Re: Kerala team? Re: Assistance needed
On 06/11/12 08:45, Lucas Betschart wrote AFAIK (according to Jono) that's not allowed. At least it wasn't for us (Switzerland) when I asked. We've got the same problem (3 languages), just in a smaller size. But the LoCo's you've listed aren't Approved LoCo's, that's maybe the reason why. It is certainly discouraged, but people promoting Ubuntu in different ways and in different places is always a good thing. Part of the point of the LoCo structure is to be geographically grouped by country so that various free goodies can be sent out like the CDs. There is no reason why an India LoCo couldn't have pretty much independent groups within it for various regions and languages. You just need to show that you are organised and active as a team to get approved status. Yes, the USA is a bit of an exception with various states running as independent LoCos, however if you want an India LoCo that is approved and gets the free CDs then working as one team is the way forward. If you don't care about that, then carry on! Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Kerala team? Re: Assistance needed
On 06/11/12 08:56, Alan Bell wrote: On 06/11/12 08:45, Lucas Betschart wrote AFAIK (according to Jono) that's not allowed. At least it wasn't for us (Switzerland) when I asked. We've got the same problem (3 languages), just in a smaller size. But the LoCo's you've listed aren't Approved LoCo's, that's maybe the reason why. It is certainly discouraged, but people promoting Ubuntu in different ways and in different places is always a good thing. Part of the point of the LoCo structure is to be geographically grouped by country so that various free goodies can be sent out like the CDs. There is no reason why an India LoCo couldn't have pretty much independent groups within it for various regions and languages. You just need to show that you are organised and active as a team to get approved status. Yes, the USA is a bit of an exception with various states running as independent LoCos, however if you want an India LoCo that is approved and gets the free CDs then working as one team is the way forward. If you don't care about that, then carry on! Alan. This has come up at the last uds and the uds prior to that also, the loco council is actually trying to work out how best to deal with situations like this. Indian loco is not the only one who has come up against this issue. There are a number of large country locations that could do with being broken down like the USA has done. This is currently something we are looking into this cycle. Laura -- Laura Czajkowski https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Kerala team? Re: Assistance needed
Thanks for writing, Prince Mathew. It sounds like you have a good opportunity to make a difference for Kerala and for Ubuntu! It would seem that talking with the Malayalam language team, the Indian team and the LoCo Council may indeed prove fruitful. But discussion here could also be of interest. E.g. I am curious how activities of this sort are organized in other large, diverse or multi-lingual countries. In the US, which is smaller and less diverse than India, several states have their own loco teams. The region guidelines (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamRegions) say e.g. for Russia, Each team should cover a 'federal subject'. But they don't have a suggestion for countries in Asia. Are there other countries with multiple teams? Are there some good models to follow? Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 09:26:57PM -0500, José Antonio Rey wrote: In my opinion, this is something that needs to be addressed to the LoCo Council. You can reach them at loco-coun...@lists.ubuntu.com. On 11/05/2012 09:22 PM, Prince Mathew wrote: I am again confused. What is the difference between a LoCo and a Translation team? I have seen many teams such as Ubuntu Tamil Team in the list of LoCos. I thought both are same. My primary aim is to start a LoCo, not an online translation team. I have people from my area who are interested to participate. We are planning to conduct real-world awareness programs, promotion campaigns, training for school children, demonstrations, etc. But we are also ready to undertake some of the localization activities. India is a large country and Indian states are comparable with countries in Europe. Each state has it's own regional language (except Hindi speaking states) and most of the states are as big as a typical European country (both in area and population). My plan is to set up a LoCo for Kerala state. The official policy of Kerala state government is to promote Linux and open softwares but due to the unwillingness of employees in government departments, they are still using proprietory Windows. If adequate awareness and training imparted, we can totally replace Windows with Ubuntu. We can tell them that Ubuntu is available in their own mother-tongue. There are many tools developed by http://smc.org.in, but common people are nowhere near using these tools due to the lack of basic knowledge in Linux. If we provide them a basic training and ensure continued assistance, they would feel confidence in trying Linux. On 11/6/12, Ko Ko Ye` kokoye2...@gmail.com wrote: you can joint India loco team Malayalam language team http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/indian-team https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MalayalamTranslation https://launchpad.net/~lp-l10n-ml On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Rafael Carreras rcarre...@ubuntu.cat wrote: 2012/11/5 Prince Mathew mr.princemat...