Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 4/20/24 08:59, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Freitag, dem 19.04.2024 um 17:24 +0200 schrieb jspi...@gmail.com:

Am Freitag, dem 19.04.2024 um 17:11 +0200 schrieb jspi...@gmail.com:

I am currently traveling, so I cannot test. But does the attached
patch help and provide a sufficient clues?

Take this. The first one didn't link.

I had a closer look and committed a better solution to master
(b8ff824a4f4ab4). This one checks for possible causes of the invalid
packages.lst format and tries to solve it, informing the user about
what has been done.

Riki, although this introduces some new strings, I would advise to put
this to 2.4.0. This is something that could bite users on upgrade, and
it makes LyX unusable and is pretty hard to diagnose on your own. So an
untranslated warning here is probably better that no warning at all.


OK.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Stephan Witt]

Am 20.04.2024 um 14:59 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller :
> 
> Am Freitag, dem 19.04.2024 um 17:24 +0200 schrieb jspi...@gmail.com:
>> Am Freitag, dem 19.04.2024 um 17:11 +0200 schrieb jspi...@gmail.com:
>>> I am currently traveling, so I cannot test. But does the attached
>>> patch help and provide a sufficient clues?
>> 
>> Take this. The first one didn't link.
> 
> I had a closer look and committed a better solution to master
> (b8ff824a4f4ab4). This one checks for possible causes of the invalid
> packages.lst format and tries to solve it, informing the user about
> what has been done.

Looks good.

> Riki, although this introduces some new strings, I would advise to put
> this to 2.4.0. This is something that could bite users on upgrade, and
> it makes LyX unusable and is pretty hard to diagnose on your own. So an
> untranslated warning here is probably better that no warning at all.

Yes. +1.

Stephan

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, dem 19.04.2024 um 17:24 +0200 schrieb jspi...@gmail.com:
> Am Freitag, dem 19.04.2024 um 17:11 +0200 schrieb jspi...@gmail.com:
> > I am currently traveling, so I cannot test. But does the attached
> > patch help and provide a sufficient clues?
> 
> Take this. The first one didn't link.

I had a closer look and committed a better solution to master
(b8ff824a4f4ab4). This one checks for possible causes of the invalid
packages.lst format and tries to solve it, informing the user about
what has been done.

Riki, although this introduces some new strings, I would advise to put
this to 2.4.0. This is something that could bite users on upgrade, and
it makes LyX unusable and is pretty hard to diagnose on your own. So an
untranslated warning here is probably better that no warning at all.

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Re: Lyx 2.4.0 RC3 SVN Crash MAC OSX.

[Pavel Sanda]

Stephan,

were you able to reproduce that crash at the end?

Pavel

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:45:58AM +1100, Robert Betz wrote:
> Stephan,
> 
> I have attached a Lyx file and associated template and layout files. This is
> a much smaller example. After experimenting, it seems to fail sometimes, and
> not others. One can make a seeminglyinnocuous change and it will ether fail
> consistently on SVN update, or it will work consistently.
> 
> Hope these files help track done the issue.
> 
> Thanks.
> -- 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert Betz
> E: robertbe...@gmail.com
> M: 0419249948
> 
> 
> Stephan Witt wrote on 19/2/2024 5:36???pm:
> >Am 19.02.2024 um 05:17 schrieb Robert Betz :
> >>I am currently using Lyx 2.4.0 RC3 on MAC OSX V14.2.1 (Sonoma) and if I try 
> >>and check in a Lyx document to an SVN repository Lyx crashes. Using the 
> >>same SVN version under Lyx V2.3.7 is OK.
> >>
> >>The Lyx crash log is:
> >>
> >>(  1) 1   lyx 0x0001028e85c3 
> >>_ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert7doErrorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
> >> : 1   lyx 0x0001028e85c3 
> >>_ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert7doErrorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
> >> + 199
> >>(  2) 2   lyx 0x0001028e893c 
> >>_ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert5errorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
> >> : 2   lyx 0x0001028e893c 
> >>_ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert5errorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
> >> + 139
> >>(  3) 3   lyx 0x0001025edeff 
> >>_ZN3lyxL13error_handlerEi : 3   lyx 
> >>0x0001025edeff _ZN3lyxL13error_handlerEi + 350
> >>(  4) 4   libsystem_platform.dylib0x7ff8065d237d _sigtramp 
> >>: 4   libsystem_platform.dylib0x7ff8065d237d _sigtramp + 29
> >>(  5) 5   ??? 0x7ff7bda4486e 0x0 : 5   
> >>??? 0x7ff7bda4486e 0x0 + 140702015309934
> >>(  6) 6   lyx 0x000102717774 
> >>_ZNK3lyx13InsetMathGrid4drawERNS_11PainterInfoEii : 6   lyx 
> >>0x000102717774 
> >>_ZNK3lyx13InsetMathGrid4drawERNS_11PainterInfoEii + 168
> >>...
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Bob
> >Hi Bob,
> >
> >thank you for testing the RC3 version.
> >
> >I tried to reproduce the crash but I failed. I suppose it happens for some 
> >documents only, i.e. for documents containing some MathGrid element.
> >
> >Is the crash reproducible for you or is it spurious? Is it possible to 
> >provide a MWE document?
> >
> >BR, Stephan
> 

