Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:31:32 Roger Searle wrote: steve wrote: Which'll have nothing to do with the odd MP living over here, in which way is he/she odd? or is it just the usual given their occupation . . . I think what Steve meant here is that there are multiple MP's in his neighbourhood and the improvements in service are for them. -- Quote of the login: Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what's incomplete and saying: Now it's complete because it's ended here. -- Muad'dib, Dune
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
I am on the 10 Gig Telstra Clear plan (naked cable) with WorldXChange VFX VIOP phone line. It costs $55+$12 per month. The only issue with using cable internet instead of naked DSL has been that I have a separate cable modem, wireless router and VOIP thingy where if I had gone with naked DSL I could have got a all in one ADSL/WiFi/VOIP device. I also can set the home phone to divert to my mobile phone if nobody picks up after a few rings (or if the Internet is out), which has been a very handy feature for me. --Warren 2009/9/25 yuri yur...@gmail.com: Andrew Errington wrote: Ummm, I have no phone line, but I get up to 100Mbps via FTTH with no data cap. I pay about $30 per month. This is in a small rural town in South Korea. Compare apples with apples! NZ is waaay behind places like South Korea. It may be economies of scale, or Korea might have better laws. Or did you just post that to make us bitterly jealous? It worked. Yuri
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
Andrew Errington wrote: Ummm, I have no phone line, but I get up to 100Mbps via FTTH with no data cap. I pay about $30 per month. This is in a small rural town in South Korea. Compare apples with apples! NZ is waaay behind places like South Korea. It may be economies of scale, or Korea might have better laws. Or did you just post that to make us bitterly jealous? It worked. Yuri
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:14:46 Robert Fisher wrote: Xtra (Telecom) used to be difficult, especially when they were supplying the connection for another ISP. I considered it anti competitive but got nowher when I complained to the Commerce Commission. Their call centre staff are trained to think that any software that's freely available is illegal. Linux included. -- Quote of the login: Profanity is the one language all programmers know best.
OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You can do VOIP to somewhere like 2talk for $cheap. I've always had A problem with the idea of running VoIP, what happens when your internet is down? how do you ring customer service? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq6kvgACgkQGplaCYOFvyv2MQCfa/RuvLo7CypxWCJA8U60VWZ5 4ioAnR5bQ3jJ0b2oWVZGoZbMN9EhynsW =mE74 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On a similar note and sorry to top the thread...but what are the contract terms like for broadband, are they all 12 months 24 months or are there any that offer short term, casual contracts? Usually you can do it casual if you pay for the connection fee other wise you will have to pay a disconnection fee -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq6k7UACgkQGplaCYOFvyvUWgCeJen32jz6oDkjLZ3gXYPJX10q RjIAoIacVSU9bUiWiGrDr0nN31+QtqFb =Ewow -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
Payne, Owen wrote, On 23/09/09 16:21: On a similar note and sorry to top the thread...but what are the contract terms like for broadband, are they all 12 months 24 months or are there any that offer short term, casual contracts? You could also go for a cellular device like a vodem or a t3g stick, so that you're not tied down to a specific location/property. -- Craig Falconer
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Daniel Hill wrote, On 24/09/09 09:28: You can do VOIP to somewhere like 2talk for $cheap. I've always had A problem with the idea of running VoIP, what happens when your internet is down? how do you ring customer service? You spend some of that money you save on a cell phone call. Telecom phone = $50 a month, plus $3.95 for CID plus $10 for voicemail 2talk phone = $15 a month, includes CID and voicemail. A linksys pap2t pays for itself in only 3 months, and the increase in internet traffic is fairly small - for me its ~1GB/month but thats with a teenager on the phone 2 hours a day. If you are still unsure - get a 2talk free account - allows you to make 15 minutes/month of voip calls for nothing. And you can get a softphone for linux or windows so there's no hardware costs to trial. Of course if your DSL is ratelimited then voip will be pretty terrible. -- Craig Falconer
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:28:25 Daniel Hill wrote: I've always had A problem with the idea of running VoIP, what happens when your internet is down? how do you ring customer service? Use your mobile :) VoIP isn't for everyone of course, and a reliable Internet connection is needed. However if your connection is reliable then typically you wouldn't notice the difference, apart from more money in the pocket. hads -- https://nicegear.co.nz VoIP and Open Source Hardware
