I've recently installed thunderbird so am getting emails in and she who threatens is a wee bit placated but now wants her old emails (women!!!) address contacts (every unreasonable of her I mean it's not bothering me grin). If anyone is able to suggest something i do as I was quite happy with kmail and my wife has been brought up on kmail (from me) and I suppose I'm lucky as she has never used windows at all else that would be thrown at me too. Does this sound like it's something to try? copy all emails to another location delete all messages etc from the original directorys (ie have it clean) prove that kmail is stable then import messages back in? This on the basis that something that i did unwittingly when the problem first occurred hasn't been fixed? What was that action I hear you ask? - Deleting some email messages from a folder or from the trash. any help would be gratefully appreciated
Re: Kmail not loading
On Sat 29 May 2010 11:06:47 NZST +1200, dave wrote: OS starts and I've signed in load kmail once loaded it tries to connect to the server. at some point it crashes! sig 6 pid whatever it was Signal 6 is abort, something tells kmail to abort. Could also be a network issue. And is the crash after/while contacting the mail server, or before? The difference is quite important. kmail stores files in these places (warning KDE 3, KDE 4 may be different): ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ ~/.kde/share/config/kmail.eventsrc ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc ~/.kde/share/config/kmailsnippetrc Plus the default mail store is somewhere, but I can't tell you where because I always put it where I want it. You could rename all of those (search for anything containing kmail in its name, under ~/.kde/, or whereever your distro puts the user kde files). MAKE DAMN SURE kmail is not running at the time! Then set up the mail account again in kmail. TO revert, make sure kmail is not running, delete the new stuff and rename the old one back. Your contacts etc will be in one of those files. Your old email will be someplace too, you can easily feed that into thunderbird, but you'll need to convert it to mbox format first if it isn't (the default for kmail is not mbox). You can concatenate all the email files into one file, EXCEPT the leading From line (that's not the From: line!) is probably missing. The best way to reconstruct that is to run every mail file through formail -b before concatenating them into a single mbox file. Note this may scramble your received times, try formail -b -a Date: to fix that. And -a Date: may scramble your From dates, try running the output of that through formail -b again, before concatenation. Use mutt -f to check your mbox file. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: Kmail not loading
Thanks for the reply. Can advise that with those threats of discord in my domestic life I've been able to avert them (well for the moment) I thought I'd just do it got nothing to loose and go and back up the /.kde/share/kmail/mail data to another location. Started kmail and it been up and running for at least 20 minutes. connected to the server got all messages stored and another lot (which had you're reply to my post). I will look into those locations to see if I can find out why the thing crashed and post this into my bug report as I think kmail broke something within the 9.10 kmail upgrade session _or_ I broke something when I deleted an email but why I wouldn't know. regarding when it crashed before or after connection (I would like to venture to say before connection) to the server. all I can say is kmail would load, Main screen would appear (if it was the 1st time) I have it set to attempt to connect upon startup then it would crash. Once (not remember if it was before upgrade to lucid or not) but I actually got 3 emails down loaded from the server before it died but that was only once. cheers, Dave. On Sat, 29 May 2010 11:40:42 you wrote: On Sat 29 May 2010 11:06:47 NZST +1200, dave wrote: OS starts and I've signed in load kmail once loaded it tries to connect to the server. at some point it crashes! sig 6 pid whatever it was Signal 6 is abort, something tells kmail to abort. Could also be a network issue. And is the crash after/while contacting the mail server, or before? The difference is quite important. kmail stores files in these places (warning KDE 3, KDE 4 may be different): ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ ~/.kde/share/config/kmail.eventsrc ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc ~/.kde/share/config/kmailsnippetrc Plus the default mail store is somewhere, but I can't tell you where because I always put it where I want it. You could rename all of those (search for anything containing kmail in its name, under ~/.kde/, or whereever your distro puts the user kde files). MAKE DAMN SURE kmail is not running at the time! Then set up the mail account again in kmail. TO revert, make sure kmail is not running, delete the new stuff and rename the old one back. Your contacts etc will be in one of those files. Your old email will be someplace too, you can easily feed that into thunderbird, but you'll need to convert it to mbox format first if it isn't (the default for kmail is not mbox). You can concatenate all the email files into one file, EXCEPT the leading From line (that's not the From: line!) is probably missing. The best way to reconstruct that is to run every mail file through formail -b before concatenating them into a single mbox file. Note this may scramble your received times, try formail -b -a Date: to fix that. And -a Date: may scramble your From dates, try running the output of that through formail -b again, before concatenation. Use mutt -f to check your mbox file. Volker
Re: Kmail not loading
On Saturday 29 May 2010, you wrote: On Sat 29 May 2010 11:06:47 NZST +1200, dave wrote: Series of posts reguarding where email is stored. I run kmail as my mail application. I choose whatever the default was for mail storage. My maildir is ~/.Mail Cheers Ross Drummond
Is there such a distro?