@gmail.com: Hi, My name is Prince Mathew and I would like to start a LoCo in Kerala, India for supporting Ubuntu in Malayalam language. I have read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto page and still I am not clear on how to start a LoCo. For example, where should I register the name of my new LoCo? How can I get approved as LoCoTeamContact? Who gives the administratorship? Where should I exactly begin? Hello Prince. There are some examples of LoCo Teams based on language, not country. So you can start a LoCo Team if you have some people ready to work. You can start it by setting a mailing list. I don't know if you have contacts on some university or you have a server you can install a mailman, that would be nice. You can register your LoCo Team (once it is really running) on LoCo Team Portal (http://loco.ubuntu.com/) by creating a group in Launchpad and adding it to locoteams group (https://launchpad.net/~locoteams). Well, you must learn how to use Launchpad is you are not used to it. In the long term, you can apply for you LoCo to be Approved, but that's another story. Don't hesitate to ask more questions. Good luck! -- Rafael Carreras Guillén | gpg.id 2C1AF9C5 http://rcarreras.caliu.cat -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Kerala team? Re: Assistance needed
But such regional LoCos are already present in other parts of India. loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-delhi loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-bangalore On 11/6/12, Neal McBurnett n...@bcn.boulder.co.us wrote: Thanks for writing, Prince Mathew. It sounds like you have a good opportunity to make a difference for Kerala and for Ubuntu! It would seem that talking with the Malayalam language team, the Indian team and the LoCo Council may indeed prove fruitful. But discussion here could also be of interest. E.g. I am curious how activities of this sort are organized in other large, diverse or multi-lingual countries. In the US, which is smaller and less diverse than India, several states have their own loco teams. The region guidelines (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamRegions) say e.g. for Russia, Each team should cover a 'federal subject'. But they don't have a suggestion for countries in Asia. Are there other countries with multiple teams? Are there some good models to follow? Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 09:26:57PM -0500, José Antonio Rey wrote: In my opinion, this is something that needs to be addressed to the LoCo Council. You can reach them at loco-coun...@lists.ubuntu.com. On 11/05/2012 09:22 PM, Prince Mathew wrote: I am again confused. What is the difference between a LoCo and a Translation team? I have seen many teams such as Ubuntu Tamil Team in the list of LoCos. I thought both are same. My primary aim is to start a LoCo, not an online translation team. I have people from my area who are interested to participate. We are planning to conduct real-world awareness programs, promotion campaigns, training for school children, demonstrations, etc. But we are also ready to undertake some of the localization activities. India is a large country and Indian states are comparable with countries in Europe. Each state has it's own regional language (except Hindi speaking states) and most of the states are as big as a typical European country (both in area and population). My plan is to set up a LoCo for Kerala state. The official policy of Kerala state government is to promote Linux and open softwares but due to the unwillingness of employees in government departments, they are still using proprietory Windows. If adequate awareness and training imparted, we can totally replace Windows with Ubuntu. We can tell them that Ubuntu is available in their own mother-tongue. There are many tools developed by http://smc.org.in, but common people are nowhere near using these tools due to the lack of basic knowledge in Linux. If we provide them a basic training and ensure continued assistance, they would feel confidence in trying Linux. On 11/6/12, Ko Ko Ye` kokoye2...@gmail.com wrote: you can joint India loco team Malayalam language team http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/indian-team https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MalayalamTranslation https://launchpad.net/~lp-l10n-ml On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Rafael Carreras rcarre...@ubuntu.cat wrote: 2012/11/5 Prince Mathew mr.princemat...@gmail.com: Hi, My name is Prince Mathew and I would like to start a LoCo in Kerala, India for supporting Ubuntu in Malayalam language. I have read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto page and still I am not clear on how to start a LoCo. For example, where should I register the name of my new LoCo? How can I get approved as LoCoTeamContact? Who gives the administratorship? Where should I exactly begin? Hello Prince. There are some examples of LoCo Teams based on language, not country. So you can start a LoCo Team if you have some people ready to work. You can start it by setting a mailing list. I don't know if you have contacts on some university or you have a server you can install a mailman, that would be nice. You can register your LoCo Team (once it is really running) on LoCo Team Portal (http://loco.ubuntu.com/) by creating a group in Launchpad and adding it to locoteams group (https://launchpad.net/~locoteams). Well, you must learn how to use Launchpad is you are not used to it. In the long term, you can apply for you LoCo to be Approved, but that's another story. Don't hesitate to ask more questions. Good luck! -- Rafael Carreras Guillén | gpg.id 2C1AF9C5 http://rcarreras.caliu.cat -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
