Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
On Mar 3, 2013 10:44 AM, Laura Czajkowski la...@lczajkowski.com wrote: On 03/03/13 18:27, Pablo Rubianes wrote: Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in our LoCo How does that differ from conference pack that is available to get any any time throughout the year - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences Is it these stickers folks are talking about ? - http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718 Laura I think the discussion was a result of a conversation Randall and I had. We were discussing the minimal resources and swag provided to LoCo's in comparison to other FOSS projects and that we felt it might be good to discuss the possibility of more assets since its not always possible for LoCo contacts to buy these items and then turnaround and give them away. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/13 15:46, Randall Ross wrote: On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. Hi, What kind of marketing material were you thinking about? As when this has come up in the past at previous UDS sessions it was mooted due to cost of printing shipping, languages available/not available and keeping material up to date. The same could be said about the environment about printed material, it could too also become a negative impact on the environment. Laura - -- Laura Czajkowski https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRMxCjAAoJELllHW/CZzJaKYYH/RCMcB91XAn4Vo+1IJyis03P 6sCXRpCnrK6kvxgeVEu0s0uuHJtXRI031IcrihAxeueBMKgx+rVP7AiLM1X9dmSN 7DV5cCt1fk5Ql9kv8p50TU3rqJvdvMsR0xF+q0xryvCm4Q0cttNFPhgT4Lq9hhx9 +3lMFqhYdtgNixpWm1WpQrIo6FCeXPKHIGtW+h4+Z7aAdmLfood4WvKrfZSMRFz+ XYNP9YRi6Kb0XDuTX7XuEP2KOjaDK89fiS0TiJyp46yWObxwAQnjZW47dEUgQIQ2 VDdgVTKVK1YawB3Be/TaRqXgYi8E8eohRz+mH4OMoUaqNt9RU8+ylcpiWGMY8hY= =DwuA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
hi Laura, in my personnel experience , users was more interested into stickers (différent type) then CD. it makes a permanent publicity too. I think we can have some useful materials for any loco without customization. Cordialement Zied ALAYA Le 3 mars 2013 09:58, Laura Czajkowski la...@lczajkowski.com a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/13 15:46, Randall Ross wrote: On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. Hi, What kind of marketing material were you thinking about? As when this has come up in the past at previous UDS sessions it was mooted due to cost of printing shipping, languages available/not available and keeping material up to date. The same could be said about the environment about printed material, it could too also become a negative impact on the environment. Laura - -- Laura Czajkowski https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRMxCjAAoJELllHW/CZzJaKYYH/RCMcB91XAn4Vo+1IJyis03P 6sCXRpCnrK6kvxgeVEu0s0uuHJtXRI031IcrihAxeueBMKgx+rVP7AiLM1X9dmSN 7DV5cCt1fk5Ql9kv8p50TU3rqJvdvMsR0xF+q0xryvCm4Q0cttNFPhgT4Lq9hhx9 +3lMFqhYdtgNixpWm1WpQrIo6FCeXPKHIGtW+h4+Z7aAdmLfood4WvKrfZSMRFz+ XYNP9YRi6Kb0XDuTX7XuEP2KOjaDK89fiS0TiJyp46yWObxwAQnjZW47dEUgQIQ2 VDdgVTKVK1YawB3Be/TaRqXgYi8E8eohRz+mH4OMoUaqNt9RU8+ylcpiWGMY8hY= =DwuA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Stickers are awesome. +1 stickers. Everybody loves stickers. Especially because they're much less likely to incur taxes, duties and (especially) brokerage fees. Darcy. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alexandru Cucu cracknel@gmail.comwrote: Hi, An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be written about 10 000 times. Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days. On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would solve that problem. The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, c. Passing out a burned disk scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be live, so that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if Canonical were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is installed immediately. So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for marketing materials like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers would be nice, tho. --Bob. On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contactshttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- Alexandru Cucu -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contactshttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
+1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in our LoCo On 3 March 2013 18:42, Darcy Casselman dscas...@gmail.com wrote: Stickers are awesome. +1 stickers. Everybody loves stickers. Especially because they're much less likely to incur taxes, duties and (especially) brokerage fees. Darcy. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alexandru Cucu cracknel@gmail.comwrote: Hi, An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be written about 10 000 times. Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days. On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would solve that problem. The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, c. Passing out a burned disk scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be live, so that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if Canonical were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is installed immediately. So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for marketing materials like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers would be nice, tho. --Bob. On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contactshttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- Alexandru Cucu -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contactshttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu and find out why it is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a newer version of your current system. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in our LoCo On 3 March 2013 18:42, Darcy Casselman dscas...@gmail.com wrote: Stickers are awesome. +1 stickers. Everybody loves stickers. Especially because they're much less likely to incur taxes, duties and (especially) brokerage fees. Darcy. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alexandru Cucu cracknel@gmail.comwrote: Hi, An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be written about 10 000 times. Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days. On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would solve that problem. The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, c. Passing out a burned disk scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be live, so that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if Canonical were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is installed immediately. So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for marketing materials like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers would be nice, tho. --Bob. On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contactshttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- Alexandru Cucu -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contactshttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? Check out