Are there any desktop centered distros whose primary aim is to have as few surprises as possible for people who are already accustomed to Linux? So far all of the distros I have seen (old Knoppix, Red Hat, Linspire, Ubuntu, Fedora, Kubuntu, Slackware, Mandriva, Open Suse, Gentoo, Debian and a few others that I have tried for an afternoon or so) have had some other primary goal. I just want a very generic distro. P.S: If anyone with the resources wants to start up such a distro I'm willing to help.
Re: Is there such a distro?
On 29 May 2010 13:02, Ryan McCoskrie ryan.mccosk...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any desktop centered distros whose primary aim is to have as few surprises as possible for people who are already accustomed to Linux? So far all of the distros I have seen (old Knoppix, Red Hat, Linspire, Ubuntu, Fedora, Kubuntu, Slackware, Mandriva, Open Suse, Gentoo, Debian and a few others that I have tried for an afternoon or so) have had some other primary goal. I just want a very generic distro. I have found Sabayon pretty good. The CoreCD version would probably do what you want pretty well. http://forum.sabayon.org/viewtopic.php?f=60t=20421 There is also a distro called 'Caclculate-Linux' which is similar, and quite possibly somewhat better. http://www.calculate-linux.org/en I have played with the Live CD and was pretty impressed. I have not installed it because - after a bunch of upgrades - Sabayon became rough enough for my simple needs. P.S: If anyone with the resources wants to start up such a distro I'm willing to help. Sorry no, there are umpteen thousand Linux distros available already, and I am now strictly in 'user mode' as far as computing is concerned. i.e. I don't need or want the stress. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: Is there such a distro?
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:02 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: I just want a very generic distro. Whay do you mean? I'd've called most of those you mentioned 'generic', as opposed to - say - myth, voyage, etc. Are you after minimal, like a vanilla debian net install? Cheers, Steve -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Is there such a distro?
On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:44:11 you wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:02 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: I just want a very generic distro. Whay do you mean? I'd've called most of those you mentioned 'generic', as opposed to - say - myth, voyage, etc. A distro aiming at as few surprises as possible. Most of what I have mentioned are relatively generic but all have some surprises. Fedora has become particularly annoying to upgrade and Ubuntu tries to prevent serious tinkering etc, etc. Are you after minimal, like a vanilla debian net install? No, full desktop from a disk.
Re: Is there such a distro?
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:02 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: Are there any desktop centered distros whose primary aim is to have as few surprises as possible for people who are already accustomed to Linux? So far all of the distros I have seen (old Knoppix, Red Hat, Linspire, Ubuntu, Fedora, Kubuntu, Slackware, Mandriva, Open Suse, Gentoo, Debian and a few others that I have tried for an afternoon or so) have had some other primary goal. I just want a very generic distro. P.S: If anyone with the resources wants to start up such a distro I'm willing to help. Debian stable, or PC linux os, or run a google for roll your own Linux. Sorry can not remember the url Cheeers the kiwi
Re: Is there such a distro?
