Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Hellyar
Um,

Sorry if I offended you (or anyone else) with my response, but I think
it's a fair representation of the reality for most local council
managed libraries in NZ.

I didn't say I didn't see the benefit, I said that I don't think you'd
get the libraries to take it up...

There is a lot of work going into 'digital' and online initiatives for
NZ libraries, some of which has a distinct FOSS flavour.  The National
library is hoisting a FOSS based Peoples network for free public
Internet access in all libraries, and there are various 'strategy'
documents that have come out of central government and TePuna (National
Library) in the last couple of years.

But, the reality for smaller council owned libraries is that they have
difficulty with funding and staffing, and would be quite pressed to
provide anything but floor space to a Linux Distro service.

Cheers, Me.



On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 08:22 +1200, goldedge wrote:
 Hi Chris I don't want to debate this, if others can not see the 
 advantages from a Linux Educational FOSS promotional point of view
 that is fine.
 
 Opinion not related to the quoted text above.
 It's no wonder that this country is in the process of decline.
 
 I will now unsubscribe and not be missed at all.





Re: (slightly ot) Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, August 22, 2007 10:08 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 On 8/22/07, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where would you set up such a service?
 Wesley and The St. Albans  Neighbourhood Network have agreed to make
 ~40GB of disk space available to us to hold .iso images.

 Before we download any .iso images specially, it would be a saving if
 list members could please bring various Linux/unix CDs to the next
 meeting for copying.

 Thanks.

Thats excellent, now there are a few things we need to plan:

What is the promotional budget? How will Joe Cool Public know about it?

Who will man it when Joe Cool walks off the street and wants a copy of a
distro?

Who will fund the purchase of a stock of (good quality) blank CD's  DVD's?

Who will pay for the inevitable coasters and the worn out CD writer?

Is there a DVD writer (inevitably more and more distros are on DVD).

Who is paying for the bandwidth?

What happens when the 40G runs out (thats about 8 DVD's, dunno how many
distros)

-- 
Nick Rout



Re: (slightly ot) Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-22 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On 8/22/07, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, August 22, 2007 10:08 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
  On 8/22/07, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Where would you set up such a service?
  Wesley and The St. Albans  Neighbourhood Network have agreed to make
  ~40GB of disk space available to us to hold .iso images.
 
  Before we download any .iso images specially, it would be a saving if
  list members could please bring various Linux/unix CDs to the next
  meeting for copying.
 
  Thanks.

 Thats excellent, now there are a few things we need to plan:

 What is the promotional budget?
Goodness knows, You, David, and I, will decide because we control the money box.

 How will Joe Cool Public know about it?

Members will talk  I'm sure that the letterbox 'tract' is by the best
value for money in advertising. Labels on the copies of the CDs/DVDs
will mention where this particular copy came from. 'Tracts' on the
counter to the right of the door of the hall and in the  public
libraries. We have been offered a space for several hundred words in
the news letter the Resource Centre publishes. I have written 255.
Thus there will be space for a sentence about discs.

Christoph has also said we can have a small space for a bald meeting
announcement each month.

 Who will man it when Joe Cool walks off the street and wants a copy of a
 distro?
It's not practical to have more than the top 4 or 5 distros at the
most. It's surely possible to have one of each in the cupboard in the
Network Neighbourhood room. ok there'll be some wastage but that's ok.
There is a staff somebody at the St. Albans venue every day during
volunteer hours.

 Who will fund the purchase of a stock of (good quality) blank CD's  DVD's?
CLUG. CDs are not terribly expensive these days. The premium for
re-writables might be worth it. Folks can then re-load the disc when
the next version of their distro comes out.

 Who will pay for the inevitable coasters and the worn out CD writer?
ditto.

 Is there a DVD writer (inevitably more and more distros are on DVD).
No. To be bought later if this exercise takes off.
If it doesn't then we don't.

 Who is paying for the bandwidth?
I'm sure that members will be able to se the point of sharing their downloads.

 What happens when the 40G runs out (thats about 8 DVD's, dunno how many
 distros)

We buy, or get given, another one.

My suggestion is that we hold single copies of:-
Knoppix DVD and CD.
Ubuntu, Kubuntu  Mepis.
Fedora and Mandriva.