> #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
> #  
> \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,float.sty,pifont.sty,rcs.sty,svn-multi.sty]{article
>  (My article)}
> # Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
> # Author : Matthias Ettrich 
> # Transposed by Pascal André 
> # Heavily modifed and enhanced by serveral developers.
> 
> Format 35
> Input stdclass.inc
> 
> SecNumDepth 3
> TocDepth3
> 
> NoStyle Chapter
> NoStyle Chapter*
> 
> Preamble
> \usepackage{float}
> \usepackage{afterpage}
> \usepackage{calc}
> \usepackage{pifont}
> \usepackage{rcs}
> \usepackage{svn-multi}
> \newcommand\longpage[1][1]{\enlargethispage{#1\baselineskip}}
> \newcommand\shortpage[1][1]{\enlargethispage{-#1\baselineskip}}
> \newcommand{\rmed}{\hspace*{\fill}\ding{'251}}
> \newcommand{\rme}{\hspace*{\fill}\ding{'156}}
> EndPreamble
> 
> #Style MyQuote
> #MarginStatic
> #LatexType Environment
> #LatexName myquote
> #NextNoIndent  1
> #LeftMarginMMM
> #RightMargin   MMM
> #TopSep0.5
> #ParSep0.5
> #BottomSep 0.5
> #Align Block
> #AlignPossible Block, Left, Right, Center
> #LabelType Manual
> #LatexParam1
> #OptionalArgs  1
> #LabelSep  x
> #LabelFont
> #  Shape   Up
> #  Series  Bold
> #EndFont
> ##define the environment 
> #Preamble
> #\newenvironment{myquote}[1]{\begin{quote}\textbf{#1 }}{\end{quote}}
> #EndPreamble
> #End
> 
> 
> 
> Style Part
> Align Left
> AlignPossible Left
> TopSep2
> BottomSep 1.5
> Font
>   SizeLarger
> EndFont
> End
> 
> 
> Style Part*
> Align Left
> AlignPossible Left
> TopSep2
> BottomSep 1.5
> Font
>   SizeLarger
> EndFont
> End
> 
> # Theorem-numbered style *Template* 

Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[jspitzm]

Am Freitag, dem 19.04.2024 um 17:11 +0200 schrieb jspi...@gmail.com:
> I am currently traveling, so I cannot test. But does the attached
> patch help and provide a sufficient clues?

Take this. The first one didn't link.

Jürgen

diff --git a/src/LaTeXPackages.cpp b/src/LaTeXPackages.cpp
index e708df1dfe..d2f2c4c71b 100644
--- a/src/LaTeXPackages.cpp
+++ b/src/LaTeXPackages.cpp
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ namespace lyx {
 LaTeXPackages::Packages LaTeXPackages::packages_;
 
 
-void LaTeXPackages::getAvailable()
+void LaTeXPackages::getAvailable(bool retry)
 {
 	Lexer lex;
 	support::FileName const real_file = libFileSearch("", "packages.lst");
@@ -73,10 +73,17 @@ void LaTeXPackages::getAvailable()
 		}
 	}
 	// Check if the pkglist has current format.
-	// Reconfigure and re-parse if not.
+	// Reconfigure once and re-parse if not.
+	// If we have already reconfigured, give a warning and stop.
 	if (lstformat != "2") {
-		package().reconfigureUserLyXDir("");
-		getAvailable();
+		if (retry) {
+			LYXERR0("ERROR: Invalid package list format!\n"
+			"Please make sure there is no outdated configure.py file in your user directory");
+			return;
+		} else {
+			package().reconfigureUserLyXDir("");
+			getAvailable(true);
+		}
 	}
 }
 
diff --git a/src/LaTeXPackages.h b/src/LaTeXPackages.h
index dba6d039f6..12f3e4ec0b 100644
--- a/src/LaTeXPackages.h
+++ b/src/LaTeXPackages.h
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ namespace lyx {
 class LaTeXPackages {
 public:
 	/// Which of the required packages are installed?
-	static void getAvailable();
+	static void getAvailable(bool retry = false);
 	/// Is the (required) package available?
 	static bool isAvailable(std::string const & name);
 	/// Is the (required) package available at least as of
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[jspitzm]

Am Freitag, dem 19.04.2024 um 13:22 +0200 schrieb Stephan Witt:
> Now I got a clue how it happens.
> 
> In LaTeXPackages::getAvailable() is a recursion implemented and in
> our case it happens to be endless.
> 
> The reconfigure fails at first and in getAvailable() it is retried
> but fails again (and again and again).

I am currently traveling, so I cannot test. But does the attached patch
help and provide a sufficient clues?

