[LUTE] Re: Privacy

2016-08-11 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Danny 
Thank you for the advice which is very helpful
However I think we have rather lost the plot here.
Originally one person sent an simple message to the list drawing 
attention to some work he had posted on line which other people have 
said in the past they found useful.
Someone else on the list sent him an unsolicited message privately 
commenting on his work in an rather offensive manner.  Not surprisingly 
the recipient was very upset and raised the matter briefly on the list.
All that I tried to say initially was that I don't think that we should 
take advantage of the fact that we can contact people off the list to 
send other members messages which may upset them.  There seemed to me 
to be no justification in this instance to do so
Maybe we can let the matter rest now.
Monica 

Original Message
From: rowlho...@gmail.com
Date: 11/08/2016 9:57 
To: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk"<mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Subj: Re: [LUTE] Re: Privacy

Monica,

I'm mostly a "lurker" on the lute list, but would like to point out one
thing, because it might help you avoid an awkward situation one day:

If I send someone a private email, then the contents of my email are
protected under copyright (prior to 1989 US copyright law required a 
notice
to be included, but that's not the case now). Therefore their rights to
copy my private email to a 3rd party, let alone the public domain, are
extremely limited.

That's the case for not just any pictures/art/music/audio etc that I 
send,
but the actual words too.

So in the case of this email, you would have the right to write to the 
list
and say "Danny wrote to me and told me X", but you wouldn't actually 
have
the right to include my email verbatim - unless I gave you explicit
permission (which I do, but I suggest that the list is tired of the 
subject
now!).

All the best - Danny

On 11 August 2016 at 09:42, mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk <mjlh...@tiscali.co.
uk>
wrote:

> Well - I don't agree and I reserve the right to ignore messages sent 
to
> me off list or to reply to them on the list if I am so minded.
> Monica
>
>
>
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[LUTE] Re: Privacy

2016-08-11 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
Well - I don't agree and I reserve the right to ignore messages sent to 
me off list or to reply to them on the list if I am so minded.
Monica



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[LUTE] Re: Privacy

2016-08-10 Thread Alfred J Padilla MD

Actually, the one-on-one option is a potentially good thing.

If there's a disagreement, it may be best handled in a more private 
conversation, rather than sharing with the whole list.  I think that 
even on the internet, one on one interactions tend to be more civil than 
yelling to the crowd.


And one always has the option of blocking a specific sender on one's 
email server.


Al


On 8/10/2016 5:56 PM, G. C. wrote:

You wrote:
"Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a
one-
to-one correspondence with you?"
I believe it does Monica :)
Regards
G.
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:31 PM, [1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
<[2]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

  I think that what I was trying to say has been misconstrued - as is
  often the case with these arguments.
  If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can only contact
  you directly if you accept them as friends.
  This list is different.   Anyone can join, there is no moderator,
  nobody
  decides who may join.   That means that everyone on the list has
  access
  to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be abused.
  As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had posted
  details
  of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has anything
  helpful to say that might help Anton   to make his work even more
  useful
  than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very useful and
  are
  grateful to him for posting the details - then why not say it here.
  We
  have discussed this before.
  Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a
  one-
  to-one correspondence with you?
  Better leave it at that as this will probably be misconstrued too.
  Monica
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References

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2. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html







[LUTE] Re: Privacy

2016-08-10 Thread G. C.
   You wrote:
   "Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a
   one-
   to-one correspondence with you?"
   I believe it does Monica :)
   Regards
   G.
   On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:31 PM, [1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
   <[2]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

 I think that what I was trying to say has been misconstrued - as is
 often the case with these arguments.
 If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can only contact
 you directly if you accept them as friends.
 This list is different.   Anyone can join, there is no moderator,
 nobody
 decides who may join.   That means that everyone on the list has
 access
 to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be abused.
 As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had posted
 details
 of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has anything
 helpful to say that might help Anton   to make his work even more
 useful
 than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very useful and
 are
 grateful to him for posting the details - then why not say it here.
 We
 have discussed this before.
 Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a
 one-
 to-one correspondence with you?
 Better leave it at that as this will probably be misconstrued too.
 Monica
 To get on or off this list see list information at
 [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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References

   1. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
   2. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
   3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html