Plus any others you might care to mention.
I have the 3 CDs of FreeBSD.
PC-BSD might also be a possibility. You've got a disc haven't you?

Gentoo is _not_ because it's too much hassle for Joe Six-Pack to get installed.

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-22 Thread Philip Charles
On Thursday 23 August 2007 06:58, Vik Olliver wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 23:03 +1200, Don Gould wrote:
  Perhaps that's why it's not propergating very fast in NZ on the
  desktop.

 I think that's more to do with the fact that we have a small market;
 retailers are reluctant to stock many options and most people use the
 OS that their desktop came pre-loaded with.

Profit margins would be more inportant.  Say $50+ for Vista and $3 for 
Linux.

Phil.
-- 
  Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand
   +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
  I sell GNU/Linux  GNU/Hurd CDs  DVDs.   See http://www.copyleft.co.nz


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Ben Ford

 Fair comment.  Assuming there's a terminal free, and the place isn't
 chocka
 with Asians.

 Or do all the ecafes stock Linux CDs too?  (Sorry, I don't know... I'm
 rarely a patron of such establishments.)


Yet you know that they are chocka with Asians...?

-- 
Regards,
Ben Ford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+628111880346


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On 8/21/07, alanw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Chris.

   So I've got the yellow pages open, and am ringing around.
  You havn't got it open at the right page. Try  818 in the current book.

 So, you're saying... try an internet cafe?  For downloading?
Yes and Yes.

 Fair comment.  Assuming there's a terminal free, and the place isn't chocka 
 with Asians.
What's wrong with the Asians? They are harmless - especially when
compared to the local ferals, and do have a right to natter to their
rellies back home on IM or VoIP.

 Or do all the ecafes stock Linux CDs too?
The one in the Arts Center used to, but he got done over by a gang of
the aforementioned ferals, and went out of business.

Why don't you just tell us what you want. I'm sure somebody willl
either have an image on his/her disc or be prepared to get one for
you.

If it's on Optus in Sydney you could have had it here in Christchurch
less than an hour after your original posting.

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Tue 21 Aug 2007 12:07:31 NZST +1200, alanw wrote:

 I'm trying to compile a list of places in Christchurch where people can get
 a CD of (any) Linux distribution.

What sort of place? There isn't a lot of business sense in keeping stock
of distributions because there are too many, they go out of date too
fast, and the profit for the shop would be negligible because anyone who
can downloads them. Therefore I doubt any business can serve you within
an hour.

Your best bet would be to post on this list, virtually every reader will
be happy to burn you a copy of what they've got.

Volker

-- 
Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header
http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Vik Olliver
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 14:21 +1200, alanw wrote:
 If I wanted a copy of a Linux distribution, say Mepis, for example,
 where
 could I get it, within the hour?

Do you hold any stock?

Do you want to?

Vik :v)



Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Graeme Kiyoto-Ward

Hi

You can get Linux from any reasonable bookshop of reasonable sized 
supermarket for $10.00. You simply don't get to choice of distribution.  
Each month APC magazine features a Linux distro on the cover DVD. If you 
need to get started in a hurry, don't have an internet connection and 
aren't fussy its a good place to start.


The library is another place to look if you don't want to spend any 
money and don't mind an older distro. Choices are linux magazines or 
look in the OS section of the computer books.


All within Christchurch.

Regards

Graeme Kiyoto-Ward

alanw wrote:

Thanks Chris, but the point of the exercise is... ah, what would you call
it?... get it now?

If I wanted a copy of a Linux distribution, say Mepis, for example, where
could I get it, within the hour?

I can pick up a micro$oft CD from a multitude of places, and have it in my
hot little hand, within the hour, because it's everywhere practically.  Yet,
I can't do that with Linux.  Simply because I don't know where to go.

Picture someone in Chch on holiday, say, and they don't know anyone here
yet.  They hear of a new distro they want to try out on their laptop maybe.
But they don't have broadband (or it's not working, whatever)... where can
they get the CD?

Is there a list of places I could point them to?  No. I don't even know
myself where I'd go.

So I've got the yellow pages open, and am ringing around.  So far...

Harvey Norman is out, no Linux at all.  Future plans - none.