Best,
Jürgen

diff --git a/src/LaTeXPackages.cpp b/src/LaTeXPackages.cpp
index e708df1dfe..7d38a87511 100644
--- a/src/LaTeXPackages.cpp
+++ b/src/LaTeXPackages.cpp
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ namespace lyx {
 LaTeXPackages::Packages LaTeXPackages::packages_;
 
 
-void LaTeXPackages::getAvailable()
+void LaTeXPackages::getAvailable(bool const retry)
 {
 	Lexer lex;
 	support::FileName const real_file = libFileSearch("", "packages.lst");
@@ -75,8 +75,14 @@ void LaTeXPackages::getAvailable()
 	// Check if the pkglist has current format.
 	// Reconfigure and re-parse if not.
 	if (lstformat != "2") {
-		package().reconfigureUserLyXDir("");
-		getAvailable();
+		if (retry) {
+			LYXERR0("ERROR: Invalid package list format!\n"
+			"Please make sure there is no outdated configure.py file in your user directory");
+			return;
+		} else {
+			package().reconfigureUserLyXDir("");
+			getAvailable(true);
+		}
 	}
 }
 
diff --git a/src/LaTeXPackages.h b/src/LaTeXPackages.h
index dba6d039f6..e3acb3371b 100644
--- a/src/LaTeXPackages.h
+++ b/src/LaTeXPackages.h
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ namespace lyx {
 class LaTeXPackages {
 public:
 	/// Which of the required packages are installed?
-	static void getAvailable();
+	static void getAvailable(bool const retry = false);
 	/// Is the (required) package available?
 	static bool isAvailable(std::string const & name);
 	/// Is the (required) package available at least as of
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Stephan Witt]

Am 14.02.2024 um 12:13 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller :
> 
> Am Montag, dem 12.02.2024 um 22:59 -0700 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>> I’m sorry to report continuing problems on macOS 12.7.2, Monterey
>> with LyX 2.4.0 RC3.
>> 
>> Hangs (pinwheel) on first launch with only Apple and LyX menu items,
>> then same on second launch.  Very low CPU and memory use. Force quit
>> both.
>> 
>> Deleted /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/
>> 
>> Re-launch. Opens “Welcome to LyX!”. Then I did Document -> View ->
>> (PDF (pdflatex)). No PDF is created. Instead, rapid looping of some
>> messages in the status bar, apparently involved with TeX stuff, such
>> as “Indexing TeX files… .” Document -> Cancel Export has no effect.
>> At the same time, about 24 files are being written or modified in 
>> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/ every 1-3 seconds. I
>> am able to capture the contents of e.g. configure.log. Attempt to
>> quit normally causes this dialog: " LyX could not be closed because
>> documents are being processed by LyX.”
>> 
>> Force quit again.
>> 
>> Re-launch. Hangs as on first launch; no Welcome.
>> 
>> Re-boot. Same sort of behavior. Safe boot. Same: Sometimes opens
>> Welcome then hangs. Sometimes doesn’t finish drawing menu bar and
>> hangs. Sometimes opens Welcome and hangs when trying to open a new
>> file. Can no longer get to where I can attempt to make a PDF.
> 
> Can you open LyX from a Terminal window and observe the output? Is it
> possible that the configuration of LyX gets repeatedly run in a loop? 
> 
> I have had that when I first installed 2.4.x without version suffix,
> and it turned out I had an old version of chkconfig.ltx in my personal
> LyX directory (no idea how it ended there). As the configure syntax
> significantly changed, this broke configuration. Removing the file
> fixed the issue for me.
> 
> Maybe LyX 2.4 also accesses some outdated configuration files in your
> case. Or the configuration (or some conversion) fails for another
> reason.
> 
> Terminal output might help us pinpointing the issue.

Now I got a clue how it happens.

In LaTeXPackages::getAvailable() is a recursion implemented and in our case it 
happens to be endless.

The reconfigure fails at first and in getAvailable() it is retried but fails 
again (and again and again).

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Stephan Witt]

Am 16.02.2024 um 07:53 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> 
> Sorry for the slow response.
> 
> Running from a terminal indeed showed repeated configuration runs. Near the 
> top of the first run (and only the first run) were these lines:
> 
> +Running LyX configure with Python 3.9.18
> Checking for upgrade from previous version.
> Found directory "/Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3".
> Skip cache /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/cache
> Content copied from directory "/Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3”.
> 
> I found three identical copies of chkconfig.ltx in each of
> 
> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.1/chkconfig.ltx
> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.2/chkconfig.ltx
> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/chkconfig.ltx
> 
> 
> I zipped all of them and trashed the original. Now LyX 2.4.0 RC3 runs great.
> 
> Thanks for that tip.
> 
> I know how that file got there: LyX put it there. Maybe if the configuration 
> file has changed for 2.4 then it shouldn’t copy old versions.
> 
> Note that 2.4 apparently just copies a bunch of stuff from the 2.3 directory 
> because now there is this file:
> 
> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/chkconfig.ltx.zip
> 
> which is obviously a copy of the file that I zipped, likely from the 
> corresponding 2.3 directory.
> 
> There is now no chkconfig.ltx in the 2.4 directory.
> 
> Jerry

Hi Jerry,

you’re right with your assumptions. The idea is to mimic the in-place update of 
LyX to avoid a reset of the user configuration to system defaults in case of an 
upgrade to a new LyX major version. Therefore the copy of the contents of the 
previous LyX major versions user directory to the fresh created one. This copy 
operation happens only once.

