Re: log4j2 API and JUL logging framework

2023-01-25 Thread Usha Nayak
Thank you again..


On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:45 AM Ralph Goers 
wrote:

> Volkan,
>
> I am not sure what question you are answering but it doesn’t look like the
> question that was asked. To answer his question you would need to replace
> log4j-core with log4j-to-jul as a dependency.
>
> Ralph
>
> > On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:05 AM, Volkan Yazıcı  wrote:
> >
> > That is a really good question addressing a concern that should be shared
> > by every single Java library developer out there, Usha. We sadly don't
> have
> > an official answer to this – we should and maybe who knows, you can
> > contribute that to the Log4j manual! But let me share my take on the
> matter.
> >
> > Libraries should only depend on logging APIs (SLF4J, Log4j, JUL, JCL,
> JPL,
> > etc.) and only provide an implementation (Log4j, Logback, etc.) for their
> > tests. Let me try to get it as concrete as possible by sharing what you
> > need to have in your `pom.xml`:
> >
> > 
> >  
> >
> >
> >  org.apache.logging.log4j
> >  log4j-bom
> >  ${log4j2.version}
> >  pom
> >  import
> >
> >
> >  
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >org.apache.logging.log4j
> >log4j-api
> >  
> >
> >  
> >org.apache.logging.log4j
> >log4j-core
> >test
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > 
> >
> > Next you add a minimal `log4j2.xml` to `src/test/resources` and you are
> > done.
> >
> > It is the responsibility of the application which will be glueing all
> these
> > libraries together to decide on where to and how to bind all these
> logging
> > APIs. As a matter of fact, many modern application frameworks provide
> > goodies to save you from that burden; consider
> `spring-boot-starter-log4j2`.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 12:01 AM Usha Nayak  wrote:
> >
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> As a library owner, if I were to use the log4j2 API and the application
> >> that uses my library has a java.util.logging ( JUL ) framework.
> >>
> >> What adapter or routing jars will be needed at runtime by application
> such
> >> that all the logs, both from the library and the application, end up
> using
> >> the same logging framework implementation (JUL) ?
> >>
> >> Any help greatly appreciated
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
>
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Re: log4j2 API and JUL logging framework

2023-01-24 Thread Usha Nayak
Thank you all for your response.

I did look through the documentation.  However, the impression I got from
the 'Using log4j2 with JUL' section was that log4j2 is used as a logging
framework (application uses JUL lib and with 'log4j-jul' bridge connects to
log4j2 logging framework) . In my case, it's an opposite requirement.

I did come across below though in FAQ section:

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which makes me think that an application ( who are consumers of my lib,
which is based of log4j2 API ) will need log4j-to-slf4j-2.x.jar,
slf4j-api.jar,slf4j-jdk14.jar (jul binding for slf4j delegating all slf4j
calls to be  JUL )

On the other hand, if my lib were to be based of slf4j API, then the
applications (consumers of my lib ) will only need slf4j-jdk14.jar

My understanding is a library should be based on only an api jar and
nothing else and it's an application that'll provide the bindings. With the
log4j2 API, there are quite a few bindings that applications will need to
be aware of. Am I missing something?

Thanks. Regards






On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 7:31 PM Gary Gregory  wrote:

> How about https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/api-separation.html
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 18:31 Matt Sicker  wrote:
>
> > That’s the log4j-to-jul module. I can’t find a link on the site, but
> > here’s the module overview page:
> > https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/log4j-to-jul/index.html
> >
> > > On Jan 24, 2023, at 5:01 PM, Usha Nayak  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > As a library owner, if I were to use the log4j2 API and the application
> > > that uses my library has a java.util.logging ( JUL ) framework.
> > >
> > > What adapter or routing jars will be needed at runtime by application
> > such
> > > that all the logs, both from the library and the application, end up
> > using
> > > the same logging framework implementation (JUL) ?
> > >
> > > Any help greatly appreciated
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> >
>


log4j2 API and JUL logging framework

2023-01-24 Thread Usha Nayak
Hello All,

As a library owner, if I were to use the log4j2 API and the application
that uses my library has a java.util.logging ( JUL ) framework.

What adapter or routing jars will be needed at runtime by application such
that all the logs, both from the library and the application, end up using
the same logging framework implementation (JUL) ?

Any help greatly appreciated

Thanks