The Computer Broker used to have Ubuntu for $5 but no longer stock it.
Future plans - none.

Dick Smith?  Old and new versions of Ubuntu - $7 and $9.  Get it now?
















  


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread alanw
Sorry, that should have been... assuming the there's a terminal free. That's 
the main point.  The rest is redundant... and might come across as vaguely 
white supremacist or something... not my intention. Sorry.

Alan Wilkie


  From: Ben Ford To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 
2007 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points



Fair comment.  Assuming there's a terminal free, and the place isn't chocka 
with Asians.

Or do all the ecafes stock Linux CDs too?  (Sorry, I don't know... I'm
rarely a patron of such establishments.)


  Yet you know that they are chocka with Asians...? 

  -- 
  Regards,
  Ben Ford
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  +628111880346 


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread yuri
On 21/08/07, alanw wrote:
 Thanks Chris.

   So I've got the yellow pages open, and am ringing around.
  You havn't got it open at the right page. Try  818 in the current book.

 So, you're saying... try an internet cafe?  For downloading?

 Fair comment.  Assuming there's a terminal free, and the place isn't chocka
 with Asians.

What difference does it make if the folks with whom the caf is chocka
happen to be Asian?
If there are 50 computers and 49 Asians, you can still download what
you want, unless you're allergic to people of oriental ethnicity.

Yuri


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread alanw
Vik,

No and no. Mepis is just an example. The only one that's worked for me so
far.

Alan

- Original Message -
From: Vik Olliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points


 On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 14:21 +1200, alanw wrote:
  If I wanted a copy of a Linux distribution, say Mepis, for example,
  where
  could I get it, within the hour?

 Do you hold any stock?

 Do you want to?

 Vik :v)



Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Robert Fisher
In the time since this thread started you could have sent a request to this 
list and picked up one of any number of the latest distros.

To coin a phrase - read my lips - as it has already been mentioned by 
several others.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Rob


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread alanw
Rob,

I guess it's a reasonable assumption that I might be interested in a
distro...

But that's not what I said.  Would the hypothetical visitor to Chch
automatically know about this list... and sending a request for whatever...
or who's lips to read?

I assume not.

If I need a distro, I will surely ask here... and, faith be, I will
receive...   ;-)



- Original Message -
From: Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points


 In the time since this thread started you could have sent a request to
this
 list and picked up one of any number of the latest distros.

 To coin a phrase - read my lips - as it has already been mentioned by
 several others.

 Ask and ye shall receive.

 Rob



Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread alanw
Volker and Chris,

 Your best bet would be to post on this list, virtually every reader will
be happy to burn you a copy of what they've got.

Well, that's surely a quick solution for me, because I'm on this list... but
it begs the question for the 'hypothetical' visitor to Chch, who may not
know about this list.






Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread yuri
On 21/08/07, alanw wrote:
 I'm trying to compile a list of places in Christchurch where people can get
 a CD of (any) Linux distribution.

The magazine stand of any supermarket or bookstore.
Of the 3 or 4 Australian computer magazines available, in any given
month at least one of them will have Linux on their cover DVD.
Often their is an article inside about this month's distro.
Usually about $10. Sometimes the cover disks are at the counter.

Yuri


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On 8/21/07, alanw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob,

 I guess it's a reasonable assumption that I might be interested in a
 distro...

 But that's not what I said.  Would the hypothetical visitor to Chch
 automatically know about this list... and sending a request for whatever...
 or who's lips to read?

 I assume not.
Eh?!?
Google knows everything which is public knowledge, and everybody in
this activity domain who has a brain knows that as a fact.

A search on linux christchurch nz yields the Public Library as the
top non sponsored link, and our home page is the top link therein. We
are well known.
At slack times the Library will allow downloads too. There is a very
modest charge  they sell the writable CD for a single dollar.


 If I need a distro, I will surely ask here... and, faith be, I will
 receive...   ;-)



 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points


  In the time since this thread started you could have sent a request to
 this
  list and picked up one of any number of the latest distros.
 
  To coin a phrase - read my lips - as it has already been mentioned by
  several others.
 
  Ask and ye shall receive.
 
  Rob




-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread goldedge
Hi would it make sense for a Lug to set up public servers in the likes 
of the library's equipped with a cd/dvd burner for library staff to

burn a quick copy or two for a nominal fee?