I’m trying to reproduce your problem to find a solution for it. I’m unable to 
get repeated configuration runs. I’ve put the chkconfig.ltx as of version 
lyx-2.0.6 into ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 to test it. May I ask you 
to send me a copy of your chkconfig.ltx, please? (The old version causing the 
problem…)

Thank you and best regards,
Stephan

>> On Feb 14, 2024, at 4:13 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
>> 
>> Am Montag, dem 12.02.2024 um 22:59 -0700 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>>> I’m sorry to report continuing problems on macOS 12.7.2, Monterey
>>> with LyX 2.4.0 RC3.
>>> 
>>> Hangs (pinwheel) on first launch with only Apple and LyX menu items,
>>> then same on second launch.  Very low CPU and memory use. Force quit
>>> both.
>>> 
>>> Deleted /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/
>>> 
>>> Re-launch. Opens “Welcome to LyX!”. Then I did Document -> View ->
>>> (PDF (pdflatex)). No PDF is created. Instead, rapid looping of some
>>> messages in the status bar, apparently involved with TeX stuff, such
>>> as “Indexing TeX files… .” Document -> Cancel Export has no effect.
>>> At the same time, about 24 files are being written or modified in 
>>> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/ every 1-3 seconds. I
>>> am able to capture the contents of e.g. configure.log. Attempt to
>>> quit normally causes this dialog: " LyX could not be closed because
>>> documents are being processed by LyX.”
>>> 
>>> Force quit again.
>>> 
>>> Re-launch. Hangs as on first launch; no Welcome.
>>> 
>>> Re-boot. Same sort of behavior. Safe boot. Same: Sometimes opens
>>> Welcome then hangs. Sometimes doesn’t finish drawing menu bar and
>>> hangs. Sometimes opens Welcome and hangs when trying to open a new
>>> file. Can no longer get to where I can attempt to make a PDF.
>> 
>> Can you open LyX from a Terminal window and observe the output? Is it
>> possible that the configuration of LyX gets repeatedly run in a loop? 
>> 
>> I have had that when I first installed 2.4.x without version suffix,
>> and it turned out I had an old version of chkconfig.ltx in my personal
>> LyX directory (no idea how it ended there). As the configure syntax
>> significantly changed, this broke configuration. Removing the file
>> fixed the issue for me.
>> 
>> Maybe LyX 2.4 also accesses some outdated configuration files in your
>> case. Or the configuration (or some conversion) fails for another
>> reason.
>> 
>> Terminal output might help us pinpointing the issue.
>> 
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 16/02/2024 à 08:57, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :

I know how that file got there: LyX put it there. Maybe if the
configuration file has changed for 2.4 then it shouldn’t copy old
versions.


The question is how that file ended in the user directory in the first
place. This should only be in the system directory.


I seem to remember that macOS has code that populates the new userdir 
with contents of the old userdir. I am not able to find this code right 
now though.


I guess that chkconfig.ltx was put into userdir years ago, and has been 
dutifully copied since then.


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Re: Lyx 2.4.0 RC3 SVN Crash MAC OSX.

[Robert Betz]

Stephan,

I have attached a Lyx file and associated template and layout files. 
This is a much smaller example. After experimenting, it seems to fail 
sometimes, and not others. One can make a seeminglyinnocuous change and 
it will ether fail consistently on SVN update, or it will work consistently.


Hope these files help track done the issue.

Thanks.
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Bob

Robert Betz
E: robertbe...@gmail.com
M: 0419249948


Stephan Witt wrote on 19/2/2024 5:36 pm:

Am 19.02.2024 um 05:17 schrieb Robert Betz :

I am currently using Lyx 2.4.0 RC3 on MAC OSX V14.2.1 (Sonoma) and if I try and 
check in a Lyx document to an SVN repository Lyx crashes. Using the same SVN 
version under Lyx V2.3.7 is OK.

The Lyx crash log is:

(  1) 1   lyx 0x0001028e85c3 
_ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert7doErrorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
 : 1   lyx 0x0001028e85c3 
_ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert7doErrorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
 + 199
(  2) 2   lyx 0x0001028e893c 
_ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert5errorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
 : 2   lyx 0x0001028e893c 
_ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert5errorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
 + 139
(  3) 3   lyx 0x0001025edeff 
_ZN3lyxL13error_handlerEi : 3   lyx 
0x0001025edeff _ZN3lyxL13error_handlerEi + 350
(  4) 4   libsystem_platform.dylib0x7ff8065d237d _sigtramp : 4  
 libsystem_platform.dylib0x7ff8065d237d _sigtramp + 29
(  5) 5   ??? 0x7ff7bda4486e 0x0 : 5   ???  
   0x7ff7bda4486e 0x0 + 140702015309934
(  6) 6   lyx 0x000102717774 
_ZNK3lyx13InsetMathGrid4drawERNS_11PainterInfoEii : 6   lyx 
0x000102717774 
_ZNK3lyx13InsetMathGrid4drawERNS_11PainterInfoEii + 168
...

Regards,

Bob

Hi Bob,

thank you for testing the RC3 version.

I tried to reproduce the crash but I failed. I suppose it happens for some 
documents only, i.e. for documents containing some MathGrid element.

Is the crash reproducible for you or is it spurious? Is it possible to provide 
a MWE document?

BR, Stephan


#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  
\DeclareLaTeXClass[article,float.sty,pifont.sty,rcs.sty,svn-multi.sty]{article 
(My article)}
# Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
# Author : Matthias Ettrich 
# Transposed by Pascal André 
# Heavily modifed and enhanced by serveral developers.

