Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
Mi to zatowa e linux :))) (vizh quote-a po dolu ;) ) Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: , :)) : http://www.linux.org.ru/view-message.jsp?msgid=487734 , ;-) . A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html -- Alexander PopovProSyst Bulgaria Inc. RTOS Leader48 Vladajska Str. RTOS and JVM Dept. Sofia 1606, Bulgaria Phone: +359 2 952 3581/204http://www.prosyst.com Mobile: +359 887 663 193 OSGi Technology Leaders -- The wonderful thing about Linux is that there is always at least one more undiscovered way to do almost anything. Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (comp.os.linux.embedded) -- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
Chestno kazano twyrde mnogo se symniawam che se zanuliawa cialoto prostranstwo na fajla pri delete, naj-malkoto shte e twyrde bawno. Imaj predwid, che pri takyw scenarij pri iztriwane na file ~600MB, towa na praktika shte wodi do zapis na ~600MB na diska, koeto e absurd. Oswen towa ne zabrawiaj che mozhesh da si ja montirash kato ext2, rabotish si s neja s toolowete /syshtoto towa rm/ s koito rabotish i sys ext2, Naistina si mislia che w sluchaja podozrenijata ti ne sa osnowatelni. Plamen Tonev wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:57:43 + Elin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10x za savetite filovata sistema e na ext3, s rm pochti nesam prail greshkata da istria pogreshen fil no pozvam mno mc to i mesto F10 natiskam F8 i doakto se osetia sam dal YES ext3 ne mojesh da undelete-nesh. Uj razlikata s ext2 e samo journal-a, ama ne e taka...rm zanuljava failovete i njama kak da gi vyrnesh. Za ext2 pyk si ima razlichni toolove, koito vyrshat edna i syshta rabota. Btw ne polzvam mc no mislja che daje toi si imashe undelete za ext2. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: Doncho Angelov wrote: Elin wrote: hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux tar -zxf ,.tgz . - ! ext2 ext3 , , , , rm rm $PATH. :) Towa e dobra ideq. Kato che li she e naj chistiq i byrz wariant. Kato mi ostane malko wreme mozhe da si poigraq da go naprawq . A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html -- Alexander PopovProSyst Bulgaria Inc. RTOS Leader48 Vladajska Str. RTOS and JVM Dept. Sofia 1606, Bulgaria Phone: +359 2 952 3581/204http://www.prosyst.com Mobile: +359 887 663 193 OSGi Technology Leaders -- The wonderful thing about Linux is that there is always at least one more undiscovered way to do almost anything. Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (comp.os.linux.embedded) -- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
mislq che e se taq dali she gi razkarash s mc ili na ryka maj nqma da stane nomera s undelet-waneto Elin wrote: 10x za savetite filovata sistema e na ext3, s rm pochti nesam prail greshkata da istria pogreshen fil no pozvam mno mc to i mesto F10 natiskam F8 i doakto se osetia sam dal YES Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: Doncho Angelov wrote: Elin wrote: hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux tar -zxf ,.tgz . - ! ext2 ext3 , , , , rm rm $PATH. :) . A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html -- Alexander PopovProSyst Bulgaria Inc. RTOS Leader48 Vladajska Str. RTOS and JVM Dept. Sofia 1606, Bulgaria Phone: +359 2 952 3581/204http://www.prosyst.com Mobile: +359 887 663 193 OSGi Technology Leaders -- The wonderful thing about Linux is that there is always at least one more undiscovered way to do almost anything. Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (comp.os.linux.embedded) -- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 17:29, Elin wrote: hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux Ima proekt libtrash - http://freshmeat.net/projects/libtrash/ Mislq imashe pone oshte edno podobno reshenie, no towa weche e stable :) Za razlika ot funktziqta na mc (Midnight Commander) za undelete na ext2/ext3, towa ne e swyrzano izobshto s tipa na failowata sistema. Midnight Commander ima tazi funktziq ot mnogo wreme, no po podrazbirane ne e wkliuchena. Ot sobstwen opit, wyzstanovwqwaneto e tolkowa neweroqtno che ne si struwa opitite ako po diska e zapisan/dopylnen dori edin fail... -- Regards, Doncho N. Gunchev GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/DA454F79 Key fingerprint = 684F 688B C508 C609 0371 5E0F A089 CB15 DA45 4F79 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
