[LUTE] Re: Soap & Talc, quick question

[John Mardinly]

   There is this stuff called "Peg Drops Liquid Peg Compound at:

   [1]http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute-Accessories/Peg-Drops-Liquid-Pe
   g-Compound

   although they do say they are out of stock at the moment.

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   [10]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704

   On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:52 AM, andy butler <[11]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk>
   wrote:

   Many thanks for all responses.
   Baby powder with a bit of soap seems to be doing the trick,
   will vary the proportions as needed.
   kind regards
   andy
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[LUTE] Re: Soap & Talc, quick question

[John Mardinly]

   Smart.

   A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
   Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer
   EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu
   Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs)
   Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651
   NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652
   JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653
   2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654
   Office: [7]480-965-7946
   John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS
   B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building
   Arizona State University
   [8]PO Box 871704
   [9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704

   On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:19 AM, David Tayler <[10]vidan...@sbcglobal.net>
   wrote:

 I don't use talc or related products because of the asbestos.
 Isn't that a cheery thought?
 d
   __
 From: andy butler <[11]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk>
 To: [12]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:11 AM
 Subject: [LUTE] Soap & Talc, quick question
 I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that
   applying
 a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
 So, is that a 50/50 mix?
 Should I add any water?
 any tips gratefully received
 kind regards
 andy
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[LUTE] Re: Soap & Talc, quick question

[David Tayler]

   I don't use talc or related products because of the asbestos.
   Isn't that a cheery thought?
   d
 __

   From: andy butler 
   To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:11 AM
   Subject: [LUTE] Soap & Talc, quick question
   I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that applying
   a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
   So, is that a 50/50 mix?
   Should I add any water?
   any tips gratefully received
   kind regards
   andy
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Ron Andrico]

   He must string his lute according to the principles of quantum field
   theory.  Since this topic relates to string theory, has anyone tried
   strings from [1]Pure Corde?  I'll also mention that I'm appreciating my
   custom wound silk basses from Alexander Rakov.  They sound much better
   and fret truer than any gut basses I've ever used.
   RA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 04:37:36 +
To: dwinh...@lmi.net
CC: mokot...@gmail.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: john.mardi...@asu.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question
   
60,000 turns in 5 years? How often do you change your strings? That
   is
32.8 turns per day, 365 days a year.
   
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer
EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu
Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs)
Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651
NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652
JEOL ARM 200 Lab: [5]480-727-5653
2010F Lab: [6]480-727-5654
Office: [7]480-965-7946
John Cowley Center for HREM, LE-CSSS
B134B Bateman Physical Sciences Building
Arizona State University
[8]PO Box 871704
[9]Tempe, AZ 85287-1704
   
On Aug 13, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Dan Winheld [10]dwinh...@lmi.net
   wrote:
   
Laugh now; in 5 years you will need to hire a professional mechanic
   to
inject a mixture of high-temp. Macadamia Nut Oil and ambergris to
prevent micro-clutch seizure. Also a mandatory timing belt change for
EACH PegHed after 60,000 turns- ain't cheap!
On 8/13/2015 9:19 AM, Charles Mokotoff wrote:
   
I am so enjoying ignoring this thread...says the lutenist with
PegHeds ;)
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Martin Shepherd
[1][11]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
Hill's is good, but it's dark brown, so for light-coloured pegs
(e.g. lemonwood) I find I want to use something else. Dry
soap and
talc seems OK. Chalk can be gritty and may wear out your pegs
and/or
peg holes.
I actually put quite a lot of peg paste on my pegs in the
process of
fitting them - it gets compacted into the pegbox and provides a
really good basis for a smooth action. Wood-against-wood is
not
good.
If anyone knows of a good recipe for a pale/transparent version
of
Hill's, please let us know.
Martin
   
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[David van Ooijen]

   I use talk only. Baby powder.