Format 35
Input stdclass.inc

SecNumDepth 3
TocDepth3

NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*

Preamble
\usepackage{float}
\usepackage{afterpage}
\usepackage{calc}
\usepackage{pifont}
\usepackage{rcs}
\usepackage{svn-multi}
\newcommand\longpage[1][1]{\enlargethispage{#1\baselineskip}}
\newcommand\shortpage[1][1]{\enlargethispage{-#1\baselineskip}}
\newcommand{\rmed}{\hspace*{\fill}\ding{'251}}
\newcommand{\rme}{\hspace*{\fill}\ding{'156}}
EndPreamble

#Style MyQuote
#MarginStatic
#LatexType Environment
#LatexName myquote
#NextNoIndent  1
#LeftMarginMMM
#RightMargin   MMM
#TopSep0.5
#ParSep0.5
#BottomSep 0.5
#Align Block
#AlignPossible Block, Left, Right, Center
#LabelType Manual
#LatexParam1
#OptionalArgs  1
#LabelSep  x
#LabelFont
#  Shape   Up
#  Series  Bold
#EndFont
##define the environment 
#Preamble
#\newenvironment{myquote}[1]{\begin{quote}\textbf{#1 }}{\end{quote}}
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Style Part
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Re: Lyx 2.4.0 RC3 SVN Crash MAC OSX.

[Stephan Witt]

Am 19.02.2024 um 05:17 schrieb Robert Betz :
> 
> I am currently using Lyx 2.4.0 RC3 on MAC OSX V14.2.1 (Sonoma) and if I try 
> and check in a Lyx document to an SVN repository Lyx crashes. Using the same 
> SVN version under Lyx V2.3.7 is OK.
> 
> The Lyx crash log is:
> 
> (  1) 1   lyx 0x0001028e85c3 
> _ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert7doErrorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
>  : 1   lyx 0x0001028e85c3 
> _ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert7doErrorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
>  + 199
> (  2) 2   lyx 0x0001028e893c 
> _ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert5errorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
>  : 2   lyx 0x0001028e893c 
> _ZN3lyx8frontend5Alert5errorERKNSt3__112basic_stringIwNS2_11char_traitsIwEENS2_9allocatorIwSA_b
>  + 139
> (  3) 3   lyx 0x0001025edeff 
> _ZN3lyxL13error_handlerEi : 3   lyx 
> 0x0001025edeff _ZN3lyxL13error_handlerEi + 350
> (  4) 4   libsystem_platform.dylib0x7ff8065d237d _sigtramp : 
> 4   libsystem_platform.dylib0x7ff8065d237d _sigtramp + 29
> (  5) 5   ??? 0x7ff7bda4486e 0x0 : 5   
> ??? 0x7ff7bda4486e 0x0 + 140702015309934
> (  6) 6   lyx 0x000102717774 
> _ZNK3lyx13InsetMathGrid4drawERNS_11PainterInfoEii : 6   lyx   
>   0x000102717774 
> _ZNK3lyx13InsetMathGrid4drawERNS_11PainterInfoEii + 168
> ...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bob

Hi Bob,

thank you for testing the RC3 version.

I tried to reproduce the crash but I failed. I suppose it happens for some 
documents only, i.e. for documents containing some MathGrid element.

Is the crash reproducible for you or is it spurious? Is it possible to provide 
a MWE document?

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[list_email]

> On Feb 16, 2024, at 12:57 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
> 
> Am Donnerstag, dem 15.02.2024 um 23:53 -0700 schrieb
> list_em...@icloud.com:
>> I found three identical copies of chkconfig.ltx in each of
>> 
>> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.1/chkconfig.ltx
>> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.2/chkconfig.ltx
>> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/chkconfig.ltx
>> 
>> 
>> I zipped all of them and trashed the original. Now LyX 2.4.0 RC3 runs
>> great.
>> 
>> Thanks for that tip.
> 
> Glad you solved it.
> 
>> I know how that file got there: LyX put it there. Maybe if the
>> configuration file has changed for 2.4 then it shouldn’t copy old
>> versions.
> 
> The question is how that file ended in the user directory in the first
> place. This should only be in the system directory.
> 
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System directory for me is /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/ for LyX 
2.4 app and I do see chkconfig.ltx there.

Like you, I have no idea how that file got in the wrong place.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag, dem 15.02.2024 um 23:53 -0700 schrieb
list_em...@icloud.com:
> I found three identical copies of chkconfig.ltx in each of
> 
> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.1/chkconfig.ltx
> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.2/chkconfig.ltx
> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/chkconfig.ltx
> 
> 
> I zipped all of them and trashed the original. Now LyX 2.4.0 RC3 runs
> great.
> 
> Thanks for that tip.

Glad you solved it.

> I know how that file got there: LyX put it there. Maybe if the
> configuration file has changed for 2.4 then it shouldn’t copy old
> versions.

The question is how that file ended in the user directory in the first
place. This should only be in the system directory.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[list_email]

Sorry for the slow response.

Running from a terminal indeed showed repeated configuration runs. Near the top 
of the first run (and only the first run) were these lines:

+Running LyX configure with Python 3.9.18
Checking for upgrade from previous version.
Found directory "/Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3".
Skip cache /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/cache
Content copied from directory "/Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3”.