That is we supply the hardware and perhaps a method of point'n'klik tm
burning? ( web page interface or similar).

People wanting a cd could bring in their own blanks or the library
could sell them.

The server could be configured to auto update / download the latest 
distro's.


Regards
Michael





Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Nick Rout

Graeme Kiyoto-Ward wrote:

Hi

You can get Linux from any reasonable bookshop of reasonable sized 
supermarket for $10.00. You simply don't get to choice of 
distribution.  Each month APC magazine features a Linux distro on the 
cover DVD. If you need to get started in a hurry, don't have an 
internet connection and aren't fussy its a good place to start.


Thats a very good point. The mag covers are a great source (but not 
always guaranteed to be identical to what you download, ie sometimes a 
little cut down).




Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Nick Rout

goldedge wrote:
Hi would it make sense for a Lug to set up public servers in the likes 
of the library's equipped with a cd/dvd burner for library staff to

burn a quick copy or two for a nominal fee?

That is we supply the hardware and perhaps a method of point'n'klik tm
burning? ( web page interface or similar).

People wanting a cd could bring in their own blanks or the library
could sell them.

The server could be configured to auto update / download the latest 
distro's.


Regards
Michael



What makes you think the city council/library want to provide this 
service, would allow a computer set up by an unknown purpose, have the 
bandwidth to replicate the multitude of distros, and the staff to 
maintain it?


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Eliot Blennerhassett
Graeme Kiyoto-Ward wrote:

 The library is another place to look if you don't want to spend any
 money and don't mind an older distro. Choices are linux magazines or
 look in the OS section of the computer books.

But who has all the recent copies of LXF (Linux Format Mag)? Is it
members of this list?

I.e. latest issue is 96, one copy on latest issues shelf at central,
other 2 copies on loan.

95,94,93, 90, 89, 88, 87  all  copies on loan
92,91  one copy on shelf at South (ooh better get down there...)

--
Eliot


(slightly ot) Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:14:51 +1200
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 goldedge wrote:
  Hi would it make sense for a Lug to set up public servers in the likes 
  of the library's equipped with a cd/dvd burner for library staff to
  burn a quick copy or two for a nominal fee?
 
  That is we supply the hardware and perhaps a method of point'n'klik tm
  burning? ( web page interface or similar).
 
  People wanting a cd could bring in their own blanks or the library
  could sell them.
 
  The server could be configured to auto update / download the latest 
  distro's.
 
  Regards
  Michael
 
 
 
 What makes you think the city council/library want to provide this 
 service, would allow a computer set up by an unknown purpose, have the 
 bandwidth to replicate the multitude of distros, and the staff to 
 maintain it?

Now, if you were talking about providing that service to/via clug, it would be 
a different matter. And one I would support wholeheartedly - seeing as I'm 
constantly downloading the latest images... for - ahem - testing purposes 
officer (:

Steve


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread goldedge

So I take it your not interested then?


What makes you think the city council/library want to provide this 
service, would allow a computer set up by an unknown purpose, have the 
bandwidth to replicate the multitude of distros, and the staff to 
maintain it?



Regards
Michael


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Philip Charles
On Tuesday 21 August 2007 21:59, Eliot Blennerhassett wrote:
 Graeme Kiyoto-Ward wrote:
  The library is another place to look if you don't want to spend any
  money and don't mind an older distro. Choices are linux magazines or
  look in the OS section of the computer books.

 But who has all the recent copies of LXF (Linux Format Mag)? Is it
 members of this list?

 I.e. latest issue is 96, one copy on latest issues shelf at central,
 other 2 copies on loan.

 95,94,93, 90, 89, 88, 87  all  copies on loan
 92,91  one copy on shelf at South (ooh better get down there...)

No one is going to have a sign Linux Distros for Sale in lights at a 
city mall.  The competition is too fierce to allow a commercially 
acceptable profit margin for Linux discs.  The entry barriers into the 
Linux vendor business are so low that every member of this list could 
become a vendor.

This means that Linux discs are available only on the little known edges 
of normal commerce.  Libraries, eCafes, magazine give-aways, outdated 
discs in computer retail outlets et al.