LKM-HOWTO- :) Alexander Popov wrote: Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: Doncho Angelov wrote: Elin wrote: hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux tar -zxf ,.tgz . - ! ext2 ext3 , , , , rm rm $PATH. :) Towa e dobra ideq. Kato che li she e naj chistiq i byrz wariant. Kato mi ostane malko wreme mozhe da si poigraq da go naprawq . A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
On Thursday 12 February 2004 10:42, Minko Markov wrote: --- Plamen Tonev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext3 ne mojesh da undelete-nesh. Uj razlikata s ext2 e samo journal-a, ama ne e taka...rm zanuljava failovete Kakvo znachi zanulyava, prezapisva sektorite s nuli? Tova ne e verno, ponezhe mozhe da ima nyakolko hard linka kqm fayla i togava rm prosto maha edin ot linkovete. syglasen. stoto ext3 v vsy4kite si tri rejima vinagi goni da sync-va data-ta v main fs-a, osven v journal file-a. Pone az ne vijdam kak moje da se hvane ex3 kernel driver-a v mode=ordered (default) v systoqnie kogato sled rm da e ostanalo nesto ot iztritiq file. Ako ima samo edin hard link, *mislya*, che rm pak ne trie samite sektori na sqdqrzhanieto, a gi markira kato svobodni. Az sqm na ext3fs i iztrivane na film ot 700MB stava prakticheski momentalno, s minimalna aktivnost na diska. Ako go prezapisvashe s nuli, shteshe da e dosta po-dqlgo -- sqdya po tova, kolko otnema da se napravi cp ili mv na takqv file i kolko shumi diska pri tova. rm e easy otkym IO activity stoto prosto v inode-to na file-a (dori i golqm da e toj) se vpisva 4e nqma nisto ot edi koj si do edi koj si secror. Kogato se creat-va nov file s cp togava se pishat i samite data. Tova bez zna4enie journal fs-a i v kyf rejim raboti. Komandata mv systo e easy kogato e v ramkite na edin fs, zastoto togava file data-ta ne se pipat vyobste a pak se pipa v inodes na stariq i noviq file, kato se ukazva 4e ve4e noviq file e v edi koj si sectors, moje da e v nqkolko takiva par4eta ot-do kato sectors. PSTezi dni vidyah diskusiya na kernel mail lista za ext2 i eventualno recovery na informaciya sled rm (samo che celta tam e tochno obratnata, da se napravi info-to nedostqpno sled rm) http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10753084953r=2w=1 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10753084953r=1w=1 wipe -- A UNIX tool for secure deletion http://abaababa.ouvaton.org/wipe/ (bez zna4enie filesystem-a) rabotata na tozi util moje da se integrira v samite filesystem drivers v kernel-a i v /proc da ima promeliva s koqto da se aktivira ili deaktivira, stoto ako e samo aktiviran ste vi pisne da 4akate da se pishat nuli otgore vyrhu iztritite sectors ;-) -- pub 4096R/0E4BD0AB 2003-03-18 keyserver.bu.edu ; pgp.mit.edu fingerprint 1AE7 7C66 0A26 5BFF DF22 5D55 1C57 0C89 0E4B D0AB A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
--- George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 February 2004 10:42, Minko Markov wrote: --- Plamen Tonev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext3 ne mojesh da undelete-nesh. Uj razlikata s ext2 e samo journal-a, ama ne e taka...rm zanuljava failovete Kakvo znachi zanulyava, prezapisva sektorite s nuli? Tova ne e verno, ponezhe mozhe da ima nyakolko hard linka kqm fayla i togava rm prosto maha edin ot linkovete. syglasen. stoto ext3 v vsy4kite si tri rejima vinagi goni da sync-va data-ta v main fs-a, osven v journal file-a. Ne stava duma za ext3. Priznavam, che ne ya znam, no tova, koeto kazvah, vazhi za vsyakakva UNIX instalaciya bez ogled na faylovata sistema. Ako napravish cat A ... neshto si ... ^D ln A B rm -f A to B prodqlzhava da sqshtestvuva i B sqdqrzha tochno tova, koeto e imalo v A. A i B sa ravnostoyni pointer-i kqm edno i sqshto neshto i rm -f A iztriva samo pointera narechen A bez da pipa sqdqrzhanieto, kamo li da go nulira. Za tova govoreh. rm e easy otkym IO activity stoto prosto v inode-to na file-a (dori i golqm da e toj) se vpisva 4e nqma nisto ot edi koj si do edi koj si secror. Ami znachi sqm prav, che ne go nulira. A propos, zashto v inode-a na file-a? Iskash da kazhesh, v inode-a na dir-a? Nali rm -f A iztriva inode-a, pri polozhenie, che A e edinstveniyat hard link kqm tozi file? Komandata mv systo e easy kogato e v ramkite na edin fs, zastoto togava file data-ta ne se pipat vyobste Da. Imah predvid mv ot edin partition v drug. -- MM __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