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
On 03/03/13 18:27, Pablo Rubianes wrote: Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in our LoCo How does that differ from conference pack that is available to get any any time throughout the year - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences Is it these stickers folks are talking about ? - http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718 Laura -- Laura Czajkowski https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Same thing happens here. Luckily, Ubuntu-PE hasn't been having troubles with CDs/DVDs, but every time they're coming I have to fully explain what they're for. Having USB sticks sent would be a much more difficult thing, as Pablo said. Going back a bit on the thread, some people here still use the CDs/DVDs, as they have low bandwidth or even no Internet connection where they want to install. I would think stickers are a much more affordable and convenient way to *promote* Ubuntu. CDs and DVDs aren't used that much to promote, but they still serve as a way to demonstrate that you're giving something 'official' during events (in case you want to make some copies), or when you want to go and show it to universities, businesses, and others. -- José Antonio Rey 2013/3/3, Pablo Rubianes pablorubianes...@ubuntu.com: Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in our LoCo On 3 March 2013 18:42, Darcy Casselman dscas...@gmail.com wrote: Stickers are awesome. +1 stickers. Everybody loves stickers. Especially because they're much less likely to incur taxes, duties and (especially) brokerage fees. Darcy. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alexandru Cucu cracknel@gmail.comwrote: Hi, An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be written about 10 000 times. Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days. On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would solve that problem. The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, c. Passing out a burned disk scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be live, so that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if Canonical were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is installed immediately. So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for marketing materials like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers would be nice, tho. --Bob. On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Laura: The conference pack is only for events. Maybe what people are mentioning are stickers that we can have at any moment of the year, and just give them out to someone who may be interested. -- José Antonio Rey 2013/3/3, Laura Czajkowski la...@lczajkowski.com: On 03/03/13 18:27, Pablo Rubianes wrote: Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in our LoCo How does that differ from conference pack that is available to get any any time throughout the year - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences Is it these stickers folks are talking about ? - http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718 Laura -- Laura Czajkowski https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
I was taking about thouse stickers, or pens or any other cheap merchandise stuff I am saying it could be better to have two promitional packs, instead of two disks packs. just some thoughts... Pablo 2013/3/3 José Antonio Rey joseeanton...@ubuntu.com Laura: The conference pack is only for events. Maybe what people are mentioning are stickers that we can have at any moment of the year, and just give them out to someone who may be interested. -- José Antonio Rey 2013/3/3, Laura Czajkowski la...@lczajkowski.com: On 03/03/13 18:27, Pablo Rubianes wrote: Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in our LoCo How does that differ from conference pack that is available to get any any time throughout the year - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences Is it these stickers folks are talking about ? - http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718 Laura -- Laura Czajkowski https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Just to remember what happened a couple years ago, pens were shipped in conference packs, but they stopped sending them as some countries were asked about the ink composition in customs, they wanted them to contain non-toxic materials. 2013/3/3, Pablo Rubianes pablorubianes...@ubuntu.com: I was taking about thouse stickers, or pens or any other cheap merchandise stuff I am saying it could be better to have two promitional packs, instead of two disks packs. just some thoughts... Pablo 2013/3/3 José Antonio Rey joseeanton...@ubuntu.com Laura: The conference pack is only for events. Maybe what people are mentioning are stickers that we can have at any moment of the year, and just give them out to someone who may be interested. -- José Antonio Rey 2013/3/3, Laura Czajkowski la...@lczajkowski.com: On 03/03/13 18:27, Pablo Rubianes wrote: Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in our LoCo How does that differ from conference pack that is available to get any any time throughout the year - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences Is it these stickers folks are talking about ? - http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718 Laura -- Laura Czajkowski https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare here. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. Pablo 2013/3/3 Zied ALAYA zied.al...@ubuntu.com hi Laura, in my personnel experience , users was more interested into stickers (différent type) then CD. it makes a permanent publicity too. I think we can have some useful materials for any loco without customization. Cordialement Zied ALAYA Le 3 mars 2013 09:58, Laura Czajkowski la...