Re: Table size
Why not do this the way the figure sizing is done? A set of radio buttons with in, cm, pt, %textwidth (or %columnwidth), and a type-in for the number. I'll grant you this takes up a lot of space, but that's a question of form design. Also, it might be sensible to have a separate pop-up for this sort of size specification, since it's potentially useful in figures and tables, at least. (That takes care of the form design problem, too, because the parent form just needs a clickable box with the current size displayed in it. Good idea I will have a look at this when I redesign the tabular-layout (which will happen soon and it will be a tabed folder ;) Jürgen -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen Vigna E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260 I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296 ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug Everything bows to success, even grammar. -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
Re: Table size
> > Why not do this the way the figure sizing is done? A set of radio > buttons with in, cm, pt, %textwidth (or %columnwidth), and a type-in for > the number. I'll grant you this takes up a lot of space, but that's a > question of form design. Also, it might be sensible to have a separate > pop-up for this sort of size specification, since it's potentially > useful in figures and tables, at least. (That takes care of the form > design problem, too, because the parent form just needs a clickable box > with the current size displayed in it. > Good idea I will have a look at this when I redesign the tabular-layout (which will happen soon and it will be a tabed folder ;) Jürgen -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen Vigna E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260 I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296 ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug Everything bows to success, even grammar. -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
Re: Table size
Juergen Vigna wrote:
Hi Stephan!
Yes, I don't need WYSIWYM too. Normally it is irrelevant
where the linebreak inside the cell text occurs if the cell
width is given.
You'll see that in the new tabular-inset I already have a WYSIWYM view
of the tabular and you're also able to set paragraph layouts in there :)
But what I missed is the possiblity to enter expressions
as column width like 0.2\textwidth. This is sometimes more
convinient then absolute column width.
Yes this may be convenient, but then I'm not able anymore to check the
User input and this is only a input a advanced LaTeX user can give and
for this you also can use the Extra options and give p{0.2\textwidth} as
column type and IMO this is enough.
I was almost sure, there is a way. But I couldn't detect it. Thank you.
I accept the reason for the limitation. I would extend the list of possible
units on user input, i.e. \textwidth and so on. But there is an endless
loop, maybe.
I cannot compile LyX anymore on my Sun box, so I cannot make
a patch to change that... :(
What problems do you have? Maybe Jean-Marc can help you, he still compiles
on Sun Box IMO.
No. For that I have to give Jean-Marc an account and access to my machine to
install the needed compiler to help me :)
It's just the problem with the old Sun-Compiler. My company has to update
the beast to a newer one. If I want to use the Gnu-Compiler, I have to install
it in
my rare time and make sure to not use it for the commercial software
development.
So, I decided to stop compiling LyX until I have more time or a better compiler
from Sun. (And I'm using 1.0.1 on my Sun and 1.1.4 an my Laptop)
Jürgen
P.S.: I forward this to the User-List too maybe someone is interested ;)
Yes ofcourse. I forgot to CC to the list. And then I was too lazy
to forward this and write an explanation...
voila' you solved this as elegantly as possible. :)
Stephan
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Re: Table size
Stephan Witt wrote:
Stephan But what I missed is the possiblity to enter expressions
Stephan as column width like 0.2\textwidth. This is sometimes more
Stephan convinient then absolute column width.
Juergen Yes this may be convenient, but then I'm not able anymore to
check the
Juergen User input and this is only a input a advanced LaTeX user can
give and
Juergen for this you also can use the Extra options and give
p{0.2\textwidth} as
Juergen column type and IMO this is enough.
Stephan I accept the reason for the limitation. I would extend the
list of possible
Stephan units on user input, i.e. \textwidth and so on. But there is
an endless
Stephan loop, maybe.
Why not do this the way the figure sizing is done? A set of radio
buttons with in, cm, pt, %textwidth (or %columnwidth), and a type-in for
the number. I'll grant you this takes up a lot of space, but that's a
question of form design. Also, it might be sensible to have a separate
pop-up for this sort of size specification, since it's potentially
useful in figures and tables, at least. (That takes care of the form
design problem, too, because the parent form just needs a clickable box
with the current size displayed in it.
Carl
Carl Ollivier-Gooch Voice: +1-604-822-1854
Assistant Professor Fax: +1-604-822-2403
Department of Mechanical Engineering email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of British Columbia http://www.mech.ubc.ca/~cfog
Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z4 http://tetra.mech.ubc.ca/ANSLab
Re: Table size
Juergen Vigna wrote:
>
> Hi Stephan!