Principno e taka i na praktika e wiarno, no w opredeleni uslowija lichno sym izwazhdal na dwa pyti ot ext2 fajlowe :)) wiarno ne 100%, no ne po-malko ot 85% :))) i se kasae za ne golemi fajlecheta w kolichestwa ot poriadyka na ~800-900MB, mda dosta tegawa rabota e no stawa makar che pak powtariam bez hubawo howto i docs za ext2 niama smisyl da se pochwa Ot sobstwen opit, wyzstanovwqwaneto e tolkowa neweroqtno che ne si struwa opitite ako po diska e zapisan/dopylnen dori edin fail... A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
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Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
Elin wrote: hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux tar -zxf ,.tgz . - ! -- Doncho A. Angelov software developer/project manager OBS BG Ltd. @ http://www.obs.bg Work: +359 (2) 9715900, Mobile: +359 (98) 485167 * PGP Key ID: 6F124BED at keyserver.bu.edu* * or http://donangel.h1.ru/personal.html * Free Software Association - Bulgaria (http://www.fsa-bg.org) member -- This email has been sent with Open Source-d Mozilla Thunderbird. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
za kakyw filesystem? Elin wrote: hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html -- Alexander PopovProSyst Bulgaria Inc. RTOS Leader48 Vladajska Str. RTOS and JVM Dept. Sofia 1606, Bulgaria Phone: +359 2 952 3581/204http://www.prosyst.com Mobile: +359 887 663 193 OSGi Technology Leaders -- The wonderful thing about Linux is that there is always at least one more undiscovered way to do almost anything. Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (comp.os.linux.embedded) -- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
Doncho Angelov wrote: Elin wrote: hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux tar -zxf ,.tgz . - ! ext2 ext3 , , , , rm rm $PATH. :) . A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
10x za savetite filovata sistema e na ext3, s rm pochti nesam prail greshkata da istria pogreshen fil no pozvam mno mc to i mesto F10 natiskam F8 i doakto se osetia sam dal YES Tsvetin Vasilev wrote: Doncho Angelov wrote: Elin wrote: hi niako znaeli tools analogicen na unerase ili undelelet pod linux tar -zxf ,.tgz . - ! ext2 ext3 , , , , rm rm $PATH. :) . A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
http://freshmeat.net/projects/recover/ tova sam go polzval za ext2 predi 2 godini i mi svarshi chudesna rabota On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 10:57, Elin wrote: 10x za savetite filovata sistema e na ext3, s rm pochti nesam prail greshkata da istria pogreshen fil no pozvam mno mc to i mesto F10 natiskam F8 i doakto se osetia sam dal YES -- Nikolay Hristov Stemo Ltd. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:57:43 + Elin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10x za savetite filovata sistema e na ext3, s rm pochti nesam prail greshkata da istria pogreshen fil no pozvam mno mc to i mesto F10 natiskam F8 i doakto se osetia sam dal YES ext3 ne mojesh da undelete-nesh. Uj razlikata s ext2 e samo journal-a, ama ne e taka...rm zanuljava failovete i njama kak da gi vyrnesh. Za ext2 pyk si ima razlichni toolove, koito vyrshat edna i syshta rabota. Btw ne polzvam mc no mislja che daje toi si imashe undelete za ext2. -- The evil that men do lives after them; the good that men do is often interred with their bones. --Shakespeare, Julius Caesar. --- Public PGP key at: http://pgp.mit.edu pub 1024D/98D3363F 2003/08/16 Plamen Tonev (MiCRoPhoBIC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 5D08 C610 0F09 618E 3515 5C87 0F62 3808 98D3 363F --- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lug-bg: undelete unerase za linux
Plamen Tonev wrote: ext3 ne mojesh da undelete-nesh. Uj razlikata s ext2 e samo journal-a, ama ne e taka...rm zanuljava failovete i njama kak da gi vyrnesh. Za ext2 pyk si ima razlichni toolove, koito vyrshat edna i syshta rabota. Btw ne polzvam mc no mislja che daje toi si imashe undelete za ext2. Mdam, mc pozvolqva da vuzstanovqvash iztriti failove, no _samo_ na ext2 -- The Power to Serve! Kliment Ognianov a.k.a. Pat BusH ____ __ Network Administrator Developer / ___/__ ___ / _ )/ __/ _ \ Bulinfo Ltd. / __// __/ -_) -_) _ |\ \/ // / phone: +(359 2) 9699 165/_/ /_/ \__/\__//___// fax: +(359 2) 9699 140 11A Carnegie Street, 1000 Sofia, Bulgaria -- PGPKey 4C5D BA4F 87F5 70D1 EAC3 190D 86FE 78CD 4C9C B27D pgp.mit.edu -- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