   David
   On Thursday, August 13, 2015, andy butler [1]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
   wrote:

 I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that
 applying
 a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
 So, is that a 50/50 mix?
 Should I add any water?
 any tips gratefully received
 kind regards
 andy
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[David van Ooijen]

   Love that typo. ;-)

   David
   On Thursday, August 13, 2015, David van Ooijen
   [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:

I use talk only. Baby powder.
David
On Thursday, August 13, 2015, andy butler
 [1][2]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
wrote:
  I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that
  applying
  a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
  So, is that a 50/50 mix?
  Should I add any water?
  any tips gratefully received
  kind regards
  andy
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Daniel F. Heiman]

There are various commercially-available remedies as well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuning_peg#Peg_dope

Whatever you use, apply it sparingly, and realize that you may have to
remove some or all of it if the application does not improve the situation.

Daniel

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Of David van Ooijen
Sent: 13 August, 2015 06:02
To: lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question

   Love that typo. ;-)

   David
   On Thursday, August 13, 2015, David van Ooijen
   [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:

I use talk only. Baby powder.
David
On Thursday, August 13, 2015, andy butler
 [1][2]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
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  I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that
  applying
  a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
  So, is that a 50/50 mix?
  Should I add any water?
  any tips gratefully received
  kind regards
  andy
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Eric Hansen]

   I recall from an LSA seminar many years ago Lyle Nordstrum addressed
   this question. He said that the historical remedy was a mixture of soap
   and ashes (talc is a cleaner modern substitute). Proportions of the
   ingredients were determined by the behaviour of the pegs: if the pegs
   stuck, use more soap and less ashes; if the pegs slipped, use more
   ashes and less soap. This could apply to the soap and talc mixture as
   well, I think. At the end of the day, nothing beats pegs that fit their
   holes well, imho.
   Good luck,
   Eric

   On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Daniel F. Heiman
   [1]heiman.dan...@juno.com wrote:

 There are various commercially-available remedies as well:
 [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuning_peg#Peg_dope
 Whatever you use, apply it sparingly, and realize that you may have
 to
 remove some or all of it if the application does not improve the
 situation.
 Daniel
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 [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
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 Sent: 13 August, 2015 06:02
 To: lutelist Net
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question
Love that typo. ;-)
David
On Thursday, August 13, 2015, David van Ooijen
[1][5]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use talk only. Baby powder.
 David
 On Thursday, August 13, 2015, andy butler
  [1][2][6]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:
   I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand
 that
   applying
   a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
   So, is that a 50/50 mix?
   Should I add any water?
   any tips gratefully received
   kind regards
   andy
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[theoj89294]

   I learned many years ago about soap and chalk for pegs (I would think
   chalk would have more 'bite' than talk) - and i keep a small remnant of
   a piece of chalkboard chalk, and a small remnant of a bar of soap
   conveniently hidden in a corner of all my lute cases (with a small
   remnant of a pencil to apply graphite to the nut grooves if needed).
   trj

   -Original Message-
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   To: 'David van Ooijen' davidvanooi...@gmail.com; 'lutelist Net'
   Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; akbutler akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
   Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2015 9:31 am
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question
There are various commercially-available remedies as
well:
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuning_peg#Peg_dope

Whatever you use,
apply it sparingly, and realize that you may have to
remove some or all of it
if the application does not improve the situation.

Daniel

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On Behalf
Of David van Ooijen
Sent: 13 August, 2015 06:02
To: lutelist
Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question

   Love that typo.
;-)

   David
   On Thursday, August 13, 2015, David van Ooijen

[1][4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:

I use talk only. Baby powder.

David
On Thursday, August 13, 2015, andy butler

[1][2][5]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
wrote:
  I'm about to change
strings on my lute, and I understand that
  applying
  a
soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
  So, is that a 50/50
mix?
  Should I add any water?
  any tips gratefully
received
  kind regards
  andy
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[andy butler]

Many thanks for all responses.

