Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. -- I work at http://libertus.co.uk -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
+1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
On 01/03/13 at 07:46am, Randall Ross wrote: On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. A total +1 Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would solve that problem. The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, c. Passing out a burned disk scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be live, so that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if Canonical were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is installed immediately. So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for marketing materials like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers would be nice, tho. --Bob. On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Hi, An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be written about 10 000 times. Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days. On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would solve that problem. The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, c. Passing out a burned disk scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be live, so that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if Canonical were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is installed immediately. So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for marketing materials like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers would be nice, tho. --Bob. On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- Alexandru Cucu -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