>
> >
> > Yes, I don't need WYSIWYM too. Normally it is irrelevant
> > where the linebreak inside the cell text occurs if the cell
> > width is given.
> >
>
> You'll see that in the new tabular-inset I already have a WYSIWYM view
> of the tabular and you're also able to set paragraph layouts in there :)
>
> > But what I missed is the possiblity to enter expressions
> > as column width like 0.2\textwidth. This is sometimes more
> > convinient then absolute column width.
> >
>
> Yes this may be convenient, but then I'm not able anymore to check the
> User input and this is only a input a advanced LaTeX user can give and
> for this you also can use the Extra options and give p{0.2\textwidth} as
> column type and IMO this is enough.
I was almost sure, there is a way. But I couldn't detect it. Thank you.
I accept the reason for the limitation. I would extend the list of possible
units on user input, i.e. \textwidth and so on. But there is an endless
loop, maybe.
> > I cannot compile LyX anymore on my Sun box, so I cannot make
> > a patch to change that... :(
>
> What problems do you have? Maybe Jean-Marc can help you, he still compiles
> on Sun Box IMO.
No. For that I have to give Jean-Marc an account and access to my machine to
install the needed compiler to help me :)
It's just the problem with the old Sun-Compiler. My company has to update
the beast to a newer one. If I want to use the Gnu-Compiler, I have to install
it in
my rare time and make sure to not use it for the commercial software
development.
So, I decided to stop compiling LyX until I have more time or a better compiler
from Sun. (And I'm using 1.0.1 on my Sun and 1.1.4 an my Laptop)
> Jürgen
>
> P.S.: I forward this to the User-List too maybe someone is interested ;)
Yes ofcourse. I forgot to CC to the list. And then I was too lazy
to forward this and write an explanation...
voila' you solved this as elegantly as possible. :)
Stephan
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Re: Table size
Stephan Witt wrote:
>
Stephan > But what I missed is the possiblity to enter expressions
Stephan > as column width like 0.2\textwidth. This is sometimes more
Stephan > convinient then absolute column width.
Juergen > Yes this may be convenient, but then I'm not able anymore to
check the
Juergen > User input and this is only a input a advanced LaTeX user can
give and
Juergen > for this you also can use the Extra options and give
p{0.2\textwidth} as
Juergen > column type and IMO this is enough.
Stephan > I accept the reason for the limitation. I would extend the
list of possible
Stephan > units on user input, i.e. \textwidth and so on. But there is
an endless
Stephan > loop, maybe.
Why not do this the way the figure sizing is done? A set of radio
buttons with in, cm, pt, %textwidth (or %columnwidth), and a type-in for
the number. I'll grant you this takes up a lot of space, but that's a
question of form design. Also, it might be sensible to have a separate
pop-up for this sort of size specification, since it's potentially
useful in figures and tables, at least. (That takes care of the form
design problem, too, because the parent form just needs a clickable box
with the current size displayed in it.
Carl
Carl Ollivier-Gooch Voice: +1-604-822-1854
Assistant Professor Fax: +1-604-822-2403
Department of Mechanical Engineering email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of British Columbia http://www.mech.ubc.ca/~cfog
Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z4 http://tetra.mech.ubc.ca/ANSLab
RE: Table size
On 16-Jun-2000 Kristoffer Lawson wrote: Is there any idea when we might get visual feedback to the "size" attribute for table cells? Or even a horizontal scrollbar when tables go off-screen? Currently editing tables is virtually impossible. Well you always can use Ctrl-Enter to split rows up into more virtural rows and so it don't get so wide. In 1.1.6cvs you may try the tabular-inset (Alt-x tabular-inset-insert) than does already have the requested features and is feature complete in the regard of the old handling), but I still have to change some code and so maybe the save format can change, so please only try it and report back ;) Jürgen -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen Vigna E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260 I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296 ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug It is only people of small moral stature who have to stand on their dignity. -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
RE: Table size
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 16-Jun-2000 Kristoffer Lawson wrote: Is there any idea when we might get visual feedback to the "size" attribute for table cells? Or even a horizontal scrollbar when tables go off-screen? Currently editing tables is virtually impossible. Well you always can use Ctrl-Enter to split rows up into more virtural rows and so it don't get so wide. Ah, but this is really quite a hack and doesn't do what I want. There's no text justification and I still have to try and work out what's going to look good with the selected paper width and whatnot. It's just not WYSIWYM (setting the width parameter to 5cm or whatever isn't either...). - -- = = -//--+ |/ Kristoffer Lawson | www.fishpool.fi|.com +- |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | - - --+-- |-- Fishpool Creations Ltd - / | + = - - - = - /~setok/