Baby powder with a bit of soap seems to be doing the trick,
will vary the proportions as needed.



kind regards
andy  





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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Matthew Daillie]

I find that good quality peg paste (such as Hills) is far more reliable over 
time. Soap and chalk can become rather an unpleasant grunge after a while 
(often sooner than later).
A sparing amount of peg paste once a year or so is generally enough to keep 
everything turning over smoothly.
Best
Matthew





 On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:11, andy butler akbut...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that applying
 a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
 
 So, is that a 50/50 mix?
 
 Should I add any water?
 
 any tips gratefully received
 
 kind regards
 andy
 
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Dan Winheld]

Laugh now; in 5 years you will need to hire a professional mechanic to 
inject a mixture of high-temp. Macadamia Nut Oil and ambergris to 
prevent micro-clutch seizure. Also a mandatory timing belt change for 
EACH PegHed after 60,000 turns- ain't cheap!


On 8/13/2015 9:19 AM, Charles Mokotoff wrote:

I am so enjoying ignoring this thread...says the lutenist with
PegHeds ;)

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Martin Shepherd
[1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:

  Hill's is good, but it's dark brown, so for light-coloured pegs
  (e.g. lemonwood) I find I want to use something else.   Dry soap and
  talc seems OK. Chalk can be gritty and may wear out your pegs and/or
  peg holes.
  I actually put quite a lot of peg paste on my pegs in the process of
  fitting them - it gets compacted into the pegbox and provides a
  really good basis for a smooth action.   Wood-against-wood is not
  good.
  If anyone knows of a good recipe for a pale/transparent version of
  Hill's, please let us know.
  Martin





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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Charles Mokotoff]

   Dan...you may well be right!

   On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Dan Winheld [1]dwinh...@lmi.net
   wrote:

   Laugh now; in 5 years you will need to hire a professional mechanic to
   inject a mixture of high-temp. Macadamia Nut Oil and ambergris to
   prevent micro-clutch seizure. Also a mandatory timing belt change for
   EACH PegHed after 60,000 turns- ain't cheap!
   On 8/13/2015 9:19 AM, Charles Mokotoff wrote:

 I am so enjoying ignoring this thread...says the lutenist with
 PegHeds ;)
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Martin Shepherd
 [1][2]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
   Hill's is good, but it's dark brown, so for light-coloured
 pegs
   (e.g. lemonwood) I find I want to use something else.Dry
 soap and
   talc seems OK. Chalk can be gritty and may wear out your pegs
 and/or
   peg holes.
   I actually put quite a lot of peg paste on my pegs in the
 process of
   fitting them - it gets compacted into the pegbox and provides
 a
   really good basis for a smooth action.Wood-against-wood is
 not
   good.
   If anyone knows of a good recipe for a pale/transparent
 version of
   Hill's, please let us know.
   Martin

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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Matthew Daillie]

I find that it's quite straightforward to restrict the application of the paste 
to just the part of the peg shaft that is in the hole and so the darkening 
effect is not really noticeable. Admittedly I'm referring to plum pegs which 
are definitely not as light-coloured as the lemonwood ones you use Martin.
Best,
Matthew



 On Aug 13, 2015, at 17:10, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hill's is good, but it's dark brown, so for light-coloured pegs (e.g. 
 lemonwood) I find I want to use something else.  Dry soap and talc seems OK. 
 Chalk can be gritty and may wear out your pegs and/or peg holes.
 
 I actually put quite a lot of peg paste on my pegs in the process of fitting 
 them - it gets compacted into the pegbox and provides a really good basis for 
 a smooth action.  Wood-against-wood is not good.
 
 If anyone knows of a good recipe for a pale/transparent version of Hill's, 
 please let us know.
 
 Martin
 
 - Original Message - From: Matthew Daillie 
 dail...@club-internet.fr
 To: andy butler akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
 Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:59 PM
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question
 
 
 I find that good quality peg paste (such as Hills) is far more reliable over 
 time. Soap and chalk can become rather an unpleasant grunge after a while 
 (often sooner than later).
 A sparing amount of peg paste once a year or so is generally enough to keep 
 everything turning over smoothly.
 Best
 Matthew
 
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:11, andy butler akbut...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that applying
 a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
 
 So, is that a 50/50 mix?
 