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 when your internet is down? how do you ring customer service? You spend some of that money you save on a cell phone call. Telecom phone = $50 a month, plus $3.95 for CID plus $10 for voicemail 2talk phone = $15 a month, includes CID and voicemail. A linksys pap2t pays for itself in only 3 months, and the increase in internet traffic is fairly small - for me its ~1GB/month but thats with a teenager on the phone 2 hours a day. If you are still unsure - get a 2talk free account - allows you to make 15 minutes/month of voip calls for nothing. And you can get a softphone for linux or windows so there's no hardware costs to trial. Of course if your DSL is ratelimited then voip will be pretty terrible. Recomended Naked DSL provider? I found http://www.xnet.co.nz/fusion/ but it's bundle only -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq6l6QACgkQGplaCYOFvyuICACglpyZtQJnSp6ubn4WX29JxB4E imwAnid6Am2S+6rCKoesIoJnMOzDgi+t =itKC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
Daniel Hill wrote, On 24/09/09 09:48: Recomended Naked DSL provider? I found http://www.xnet.co.nz/fusion/ but it's bundle only I can't make any recommendations as I use cable. -- Craig Falconer
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Daniel Hill wrote, On 24/09/09 09:48: Recomended Naked DSL provider? I found http://www.xnet.co.nz/fusion/ but it's bundle only I can't make any recommendations as I use cable. So fo I. will telstra give you naked cable?
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
Nick Rout wrote, On 24/09/09 12:25: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Daniel Hill wrote, On 24/09/09 09:48: Recomended Naked DSL provider? I found http://www.xnet.co.nz/fusion/ but it's bundle only I can't make any recommendations as I use cable. So fo I. will telstra give you naked cable? *boggle* mental images. Cable is naked anyway - the phone services they offer are supplied over a separate copper pair from the coaxial cable used for cable The smallest plan you can get from Telstraclear that doesn't have a bundled phone service is 10 Gbytes at 4/2 Mbit. Any less than that, you have to get a package with a phone line... Which is another way of saying there's not enough margin in low use data connections -- Craig Falconer
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On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Nick Rout wrote, On 24/09/09 12:25: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Daniel Hill wrote, On 24/09/09 09:48: Recomended Naked DSL provider? I found http://www.xnet.co.nz/fusion/ but it's bundle only I can't make any recommendations as I use cable. So fo I. will telstra give you naked cable? *boggle* mental images. Cable is naked anyway - the phone services they offer are supplied over a separate copper pair from the coaxial cable used for cable The smallest plan you can get from Telstraclear that doesn't have a bundled phone service is 10 Gbytes at 4/2 Mbit. Any less than that, you have to get a package with a phone line... Which is another way of saying there's not enough margin in low use data connections Sorry i probably could have looked that up for myself. Of course I meant 'cable without a phone contract'
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Nick Rout wrote, On 24/09/09 12:25: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Daniel Hill wrote, On 24/09/09 09:48: Recomended Naked DSL provider? I found http://www.xnet.co.nz/fusion/ but it's bundle only I can't make any recommendations as I use cable. So fo I. will telstra give you naked cable? *boggle* mental images. Cable is naked anyway - the phone services they offer are supplied over a separate copper pair from the coaxial cable used for cable The smallest plan you can get from Telstraclear that doesn't have a bundled phone service is 10 Gbytes at 4/2 Mbit. Any less than that, you have to get a package with a phone line... OK I am on phone plus 40G @ 10Mbps for $146.90 at present. http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/residential/inhome/packages/ I could go to 2talk and get 500 minutes to 40 countries and 25c/min to cellphones for $15.00 and get the internet portion for $109.95, total $124.95. Plus you get services such as caller id and messaging for nix. http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/residential/inhome/internet/cable-broadband/plans.cfm Profit :)
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 15:22 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: OK I am on phone plus 40G @ 10Mbps for $146.90 at present. That's pretty comparable with what I get on adsl from Voda/ihug, except that I average nearer 7-8Mbit ( in practice, quiet times - currently 4mbit/700kbit ) with an old ADSL2 router. I expect your uplink speed'll be much better though, which is important with VOIP. However, according to telecom, VDSL is coming to Diamond Harbour real soon now. Which'll have nothing to do with the odd MP living over here, will it (: Cheers, Steve -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz GPG Fingerprint = B337 828D 03E1 4F11 CB90 853C C8AB AF04 EF68 52E0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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steve wrote: Which'll have nothing to do with the odd MP living over here, in which way is he/she odd? or is it just the usual given their occupation . . .