RE: Table size
On 19-Jun-2000 Kristoffer Lawson wrote: Well you always can use Ctrl-Enter to split rows up into more virtural rows and so it don't get so wide. Ah, but this is really quite a hack and doesn't do what I want. There's no text justification and I still have to try and work out what's going to look good with the selected paper width and whatnot. It's just not WYSIWYM (setting the width parameter to 5cm or whatever isn't either...). No one claimed it would be WYSIWYM ;) Jürgen -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen Vigna E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260 I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296 ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence. -- Wittgenstein -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
RE: Table size
On 16-Jun-2000 Kristoffer Lawson wrote: > > Is there any idea when we might get visual feedback to the > "size" attribute for table cells? Or even a horizontal scrollbar when > tables go off-screen? Currently editing tables is virtually impossible. > Well you always can use Ctrl-Enter to split rows up into more virtural rows and so it don't get so wide. In 1.1.6cvs you may try the tabular-inset (Alt-x tabular-inset-insert) than does already have the requested features and is feature complete in the regard of the old handling), but I still have to change some code and so maybe the save format can change, so please only try it and report back ;) Jürgen -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen Vigna E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260 I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296 ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug It is only people of small moral stature who have to stand on their dignity. -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
RE: Table size
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Juergen Vigna wrote: > On 16-Jun-2000 Kristoffer Lawson wrote: > > > > Is there any idea when we might get visual feedback to the > > "size" attribute for table cells? Or even a horizontal scrollbar when > > tables go off-screen? Currently editing tables is virtually impossible. > > > > Well you always can use Ctrl-Enter to split rows up into more virtural > rows and so it don't get so wide. Ah, but this is really quite a hack and doesn't do what I want. There's no text justification and I still have to try and work out what's going to look good with the selected paper width and whatnot. It's just not WYSIWYM (setting the width parameter to 5cm or whatever isn't either...). - -- = = -//--+ |/ Kristoffer Lawson | www.fishpool.fi|.com +-> |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | - - --+-- |-- Fishpool Creations Ltd - / | + = - - - = - /~setok/
RE: Table size
On 19-Jun-2000 Kristoffer Lawson wrote: >> >> Well you always can use Ctrl-Enter to split rows up into more virtural >> rows and so it don't get so wide. > > Ah, but this is really quite a hack and doesn't do what I want. There's > no text justification and I still have to try and work out what's going > to look good with the selected paper width and whatnot. It's just > not WYSIWYM (setting the width parameter to 5cm or whatever isn't > either...). No one claimed it would be WYSIWYM ;) Jürgen -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen Vigna E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel:+39-0471-450260 I-39100 Bozen Fax:+39-0471-450296 ITALY Web:http://www.sad.it/~jug What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence. -- Wittgenstein -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
Table size
Is there any idea when we might get visual feedback to the "size" attribute for table cells? Or even a horizontal scrollbar when tables go off-screen? Currently editing tables is virtually impossible. I use the size for when I have a longer piece of text for a table cell and I believe there is no other reasonable way of doing this. Of course one might claim that it would be useful if this was handled in a more abstract way aswell. Ie. that I could have a table which horizontally uses as much space as is on offer (much in the same way as table in HTML, without a specific size, works. - -- = = -//--+ |/ Kristoffer Lawson | www.fishpool.fi|.com +- |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | - - --+-- |-- Fishpool Creations Ltd - / | + = - - - = - /~setok/
Table size
Is there any idea when we might get visual feedback to the "size" attribute for table cells? Or even a horizontal scrollbar when tables go off-screen? Currently editing tables is virtually impossible. I use the size for when I have a longer piece of text for a table cell and I believe there is no other reasonable way of doing this. Of course one might claim that it would be useful if this was handled in a more abstract way aswell. Ie. that I could have a table which horizontally uses as much space as is on offer (much in the same way as in HTML, without a specific size, works. - -- = = -//--+ |/ Kristoffer Lawson | www.fishpool.fi|.com +-> |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | - - --+-- |-- Fishpool Creations Ltd - / | + = - - - = - /~setok/