@lczajkowski.com a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/13 15:46, Randall Ross wrote: On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. Hi, What kind of marketing material were you thinking about? As when this has come up in the past at previous UDS sessions it was mooted due to cost of printing shipping, languages available/not available and keeping material up to date. The same could be said about the environment about printed material, it could too also become a negative impact on the environment. Laura - -- Laura Czajkowski https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRMxCjAAoJELllHW/CZzJaKYYH/RCMcB91XAn4Vo+1IJyis03P 6sCXRpCnrK6kvxgeVEu0s0uuHJtXRI031IcrihAxeueBMKgx+rVP7AiLM1X9dmSN 7DV5cCt1fk5Ql9kv8p50TU3rqJvdvMsR0xF+q0xryvCm4Q0cttNFPhgT4Lq9hhx9 +3lMFqhYdtgNixpWm1WpQrIo6FCeXPKHIGtW+h4+Z7aAdmLfood4WvKrfZSMRFz+ XYNP9YRi6Kb0XDuTX7XuEP2KOjaDK89fiS0TiJyp46yWObxwAQnjZW47dEUgQIQ2 VDdgVTKVK1YawB3Be/TaRqXgYi8E8eohRz+mH4OMoUaqNt9RU8+ylcpiWGMY8hY= =DwuA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
It would appear that the needs are different for each region. Maybe Canonical should tailor differently to each region. Most global companies do. On 3 March 2013 14:55, Pablo Rubianes pablorubia...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare here. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. Pablo 2013/3/3 Zied ALAYA zied.al...@ubuntu.com hi Laura, in my personnel experience , users was more interested into stickers (différent type) then CD. it makes a permanent publicity too. I think we can have some useful materials for any loco without customization. Cordialement Zied ALAYA Le 3 mars 2013 09:58, Laura Czajkowski la...@lczajkowski.com a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/13 15:46, Randall Ross wrote: On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. Hi, What kind of marketing material were you thinking about? As when this has come up in the past at previous UDS sessions it was mooted due to cost of printing shipping, languages available/not available and keeping material up to date. The same could be said about the environment about printed material, it could too also become a negative impact on the environment. Laura - -- Laura Czajkowski https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRMxCjAAoJELllHW/CZzJaKYYH/RCMcB91XAn4Vo+1IJyis03P 6sCXRpCnrK6kvxgeVEu0s0uuHJtXRI031IcrihAxeueBMKgx+rVP7AiLM1X9dmSN 7DV5cCt1fk5Ql9kv8p50TU3rqJvdvMsR0xF+q0xryvCm4Q0cttNFPhgT4Lq9hhx9 +3lMFqhYdtgNixpWm1WpQrIo6FCeXPKHIGtW+h4+Z7aAdmLfood4WvKrfZSMRFz+ XYNP9YRi6Kb0XDuTX7XuEP2KOjaDK89fiS0TiJyp46yWObxwAQnjZW47dEUgQIQ2 VDdgVTKVK1YawB3Be/TaRqXgYi8E8eohRz+mH4OMoUaqNt9RU8+ylcpiWGMY8hY= =DwuA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu and find out why it is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a newer version of your current system. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
It depends on the community, there are still places where CDs are very useful. And there are places where it's not. If we can afford to buy 1GB memory sticks and ship them out by the truck full, then maybe we should kickstarter that as a project for LoCos to invest into. Best Regards, Martin Owens On 1 March 2013 10:46, Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es wrote: On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
+1 for Randall idea. We have the same problem described by Pablo and until now we can't get out our 12.04 CDs pack that's why we did'nt command our 12.10 pack. Cordialement Zied ALAYA Le 03/03/2013 03:08, Martin Owens a écrit : It depends on the community, there are still places where CDs are very useful. And there are places where it's not. If we can afford to buy 1GB memory sticks and ship them out by the truck full, then maybe we should kickstarter that as a project for LoCos to invest into. Best Regards, Martin Owens On 1 March 2013 10:46, Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es wrote: On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. -- I work at http://libertus.co.uk -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
+1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
On 01/03/13 at 07:46am, Randall Ross wrote: On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. A total +1 Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would solve that problem. The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, c. Passing out a burned disk scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be live, so that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if Canonical were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is installed immediately. So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for marketing materials like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers would be nice, tho. --Bob. On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
Hi, An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be written about 10 000 times. Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days. On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would solve that problem. The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, c. Passing out a burned disk scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be live, so that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if Canonical were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is installed immediately. So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for marketing materials like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers would be nice, tho. --Bob. On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos have customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to sell them and dont let it inside the country. And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd Cheers Pablo 2013/3/1 Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why we ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind of inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a pressed DVD. Alan. I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds used for something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing materials). In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu adoption. I have also received comments from my local community about their negative environmental impact and I share those concerns. Cheers, Randall. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- Alexandru Cucu -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