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Thu, September 24, 2009 12:49, steve wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 15:22 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: OK I am on phone plus 40G @ 10Mbps for $146.90 at present. That's pretty comparable with what I get on adsl from Voda/ihug, except that I average nearer 7-8Mbit ( in practice, quiet times - currently 4mbit/700kbit ) with an old ADSL2 router. I expect your uplink speed'll be much better though, which is important with VOIP. Ummm, I have no phone line, but I get up to 100Mbps via FTTH with no data cap. I pay about $30 per month. This is in a small rural town in South Korea. A
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:49 PM, steve st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 15:22 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: OK I am on phone plus 40G @ 10Mbps for $146.90 at present. That's pretty comparable with what I get on adsl from Voda/ihug, except that I average nearer 7-8Mbit ( in practice, quiet times - currently 4mbit/700kbit ) with an old ADSL2 router. I expect your uplink speed'll be much better though, which is important with VOIP. Link is allegedly 10M down 2M up. According to rtorrent I can pretty well get about 2/3 to 3/4 of that speed sustained on download, assuming there are enough peers with enough bandwidth to feed me. I can remember downloading a 340MB file in about 8 minutes, which I think is about 5.6Mbps 340 M Bytes divided by 8 mins divide by 60 seconds * 8 bits per byte.
Good broadband provider in Christchurch
Hello I'm currently living in the UK, and am moving to Christchurch in January. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good ISP in NZ? When I was growing up (in NZ), Clear.net.nz were good, but that was back in the days of dial-up. Is the information on http://www.internetchoice.co.nz reliable? How long does it typically take to get a DSL line installed, or would you recommend going wireless? I have my own DSL router, so it'd be nice to be able to use that; although I'm yet to determine if it's 2+ ready. Thanks Dan
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:25:22 Dan Wallis wrote: I'm currently living in the UK, and am moving to Christchurch in January. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good ISP in NZ? When I was growing up (in NZ), Clear.net.nz were good, but that was back in the days of dial-up. Is the information on http://www.internetchoice.co.nz reliable? How long does it typically take to get a DSL line installed, or would you recommend going wireless? I have my own DSL router, so it'd be nice to be able to use that; although I'm yet to determine if it's 2+ ready. A couple of months ago I would have recommended Snap without hesitation. Unfortunately they currently have some severe ongoing International speed issues which means I can't completely recommend them. hads -- https://nicegear.co.nz VoIP and Open Source Hardware
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On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Dan Wallis mrdanwal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I'm currently living in the UK, and am moving to Christchurch in January. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good ISP in NZ? When I was growing up (in NZ), Clear.net.nz were good, but that was back in the days of dial-up. Is the information on http://www.internetchoice.co.nz reliable? How long does it typically take to get a DSL line installed, or would you recommend going wireless? I have my own DSL router, so it'd be nice to be able to use that; although I'm yet to determine if it's 2+ ready. If where you are living has acces to telstraclear cable, go for it. It may not be the cheapest, but it is very capable and fast. Just watch your monthly limit... there is a coverage map here: http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/residential/inhome/
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Wednesday 23 September 2009, Dan Wallis wrote: Hello I'm currently living in the UK, and am moving to Christchurch in January. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good ISP in NZ? When I was growing up (in NZ), Clear.net.nz were good, but that was back in the days of dial-up. Is the information on http://www.internetchoice.co.nz reliable? How long does it typically take to get a DSL line installed, or would you recommend going wireless? I have my own DSL router, so it'd be nice to be able to use that; although I'm yet to determine if it's 2+ ready. Thanks Dan To test ADSL2+ availability go to; http://www.telecom.co.nz/adsl2 and enter your future street address into the search box. Cheers Ross Drummond