To date it seems that online vendor is the most successful business model, 
but here there are serious problems.  Competition has forced prices down 
to the level where an online vendor can only supply discs as a sideline 
to their main business, or are prepared to run their enterprise as a 
hobby business like I run Copyleft.

A stranger in town is going to find it difficult to pick up a disc, and I 
would suspect this would apply to any town.

Not that I am complaining about competition and low prices of Linux 
installation media, I consider this to be one of the glories of floss.  
But we need to recognise there is a downside as well.

Phil.

-- 
  Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand
   +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
  I sell GNU/Linux  GNU/Hurd CDs  DVDs.   See http://www.copyleft.co.nz


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Chris Hellyar
Wearing my 'IS Manager for a Council' hat...

Aside from the great laugh you'd give the council/library staff, this
idea wouldn't be much chop.

But, libraries might be open to the idea of a club providing a small
display stand, with some information about FOSS and some free distro
CD's for people to try, but anything that requires the library staff to
provide semi-technical help to members of the public quickly becomes a
hot potato.

Cheers, Me.

On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 21:14 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 goldedge wrote:
  That is we supply the hardware and perhaps a method of point'n'klik tm
  burning? ( web page interface or similar).
 
  People wanting a cd could bring in their own blanks or the library
  could sell them.
 
  The server could be configured to auto update / download the latest 
  distro's.
 
 What makes you think the city council/library want to provide this 
 service, would allow a computer set up by an unknown purpose, have the 
 bandwidth to replicate the multitude of distros, and the staff to 
 maintain it?




Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Vik Olliver
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 20:16 +1200, alanw wrote:
 No and no. Mepis is just an example. The only one that's worked for me
 so
 far.

Linux is meant to be copied. To be shared by the users. That's how it
propagates, not through retail stores.

Vik :v)



Re: (slightly ot) Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-21 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, August 21, 2007 10:12 pm, Steve Holdoway wrote:

 
 What makes you think the city council/library want to provide this
 service, would allow a computer set up by an unknown purpose, have the
 bandwidth to replicate the multitude of distros, and the staff to
 maintain it?

 Now, if you were talking about providing that service to/via clug, it
 would be a different matter. And one I would support wholeheartedly -
 seeing as I'm constantly downloading the latest images... for - ahem -
 testing purposes officer (:

 Steve


Where would you set up such a service? Obviously not going to work
standalone, need another business to tack on to, like a net cafe or
whatever.

I don't imagine your boss is going to stand for queues of people at the
door clutching $1 coins or wanting to swap a third hand video card for the
latest CD :-)

Actually trademe often has people advertising linux cd's e.g.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Software/Operating-systems/Linux/auction-114563184.htm?p=14

Although obviously not necessarily a solution for a traveller, it may be
useful for some. It does illustrate the economics of it - the product is
roughly the same price as the postage! Talk about carbon costs!



-- 
Nick Rout



Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-20 Thread alanw
I'm trying to compile a list of places in Christchurch where people can get
a CD of (any) Linux distribution.

I realise most people with broadband probably just download the latest
version off the net. But for those of us on dialup, it would be handy to
know the nearest place to get a CD (either for sale or to give away).

If you know such a place, could you please post to this list (or email me
personally), with the name of the distro (and version number, if you know
it.)

If there's already a list like this and you can point me to it, I'd
appreciate it.

Many thanks...









Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-20 Thread Christopher Sawtell
http://www.copyleft.co.nz/

not exactly the cheapest but an honest and well-run business.
based in Dunedin using fast-post to get your CD to you.

Otherwise
http://shipit.ubuntu.com
for free factory preessed CDs of the *buntu distros to you by post
Usually takes about two weeks or so.

$5 per CD is generally considered a fair price for an informal commissioned d/l.

remember that 4 overnighters will get you a CD iso image via dial-up.

On 8/21/07, alanw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to compile a list of places in Christchurch where people can get
 a CD of (any) Linux distribution.

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-20 Thread alanw
Thanks Chris, but the point of the exercise is... ah, what would you call
it?... get it now?

If I wanted a copy of a Linux distribution, say Mepis, for example, where
could I get it, within the hour?

I can pick up a micro$oft CD from a multitude of places, and have it in my
hot little hand, within the hour, because it's everywhere practically.  Yet,
I can't do that with Linux.  Simply because I don't know where to go.