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:38 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:44:11 you wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:02 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: I just want a very generic distro. Whay do you mean? I'd've called most of those you mentioned 'generic', as opposed to - say - myth, voyage, etc. A distro aiming at as few surprises as possible. Most of what I have mentioned are relatively generic but all have some surprises. Fedora has become particularly annoying to upgrade and Ubuntu tries to prevent serious tinkering etc, etc. Amen cheers Chris T
Re: Kmail not loading
Yes I do too when i first started using it it was defaults all the way just add smtp pop server settings. But I've had a couple of crashes ( one being a case of deleting indexes and recreating them, two another case of index corruption and most recently this crashing). I've had kmail up and running (closing it myself at least twice) since posting my call for help. fingers crossed that she's all good now. dave. On Sat, 29 May 2010 12:17:24 you wrote: On Saturday 29 May 2010, you wrote: On Sat 29 May 2010 11:06:47 NZST +1200, dave wrote: Series of posts reguarding where email is stored. I run kmail as my mail application. I choose whatever the default was for mail storage. My maildir is ~/.Mail Cheers Ross Drummond
Re: Is there such a distro?
On 29 May 2010 15:03 chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:38 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:44:11 you wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:02 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: I just want a very generic distro. Whay do you mean? I'd've called most of those you mentioned 'generic', as opposed to - say - myth, voyage, etc. A distro aiming at as few surprises as possible. Most of what I have mentioned are relatively generic but all have some surprises. Fedora has become particularly annoying to upgrade and Ubuntu tries to prevent serious tinkering etc, etc. Amen cheers Chris T In that case I reckon you need one of the DIY distros. e.g. Linux from Scratch. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ Source Mage. http://sourcemage.org/ Gentoo http://www.gentoo.org/ is also a possibility, but you mention that as being undesirable. I'm sure some of us would be prepared to set up our machines as hosts in a compiler farm for you. Volunteers CLUGgers? -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: Is there such a distro?
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 May 2010 15:03 chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:38 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:44:11 you wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:02 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: I just want a very generic distro. Whay do you mean? I'd've called most of those you mentioned 'generic', as opposed to - say - myth, voyage, etc. A distro aiming at as few surprises as possible. Most of what I have mentioned are relatively generic but all have some surprises. Fedora has become particularly annoying to upgrade and Ubuntu tries to prevent serious tinkering etc, etc. Amen cheers Chris T In that case I reckon you need one of the DIY distros. e.g. Linux from Scratch. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ Source Mage. http://sourcemage.org/ Gentoo http://www.gentoo.org/ is also a possibility, but you mention that as being undesirable. I'm sure some of us would be prepared to set up our machines as hosts in a compiler farm for you. Volunteers CLUGgers? Been there done that! Anyway you already mentioned Sabayon which is gentoo anyway. I suggest Arch Linux, has a rolling release and good packaging system, good docos, good community. Many people swear by it. You'll get your hands dirty but not as much as for LFS or gentoo.
Re: Kmail not loading
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 3:24 PM, dave dave.lil...@clear.net.nz wrote: Yes I do too when i first started using it it was defaults all the way just add smtp pop server settings. But I've had a couple of crashes ( one being a case of deleting indexes and recreating them, two another case of index corruption and most recently this crashing). I've had kmail up and running (closing it myself at least twice) since posting my call for help. fingers crossed that she's all good now. All this reminds me of why storing all your mail in a client specific format on your desktop is a bad idea. Get an old machine, install postfix, fetchmail or getmail, procmail and an imap server like dovecote. You can then use any client you like and your mail will always be available on the server. And PLEASE don't set your reply-to when posting to the list!
Re: Is there such a distro?