I found three identical copies of chkconfig.ltx in each of

/Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.1/chkconfig.ltx
/Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.2/chkconfig.ltx
/Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/chkconfig.ltx


I zipped all of them and trashed the original. Now LyX 2.4.0 RC3 runs great.

Thanks for that tip.

I know how that file got there: LyX put it there. Maybe if the configuration 
file has changed for 2.4 then it shouldn’t copy old versions.

Note that 2.4 apparently just copies a bunch of stuff from the 2.3 directory 
because now there is this file:

/Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/chkconfig.ltx.zip

which is obviously a copy of the file that I zipped, likely from the 
corresponding 2.3 directory.

There is now no chkconfig.ltx in the 2.4 directory.

Jerry



> On Feb 14, 2024, at 4:13 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
> 
> Am Montag, dem 12.02.2024 um 22:59 -0700 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>> I’m sorry to report continuing problems on macOS 12.7.2, Monterey
>> with LyX 2.4.0 RC3.
>> 
>> Hangs (pinwheel) on first launch with only Apple and LyX menu items,
>> then same on second launch.  Very low CPU and memory use. Force quit
>> both.
>> 
>> Deleted /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/
>> 
>> Re-launch. Opens “Welcome to LyX!”. Then I did Document -> View ->
>> (PDF (pdflatex)). No PDF is created. Instead, rapid looping of some
>> messages in the status bar, apparently involved with TeX stuff, such
>> as “Indexing TeX files… .” Document -> Cancel Export has no effect.
>> At the same time, about 24 files are being written or modified in 
>> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/ every 1-3 seconds. I
>> am able to capture the contents of e.g. configure.log. Attempt to
>> quit normally causes this dialog: " LyX could not be closed because
>> documents are being processed by LyX.”
>> 
>> Force quit again.
>> 
>> Re-launch. Hangs as on first launch; no Welcome.
>> 
>> Re-boot. Same sort of behavior. Safe boot. Same: Sometimes opens
>> Welcome then hangs. Sometimes doesn’t finish drawing menu bar and
>> hangs. Sometimes opens Welcome and hangs when trying to open a new
>> file. Can no longer get to where I can attempt to make a PDF.
> 
> Can you open LyX from a Terminal window and observe the output? Is it
> possible that the configuration of LyX gets repeatedly run in a loop? 
> 
> I have had that when I first installed 2.4.x without version suffix,
> and it turned out I had an old version of chkconfig.ltx in my personal
> LyX directory (no idea how it ended there). As the configure syntax
> significantly changed, this broke configuration. Removing the file
> fixed the issue for me.
> 
> Maybe LyX 2.4 also accesses some outdated configuration files in your
> case. Or the configuration (or some conversion) fails for another
> reason.
> 
> Terminal output might help us pinpointing the issue.
> 
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag, dem 12.02.2024 um 22:59 -0700 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> I’m sorry to report continuing problems on macOS 12.7.2, Monterey
> with LyX 2.4.0 RC3.
> 
> Hangs (pinwheel) on first launch with only Apple and LyX menu items,
> then same on second launch.  Very low CPU and memory use. Force quit
> both.
> 
> Deleted /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/
> 
> Re-launch. Opens “Welcome to LyX!”. Then I did Document -> View ->
> (PDF (pdflatex)). No PDF is created. Instead, rapid looping of some
> messages in the status bar, apparently involved with TeX stuff, such
> as “Indexing TeX files… .” Document -> Cancel Export has no effect.
> At the same time, about 24 files are being written or modified in 
> /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/ every 1-3 seconds. I
> am able to capture the contents of e.g. configure.log. Attempt to
> quit normally causes this dialog: " LyX could not be closed because
> documents are being processed by LyX.”
> 
> Force quit again.
> 
> Re-launch. Hangs as on first launch; no Welcome.
> 
> Re-boot. Same sort of behavior. Safe boot. Same: Sometimes opens
> Welcome then hangs. Sometimes doesn’t finish drawing menu bar and
> hangs. Sometimes opens Welcome and hangs when trying to open a new
> file. Can no longer get to where I can attempt to make a PDF.

Can you open LyX from a Terminal window and observe the output? Is it
possible that the configuration of LyX gets repeatedly run in a loop? 

I have had that when I first installed 2.4.x without version suffix,
and it turned out I had an old version of chkconfig.ltx in my personal
LyX directory (no idea how it ended there). As the configure syntax
significantly changed, this broke configuration. Removing the file
fixed the issue for me.

Maybe LyX 2.4 also accesses some outdated configuration files in your
case. Or the configuration (or some conversion) fails for another
reason.

Terminal output might help us pinpointing the issue.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[list_email]

Sorry. Where does LyX look for Python? Possibly different place than shell. 
We’ve gone through this before, a few weeks ago, with RC1.