Picture someone in Chch on holiday, say, and they don't know anyone here
yet.  They hear of a new distro they want to try out on their laptop maybe.
But they don't have broadband (or it's not working, whatever)... where can
they get the CD?

Is there a list of places I could point them to?  No. I don't even know
myself where I'd go.

So I've got the yellow pages open, and am ringing around.  So far...

Harvey Norman is out, no Linux at all.  Future plans - none.

The Computer Broker used to have Ubuntu for $5 but no longer stock it.
Future plans - none.

Dick Smith?  Old and new versions of Ubuntu - $7 and $9.  Get it now?


















Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-20 Thread Steve Holdoway
Isn't there an e-caf over by the arts centre thar offers this?

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:21:15 +1200
alanw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Chris, but the point of the exercise is... ah, what would you call
 it?... get it now?

 If I wanted a copy of a Linux distribution, say Mepis, for example, where
 could I get it, within the hour?

 I can pick up a micro$oft CD from a multitude of places, and have it in my
 hot little hand, within the hour, because it's everywhere practically.  Yet,
 I can't do that with Linux.  Simply because I don't know where to go.

 Picture someone in Chch on holiday, say, and they don't know anyone here
 yet.  They hear of a new distro they want to try out on their laptop maybe.
 But they don't have broadband (or it's not working, whatever)... where can
 they get the CD?

 Is there a list of places I could point them to?  No. I don't even know
 myself where I'd go.

 So I've got the yellow pages open, and am ringing around.  So far...

 Harvey Norman is out, no Linux at all.  Future plans - none.

 The Computer Broker used to have Ubuntu for $5 but no longer stock it.
 Future plans - none.

 Dick Smith?  Old and new versions of Ubuntu - $7 and $9.  Get it now?


















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Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-20 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On 8/21/07, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Isn't there an e-caf over by the arts centre that offers this?

Got done over by a bunch of violent criminals who emptied his till
more than once, and then he went bust.

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CS


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-20 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On 8/21/07, alanw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Chris, but the point of the exercise is... ah, what would you call
 it?... get it now?
Off the internet. Provided the other end is fast enough you'll get a
CD in less than an hour.

 If I wanted a copy of a Linux distribution, say Mepis, for example, where
 could I get it, within the hour?
ditto.

[ .. ]

 Is there a list of places I could point them to?  No. I don't even know
 myself where I'd go.

 So I've got the yellow pages open, and am ringing around.
You havn't got it open at the right page.
Try  818 in the current book.

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Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-20 Thread Nick Rout
You'd post on this list and get in touch with a supplier within a few hours.


On Tue, August 21, 2007 2:21 pm, alanw wrote:
 Thanks Chris, but the point of the exercise is... ah, what would you call
 it?... get it now?

 If I wanted a copy of a Linux distribution, say Mepis, for example, where
 could I get it, within the hour?

 I can pick up a micro$oft CD from a multitude of places, and have it in my
 hot little hand, within the hour, because it's everywhere practically.
 Yet,
 I can't do that with Linux.  Simply because I don't know where to go.

 Picture someone in Chch on holiday, say, and they don't know anyone here
 yet.  They hear of a new distro they want to try out on their laptop
 maybe.
 But they don't have broadband (or it's not working, whatever)... where can
 they get the CD?

 Is there a list of places I could point them to?  No. I don't even know
 myself where I'd go.

 So I've got the yellow pages open, and am ringing around.  So far...

 Harvey Norman is out, no Linux at all.  Future plans - none.

 The Computer Broker used to have Ubuntu for $5 but no longer stock it.
 Future plans - none.

 Dick Smith?  Old and new versions of Ubuntu - $7 and $9.  Get it now?



















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Nick Rout



Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points

2007-08-20 Thread alanw
Thanks Chris.

  So I've got the yellow pages open, and am ringing around.
 You havn't got it open at the right page. Try  818 in the current book.

So, you're saying... try an internet cafe?  For downloading?

Fair comment.  Assuming there's a terminal free, and the place isn't chocka
with Asians.

Or do all the ecafes stock Linux CDs too?  (Sorry, I don't know... I'm
rarely a patron of such establishments.)