On 29 May 2010 16:41, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 May 2010 15:03 chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:38 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:44:11 you wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:02 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: I just want a very generic distro. Whay do you mean? I'd've called most of those you mentioned 'generic', as opposed to - say - myth, voyage, etc. A distro aiming at as few surprises as possible. Most of what I have mentioned are relatively generic but all have some surprises. Fedora has become particularly annoying to upgrade and Ubuntu tries to prevent serious tinkering etc, etc. Amen cheers Chris T In that case I reckon you need one of the DIY distros. e.g. Linux from Scratch. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ Source Mage. http://sourcemage.org/ Gentoo http://www.gentoo.org/ is also a possibility, but you mention that as being undesirable. I'm sure some of us would be prepared to set up our machines as hosts in a compiler farm for you. Volunteers CLUGgers? Been there done that! Anyway you already mentioned Sabayon which is gentoo anyway. Not entirely. There is another very necessary layer of QA and it shows. It's sensibly pre-compiled with appropriately sensible use flags. They have obviously expended a considerable amount of energy setting up the packages to both look nice and run properly. KDE-4.4.3 is a dream. Last but not least it has a completely new and different package management system which actually seems to work really well. I suggest Arch Linux, has a rolling release and good packaging system, good docos, good community. Many people swear by it. You'll get your hands dirty but not as much as for LFS or gentoo. Do you use Arch yourself? And if so, for how long? -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: Is there such a distro?
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 May 2010 16:41, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 May 2010 15:03 chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 14:38 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010 13:44:11 you wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:02 +1200, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: I just want a very generic distro. Whay do you mean? I'd've called most of those you mentioned 'generic', as opposed to - say - myth, voyage, etc. A distro aiming at as few surprises as possible. Most of what I have mentioned are relatively generic but all have some surprises. Fedora has become particularly annoying to upgrade and Ubuntu tries to prevent serious tinkering etc, etc. Amen cheers Chris T In that case I reckon you need one of the DIY distros. e.g. Linux from Scratch. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ Source Mage. http://sourcemage.org/ Gentoo http://www.gentoo.org/ is also a possibility, but you mention that as being undesirable. I'm sure some of us would be prepared to set up our machines as hosts in a compiler farm for you. Volunteers CLUGgers? Been there done that! Anyway you already mentioned Sabayon which is gentoo anyway. Not entirely. There is another very necessary layer of QA and it shows. It's sensibly pre-compiled with appropriately sensible use flags. They have obviously expended a considerable amount of energy setting up the packages to both look nice and run properly. KDE-4.4.3 is a dream. Last but not least it has a completely new and different package management system which actually seems to work really well. I suggest Arch Linux, has a rolling release and good packaging system, good docos, good community. Many people swear by it. You'll get your hands dirty but not as much as for LFS or gentoo. Do you use Arch yourself? And if so, for how long? Only in the context of LinHES, but I have been following the forums and so forth and thinking about giving it a go on my laptop.
Re: Kmail not loading
On 29 May 2010 16:49, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 3:24 PM, dave dave.lil...@clear.net.nz wrote: Yes I do too when i first started using it it was defaults all the way just add smtp pop server settings. But I've had a couple of crashes ( one being a case of deleting indexes and recreating them, two another case of index corruption and most recently this crashing). I've had kmail up and running (closing it myself at least twice) since posting my call for help. fingers crossed that she's all good now. All this reminds me of why storing all your mail in a client specific format on your desktop is a bad idea. Get an old machine, install postfix, fetchmail or getmail, procmail and an imap server like dovecote. You can then use any client you like and your mail will always be available on the server. Assuming that you do not require extreme privacy because the server is in the USofA, i.e CIAistan, I can recommend that you get a Googlemail account and set it up to be your IMAP server so you can use more or less whatever client program you like. Google recommends Thunderbird-3.0. For the whole nineteen yards go to http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?hl=entopic=12913 This saves you all the hassle of administering your own server and you also save on the electricity bill by not running a server locally. And PLEASE don't set your reply-to when posting to the list! Too TRUE!! -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: Kmail not loading
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 16:49 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: And PLEASE don't set your reply-to when posting to the list! Properly configured list manager should handle that! Steve -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