Jerry

> On Feb 13, 2024, at 3:49 PM, list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
> 
> $ python
> Python 3.9.18 (main, Aug 25 2023, 16:45:52) 
> [Clang 13.1.6 (clang-1316.0.21.2.5)] on darwin
> 
> Jerry
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2024, at 10:21 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse  wrote:
>> 
>> Is Python3 installed?
>> 
>> el
>> 
>> On 2024-02-13 07:59 , list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
>>> I’m sorry to report continuing problems on macOS 12.7.2, Monterey
>>> with LyX 2.4.0 RC3.
>>> 
>>> Hangs (pinwheel) on first launch with only Apple and LyX menu items,
>>> then same on second launch.  Very low CPU and memory use. Force quit
>>> both.
>> [...]
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[list_email]

$ python
Python 3.9.18 (main, Aug 25 2023, 16:45:52) 
[Clang 13.1.6 (clang-1316.0.21.2.5)] on darwin

Jerry

> On Feb 13, 2024, at 10:21 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse  wrote:
> 
> Is Python3 installed?
> 
> el
> 
> On 2024-02-13 07:59 , list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
>> I’m sorry to report continuing problems on macOS 12.7.2, Monterey
>> with LyX 2.4.0 RC3.
>> 
>> Hangs (pinwheel) on first launch with only Apple and LyX menu items,
>> then same on second launch.  Very low CPU and memory use. Force quit
>> both.
> [...]
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Cursor Bug [Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3]

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 2/12/24 19:37, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
On 13 Feb 2024, at 00:06, Richard Kimberly Heck  
wrote:


On 2/11/24 23:18, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

Hello Richard,

I am using the RC3 here and I came upon a problem: after having 
pasted some text, my cursor became invisible. I can select some text 
or move the cursor but cannot see where it is. I had to to close and 
restart Lyx in order to get back a visible cursor.
I repeated the operation after relaunching Lyx to check if I can 
reproduce the problem but my cursor stayed visible. So, I do not 
know what happened.

I have never met this problem in Lyx before updating to RC3.


Are you on Linux? I have seen this kind of problem quite a bit under 
Wayland, with different applications. It's very annoying.


I am sorry, Richard, I forgot to indicate it: I use MacOS Sonoma 
14.2.1 in French. I have only observed this behavior in RC3, not yet 
in any other version of LyX or application.


So not a Wayland issue, though it could still be a Qt issue.

There were not many changes between RC2 and RC3. Hardly any, in fact, 
unless there was a change in the Qt version, which I don't think there was.


That said, there have been some pretty significant changes to cursor 
behavior, so it's possible also that it's a LyX issue.


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Dr Eberhard W Lisse]

I don't see this on 14.3.1 (Silicon)

el

On 2024-02-13 02:37, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
[...]
> I am sorry, Richard, I forgot to indicate it: I use MacOS Sonoma 14.2.1
> in French. I have only observed this behavior in RC3, not yet in any
> other version of LyX or application.
> Best regards,
> Murat
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Is Python3 installed?

el

On 2024-02-13 07:59 , list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
> I’m sorry to report continuing problems on macOS 12.7.2, Monterey
> with LyX 2.4.0 RC3.
> 
> Hangs (pinwheel) on first launch with only Apple and LyX menu items,
> then same on second launch.  Very low CPU and memory use. Force quit
> both.
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Stephan Witt]

Am 13.02.2024 um 05:19 schrieb Robert Betz :
> 
> I am using MAC OSX 14.2.1 with Lyx V2.4.0 RC3.
> 
> When I use forward search to a PDF in Skim everything works OK, but the 
> reverse search does not work.
> 
> Incidentally, both forward and reverse search work with Lyx V2.3.7. 
> 
> Has anyone else had this trouble with V 2.4.0 RC3?

Hi Bob,

reverse search isn't working in case of a parallel installation of both LyX 
versions. Out-of-the-box it works with LyX in /Applications only. 

BR, Stephan

> Regards,
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert Betz
> E: robertbe...@gmail.com
> M: 0419249948
> 
> 
> Richard Kimberly Heck wrote on 12/2/2024 8:41 am:
>> The third release candidate for 2.4.0 is available here: 
>> 
>> http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/ 
>> 
>> The reason for the quick release of the third one was a bug preventing the 
>> editing of math in tables. That has been fixed, as has been another bug 
>> affecting the creation of LyX 'archives' on Windows. 
>> 
>> Please report any problems to lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org, which you should be 
>> able to do by replying to this message. 
>> 
>> Riki 
>> 
>> 
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Hi Cor,

Yes file a bug with a screenshot please.

JMarc 

Le 13 février 2024 09:21:07 GMT+01:00, Cor Blom  a écrit :
>Op 11-02-2024 om 22:41 schreef Richard Kimberly Heck:
>> Please report any problems to lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org, which you should be 
>> able to do by replying to this message.
>> 
>
>openSUSE Tumbleweed, plasma 5 and 6 RC2, wayland scaled, lyx compiled against 
>qt6.
>
>I see problems with the workarea, that does not scale as the rest of the 
>desktop does. I tested 110% and 125%. The interface itself scales fine, but 
>not the workarea (that space where we type the text).
>
>At 100% all is working fine. Also under X11 it is working fine, even when 
>scaled. So this is not a dealbreaker. I can file a bug if you want to push 
>this to the longer term.
>
>Thanks for all the work,
>
>Cor
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Cor Blom]

Op 11-02-2024 om 22:41 schreef Richard Kimberly Heck:
Please report any problems to lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org, which you should 
be able to do by replying to this message.




openSUSE Tumbleweed, plasma 5 and 6 RC2, wayland scaled, lyx compiled 
against qt6.