 Should I add any water?
 
 any tips gratefully received
 
 kind regards
 andy
 
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[John Mardinly]

   60,000 turns in 5 years? How often do you change your strings? That is
   32.8 turns per day, 365 days a year.

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   Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer
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   On Aug 13, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Dan Winheld [10]dwinh...@lmi.net wrote:

   Laugh now; in 5 years you will need to hire a professional mechanic to
   inject a mixture of high-temp. Macadamia Nut Oil and ambergris to
   prevent micro-clutch seizure. Also a mandatory timing belt change for
   EACH PegHed after 60,000 turns- ain't cheap!
   On 8/13/2015 9:19 AM, Charles Mokotoff wrote:

I am so enjoying ignoring this thread...says the lutenist with
PegHeds ;)
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Martin Shepherd
[1][11]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
  Hill's is good, but it's dark brown, so for light-coloured pegs
  (e.g. lemonwood) I find I want to use something else.   Dry
 soap and
  talc seems OK. Chalk can be gritty and may wear out your pegs
 and/or
  peg holes.
  I actually put quite a lot of peg paste on my pegs in the
 process of
  fitting them - it gets compacted into the pegbox and provides a
  really good basis for a smooth action.   Wood-against-wood is
 not
  good.
  If anyone knows of a good recipe for a pale/transparent version
 of
  Hill's, please let us know.
  Martin

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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Martin Shepherd]

Hill's is good, but it's dark brown, so for light-coloured pegs (e.g. 
lemonwood) I find I want to use something else.  Dry soap and talc seems OK. 
Chalk can be gritty and may wear out your pegs and/or peg holes.


I actually put quite a lot of peg paste on my pegs in the process of fitting 
them - it gets compacted into the pegbox and provides a really good basis 
for a smooth action.  Wood-against-wood is not good.


If anyone knows of a good recipe for a pale/transparent version of Hill's, 
please let us know.


Martin

- Original Message - 
From: Matthew Daillie dail...@club-internet.fr

To: andy butler akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:59 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question


I find that good quality peg paste (such as Hills) is far more reliable 
over time. Soap and chalk can become rather an unpleasant grunge after a 
while (often sooner than later).
A sparing amount of peg paste once a year or so is generally enough to 
keep everything turning over smoothly.

Best
Matthew






On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:11, andy butler akbut...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:


I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that applying
a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.

So, is that a 50/50 mix?

Should I add any water?

any tips gratefully received

kind regards
andy




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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Charles Mokotoff]

   I am so enjoying ignoring this thread...says the lutenist with
   PegHeds ;)

   On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Martin Shepherd
   [1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:

 Hill's is good, but it's dark brown, so for light-coloured pegs
 (e.g. lemonwood) I find I want to use something else.   Dry soap and
 talc seems OK. Chalk can be gritty and may wear out your pegs and/or
 peg holes.
 I actually put quite a lot of peg paste on my pegs in the process of
 fitting them - it gets compacted into the pegbox and provides a
 really good basis for a smooth action.   Wood-against-wood is not
 good.
 If anyone knows of a good recipe for a pale/transparent version of
 Hill's, please let us know.
 Martin
 - Original Message - From: Matthew Daillie
 [2]dail...@club-internet.fr
 To: andy butler [3]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
 Cc: [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:59 PM
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question

 I find that good quality peg paste (such as Hills) is far more
 reliable over time. Soap and chalk can become rather an unpleasant
 grunge after a while (often sooner than later).
 A sparing amount of peg paste once a year or so is generally enough
 to keep everything turning over smoothly.
 Best
 Matthew

 On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:11, andy butler [5]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:
 I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that
 applying
 a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
 So, is that a 50/50 mix?
 Should I add any water?
 any tips gratefully received
 kind regards
 andy
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