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Wallis wrote: Hello I'm currently living in the UK, and am moving to Christchurch in January. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good ISP in NZ? When I was growing up (in NZ), Clear.net.nz were good, but that was back in the days of dial-up. Is the information on http://www.internetchoice.co.nz reliable? How long does it typically take to get a DSL line installed, or would you recommend going wireless? I have my own DSL router, so it'd be nice to be able to use that; although I'm yet to determine if it's 2+ ready. Thanks Dan I'm currently with Xnet.co.nz they have very flexable plans specially if you download alot of data -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq5gX0ACgkQGplaCYOFvyuAjQCeM9RL2O2jK1P0lwOXFELfYBeA eeIAn0/GsianuiOF5y937vQK9G4IvhAt =P2dM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
Dan Wallis wrote, On 23/09/09 13:38: I'm currently living in the UK, and am moving to Christchurch in January. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good ISP in NZ? When I was growing up (in NZ), Clear.net.nz were good, but that was back in the days of dial-up. Is the information on http://www.internetchoice.co.nz reliable? How long does it typically take to get a DSL line installed, or would you recommend going wireless? I have my own DSL router, so it'd be nice to be able to use that; although I'm yet to determine if it's 2+ ready. Apparently the DSL standards in the UK and NZ are compatible but not identical. VPI/VCI numbers are 0/100 here. Telecom will give you a free modem with a new connection, but its a ratty thomson speedtouch. Most ISPs will have some similar deal. Even if your current router is ADSL2 capable, doesn't mean your location will be. I get only 3.2 Mbit, 2 km from the city centre. Frankly I think you should find somewhere to rent short-term, in the city you're working in, while you see what's really available. Some locations have cable from telstraclear, and some are VDSL capable if theres telstraclear copper to the property. If you're central city there will be FTTH - how big are your pockets? Wireless availability depends 100% on your location. Netspeed are good in Christchurch, but they're twice the cost of DSL. DSL install is normally a couple of days - tech rocks out to the exchange or cabinet, and hooks your house pair to a DSLAM or ASAM. You get couriered a pack with a modem/filters etc. Or you can get the full install where a tech fits a hardwired filter and tests it on site. FYI - ISPs other than Xtra/Telecom can offer Naked DSL, where there is no telephone service on the wire. You can do VOIP to somewhere like 2talk for $cheap. Specially if you'll be calling the UK a lot. Feel free to email me off list for more info -- Craig Falconer
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:25:22 Dan Wallis wrote: Hello I'm currently living in the UK, and am moving to Christchurch in January. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good ISP in NZ? When I was growing up (in NZ), Clear.net.nz were good, but that was back in the days of dial-up. Is the information on http://www.internetchoice.co.nz reliable? I use and recommend Orcon. They have provided me and many customers with good service and they consistently rate high in Customer satisfaction. How long does it typically take to get a DSL line installed, Xtra (Telecom) used to be difficult, especially when they were supplying the connection for another ISP. I considered it anti competitive but got nowher when I complained to the Commerce Commission. or would you recommend going wireless? I have my own DSL router, so it'd be nice to be able to use that; although I'm yet to determine if it's 2+ ready. Thanks Dan -- Regards, Robert -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) www.fisher.net.nz Phone: 03 383 5807 Mobile: 027 228 4698
RE: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
On a similar note and sorry to top the thread...but what are the contract terms like for broadband, are they all 12 months 24 months or are there any that offer short term, casual contracts? -Original Message- From: Robert Fisher [mailto:rob...@fisher.net.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2009 4:15 pm To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:25:22 Dan Wallis wrote: Hello I'm currently living in the UK, and am moving to Christchurch in January. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good ISP in NZ? When I was growing up (in NZ), Clear.net.nz were good, but that was back in the days of dial-up. Is the information on http://www.internetchoice.co.nz reliable? I use and recommend Orcon. They have provided me and many customers with good service and they consistently rate high in Customer satisfaction. How long does it typically take to get a DSL line installed, Xtra (Telecom) used to be difficult, especially when they were supplying the connection for another ISP. I considered it anti competitive but got nowher when I complained to the Commerce Commission. or would you recommend going wireless? I have my own DSL router, so it'd be nice to be able to use that; although I'm yet to determine if it's 2+ ready. Thanks Dan -- Regards, Robert -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) www.fisher.net.nz Phone: 03 383 5807 Mobile: 027 228 4698 ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