I see problems with the workarea, that does not scale as the rest of the 
desktop does. I tested 110% and 125%. The interface itself scales fine, 
but not the workarea (that space where we type the text).


At 100% all is working fine. Also under X11 it is working fine, even 
when scaled. So this is not a dealbreaker. I can file a bug if you want 
to push this to the longer term.


Thanks for all the work,

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Robert Betz]

I am using MAC OSX 14.2.1 with Lyx V2.4.0 RC3.

When I use forward search to a PDF in Skim everything works OK, but the 
reverse search does not work.


Incidentally, both forward and reverse search work with Lyx V2.3.7.

Has anyone else had this trouble with V 2.4.0 RC3?


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Richard Kimberly Heck wrote on 12/2/2024 8:41 am:

The third release candidate for 2.4.0 is available here:

    http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/

The reason for the quick release of the third one was a bug preventing 
the editing of math in tables. That has been fixed, as has been 
another bug affecting the creation of LyX 'archives' on Windows.


Please report any problems to lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org, which you 
should be able to do by replying to this message.


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[list_email]

I’m sorry to report continuing problems on macOS 12.7.2, Monterey with LyX 
2.4.0 RC3.

Hangs (pinwheel) on first launch with only Apple and LyX menu items, then same 
on second launch.  Very low CPU and memory use. Force quit both.

Deleted /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/

Re-launch. Opens “Welcome to LyX!”. Then I did Document -> View -> (PDF 
(pdflatex)). No PDF is created. Instead, rapid looping of some messages in the 
status bar, apparently involved with TeX stuff, such as “Indexing TeX files… .” 
Document -> Cancel Export has no effect. At the same time, about 24 files are 
being written or modified in  /Users/me/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.4/ 
every 1-3 seconds. I am able to capture the contents of e.g. configure.log. 
Attempt to quit normally causes this dialog: " LyX could not be closed because 
documents are being processed by LyX.”

Force quit again.

Re-launch. Hangs as on first launch; no Welcome.

Re-boot. Same sort of behavior. Safe boot. Same: Sometimes opens Welcome then 
hangs. Sometimes doesn’t finish drawing menu bar and hangs. Sometimes opens 
Welcome and hangs when trying to open a new file. Can no longer get to where I 
can attempt to make a PDF.

LyX 2,3.7 built with MacPorts still works fine.

Jerry


> On Feb 11, 2024, at 2:41 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck  wrote:
> 
> The third release candidate for 2.4.0 is available here:
> 
> http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/
> 
> The reason for the quick release of the third one was a bug preventing the 
> editing of math in tables. That has been fixed, as has been another bug 
> affecting the creation of LyX 'archives' on Windows.
> 
> Please report any problems to lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org, which you should be 
> able to do by replying to this message.
> 
> Riki
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Murat Yildizoglu]

> On 13 Feb 2024, at 00:06, Richard Kimberly Heck  wrote:
> 
> On 2/11/24 23:18, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
>> Hello Richard,
>> 
>> I am using the RC3 here and I came upon a problem: after having pasted some 
>> text, my cursor became invisible. I can select some text or move the cursor 
>> but cannot see where it is. I had to to close and restart Lyx in order to 
>> get back a visible cursor. 
>> I repeated the operation after relaunching Lyx to check if I can reproduce 
>> the problem but my cursor stayed visible. So, I do not know what happened. 
>> I have never met this problem in Lyx before updating to RC3.
> Are you on Linux? I have seen this kind of problem quite a bit under Wayland, 
> with different applications. It's very annoying.
> 
> Riki
> 
> 
> 
I am sorry, Richard, I forgot to indicate it: I use MacOS Sonoma 14.2.1 in 
French. I have only observed this behavior in RC3, not yet in any other version 
of LyX or application.
Best regards,
Murat
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 2/11/24 23:18, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

Hello Richard,

I am using the RC3 here and I came upon a problem: after having pasted 
some text, my cursor became invisible. I can select some text or move 
the cursor but cannot see where it is. I had to to close and restart 
Lyx in order to get back a visible cursor.
I repeated the operation after relaunching Lyx to check if I can 
reproduce the problem but my cursor stayed visible. So, I do not know 
what happened.

I have never met this problem in Lyx before updating to RC3.


Are you on Linux? I have seen this kind of problem quite a bit under 
Wayland, with different applications. It's very annoying.


Riki

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC3

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Hello Richard,

I am using the RC3 here and I came upon a problem: after having pasted some 
text, my cursor became invisible. I can select some text or move the cursor but 
cannot see where it is. I had to to close and restart Lyx in order to get back 
a visible cursor. 
I repeated the operation after relaunching Lyx to check if I can reproduce the 
problem but my cursor stayed visible. So, I do not know what happened. 
I have never met this problem in Lyx before updating to RC3. 

> On 12 Feb 2024, at 04:41, Richard Kimberly Heck  wrote:
> 
> The third release candidate for 2.4.0 is available here:
> 
> http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/
> 
> The reason for the quick release of the third one was a bug preventing the 
> editing of math in tables. That has been fixed, as has been another bug 
> affecting the creation of LyX 'archives' on Windows.
> 
> Please report any problems to lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org, which you should be 
> able to do by replying to this message.
> 
> Riki
> 
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